We could argue that a server can do without, and I’ve always complained the
minimal was too much. The container stuff likely focus them. It may be too
minimal for manual sysadmin work. I think it lacks sudo as well.
And I hate they put ifconfig cs in nettools-very-much-deprecated in some
other repository.

Rob

On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 at 13:48, Michael MacIsaac <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I get my hands on a minimal SLES 15 for the first time.  I try to edit a
> file:
>
> # *vi foo*
> -bash: vi: command not found
> # *vim foo*
> -bash: vim: command not found
>
> HUH?  A UNIX with no vi?  NEVER seen that before.
>
> So I install it:
>
> # *zypper install -y vim*
> ...
>
>
> Now I need to check a flag:
>
> #* man vim *
> -bash: man: command not found
>
>
> So I try to install man:
>
> # *zypper install -y man*
> ...
> No provider of 'man' found.
>
>
> HUH? A UNIX with no man pages at all?  NEVER seen that before either.
> Hopefully there's another way to install man.
>
> So I try to get help another way:
>
> # *info vim*
> info: No menu item 'vim' in node '(dir)Top'
> # *help vim*
> -bash: help: no help topics match `vim'.  Try `help help' or `man -k vim'
> or `info vim'.
>
>
> No 'info', no 'help' (which suggests to use man or info - hehe)
>
> Am I just spoiled with the backward compatibility baked into the mainframe?
>
> --
>      -Mike MacIsaac
>
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