Linux-Advocacy Digest #820, Volume #31 Mon, 29 Jan 01 14:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Sound a networks (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Sound a networks (Pete Goodwin)
rh 6.2 and wu-ftp 2.6.0-14 ("Chad")
Re: Desktop MTTF, Linux, lets get some numbers. ("Edward Rosten")
Re: And after all that, it worked! ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Question: where do I get help? (Mark Styles)
Re: Yup, it's definatly Mandrake (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy! (Pete Goodwin)
Re: rh 6.2 and wu-ftp 2.6.0-14 (.)
Re: Linux Myths -- What I'd call Part II is here! ("Edward Rosten")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Bruce Scott TOK)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Bruce Scott TOK)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Bruce Scott TOK)
Re: Windows is fired again ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push. ("Edward Rosten")
Re: How long does your box run for? ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Linux and it's important role in healing the 'digital divide' (jtnews)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Bruce Scott TOK)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Bruce Scott TOK)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Bruce Scott TOK)
Re: Desktop MTTF, Linux, lets get some numbers. ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: GODDAMNED STINKING PIECE OF SHIT THOLEN ("[Bad-Knees]")
Re: Microsoft is fired. ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push. (Bruce Scott TOK)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound a networks
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:55:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Do any run X + KDE 2.0? If they do, tell me, how buggy this set up is?
>
> I've looked at KDE 2, and it's coming along. but it's still a
> bit buggy, and for now I'm running helix gnome, which has
> reached a pretty good level of stability.
Precisely. If you would compare like with like...
--
---
Pete
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
------------------------------
From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound a networks
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:57:48 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > When I said it hung, the music stopped,
> > the mouse froze etc. You think I don't know the difference between the
> > whole thing hanging and one application going bad?
>
> based on your posts, no.
Why do you say that?
Sounds like the old dogma to me. If he supports Windows, he's obviously
lying. Did it not occur to you that I'm not?
--
---
Pete
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
------------------------------
From: "Chad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rh 6.2 and wu-ftp 2.6.0-14
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:12:50 GMT
I have rh 6.2 and recently installed package wu-ftpd-2.6.0-14.6x. My
security team says, "Version 2.6.0 still contains security exposures". They
are suggesting to install wu 2.6.1, but I would rather just stick with the
rh rpms. Can someone shed some light on this?
Thanks.
------------------------------
From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Desktop MTTF, Linux, lets get some numbers.
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:18:28 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "mlw"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, the latest FUD tactic of the winvocates is to say that Linux is
> unstable with a GUI. Lets get some numbers together about desktops.
>
> Take the number of hours, total not just current uptime, that your
> system has been running, and divide by the number of crashes you've had.
> Lets be accurate and generous, an X crash that can only be fixed using
> telnet or ssh, should be counted as a crash.
Does this count as a crash?
Playing around as root with custom SVGA programs and trashing the VGA
registers. Leaves the computer functional (the three finger salute
reboots it safely) but the screen garbled. A soft boot wouldn't fix it:
it needed a power cycle.
And another one: Having a crashed program (one of my own, and run as
root) leave the keyboard in scan code mode. Needed a power cycle seeing
as I didn't have another terminal.
Basically, these were all caused by doing stupid things as root which no
user is able to do.
> Send this information to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Each mail should have these lines:
>
> machine: name hours: 4000 crashes: 0
>
> Machine, followed by hours, followed by crashes. Each one on its own
> line, and each with a number following a colon after the word. You may
> have more than one machine per document. Only one mail (multiple
> machines) per email origin will be counted.
>
> I will write a quick program to calculate.
>
> I will try to reduce spam data by: email from Windows machine will be
> rejected. questionably high crash numbers will be double checked.
> unreasonably small crash numbers will be double checked.
Normal practice it to discard all extremes. How anbout discarding
anything not within 95% of the mean. I think that's reasonable.
> If I get a usable response, I will post these numbers periodically.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
------------------------------
From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: And after all that, it worked!
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:19:13 +0000
In article <953r0d$mfr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Pete Goodwin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A half day later and the Linux box is up and running.
>
> FTP into the box runs _slowly_. No idea why that one occurs.
>
> Telnet works fine.
>
> SAMBA works fine, though one PC had to be reconfigured to "see" it.
>
> Now we wait for the dev. kit. 8)
TROLL ALERT!!!!
Calssic signs: posting a problem with NO datails.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
------------------------------
From: Mark Styles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question: where do I get help?
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:15:19 -0500
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:38:50 GMT, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mark Styles wrote:
>> kernel: eth1: Abnormal interrupt, status 00002002
>> or
>> kernel: eth1: Abnormal interrupt, status 00000002
>
>Are you using realtek 8139 cards?
Yes.
>I asked about this and was told it was a harmless debug message.
hmm, in that case I'm tempted to hack the code to get rid of it, I
like tidy logfiles :)
Who did you ask?
------------------------------
From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Yup, it's definatly Mandrake
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:10:13 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ok, downloaded all the RPMS out of date (from "normal" list) and reboot.
> > What happens just minutes later? My Debian style KDE2 menus (part of
> > Mandrake 7.2) are MISSING. My "office" section, my "networking"
sections
> > are both eradicated from the list. I figure it was a glitch, so I
rebooted.
>
> First mistake. You should have waited until update-menus completed.
You mean it doesn't tell you when it's finished?
> > Upon getting BACK into KDE2, the menu's are STILL Missing! I guess
I had
>
> That's because you did not wait until update-menus was finished
> running.
Does it tell you when it's finished?
> > hit a defective mirror, so I REINSTALLED Mandrake 7.2.
> >
> > Did the same thing, rebooted into KDE2 after the reinstall, and ran
> > mandrakeupdate, tried a more "offical" mirror, rebooted.
> >
> > This time, "Networking", "Configuration" AND "Office" are ALL
missing from
> > the menu! I reboot AGAIN! STILL MISSING.
> >
>
> Same thing. Just run update-menus and wait until it finishes. Note
> that it will send a bunch of processes into the background, do it from
> a console and keep trying ps until yousee that it is complete.
WHAT! That's a pretty naff way to do that sort of thing!
--
---
Pete
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
------------------------------
From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy!
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:14:17 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am truly amazed at the sudden and universal shift in multiple people's
> arguments. Within a day, Win2K went from reliable yada,yada,yada, to
"Linux is
> unstable with a GUI" and :its not "good on the desktop."
Now when did I say "Linux lags behind Windows". Was it yesterday I
wonder? The day before? The week?
Try a couple of months or more.
> This is in some ways very good.
>
> Every argument they have had, has been squelched, and they know it.
Linux beats
> their system hands down in all the criteria they used to use, thus
have to come
> up with new criteria.
Same criteria.
> Desktop, Linux is a very good desktop for most people, and the
applications are
> coming.
Sure, if all you want to run are multiple CLI's.
> stability vs GUI? This is a new argument, this is the first time I
have seen it
> mentioned. I have had my current machine for 6 months, it has been on
steady
> for about 24x7 with a few planned reboots due to kernel changes, yet I
have had
> no X/GUI failures.
Then you haven't been reading carefully have you. What does "Linux lags
behind Windows" mean?
--
---
Pete
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: rh 6.2 and wu-ftp 2.6.0-14
Date: 29 Jan 2001 18:20:02 GMT
Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have rh 6.2 and recently installed package wu-ftpd-2.6.0-14.6x. My
> security team says, "Version 2.6.0 still contains security exposures". They
> are suggesting to install wu 2.6.1, but I would rather just stick with the
> rh rpms. Can someone shed some light on this?
Sure. You're an idiot, do what your security team tells you.
=====.
------------------------------
From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Myths -- What I'd call Part II is here!
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:21:41 +0000
In article <953pud$mhv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Are you the bmeyer who had a winning entry in the IOCCC?
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Scott TOK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 29 Jan 2001 19:18:34 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>why is having a guy as President that actually has a universal set of
>morals such a bad thing? Some people view having a good moral
>background as more important than being able to supposedly invent the
>Internet or 'putting the economy back on track'. They are only his
>morals in the fact that he has embraced them, just like most other
>Christians in the world. You can't say he shouldn't share them b/c they
>are God's to share, not his. If Bush dies those morals still exist, even
>if a lot of people like making their own.
You fell for that PR Bullshit like a real sucker didn't you.
Bush has no moral background. Neither does Gore.
--
cu,
Bruce
drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Scott TOK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 29 Jan 2001 19:22:45 +0100
In article <94sp41$ehd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <94snje$ekf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:
>...
>>Wasnt there something about a government BY the people and FOR the
>>people written down somewhere?
>...
>
>The US is a republic not a democracy. Kindly read the Federalist Papers
>for the rationale behind not trusting the populace. It has a government
>of laws, and the laws in the state of Florida were fairly clear, and
>the polling stations had signs giving instructions that voters should
>make sure that their ballots were punched through and to remove hanging
>chads. And if they double-punched, they could ask for new ballot papers.
>
>Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
Typical racist nonsense. You forgot to mention the harassment and lies
(oh, the polls are closed today, at 15h00) that caused many people who
were on their way to the polls not to vote. And you also forgot the
fact that many black people were denied registration because of felony
even though they were not felons at all.
Florida has a long history of such stuff. Even in Democrat-run
districts, where some of the abuses occurred, against a segment of the
electorate that in Florida was voting 13-1 Democrat. Just Stupid.
--
cu,
Bruce
drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Scott TOK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 29 Jan 2001 19:24:20 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) writes:
>
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
>>
>> Perhaps. But ill put my verbal SAT score up against yours or anyone
>> elses, any time.
>
>You mean << I'll >> and << else's >>? ;)
>
>We just need better election equipment. Jeb Bush's primary goal right
>now is to upgrade all the counties in Florida, so he can wipe the egg
>off his face. Even in remote states like Idaho, we're re-vamping the
>entire system before the next congressional election.
I really don't understand all the problems they had with the counting.
Here in Germany, people vote by ticking a box on a slip of paper, and
the counting is done in 1-2 hours. In Munich that is 900,000 votes.
--
cu,
Bruce
drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
------------------------------
From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows is fired again
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:25:03 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Matthias Warkus"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was the Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:39:28 +0000...
> ...and Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Winfile.exe is the Win3.11 file manager, IIRC. It was not too bad IMO.
>
> Yeah. Unlike the user interface design desaster which is the Windows
> 95 Explorer, it was actually quite usable.
>
> In the same verge, Windows 3.1's file requesters were the last ones that
> were halfway decent. The sideways-scrolling nightmare introduced with
> Windows 95 was so bad that I was truly surprised how Microsoft managed
> to make it worse with every release.
One pet hate: You can't resize the dialogue boxes. Even the `crappy'
netscape lets you resize dialogue boxes.
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
------------------------------
From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push.
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:28:14 +0000
>>>> If you bought a car and it was crap and broke down the whole time,
>>>> would you buy another of the same make . Lets say you gave them a
>>>> second chance when they said the new version is really reliable, but
>>>> it wasn't.
>>>
>>> What other choice is there compared to Windows?
>>>
>>> Macintosh? What software?
>>
>>
>>
>> There's most software that most people need. You can do web stuff, edit
>> photos, do email, wordprocessing, spreadsheets. That's what most people
>> do.
>
> Macintosh: Most Applications Crash, If Not, The OS hangs ;)
Have you ever used a mac?
Oh, sorry. I just got the joke.
Never mind.
Time for coffee...
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
------------------------------
From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How long does your box run for?
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:29:38 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Richard J. Donovan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No -- I didn't know any better!
That really is snipping to excess!
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:31:02 -0500
From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and it's important role in healing the 'digital divide'
Most of the developing world doesn't
care about copyright law. Windows
is usually pirated so they get Windows
for free anyway.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Most of us know the exciting possiblities of Linux in the developing world
> where money simply does not exist to buy new computers to run expensive,
> proprietary software. Yet is there any formal documention out there directly
> outlining why Linux is so suited to playing a great role in healing this so
> called 'digital divide'?
>
> I may be wrong be it seems from some initial research that the Linux
> community is not doing enough to make its incredible potential in this area
> known to the rest of the world. I checked out the following sites commited
> to the introduction of IT and the Internet in developing countries and did
> not find one mention of Linux:
>
> http://www.lincos.org
> http://www.computeraid.org
> http://www.computersforindia.org
> http://www.worldcomputerexchange.org
> http://www.electroniccommunity.org
>
> Does anyone know of projects like these that are using Linux as a core part
> of their solution?
>
> If there is indeed no documentation in this area I would only be too happy to
> help develop a jargon-free ' whitepaper' that clearly outlines the great role
> Linux can play in the developing world.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Parin.
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Scott TOK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 29 Jan 2001 19:27:51 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>yeah <sarcasm> what a horrid idea to actually believe in God huh? <sarcasm>
Then why are so many of the people who wear it on their chests such
bloody hypocrites?
>Considering the US was founded on Christian beliefs I find this normal
>and hopeful that people might actually have a set of morals not based on
>their own ideology (which would be inherently imperfect given we are human).
Except that the self-professed moralists are so immoral in fact.
--
cu,
Bruce
drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Scott TOK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 29 Jan 2001 19:28:49 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Steve Ackman wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:11:37 GMT, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >John Hasler wrote:
>> >
>> >> Edward Rosten writes:
>> >> > Christian morals were also invented by people.
>> >>
>> >> And the US was _not_ founded on "Christian beliefs".
>> >
>> >You're splitting hairs -
>> >
>> >There was a strong deist influence, at the very least.
>>
>> Jefferson was a Deist, yet was branded an Atheist by his
>> Christian detractors. Deism is a far cry from Christianity.
>>
>
>But did he use _Linux_? Or was he another MicroSofty? :-)
They were elitists who were terrified of democracy. They would have
used Windows. :-)
--
cu,
Bruce
drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Scott TOK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 29 Jan 2001 19:35:46 +0100
In article <9516hv$hru$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joseph T. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: Sorry, Open Source was essentially created by RMS, an American who followed
>: his principles for something like 10+ years before Linus got on the
>: bandwagon. Why do you people like to think the US never invents anything?
>
>
>That is incorrect. RMS has nothing to do with "Open Source," and
>admits that free software predates him by a long time - he may have
>popularized, written, and supported a great deal of it himself, but
>the idea is at least as old as computing itself.
RMS reacted the way he did because of the way all the free software
which up to then was the norm in his (academic) circles was getting
snapped up by patenteers and sell-outs in the early 1970s. The lecture
he gave at that Swedish University a few years ago was pretty clear on
this.
--
cu,
Bruce
drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
------------------------------
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Desktop MTTF, Linux, lets get some numbers.
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:55:19 -0600
Self-selected surveys are nowhere near accurate. In general, only the
people with good results are going to send you data, despite the obvious
weigthing of the survey by your parameters.
"mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> OK, the latest FUD tactic of the winvocates is to say that Linux is
unstable
> with a GUI.
> Lets get some numbers together about desktops.
>
> Take the number of hours, total not just current uptime, that your system
has
> been running, and divide by the number of crashes you've had. Lets be
accurate
> and generous, an X crash that can only be fixed using telnet or ssh,
should be
> counted as a crash.
>
>
> Send this information to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Each mail should have these lines:
>
> machine: name
> hours: 4000
> crashes: 0
>
> Machine, followed by hours, followed by crashes. Each one on its own line,
and
> each with a number following a colon after the word. You may have more
than one
> machine per document. Only one mail (multiple machines) per email origin
will
> be counted.
>
> I will write a quick program to calculate.
>
> I will try to reduce spam data by:
> email from Windows machine will be rejected.
> questionably high crash numbers will be double checked.
> unreasonably small crash numbers will be double checked.
>
>
> If I get a usable response, I will post these numbers periodically.
>
>
> --
> http://www.mohawksoft.com
------------------------------
From: "[Bad-Knees]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: GODDAMNED STINKING PIECE OF SHIT THOLEN
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:48:14 -0800
Can't we just all get along:)
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
> >
> > >>> 12 years of YOUR GODDAMNED POLLUTION ON USENET.
> >
> > >> Liar.
> >
> > > Are you contesting 12 years, or the assessment that you
> > > contribute nothing to USENET other than an ENDLESS STREAM OF
> > > the most GODAWFUL POLLUTION IN EVERY NEWSGROUP YOU INFEST.
> >
> > Both.
>
> BzzzzzzzzzT! Wrong.
>
> Try again, retard.
>
>
>
> >
> > >>> JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND JUMP IN THE GODDAMNED VOLCANO, YOU
MISERABLE
> > >>> SHIT SACK.
> >
> > >> Practice what preach, Kulkis.
> >
> > > THIS IS ABOUT *YOU*, THOLEN
> >
> > My response is about you, Kulkis.
>
> The discussion is not about me, it's about YOU tholen.
> Stay on subject, if you can, retard.
>
> >
> > >>> YOU ARE A GODDAMNED WASTE OF SKIN.
> >
> > >> How ironic.
> >
> > > YOU'RE AND OXYGEN THIEF, TOO.
> >
> > Classic ineffective invective. Not unexpected from someone who
> > lacks a logical argument.
>
>
> No...merely a display of my utter contempt for you.
>
>
> >
> > >>> Tholen, ***YOU***, personally, are 100% crap.
> >
> > >> How ironic.
> >
> > >>> Tholen admits that he's so goddamned stupid that he can't figure
> > >>> it out himself.
> >
> > >> Liar.
> >
> > > THEN PROVIDE CONCLUSIVE PROOF THAT YOU CAN, IN FACT,
> > > FIGURE OUT HOW TO JUMP INTO A VOLCANO YOURSELF WITHOUT
> > > HAVING TO RESORT TO THE LOW-IQ "MONKEE SEE--MONKEY DO"
> >
> > Unnecessary, Kulkis.
>
> Then why do you need a demonstrator, monkey-boy?
>
> >
> > > Then provide us with conclusive proof that you can, in fact,
> > > figure out how to jump into Muana Loa, or any other active
> > > volcano of your choosing, WITHOUT needing to resot to the
> > > low-IQ "MONKEE SEE--MONKEE DO" method of instruction.
> >
> > Unnecessary, Kulkis.
>
> Prove it.
>
> >
> > > Tholen, I'll bet you can't even picture in your mind what it would
> > > be like to travel up to the peak, walk up to the precipice, and take
> > > the plunge.
> >
> > You lose the bet, Kulkis.
>
> Prove it.
>
> >
> > > No...because to even imagine such a thing would require a modicum
> > > of intelligence...something which you are severely lacking.
> >
> > Prove it, if you think you can, Kulkis.
>
> Your posting history speaks for itself.
>
> >
> > > In the mean time, do the world a fucking favor, Tholen
> >
> > I'm trying to do just that right now, Kulkis, but you won't pay
> > attention.
>
> Then follow through and go become one with Muana Loa.
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft is fired.
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:00:40 -0600
"Peter Köhlmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >
> > Just because you're not aware of it, doesn't mean it's not documented.
> > Hell, .lnk is also hidden.
> >
> > Scrap files (.shs) is documented in knowledge base entry Q138275. My
> > January 2000 copy of MSDN shows a last review date of October 31st 1999.
> > Although it doesn't mention that the extensions for SHS files are
hidden,
> > it does mention that they're special OLE shell objects, which if you
know
> > anything about the shell, you know that extensions for shell objects are
> > hidden.
> >
> Well, Erik, there you got one which certainly tells all the world how
right
> you are.
> knowledge base entry Q138275
> Aha.
> That is something which even the dumbest windows-luser MUST know about.
Why do you people insist on changing the subject? The subject was about
Virus writers using undocumented features of Windows, presumeably gained
through viewing stolen Windows source code. This is not about average
windows users knowledge, but whether something is documented or not.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Scott TOK)
Subject: Re: Whistler, yet another Windows push.
Date: 29 Jan 2001 19:48:01 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"." a écrit :
>> Whilst downloading scores of binaries from select newsgroups under windowsME,
>> I discovered that the client im using for downloading has a severe memory
>> leak problem.
>>
>> I let it run anyhow.
>>
>> Right up until the bluescreen.
>>
>> Yep, thats stability alright.
>
>It's a nice blue though isn't it?
>I hope I don't have to see those when I go vote.
>"Your application has caused a page fault, press OK
>to vote again for George Bush or ctrl Alt Esc to reboot"
hahahahahahahahahahaha
--
cu,
Bruce
drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list by posting to comp.os.linux.advocacy.
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Advocacy Digest
******************************
