Linux-Advocacy Digest #820, Volume #25           Sun, 26 Mar 00 13:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: VMWare vs. Bootmanagers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser. (Involuntary)
  Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) (Zeke Setzer)
  Re: UNIX recruiters and MS Word resumes (Lee Sau Dan)
  Re: Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser. (Involuntary)
  Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) (George Marengo)
  Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) (George Marengo)
  Re: Predatory LINUX practices with NETSCAPE Navigator! ("Francis Van Aeken")
  Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) (George Marengo)
  Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) (George Marengo)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VMWare vs. Bootmanagers
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 16:58:41 GMT

Why not do both!!
You can have NT and Win98 installed on physical partitions and be
capable of running them either directly on the machine or under vmware
for Linux. You do this with the hardware profiles under windows.
Basically you would do item 2 below, then create some hardware profiles
for the Win installations, and then create virtual machines under
vmaware for linux that are configure to use a raw disk instead of a
virtual disk. You will find that vmware virtual machines run
significantly faster when using raw disk installations anyways. See the
vmware documentation for the finer details on how to do this.
Note you can do the same thing with Linux under Vmare for NT.
Perry
In article <8bhgk5$hne$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"gcaldwel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm going to install multiple OSs on my computer, so I nailed it down
to
> uses Partition Magic and Boot magic or VMware.
> Are any of you using VMware for Linux? How does the virtual platforms
> perform. Is there any problems with performance do to running in a
virtual
> window. Can files be shared between the installed platforms.
>
> I have 256 megs of ram and a 30 gig drive in my PC
>
> I'm looking for some pros and cons of each to help me decide which
> configuration I want to use.
>
> 1) VMware
> Remove windows from the OS and installed Linux .
> Install VMware for Linux
> Then install windows 98 on a virtual platform
> install windows NT on virtual platform
> install BeOS on virtual platform
>
> 2) Use partition magic to create new partitions
> Install Linux in second
> then Windows NT in next
> then BeOS in next
> use IBM Boot manager or Boot Magic to boot between the operating
> systems
>
> Any comments would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Gerald
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>


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From: Involuntary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
rec.video.satellite.dbs,alt.satellite.tv,rec.video.satellite.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x,comp.infosystems.www.browsers,comp.infosystems.www.browswers.misc
Subject: Re: Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 17:15:16 GMT

On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:32:34 -0800, "N. George"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:

> I hate IE as well; I am running Netscape v4.72 in Win2k Pro and it
> crashes me too... --Nat

For me Netscape was crashing all the time, not to mention the fact that
it loads pages at about 1/3 the speed of IE due to it's horrible
handling of the cache.  IE might not handle the cache perfectly either,
but it does a much better job than Netscape.

involuntary
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From: Zeke Setzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 17:21:15 GMT

When I was in school they taught me that "Percentage Of Precip" meant
the historical probability of precipitation falling at the forecast
point, in other words 50% means that in the past with similar
conditions, it happened at the point 5 out of 10 times.  I am not sure
if that is still the rule today.

If you really want to compare the different companies there are pages
like this one where you can input your zipcode and get direct links to
every forecast available on the web:

http://www.weatherwatchers.org/forecast/waterloo

In article <J2iD4.14666$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Bob Germer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:38dda78b$2$obot$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > If you find your local weather reports to be more accurate than
the ones
> > > where I live, more power to you. I have, however, found that my
local
> > > reports to be very inaccurate.
> >
> > Inaccuracy when it occurs is most frequently due to the
unavailability of
> > sufficient data regarding storms over the oceans adjacent to our
> > coastlines. This is also true throughout Europe and eastern Asia,
Japan,
> > etc.
> >
> > Your criticism of the US Weather Bureau, Accuweather, AWS, etc. is
totally
> > refuted by the facts. Every day, the accuracy of longer term
forecasting
> > is becoming more accurate as more ocean bouys are activated, more
ship
> > reports are obtained, satellite technology advances, etc. Typhoons
> > (hurricanes) remain the biggest wildcard in forecasting. Our
understanding
> > of them is increasing exponentially as we plant those ocean
reporting
> > bouys. We can now give warning of approaching tornados 15 or more
minutes
> > before they strike in most instances.
>
> Sounds good and all, but it's still quite frequently (every other week
or
> so) that I hear "99% chance of rain and thunderstorms!" and there
> is no thunderstorm, there's a little bit of thunder, and it rains in a
few
> parts of the state, but there's no thunderstorm or high winds, etc.
>
> Maybe one day, perhaps.
>
> -Chad
>
>


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From: Lee Sau Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UNIX recruiters and MS Word resumes
Date: 27 Mar 2000 01:43:32 +0800

>>>>> "A" == A transfinite number of monkeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    A> Besides, I always get around this by saying, "Oh, I don't use
    A> Word at all.  Here's my resume in HTML format."  Anyone can
    A> read that.  After all, we're talking about a *UNIX* job here,
    A> and last time I checked, Word doesn't run on any Unix platform.

Oh!  It's  so kind  of you  to have used  HTML.  I  would send  them a
Postscript  file instead,  and  then say  "For  best viewing  results,
please  view  it  with   any  version  (not  necessarily  the  latest)
Ghostview, *FREELY* downloadable from <a href="Ghostview">here</a>.".

People have  been doing something like that  with HTML/{latest version
of  IE/Netscape}.   So,  why  not  start  yet  another  tradition  for
Postscript/{any version of Ghostscript}?


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From: Involuntary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
rec.video.satellite.dbs,alt.satellite.tv,rec.video.satellite.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x,comp.infosystems.www.browsers,comp.infosystems.www.browswers.misc
Subject: Re: Dish Network's site is DOWN if you don't use M$'s browser.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 17:51:15 GMT

On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:16:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert
Heininger) posted:

> Dish Network and all other aspiring web site developers need to get a clue :
> and they can find it here:
> 
> 
> http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign
> 
> 
> If I can't view a site with Lynx : they don't get my business. It's that
> simple.

I can understand your concern.  When I've got a headache, I turn of
image loading, background image loading and I use my own text colors for
reading on the web.  However, some of the stuff on that site is just way
too restrictive.  The internet and computers, while widely used, are
still in their "infancy" so to speak.  Most people who are new to the
web will use Internet Explorer or Netscape unless they're strong-armed
into using something like Lynx or Mosaic.

I have built a page or two in my time and I prefer speed over
flashiness, though I did experiment with appearance once and found that
my home page displays perfectly on my machine as far as color matching
goes, but I loaded it on another machine and colors matched horribly,
especially at lower color depths.

While the opening page for my home page (which I haven't touched for
months) uses java for rollover images and frames, if you have a browser,
you can see the color matching problem here:

   http://home.earthlink.net/~involuntary/

If you want to see just the title frame which is nothing more than a
background image with an image on top of it, load this page:

   http://home.earthlink.net/~involuntary/title.html   

I was going to do some work on it today, but I may wait a few days until
anybody who wants to see it has done so.  No, there are no
advertisements on the opening page. :-)

The colors match perfectly on my PC at all color depths expect 256
colors.  But then I run at 24-bit or 32-bit color since I have the video
memory to do it.

Now I like having a page that looks nice, but I also don't like going
overboard on graphics and special functions that do nothing but make the
site slow to load.

Once I even thought about making a whole website that was nothing but
80-character lines of fixed-width multi-colored text on a black
background.  It would look similar to a BBS.  It would certainly be
fast, but it would take a lot longer to create something like that in a
WYSIWYG editor, and even longer in a text editor.

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From: George Marengo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 17:55:51 GMT

On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:41:11 -0500, Bob Germer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 03/25/2000 at 09:16 PM,
>   George Marengo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>
>> Actually, I generally just go outside and check for myself, because it's
>> about as accurate as the weather report. How about you, do you find the
>> weather report from a meteorologist to be highly accurate?
>
>As a pilot with nearly 44 years experience and over 30,000 hours, I find
>met reports very, very good for the most part; they are critical to safe
>flight around the world. I have trusted my life to those reports.

Hey, that's great Bob -- if you're flying around the area it doesn't
surprise me in the least that you'd refer to the meteorologist since
the area that you'd likely be traveling in/through are greatly
expanded from those that I've been talking about.


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From: George Marengo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:00:32 GMT

On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:44:51 -0500, Bob Germer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 03/26/2000 at 01:28 AM,
>   George Marengo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>>> >On the contrary, there is a difference between facts and opinions.
>
>> Of course.
>
>> >> They happen to carry the weight of law, but it is essentially another
>> >> persons opinion. 
>> >
>> >Are you saying that no facts were revealed during the course of the
>> >investigation and subsequent trial?
>
>> No, that's not what I'm saying. The fact is that MS broke the law.  That
>> OS/2 is now largely relegated to the also rans being due to  MS's
>> actions isn't. In the Judges findings, that's what he opined.
>
>If the Judge finds that John Doe fired a gun in the direction of Richard
>Roe and that Richard Roe is dead, his opinion will be that John Doe did
>the crime. The fact is that John will spend many years in jail or possibly
>be executed.

You're absolutely correct -- but what does that have to do with the
Judges opinion being just that, an opinion? 

>With the exception of Paraguay, I found the met reports to be reliable,
>the forecasts as accurate as the technology of the times allowed, the
>opinions of the forecasters well founded. 

That's the problem... as well as the technology allows. I can see to
the coast, and if the coast is clear -- well, you tell me what today's
weather should be like, assuming a west to east pattern.

>Your criticism of the US Weather Bureau, Accuweather, AWS, etc. is totally
>refuted by the facts.

I'm referring to a very specific case of the weather in my
neighborhood -- not the percentages for the county or area.


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From: "Francis Van Aeken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Predatory LINUX practices with NETSCAPE Navigator!
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 14:36:26 -0300

Chris Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8bk3ct$1bc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <8bj2hr$je1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]..

> >> Actually, this is a very bad example.  First of all, MSFT doesn't make IE
> >> for unix systems.  Second of all, what other major browsers besides

> >Last summer, when I was doing Web development, one of the browsers
> >I tested my code with was the Solaris version of IE. It ran quite nicely.

> Why is it that the *ONLY* people who say Solaris version of IE runs nicely
> are Microsoft advocates?

First of all, I was pointing out that MS makes IE for at least one version of UNIX.
Can at least the truth be said?

Then, why do you say that I am a Microsoft advocate? What's you motivation
for saying that? The fact that I said it ran nicely? I should have known. On COLA:
   - good things about Linux or bad things about MS = FACTS
   - bad things about Linux or good things about MS = FUD

Then, it *did* run quite nicely when I tested my code. For one thing, it has its
fonts built in, which helps a lot on Solaris.

> Most of the people who actually *USE* Solaris say the Solaris version of IE
> is a pile of buggy shit.

What study are you refering to? "Most of the people" != "some fellow advocates".
Anyway, I have used Suns almost exclusively for at least 5 years (when there
wasn't yet the NT workstation alternative). vi, troff, I've been through it all (and
I will never go back). Most people I know that still use Solaris don't touch IE,
because it's made by MS. Yes, many Sun users don't like MS, can you believe
that?! (You're not supposed to respond to that. It's an ironic rhetorical question.)

I don't know whether, in general, Solaris IE is buggy. Functionally it looked
a lot like the Windows counterpart. Anyway, all I said was that it ran quite
nicely when I tested my code. So, please tell me, what is your problem?
The truth?

Francis.




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From: George Marengo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:02:58 GMT

On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 07:01:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>George Marengo writes:
>
>>>>>> No, I'm not a die-hard supporter of any OS. The OS is simply a means
>>>>>> to an end for me -- using software that I want or need to use.
>
>>>>> Then what is your participation in this newsgroup for you?
>
>>>> I didn't say I don't advocate particular OS's from time to time. 
>
>>> You did say that you gave up on OS/2.
>
>> Correct.
>
>So what's the interest in this newsgroup due to?

We've already been there -- please pay attention.

>>>> I said I'm not a die-hard supporter; i.e., I will switch an OS when 
>>>> my needs dictate that I should do so.
>
>>> What a novel concept.  I've been telling people to use the right tool
>>> for the job for years.
>
>> Great, then we at least agree on that.
>
>Is there something we don't agree on?

You tell me...

>>>> My posting to os2.advocacy was because I didn't notice that 
>>>> someone had cross-posted to nt.advocacy.
>
>>> Correction:  postings.  Multiple instances of "didn't notice"?
>
>> Of course I noticed in subsequent messages, but by then I 
>> was caught up in the dialog. Do you make it a habit to post to
>> *.nt.avocacy?
>
>No, but I do believe that responses should reach the same audience.

So do I... what's your point?


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From: George Marengo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 18:08:24 GMT

On Sun, 26 Mar 2000 07:06:36 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>George Marengo writes:
>
>>>>>> Bob Germer wrote:
>
>>>>>>> It is quite obvious that you are totally unable to comprehend the Findings
>>>>>>> of Fact. They clearly, absolutely, unequivocally, without question, beyond
>>>>>>> a shadow of a doubt contradict what you state above. That makes what you
>>>>>>> said a lie. That makes you a liar.
>
>>>>>> You were right the first time. I was unable to comprehend the 
>>>>>> Findings of Fact because I found them to uninteresting.
>
>>>>> Just as I said:  you're not interested in the facts but rather in what
>>>>> someone thinks.
>
>>>> The facts referred to are the legal opinion of a Judge.
>
>>> On the contrary, there is a difference between facts and opinions.
>
>> Of course.
>
>So why did you call "facts" a "legal opinion"?

Just because a Judge gives his legal opinion, it doesn't become fact. 

>>>> They happen to carry the weight of law, but it is essentially another
>>>> persons opinion. 
>
>>> Are you saying that no facts were revealed during the course of the
>>> investigation and subsequent trial?
>
>> No, that's not what I'm saying. The fact is that MS broke the law. 
>
>Is that what you call a "legal opinion"?

No, since the decision on record is that they violated U.S. law. 

>> That OS/2 is now largely relegated to the also rans being due to 
>> MS's actions isn't.
>
>Isn't what?

Isn't a fact -- please follow the thread.

>> In the Judges findings, that's what he opined.
>
>Is that what you call a "fact"?

It depends on the point of the opinion.

>>>>> Tell me, when you want to know whether it's going to rain tomorrow,
>>>>> do you ask some random person what they think, or do you consult a
>>>>> meteorologist for some facts?
>
>>>> Actually, I generally just go outside and check for myself,
>
>>> How can you determine by going outside right now whether it's going to
>>> rain tomorrow?
>
>> Very easily. The weather pattern for Southern California generally
>> brings comes from the north west
>
>I'm not familiar with "comes" used as a noun.

That's your problem.

>> -- what's out there today will shortly get to my house tomorrow.
>
>Illogical, given that weather patterns tend to move something like
>30 mph, thus you'd need to be able to see 720 miles away.  That's
>over your horizon.

You live where I live? 

>> I have, however, found that my local reports to be very inaccurate.
>
>Compared to what some random person thinks?

Compared to some random person? Yes. 


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