Linux-Advocacy Digest #528, Volume #25 Mon, 6 Mar 00 17:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: My Windows 2000 experience ("Chad Myers")
Re: I can't stand this X anymore! (Darren Winsper)
Re: A Look on Open Source from the other side... (Darren Winsper)
Linux Viewlet Project ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: BSD & Linux (Donn Miller)
Re: Darwin or Linux (Re: The decline of VA Linux) (Salvatore Denaro)
Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Windows 2000 is pretty reliable ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Salary? (JCA)
Re: A little advocacy.. ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: A little advocacy.. ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: A little advocacy.. ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: A little advocacy.. (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: BSD & Linux (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: BSD & Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: I can't stand this X anymore! (Donovan Rebbechi)
New Linux Solutions Provider ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A little advocacy.. (Gary Hallock)
Re: Phreaker/Hacker/Cracker [was: Re: Recent denial of service attacks] (Arjan
Drieman)
Re: Windows 2000 is pretty reliable (Bob Hauck)
Re: A little advocacy.. (Mig Mig)
Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K (Steve Mading)
Re: My Windows 2000 experience (Steve Mading)
Re: Salary? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: My Windows 2000 experience
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:11:21 -0600
"Eric Remy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I haven't seen W2K's support, but having seen the version of
> multimonitor support with NT and Matrox cards it's not very impressive
> if you're used to a Mac.
It's not like the Matrox cards. That's Matrox's half-assed hack on NT.
Win2K it's built in. I'm running it right now, and it's seamless.
The only problem is that apps are not really written to take advantage of
it.
MDI apps are kinda worthless in multiple monitors. This is why, in
Office2000 MS went with a new window for each document you have open,
so that you can have one document open on one monitor, and the other
open on another, and so on.
I just plugged in another PCI video controller, booted up, Win2K detected
it, loaded the driver, stretched the desktop onto. I don't think it even
required a reboot after the driver installation.
Yeah, the Mac had it before, and the Mac's implementation is pretty good,
Win2K's is pretty good too. As good if not better than the Macs. They
got it right this time =)
-Chad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: I can't stand this X anymore!
Date: 7 Mar 2000 04:37:24 GMT
On 6 Mar 2000 01:30:50 GMT, Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We've already seen two major apps, Netscape/Mozilla and Applixware making a
> move to GTK.
Mozilla is actually removing as much dependancy on Gtk as possible in
favour of Gfx (Their cross-platform toolkit).
--
Darren Winsper (El Capitano) - ICQ #8899775
Stellar Legacy project member - http://www.stellarlegacy.tsx.org
DVD boycotts. Are you doing your part?
"Microsoft is estimating that 28,000 of these [bugs] are likely to be 'real'
problems [in Windows2000]."
-http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2436920,00.html?chkpt=zdhpnews01
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Subject: Re: A Look on Open Source from the other side...
Date: 7 Mar 2000 04:37:25 GMT
On Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:31:03 GMT, Mathias Grimmberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You haven't seen any corporation give away the source to one of their crown
> > jewels yet, unless they were legally obligated to do so (as is the case with
> > Red Hat). And you're not going to anytime soon.
Red Hat are not legally obligated to release their programs under the
GPL, they chose to.
I know stupidity knows no bounds, but this is just stupid.
--
Darren Winsper (El Capitano) - ICQ #8899775
Stellar Legacy project member - http://www.stellarlegacy.tsx.org
DVD boycotts. Are you doing your part?
"Microsoft is estimating that 28,000 of these [bugs] are likely to be 'real'
problems [in Windows2000]."
-http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2436920,00.html?chkpt=zdhpnews01
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Viewlet Project
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 20:41:42 GMT
I'm writing to ask you to be part of the Linux Viewlet Project,
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Community Manager, Qarbon.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 15:50:41 -0500
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc
Subject: Re: BSD & Linux
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 19:07:21 GMT, Ste wrote:
>
> >Mind you that WWF is great, do you think they really get hurt!
>
> I dunno, I consider WWF "acting", which is not really a sport
You've gotta love these people, who most likely haven't played any
sports, judging a bunch of sports as "girls" sports. Sure, Australian
rules football is tougher than American football. But, that doesn't
exactly make the NFL or NCAA football "girls" sports.
Basketball has a lot of hitting and elbowing going on. I've played
it, and it is a tougher game than it looks. It takes a fair bit of
endurance. With baseball, just look at Jason Kendall's ankle
dislocation from last July 4 1999 - it'll make you rethink the "girly"
aspect a little. Plus, those guys have to catch 110+ mph line drives
- I sure wouldn't want to do that. Also, ever get hit by a 98 mph
fastball? Hitting home runs also takes a good bit of strength. How
could that be "girly"?
- Donn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Salvatore Denaro)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Darwin or Linux (Re: The decline of VA Linux)
Date: 6 Mar 2000 20:52:08 GMT
On 6 Mar 2000 03:21:31 GMT, John Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>There are still some happy Linux stories at the Apple site:
>
> http://www.apple.com/creative/internet/linux/
>
> http://www.apple.com/creative/internet/kai/
http://ppclinux.apple.com/
--
Salvatore Denaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:05:03 -0600
Wolfgang Weisselberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On 6 Mar 2000 06:43:35 GMT,
> 5X3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Being a .0 release does not excuse microsoft from lying and telling Chad
> > Meyers its the "most secure version of windows yet". Such a thing
> > can clearly not be said about W2K yet.
>
> Just imagine for a second ...
> ... W2K is the safest Windows out there, as it stands. Now
> where does that leave NT? Not to speak of Win XX ?
For each Linux kernel with a security patch released, that version is
(theoretically) more secure than the last and thus more secure than any
other version of Linux (as long as no new security holes were introduced).
So what does that say about the previous version?
The same thing it says about NT4.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 is pretty reliable
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:08:52 -0600
Bob Hauck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 02:16:26 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> >The only one I can even think of is the Stac lawsuit, which is really
> >just a contract dispute. Not truly a violation of civil law.
>
> No, it was over patents. MS was accused of having violated Stac's patent.
Which is a liscensing issue, ie a contract dispute. Stac claimed that MS
did not have a liscense to use Stac's patent.
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From: JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 12:55:26 -0800
"José Luis Domingo" wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Christopher R. Carlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Try somewhere in
> >
> > $45000 <= salary <= $75000
> >
> > Pretty wide range, but it seems about right, from what I know, which
> > isn't much :-D
> >
> Just in case someone finds it interesting...
>
> Here in Spain, if you have just finished your career and ask for a
> salary starting at 7M pesetas ($45K) you will probably end in a mental
> institution.
>
As someone who has been there I can vouchsafe for that.
>
> I finished my career in telco's less than a year ago, and what I've been
> told by
> colleagues the same age is that the starting salary is around 3M pesetas
> ($18K). It seems we have to go US or UK to get a decent salary...
>
The problem is that in Europe technical people are at the bottom of the
totem pole, no matter how good they are. The only place I know of where
that doesn't necessarily happen is the US. The result: the US produces
the best software in the world, and any good European software is developed
by universities, not by private companies.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A little advocacy..
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:15:21 -0600
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Please tell me what computers were available for home use in the late
> '60's?
Never heard of the Altair?
> > Linux advocates say it's intended purpose is to replace windows. You
seem
> > to be saying otherwise. Perhaps you should get together with the others
and
> > get your stories straight.
>
> There is no unified voice in Linux, nor society in general. To assume so
> would be silly. Each person has their own opinion.
The author seems to be indicating that his opinion is universal.
> > I can guarantee that I can configure your Linux system to run only for a
few
> > minutes and lock up.
>
> Windows 9x does lock up. Windows 9x does crash. These are undeniable. NT
> is a bit better, but even Microsoft admits it is not as stable as it
> should be. Linux is very stable, verifiably more reliable than NT.
It shouldn't lock up or crash "after only a couple minutes" unless something
is very wrong.
> > Windows is not as unstable as you claim except when improperly
configured,
> > much like Linux. (No, i'm not saying Windows is as stable as Linux, I'm
> > saying it's not as unstable as your claiming) But for the majoroity of
> > people that run their computer for a few hours then shut it off, Windows
> > never or almost never crashes for said people.
>
> Windows is quite unstable, I agree in that I have seen Windows machines
> remain working for over a month, but never much more than that. The more
> normal Windows experience, in a well used Windows box, is a three day
> max and a one reboot a day average. (FYI, by Windows, I mean the 9x DOS
> version, not NT. NT is a bit better.)
The author claimed only a few minutes before crashing.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A little advocacy..
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:20:54 -0600
Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 04:31:38 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >situations. But even so, they were still hobyist systems, which is what
> >Linux primarily is in the home today. If you use your computer to get
work
> >done, rather than as a fun experiment, you'll find Linux to be not worth
the
> >effort.
>
> That would depend on what kind of "work" you want to get done. For my
> "work", mostly academic and web publishing, Linux is no more effort
> than Windows.
Because you already know linux. Someone that uses computers in a
non-technology field won't feel the same way.
> >Linux advocates say it's intended purpose is to replace windows. You
seem
> >to be saying otherwise. Perhaps you should get together with the others
and
> >get your stories straight.
>
> You are confused. "Linux advocates" is not one person. We are not some
> kind of Borg collective. Just because one nut says "Linux's purpose is
> to replace windows" doesn't mean that this is the general
> consensus of the community.
My point was that the author was making ludicrous claims about "the intended
purpose of Linux".
> >I can guarantee that I can configure your Linux system to run only for a
few
> >minutes and lock up.
>
> How ? Give some concrete details.
Having done this several times, it's quite easy. Fiddle a few settings in
your X config, causing the video card to fault the bus.
> I think you'd find it takes some effort to configure Linux to crash
> frequently.
Then i'm just very adept and finding such ways.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A little advocacy..
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:23:45 -0600
Darren Winsper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 04:31:38 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> > Linux advocates say it's intended purpose is to replace windows.
>
> Please provide references for your claim.
Oh, so you'r claiming it's not?
> > I can guarantee that I can configure your Linux system to run only for a
few
> > minutes and lock up.
>
> Without actually going out of your way to configure it to, please
> explain how.
That's the point. If you're not configured correctly, it can lock up and
crash. The same with windows.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: A little advocacy..
Date: 6 Mar 2000 21:23:07 GMT
On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:20:54 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> That would depend on what kind of "work" you want to get done. For my
>> "work", mostly academic and web publishing, Linux is no more effort
>> than Windows.
>
>Because you already know linux. Someone that uses computers in a
>non-technology field won't feel the same way.
I use computers to write *math* papers. This might give me a few "geek points"
but I certainly wouldn't call it a "technology field". BTW, I didn't know
Linux or UNIX very well when I installed Linux. ( well, I'd used pine,
vi and Latex on Solaris, but that's about it )
>> I think you'd find it takes some effort to configure Linux to crash
>> frequently.
>
>Then i'm just very adept and finding such ways.
Fairly (-;
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc
Subject: Re: BSD & Linux
Date: 6 Mar 2000 21:25:41 GMT
On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 15:50:41 -0500, Donn Miller wrote:
>Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>You've gotta love these people, who most likely haven't played any
>sports, judging a bunch of sports as "girls" sports. Sure, Australian
>rules football is tougher than American football. But, that doesn't
About the same IMO. Australian football forgoes the padding, but it's
otherwise not as violent ( the idea of tackling is to prevent your
opponent from disposing of the ball, not decking him )
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc
Subject: Re: BSD & Linux
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:08:44 GMT
Go tell 7'+ 300lb+ Shaquille O'Neal that he plays a game which is
basically a girls game :-)
There is a women's world cup of soccer (dominated, oddly enough, by
the Yanks), and there is also women's rugby. I guess those soccer and
rugby players are playing "girl games" as well. Following up on the
sissy padded sport of football - there isn't much in the way of
women's football, while there is women's rugby. Read into that what
you will. ;-)
Cricket is... boring. Baseball players wear much less protective
equipment when facing 100 MPH pitches than cricket batsmen do. So are
football players and cricket players wimpy? :-)
On Mon, 06 Mar 2000 19:07:21 GMT, "Ste" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> . Rugby itself is, of course, descended from soccer. So there is a
>> direct line of descendence from soccer to football. We in north
>> america would call it continous improvement ;-).
>
>but what about basketball? Basically netball, a girls game.
>
>And baseball, basically rounders, another girls game.
>
>And Cricket!! Not a game, an art.
>
>Mind you that WWF is great, do you think they really get hurt!
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: I can't stand this X anymore!
Date: 6 Mar 2000 21:30:08 GMT
On 6 Mar 2000 20:01:09 GMT, Jim Gettys wrote:
>Getting your font path setup right and True Type fonts are by far
>the most important thing you can do to fix the appearance on the screen.
Hmmm ... IMO, TrueType fonts are wildly overrated. In practice, they are
not really better than Type1 ( IOW, convert a TrueType to Type1 and you'll
see no loss in quality, at least in X )
>Ok, how can you help?
[ snip ]
Thanks for the sermon about helping. You are addressing the author
of the font HOWTO, who is doing what he can to help given his somewhat
limited programming skills (-;
Cheers,
--
Donovan
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Subject: New Linux Solutions Provider
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:33:43 GMT
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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 16:46:51 -0500
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A little advocacy..
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Please tell me what computers were available for home use in the late
> > '60's?
>
> Never heard of the Altair?
Not in the 60's. They didn't exist. The microprocessor didn't
exist. The integrated circuit was only a few years old and the first
mainframe to use ICs had not yet been released. Many computers still used
magnetic core memory. 8-track tapes were all the rage and cassettes had yet
to be invented. The first mass storage devices for the early home computers
was an audio cassette recorder using the Kansas City standard tape interface.
Hard to do that without cassettes. You are off by a decade.
Gary
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arjan Drieman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Phreaker/Hacker/Cracker [was: Re: Recent denial of service attacks]
Date: 6 Mar 2000 21:52:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 05 Mar 2000 23:22:40 GMT, Pyrrus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>meaning of words changes. This does not mean, however, that we
>>have to agree or confirm :)
>umm, do you mean conform?
Yes I did, thank you.
Arjan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 is pretty reliable
Date: 6 Mar 2000 21:58:35 GMT
Reply-To: bobh{at}slc{dot}codem{dot}com
On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:08:52 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Bob Hauck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> No, it was over patents. MS was accused of having violated Stac's patent.
>
>Which is a liscensing issue, ie a contract dispute. Stac claimed that MS
>did not have a liscense to use Stac's patent.
What? How can it be a "contract dispute" if there's no contract? Yes, it
was a civil matter. Whatever it was though, the judgement was for over
$100 million as I recall. It was cheaper to buy a controlling interest in
Stac.
I don't think anybody sane is accusing MS of having murdered or kidnapped
anyone, so most actions will be civil in nature rather than criminal.
OTOH, I don't know that a defense of "they aren't bad, they haven't been
charged criminally" is very strong when you have a clear record of pushing
the boundaries of fair play at every opportunity.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: Mig Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A little advocacy..
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:59:24 +0100
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> Darren Winsper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 04:31:38 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Linux advocates say it's intended purpose is to replace windows.
> >
> > Please provide references for your claim.
>
> Oh, so you'r claiming it's not?
>
> > > I can guarantee that I can configure your Linux system to run only for a
> few
> > > minutes and lock up.
> >
> > Without actually going out of your way to configure it to, please
> > explain how.
>
> That's the point. If you're not configured correctly, it can lock up and
> crash. The same with windows.
Please tell us how so we wont repeat those mistakes :-)
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K
Date: 6 Mar 2000 21:50:26 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hexdump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:>
:> Here is a thought though, the "Smart Ship" (?) program is supposed to
:> automate things, correct? Would that involve device drivers? If so, what
:> would happen under NT ( or Linux, just to be fair) if a device driver had
:> a division by zero error?
: The OS would crash, but there is little reason for a device driver to be
: doing divide by anything. device drivers typically only move I/O from one
: place to another, they don't do complex calculations of data.
Dividing one number by another is hardly a "complex calculation".
Especially if it is an integer DIV type of division rather than
a floating point one. I could easily imagine that sort of thing
inside a driver of some sort. You might DIV when you calculate
how much to copy into the next buffer, or look for a time-window
for a device that is sensitive to that sort of thing, etc.
I'm not saying that you're wrong about the ship crash. I don't
really know if it was an OS crash or not, given how often I
get users mis-identifying problems as "crashes" when they aren't,
I don't trust seeing that word in a write-up. Just because an
article used the term "crash" doesn't mean diddly. While I will
admit that the anti-MS advocates here are talking out of their
ass here, SO ARE THE PRO-MS advocates, when they are absolutely
convinced that it can't have been an OS crash. The navy isn't
letting out a technical report on it, just these vague ones
aimed at the layman - which we all know tend to misapply the
word "crash". NONE of us actually know if the OS crashed or not,
from the description given. There's too many layers of military
PHBs between us and the people who do know - we will never get
a definite, clear picture of the events that transpired.
--
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: My Windows 2000 experience
Date: 6 Mar 2000 21:53:06 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:89s8qj$9mc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:>
:> "5X3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
:> news:89mbim$1n6a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:> > No. Both running AT THE SAME TIME. Not one "minimized". Both sharing
:> the
:> > same console at the same time, accessing the same hardware, both running,
:> > both being played.
:> >
:> > Because thats the equivalent of two X servers accessing the same hardware
:> > at the same time.
:>
:> Yes, take your pick, one minimized and one full screen (how else could it
:> be) OR both in windows next to each other, overlapped or one on one monitor
:> and the other on another monitor, or how about both split between two
:> monitors stacked atop each other?
: How good is Linux's multiple monitor support? Oh wait, that'd be useless,
: I guess. I mean, how much benefit does watching the kernel compile
: on two screens really provide?
If you want to watch the kernel compile on a seperate screen, it's a
text-only type of thing, so why bother with a monitor? Just use a
serial terminal. Also comes in handy when debugging full-screen
graphical programs.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Salary?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 21:31:57 +0000
And verily, didst Desmond Coughlan hastily scribble thusly:
> I think it's a myth that wages are higher in the United States, at least
> when the high cost of living is taken into account.
What high cost of living?
Food's cheap. Petrol's cheap. PHone calls are cheap?
You don't have a HIGH cost of living.
> I presently earn a tad under 500,000 FFr a year, which I think translates
> into about 73,000 US$ per year. That doesn't seem much, but I live in
> a relatively large flat, and only pay 4,000 FFr a month (580 US$).
> So the wages are lower in Europe, but the cost of living is lower, too.
Really. Try living in the UK for a while.
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