Linux-Advocacy Digest #607, Volume #25 Mon, 13 Mar 00 01:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: What might really help Linux (a developer's perspective) (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Salary? (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Why not Darwin AND Linux rather than Darwin OR Linux? (was Re: Darwin or Linux
(Matt Kennel)
Re: Mandrake=Poison? ("Ferdinand V. Mendoza")
Hosted web server - suggested config? ("Tim Cain")
Re: Mandrake=Poison? (Leslie Mikesell)
Predatory LINUX practices with NETSCAPE Navigator! (hot_offer)
Root Passwords ("2 Bit Unix, Inc.")
Re: Kernels (Was: Re: BSD & Linux) (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) (Thingfishhhh)
Re: Predatory LINUX practices with NETSCAPE Navigator! ("xxx")
Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) (Jason Bowen)
Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) (Marty)
Humor: Beer? ("Rich Cloutier")
Re: Predatory LINUX practices with NETSCAPE Navigator! ("Rich Cloutier")
Re: Buying Drestin Linux Was (Re: Drestin: time for you to buy UNIX for DumbAsses
("Ray Wright")
Re: Hosted web server - suggested config? ("Rich Cloutier")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: What might really help Linux (a developer's perspective)
Date: 13 Mar 2000 02:32:46 GMT
On 12 Mar 2000 14:30:17 -0700, Craig Kelley wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH) writes:
>> A serious developer should be dissuaded so easily by the lack
>> of eye candy and hand holding interfaces.
Here goes Jedi again with his
"if you can't be bothered doing it the hard way, just get lost".
What would Jedi know about "serious developers" anyway ? Who the hell is
he to go judging which developers are and aren't "serious" ? I've yet to
see *any* code with the name "Jedi" attached ( apart from a one line shell
script posted to usenet -- and he didn't even get it right )
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 13 Mar 2000 02:35:03 GMT
On 12 Mar 2000 21:12:09 GMT, Joseph T. Adams wrote:
>Only a New Yorker would consider Austin (metro area just over a
>million) a "small town."
The population number itself is misleading -- the town is awfully
sprawled. In terms of land area, it's quite big. However, it's certainly
not very dense.
>But then, Texans would consider New York to be a small state. :)
Well if one goes on population alone, you could even count NYC as a
"small country".
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Kennel)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why not Darwin AND Linux rather than Darwin OR Linux? (was Re: Darwin or
Linux
Date: 13 Mar 2000 03:00:10 GMT
Reply-To: mbkennel@<REMOVE THE BAD DOMAIN>yahoo.spam-B-gone.com
On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 06:41:05 GMT, JEDIDIAH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:On 8 Mar 2000 21:32:46 GMT, Salvatore Denaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>On 8 Mar 2000 14:06:09 GMT, John Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>>Why didn't Apple make a Quicktime player for Linux?
:>
:>Linux has 4% of the desktop and 25% of servers shipped last year. What
:
: A Linux port would also cover the gruntwork for any posix
: compatible system including ALL the other Unixen and quite
: likely BeOS.
Disagree. POSIX doesn't cover the sort of high-performance graphics
models and bitmap models and color models that a Quicktime player would
need, nor any of the interface.
X helps a little with the first, but that's not BeOS.
: This is the real rub. Linux developers are willing to do this
: work, even under NDA, yet they're being snubbed. Apple isn't
: even being open with it's CODEC licencing, nevermind source
: or specs...
annoying, but I heard the codec's weren't all theirs.
--
* Matthew B. Kennel/Institute for Nonlinear Science, UCSD
*
* "To chill, or to pop a cap in my dome, whoomp! there it is."
* Hamlet, Fresh Prince of Denmark.
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From: "Ferdinand V. Mendoza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake=Poison?
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:46:12 +0400
Robert Morelli wrote:
> Ferdinand V. Mendoza wrote:
> <snip>
> > BTW, I would say that your conpiracy theory is farfetched.
> > Do you have shares in Caldera or Redhat?
>
> Shares in Caldera or Redhat? Would attacking another Linux distro
>
Read my previous post again because it is very clear that I
haven'tattack Caldera or Redhat. If my comments said Mandrake is far
superior than Redhat for desktop use, that is based from my personal
experience
and I guess lots of newbies or the veterans would seem to
agree that that's an honest fact.
One of Mandrakes coolest feature is the "update icon". Don't know
if Redhat has this now in their latest release. But all in all those
are all excellent distros.
> actually help those shares? Hey, that makes my theory look
> pretty sane.
>
Your personal motives in attacking Mandrake is quitehighly suspicious to
me so that does not validate your
conspiracy theory to be pretty sane.
Ferdinand
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From: "Tim Cain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hosted web server - suggested config?
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 03:58:51 GMT
Hi!
A buddy and me are looking at the possibility of getting
a business venture off the ground, which relies heavily
on a database, accessible via the web 24x7x365.
We're looking at about 60 users tops in the 1st year, and
would count ourselves very unlucky if 20 were accessing the
database at the same time. The projected size of the database
is less than 1Gig.
The "obvious" way to go is some big box with RH6.1+*, which
we can get hosted fairly cheaply under the old pals act of
1999.
(*you snag Oracle FOC with this distro, I'm led to believe)
The only sticking point is the spec of the machine...
Anybody got any ideas or relevant experience in this field
of endeavour, please don't keep quiet!
Thanks in advance,
Tim.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Mandrake=Poison?
Date: 12 Mar 2000 22:28:56 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Robert Morelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >I obtained both Linux-Mandrake 6.0 and 6.1 and tried installing them on
>> >several machines, two different laptops and 1 very standard desktop.
>>
>> What is the point of posting this now that 7.0 has been out for
>> quite a while?
>
>7.0 has been out for a couple of months -- hardly what I'd call quite a
>while.
Perhaps in the sluggish world of Windows development you would call
two months a long time.
>It's also not a dramatic upgrade from 6.1 as far as I'm aware.
The install procedure is wildly different.
>6.0, 6.1, and 7.0 were all released in quick succession, which
>may in fact be part of the problem.
What problem? I suppose there are hardware configurations where
it won't work, but all of those versions installed for me on
an assortment of machines. About the only problem I saw was
ftp not working in one version.
>In any case, I actually paid money
>for one of the Mandrake distros, and I don't see it as remarkable to
>report on a product that was obtained only a few months ago. In any case,
>if there is any shred of truth in my conspiracy theory, it would apply
>equally well to 6.1, 7.0, 8.0, ...
Perhaps they carefully targeted your particular machine as part of
this consiracy. It even runs on a friend's 486, in spite of being
optimized for pentiums.
>The real reason I've posted this now is that I'm intrigued, and a little
>concerned, by the increasing popularity of Mandrake. If it had fallen
>into obscurity, I wouldn't have bothered. What prompted me to post
>yesterday was seeing a recommendation from Borland/Inprise for either
>Red Hat or Mandrake for use with one of its development products. What
>merits that endorsement, above say a fine distribution like Caldera's?
I'd guess that 7.0 is in fact a response to Caldera's install, trying
to out-do them in user friendliness.
>I'm on no crusade against Mandrake. If my experience was an uncanny fluke,
>so be it. But I'm no psychic, so the only way I can find out is by
>alerting other people to my experience.
Most people who aren't on a crusade first make an attempt to find
out what they did wrong or which piece of hardware is incompatible
with the software.
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (hot_offer)
Subject: Predatory LINUX practices with NETSCAPE Navigator!
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 04:34:22 GMT
Everyone complains about Microsoft putting the Internet Explorer icon on the
desktop and including it with the installation of their operating system.
Monopolistic and controlling. And they give it away for free.
Yet, install any distribution of Linux and they put the Netscape Navigator icon
on the desktop and it is included with the installation of the Linux operating
system. It is installed by DEFAULT. And they give it away for free.
Hmmm....see the obvious parallel. Amazing similar isn't it? And yet every
Linux Lacky will claim this is TOTALLY different. No it's not. Same thing,
same reasons, same way. But denial is far easier to swallow in the Linux camp
apparently.
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From: "2 Bit Unix, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Root Passwords
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:43:26 -0800
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2 Bit Unix, Inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc
Subject: Re: Kernels (Was: Re: BSD & Linux)
Date: 12 Mar 2000 22:36:55 -0600
In article <8agd84$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <8af65e$1d1r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >"config ... syntax error ... fix ... done" is a lot less annoying than "y ...
>> >y ... y ... n ... n ... whoops, that should have been yes ... ^C ... make ...
>> >y ... y ... y ... n ... y ...".
>
>> Hence the appeal of menuconfig where you have curses-based access
>> to just the category, then item you want to change without touching
>> the others,
>
>I don't know about you, but editing a file by following a set of menus and
>never being quite sure that I explored all the branches seems like a really
>clumsy alternative to just editing a plain text file in the first place.
>
>To me, anyway.
This depends very much on the obscurity of the file contents and
the extent to which the menu choices allow you to make all
of the relevant setting.
>Menus are great for twiddling things. But they shouldn't be confused with
>what you're twiddling.
Menus are for twiddling what someone anticipated would need twiddling.
If the menu maker does a good job, the menu approach is easier and
offers a certain amount of protection against syntax errors and
conflicts in settings.
>I occasionally tweak Netscape by editing the .js file directly.
There are things in Netscape that do not have a user interface
to change otherwise (i.e. the menu maker did not do a good job...).
Les Mikesell
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From: Thingfishhhh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 20:50:13 -0800
In article <8agv29$dgm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) wrote:
> In article <38cba2e0$2$obot$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On 03/11/2000 at 11:41 PM,
> > Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >
> >
> >> That's why the Linux/Win98SE dual boot box has only 64 meg - it's an
> >> Intel 430TX chipset MB. It will take more ram but only caches 64 meg.
> >
> >Unless, of course, you are running OS/2. Then all the ram can be used
> >provided you tell the Bios you are smart enough to run OS/2. I have Warp
> >running on a 430TX motherboard with the Award Bios set for using OS/2.
> >When thus set, all 96 megs are available and the swapfile never grows
> >beyond the allocated size.
>
> Unless you are a complete fucking idiot
Maybe it's me, but anytime you address anyone over a computer matter
this way says to me you need a break and/or to get laid, and you take
this WAAAAAAAY to seriously.
Are computers really worth that kind of venom and angst?
--
"go sell your salted fish." Ho You Kong, Feb 16, 2000
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From: "xxx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Predatory LINUX practices with NETSCAPE Navigator!
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:14:08 +0200
I doubt anyone in this group will answer after this comment as it is very
clear that you do not understand the DoJ vs M$ case. It is in fact far more
complicated then just the Browser.
.......
hot_offer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Everyone complains about Microsoft putting the Internet Explorer icon on
the
> desktop and including it with the installation of their operating system.
> Monopolistic and controlling. And they give it away for free.
>
> Yet, install any distribution of Linux and they put the Netscape Navigator
icon
> on the desktop and it is included with the installation of the Linux
operating
> system. It is installed by DEFAULT. And they give it away for free.
>
> Hmmm....see the obvious parallel. Amazing similar isn't it? And yet
every
> Linux Lacky will claim this is TOTALLY different. No it's not. Same
thing,
> same reasons, same way. But denial is far easier to swallow in the Linux
camp
> apparently.
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: 13 Mar 2000 05:13:13 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Thingfishhhh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <8agv29$dgm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) wrote:
>
>> In article <38cba2e0$2$obot$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >On 03/11/2000 at 11:41 PM,
>> > Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> >
>> >
>> >> That's why the Linux/Win98SE dual boot box has only 64 meg - it's an
>> >> Intel 430TX chipset MB. It will take more ram but only caches 64 meg.
>> >
>> >Unless, of course, you are running OS/2. Then all the ram can be used
>> >provided you tell the Bios you are smart enough to run OS/2. I have Warp
>> >running on a 430TX motherboard with the Award Bios set for using OS/2.
>> >When thus set, all 96 megs are available and the swapfile never grows
>> >beyond the allocated size.
>>
>> Unless you are a complete fucking idiot
>
>Maybe it's me, but anytime you address anyone over a computer matter
>this way says to me you need a break and/or to get laid, and you take
>this WAAAAAAAY to seriously.
Nah just treating Bob how he treats others.
>
>Are computers really worth that kind of venom and angst?
You'd have to read Bob's hate filled diatribes on non-OS/2 using people to
answer that question.
>
>--
>"go sell your salted fish." Ho You Kong, Feb 16, 2000
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From: Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 05:25:12 GMT
Jason Bowen wrote:
>
> You'd have to read Bob's hate filled diatribes on non-OS/2 using people to
> answer that question.
He doesn't just limit it to non-OS/2 using people. He distributes his hate
equally to all factions. That's his way of demonstrating that he's not a
bigot.
--
The wit of Bob Osborn in action:
"Perhaps it something you should try to your kids don't end up as stupid as
you."
"There is an old saying fartface."
"Not only are you a filthy low-life lying bastard pig, you are too stupid to
know it."
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From: "Rich Cloutier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Humor: Beer?
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:44:19 -0500
This was sent to me recently. Unfortunately, I don't know the origin. It was
originally out of date, as it didn't mention Win98 or Linux, and the
references to NT were obsolete. However, I thought it was humorous enough to
update and post here.
DOS Beer:
Requires you to use your own can opener, and requires you to read the
directions carefully before opening the can. Originally only came in 8-oz.
can, but now comes in a 16-oz. can. However the can is divided into 8
compartments of 2-oz. each, which have to be accessed separately. Soon to be
discontinued, although a lot of people are going to keep drinking it after
it is no longer available.
MAC Beer:
At first, came only in a 16-oz. can, but now comes in a 32-oz. can.
Considered by many to be a "light" beer. All the cans look identical. When
you take one from the fridge, it opens itself. The ingredient list is not on
the can. If you call to ask about the ingredients, you are told that "you
don't need to know." A notice on the side reminds you to drag your empties
to the trashcan.
Windows 3.1 Beer:
The world's most popular. Comes in a 16-oz. can that looks a somewhat like
MAC Beer, but you open it differently. Requires that you already own a DOS
Beer. Claims that it allows you to drink several DOS Beers simultaneously,
but in reality you can only drink a few of them, very slowly, especially
slowly if you are drinking a Windows Beer at the same time. Sometimes, for
no apparent reason, a can of Windows Beer will explode when you open it.
Windows 95 Beer:
The can looks a lot like a MAC Beer can, but tastes more like Windows 3.1
Beer. It comes in 32- oz. cans, but when you look inside, the cans only have
16 oz. of beer in them. Most people will probably keep drinking Windows 3.1
Beer until their friends try Windows 95 Beer and say they like it. The
ingredient list, when you look at the small print, has some of the same
ingredients that come in DOS Beer, even though the manufacturer claims that
this is an entirely new brew. Some cans will explode when opened. Most
people find that the cans take up more room in the fridge than Windows 3.1
Beer, so they had to get bigger refrigerators.
Windows 98 Beer:
This beer looks just like Windows 95 beer, but comes with a free bottle of
Tequila, which you have to take, even if you don't like Tequila. The
manufacturer claims that the beer tastes better than Windows 95 Beer and
that the cans won't explode any more, but in reality it tastes the same as
Windows 95 Beer and some cans still explode, especially if you store them
next to other manufacturers' beers in your fridge. The cans are even bigger
than Windows 95 beer, requiring you to buy yet another fridge.
Windows NT Beer:
Comes in 32-oz. cans, but you can only buy it by the truckload. This causes
most people to have to go out and buy bigger refrigerators. The can looks
just like Windows 98 Beer, but not every can opener will work on it. Touted
as an "industrial-strength" beer, and suggested for use only in bars. The
manufacturer will teach you how to serve it and drink it for $900.00.
Linux Beer:
Comes only in 32-oz cans. You can buy it, but if you know what you're doing
you can get it for free. Comes with a label kit so you can make it look like
any other beer, or even design your own label. You have to place the can on
the counter before you open it. The people who drink it claim that there are
valid, if arcane, reasons for this, and that if you do it for a while, you
will get used to it. They also claim it never explodes when you open it. If
it does explode, it is because of the opener you used, not the beer. And in
the unlikely event a can does explode, it won't affect any of the other
beers in your fridge. Many people don't like Linux beer, but people who
drink it regularly think it tastes better and goes down easier. They claim
that because it explodes less, you can spend more time drinking it and less
time mopping up spilled beer. Anyone can make his own beer and sell it as
Linux Beer, but they have to provide all the instructions on how to make it
to anyone who wants them.
--
Rich C.
"Have you supported a new Linux user today?"
To reply by email, remove the "abc_" from my address.
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From: "Rich Cloutier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Predatory LINUX practices with NETSCAPE Navigator!
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:54:23 -0500
"xxx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I doubt anyone in this group will answer after this comment as it is very
> clear that you do not understand the DoJ vs M$ case. It is in fact far
more
> complicated then just the Browser.
>
> .......
>
>
> hot_offer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Everyone complains about Microsoft putting the Internet Explorer icon on
> the
> > desktop and including it with the installation of their operating
system.
> > Monopolistic and controlling. And they give it away for free.
> >
> > Yet, install any distribution of Linux and they put the Netscape
Navigator
> icon
> > on the desktop and it is included with the installation of the Linux
> operating
> > system. It is installed by DEFAULT. And they give it away for free.
I don't know much about the DOJ issues, but MY issue is not whether IE is
supplied for free, or even that it is installed by default. MY issue with it
is that you CAN'T easily UNINSTALL it, removing any trace of it from your
system, like you CAN with Netscape on any Linux distribution, even if it IS
installed by default. MY issue with it is that it purposely interferes with
any other browser I may decide to use on Windows. They have taken this one
step further in my opinion, as I have a system that, since upgrading to IE5,
Netscape won't even INSTALL on.
> >
> > Hmmm....see the obvious parallel. Amazing similar isn't it? And yet
> every
Similar, yes, but parallel? Not even close.
> > Linux Lacky will claim this is TOTALLY different. No it's not. Same
> thing,
> > same reasons, same way. But denial is far easier to swallow in the
Linux
> camp
> > apparently.
How about swallowing the WHOLE story?
--
Rich C.
"Have you supported a new Linux user today?"
To reply by email, remove the "abc_" from my address.
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From: "Ray Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Buying Drestin Linux Was (Re: Drestin: time for you to buy UNIX for
DumbAsses
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 05:55:11 GMT
W2K is very stable and reliable and so is NT. I've been using them for
years and never had directories mysteriously disappear on me. The only way
that a directory disappears is to actually delete it..
"5X3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8agrej$23eq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In article <8aeb6p$3oq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (5X3) wrote:
> >> >
> >> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy George Marengo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 13:08:59 -0500, "Drestin Black"
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> <snip>
> >> >>>Yes, it installed, I have no idea if it installed right because I
> > haven't
> >> >>>really done anything with it, there isn't really anything to do with
it
> >> >>>other than type shit at the CLI or fire up a browser in the
> > windows-clone
> >> >>>GUI and be impressed that even if X crashes I can telnet in, kill
the
> > task
> >> >>>and try again!
> >> >>>
> >> >>><click>
> >> >
> >> >> IOW, you did this with a chip on your shoulder. Just like the
> >> >> LinVocates that you complain about who install Windows just
> >> >> to find every problem they can with the install or the OS itself,
> >> >> with no intention of actually using it with an open mind to see if
> >> >> they might actually <gasp> like using it.
> >> >
> >> > There is no chance that Dresden will ever, ever give linux a fair
> > chance.
> >>
> >> It is not a matter of 'ever'. He can't do it. He knows only M$. Unless
> >> he has a button to click the guy is completely lost. Very sad (except
> >> he makes this newsgroup so much fun even though I have him killfiled).
> >>
>
> > I love it when that happens... they can't take it and won't even listen
to
> > the other side. blinded by linvocacy and unwilling to even consider it's
> > possible linux isn't perfect - he slips his blinders on, his rose color
> > glasses and doesn't even see the train coming... :)
>
>
> I understand fully that linux isnt perfect; thats why I choose FreeBSD for
> most "important" tasks, like my workstation at my job. But I also
understand
> that for my applications (various and sundry) NT is much, much worse.
>
> And so is W2K btw. What the fucks up with stuff I stick in the recycle
bin
> coming back after deletion? And what about mysterious disappearing
> directories? I just recreated an MP3 tree for the 4th time and im sick to
> death of doing it man.
>
>
>
>
> p0ok
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From: "Rich Cloutier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hosted web server - suggested config?
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 01:15:34 -0500
"Tim Cain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:%HZy4.6618$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi!
>
> A buddy and me are looking at the possibility of getting
> a business venture off the ground, which relies heavily
> on a database, accessible via the web 24x7x365.
>
> We're looking at about 60 users tops in the 1st year, and
> would count ourselves very unlucky if 20 were accessing the
> database at the same time. The projected size of the database
> is less than 1Gig.
>
> The "obvious" way to go is some big box with RH6.1+*, which
> we can get hosted fairly cheaply under the old pals act of
> 1999.
> (*you snag Oracle FOC with this distro, I'm led to believe)
>
>
> The only sticking point is the spec of the machine...
> Anybody got any ideas or relevant experience in this field
> of endeavour, please don't keep quiet!
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Tim.
I guess the big question is, how are you getting on the 'net? What type
internet connection will you have?
Since you want it to be up 27/7/365, you might want more than one
machine.....with UPS....and RAID. You can start with 2 or 3 small machines
and move up to bigger ones as your load increases.
...and you might want to consider one of the 'BSDs instead of Linux. I don't
have experience with them, but my ISP uses it, and it seems to be the choice
for small, secure web applications.
--
Rich C.
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