Linux-Advocacy Digest #877, Volume #25 Wed, 29 Mar 00 23:13:03 EST
Contents:
Linux user groups ("John")
Re: BEOS 5 the new star in OS's (piddy)
Re: BEOS 5 the new star in OS's (piddy)
Re: BEOS 5 the new star in OS's (piddy)
Re: BEOS 5 the new star in OS's (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Opensource article first chapter draft for criticism ("Tim Haynes")
Re: BEOS 5 the new star in OS's ("horst")
Re: Producing Quality Code (mlw)
Re: This was posted to the 'alt.humor.best-of-usenet' and well I think ("Bobby D.
Bryant")
Re: BEOS 5 the new star in OS's (Chris Lee)
Re: This was posted to the 'alt.humor.best-of-usenet' and well I think it needs to
be posted here... :) (Jim Richardson)
W2K: The "Mr. Creosote" of operating systems
Re: A pox on the penguin? (-: Linux Virus Epidemic? HAH! :-) (Leon Brooks)
Re: Opensource article first chapter draft for criticism (John Hasler)
Re: Windows 2000: nothing worse (Jim Richardson)
Re: Microsoft takes gas on Hotmail ("Joseph T. Adams")
Re: Producing Quality Code (Mark Hamstra)
Re: This was posted to the 'alt.humor.best-of-usenet' and well I think (mlw)
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From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux user groups
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:36:42 -0800
Hello,
I'm starting a linux users group in holland Michigan. Interested? email me
at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (piddy)
Subject: Re: BEOS 5 the new star in OS's
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 00:42:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 28 Mar 2000 19:50:39 -0800, bob@nospam wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
.
>>It defaulted to 640x480 on my computer, but in less than 5 minutes I
>>found a way to adjust it to 800x600 and changed the refresh rate from
>>56 to 72 to cut down on flicker. Try that with Linux!
.
>with COREL linux, it took my less than 1 minute. go to control panel,
>and go to setting. it is that easy.
.
>I've tried BEOS. It does not give my anyting I do not get with linux, and
>linux provides much more.
..
I love your sister, sir, I think she wants to procreate with me.
Hope this helps...
piddy
.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (piddy)
Subject: Re: BEOS 5 the new star in OS's
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 00:50:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 28 Mar 2000 22:53:38 -0500, Jeff Pack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (piddy) writes:
.
>> BEOS 5 is ready for downloading, but the site is too busy.
.
>> Btw, it's well worth taking a look at. It's fast, looks great, is as
>> easy as the Mac. Just click around and you can figure things out.
>> Don't count on it working with Win-modems and the off brand sound
>> cards though.
.
>Well, it did look good, but it doesn't support my laptop's graphics
>controller or my Ethernet card, which cuts into its usability. In
>addition, sometimes on boot my keyboard was dead. (There may be
>drivers available if the version 4 drivers work, but I haven't been
>able to reach any Be-affiliated site consistently today.)
.
>Still, with a bit more driver support it could be a great replacement
>for Win9x.
.
Tell that to Linus.
>> It defaulted to 640x480 on my computer, but in less than 5 minutes I
>> found a way to adjust it to 800x600 and changed the refresh rate from
>> 56 to 72 to cut down on flicker. Try that with Linux!
.
>It's been a while since I did that, but it's just a trivial modification
>to XF86Config (which contains comments and examples), right
I thought you're inadequate.
.
>> My wheel mouse worked and scrolled most windows. I'm seriously
>> thinking of getting a different modem and sound card and using
>> this for web browsing, file downloading, and fun stuff.
.
>I would like to get Be working, because it looks really promising for
>casual use. I didn't use it enough to get a feel for its resiliency,
>though, and the GUI didn't look as flexible as Enlightenment.
.
Linus whishes he could be be, but he can't be, but that's ok, cause
being be is not an easy thing to be.
>> If it had apps, I'd say it had an excellent chance to make it big.
.
>It's been out for 12 hours or so. Give it time.
.
>> piddy -- Linux now sucks more!
.
>Linux hasn't changed much since yesterday. And it's better than all
>the other options available to me.
Be beckons to you to be the one and only to be your one and only to be
...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (piddy)
Subject: Re: BEOS 5 the new star in OS's
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 00:53:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:23:46 GMT, "Erna Odelfsan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Just ignorant of BE, is it GPL ?
You sir are in danger of be ing. Can you be? I thought not. Now be
elseware.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: BEOS 5 the new star in OS's
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:00:24 GMT
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 00:50:30 GMT, piddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 28 Mar 2000 22:53:38 -0500, Jeff Pack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (piddy) writes:
>.
>>> BEOS 5 is ready for downloading, but the site is too busy.
>.
>>> Btw, it's well worth taking a look at. It's fast, looks great, is as
>>> easy as the Mac. Just click around and you can figure things out.
>>> Don't count on it working with Win-modems and the off brand sound
>>> cards though.
>.
>>Well, it did look good, but it doesn't support my laptop's graphics
>>controller or my Ethernet card, which cuts into its usability. In
>>addition, sometimes on boot my keyboard was dead. (There may be
>>drivers available if the version 4 drivers work, but I haven't been
>>able to reach any Be-affiliated site consistently today.)
>.
>>Still, with a bit more driver support it could be a great replacement
>>for Win9x.
>.
>Tell that to Linus.
Compared to Be, Linus and his Cabal is doing rather well in
this respect. Considering that Be should have access to some
nice juicy inside NDA'ed information, they're current showing
is somewhat dissapointing. Be's an underachiever at this point.
[deletia]
>>> My wheel mouse worked and scrolled most windows. I'm seriously
>>> thinking of getting a different modem and sound card and using
>>> this for web browsing, file downloading, and fun stuff.
>.
>>I would like to get Be working, because it looks really promising for
>>casual use. I didn't use it enough to get a feel for its resiliency,
>>though, and the GUI didn't look as flexible as Enlightenment.
>.
>Linus whishes he could be be, but he can't be, but that's ok, cause
>being be is not an easy thing to be.
No. Linux usually wishes it could be NeXT on Steroids. Be
is a nice little re-engineered MacOS. This is both it's
greatest strength and greatest weakness. Meanwhile, people
still have usability issues with Be not even getting into
hardware compatibility issues.
[deletia]
--
It is not the advocates of free love and software
that are the communists here , but rather those that |||
advocate or perpetuate the necessity of only using / | \
one option among many, like in some regime where
product choice is a thing only seen in museums.
Need sane PPP docs? Try penguin.lvcm.com.
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From: "Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Opensource article first chapter draft for criticism
Date: 29 Mar 2000 21:13:14 +0100
Reply-To: "Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH) writes:
> Software costs resources to "engineer", it doesn't cost anything to
> "produce". Keep in mind that most people think of "production" in terms
> of the generation of physical deliverables. The problem isn't so much the
> use of wrong terms but the use of pre-industrial terms to information age
> processes.
Hmmmm. Maybe this is where 'software engineering' and 'open-source' differ
- not that one is "more formal" than another (it works both ways) but
rather that the former leads to batch-produced engineered stuff spewed by
folks under pressure to someone else's worse guidelines, whereas the latter
tends to be done for its own sake, for fun, and leads to imaginative
code. The difference being like a can of coke or a tin of "Nourishment"
(which I refuse to digest on principle, with a name like that).
~Tim
--
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| w--- O- M-- V-- PS PGP++ t--- X+(-) b D+ G e++(*) h++(*) r--- y-
| The sun is melting over the hills, | http://piglet.is.dreaming.org/
| All our roads are waiting / To be revealed | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "horst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BEOS 5 the new star in OS's
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:28:54 GMT
haven't used it, but have read that it supports bash and almost all of the
fsf/unix utilities. Seems like it's an easy port from unix which would make
it a nice little developer/desktop workstation, no?
>But I am all for more OS's out there. the more the better, this way
>people will have choice on what to use. I wish all the success for BeOS,
>but I love Unix and Linux :)
>
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Producing Quality Code
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:33:00 -0500
n@p wrote:
>
> In article <8b9cp4$3g3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "by" says...
>
> >> A good programmer does not have to know all the detailes, as long
> >> as they have the brains to find out about it as needed.
> >
> >True, but they should understand basic algorithms (qsort, btree, etc) well.
> >
>
> Here where you are wrong.
>
> programming is a very wide range, one can spend many years writting
> software and never have to do a single sort.
>
> You think a device driver engineer does btree and qsort all day?
> If you interview a kernel engineer and ask them to tell you the big
> O for qsort and to code a parallel version of it, they will most
> likely not know right away. so what?
>
> The point is, the details are not important, as long as the person
> has some brains and the education in basic computer science and
> the experience, that is good enough for me.
>
> After you leave school, and work in the real world for few years,
> the important skills become not the detailes of coding something, this
> is something any one can pick up by reading few pages from a book.
>
> The important things is how to approach a design problem, how to think
> about solving a problem, and how to organize your thoughts and how
> to do research. The rest is detailes.
>
> Those who ask detailed coding questions about one specific area in an
> interview are missing what it takes to make a good software engineer.
>
Here is where you are wrong...
I am a kernel developer. I know how to write these algorithms. The
reason I know that they are important is because you should use the
concepts regularly. You speak of device driver people. When was the last
time you coded a bitblt routine? In the kernel, every last machine
cycle is important.
When I interview someone, I usually have two things I want to measure.
Do they know the system on which they are working, and do they
understand how to write good code.
If an NT or Windows device guy can't tell me the difference between and
LDT, GTD, segment and a selector. I don't want him, it means he does not
work with an acceptable depth of understanding. An app guy, I would ask
something else. I want a guy (or woman, I don't care) that will be
confident their approach will work, and know why it will work. This is a
special type of programmer.
The next thing I look for is the thought process. If the person does not
know how to write good code (good being defined as a efficient, stable,
easy to read, logical, ...) I don't want them. To write good code, you
gotta know how hash tables, trees, lists, sorts, etc. work. It does not
mean you write them all day, it means that you know about them, know
which is appropriate and why, when is writing your own better than using
a third party's, stuff like that. If they don't understand, they don't
have valid judgment, thus are not good programmers.
--
Mohawk Software
Windows 9x, Windows NT, UNIX, Linux. Applications, drivers, support.
Visit http://www.mohawksoft.com
"We've got a blind date with destiny, and it looks like she ordered the
lobster"
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: This was posted to the 'alt.humor.best-of-usenet' and well I think
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:46:38 -0600
"Dan J. Smeski" wrote:
> As many of you have heard...
I'm all in favor of jokes about Linux (or anything else I hold sacred)...
...but the joke *does* need to be funny.
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee)
Subject: Re: BEOS 5 the new star in OS's
Date: 30 Mar 2000 02:19:38 GMT
In article <8bruif$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bob@nospam says...
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>>It defaulted to 640x480 on my computer, but in less than 5 minutes I
>>found a way to adjust it to 800x600 and changed the refresh rate from
>>56 to 72 to cut down on flicker. Try that with Linux!
>
>with COREL linux, it took my less than 1 minute. go to control panel,
>and go to setting. it is that easy.
>
>I've tried BEOS. It does not give my anyting I do not get with linux, and
>linux provides much more.
Exactly. BEOS is nothing but the Amiga rehashed,and quite frankly I want
nothing to do with another Amiga...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Subject: Re: This was posted to the 'alt.humor.best-of-usenet' and well I think it
needs to be posted here... :)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 02:41:50 GMT
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:50:55 -0600,
Dan J. Smeski, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>Subject: Linux and Bowling
>From: "Dave Marsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
>
>As many of you have heard some Microsoft Execs are buying the PBA bowling
>tour.
>Rumor has it that Linux execs backed out of buying the PBA when the PBA
>wouldn't agree to their terms.
> Here's some of the Linux group's demands.
>
>1. All scores would be kept in scientific notation.
>
>
>2. Bowler would not be allowed to bowl without first calculating for all
>possible factors (slip, spin, speed, time, etc,) and presenting the logic
>behind such calculations.
>
>
>3. Bowlers would not be allowed to wear matching socks or eyeglasses without
>masking tape wrapped around the noserest.
>
>
>4. If the pinsetting machine or ball return fail to work.correctly the
>bowlers would be required to stay up all night fixing it.
>
>
>5. The bowlers would be allowed to bowl for free, but parking is $75.00 per
>hour.
>
>
>6. The pins would not always fit into the pinsetting equipment, but could be
>made to work with a few hours of "tweaking"
>
>
>7. All equipment used by the bowlers would be the same as what is used
>now,
>but for some unexplained reason wouldn't always work.
>
>8. Penguin poop on the lanes is to be considered an enhancement.
>
>
>9. Bowlers can bowl in any way they want no matter how bizarre as long as
>other bowlers are informed of their new approach and are free to use it.
>
>10. Any gutter balls are to be attributed to Microsoft.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Micros~1, after purchase PBA, has announced a few minor changes.
1. For standardisation, all bowling balls will be made of lead, and weigh
120 lbs
2. This will require that all bowling lanes be upgraded to MS 1.5 concrete,
available fall 2000
3. All PBA bowlers will wear the same size shoes, in fact, shoes will be
interchangable left to right.
4. No non-MS gloves will be permitted, gloves will be available from
MS partners at an MSRP of $140.
5. Scores will be maintained in MS-bowling format, and revealed only to
PBA members who have fully paid up their MS-PBA membership
($1000 per annum, per bowler)
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: W2K: The "Mr. Creosote" of operating systems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 03:04:44 GMT
http://www.montypython.net/showimage.php3?PIC=/pix/meaning/creo.jpg
http://www.montypython.net/showimage.php3?PIC=/pix/meaning/vomitcln.jpg
Have another DLL. They're wafer thin!
http://www.montypython.net/showimage.php3?PIC=/pix/meaning/explode.jpg
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From: Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: A pox on the penguin? (-: Linux Virus Epidemic? HAH! :-)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 03:10:51 GMT
> Drestin Black wrote:
Actually, Alex Boge wrote...
> [stupid nonsense snipped]
Deja vu on Deja News. )-:
> No one needs or gets root in unix.
And for those rare occasions when it's easier to give them root, there's
always sudo to grudgingly mete out rights. And a whole pack of tools for
doing things like sensing dead NT servers and sending an automatic SMS
message to their owners through quios' website.
> For home users ... oh wait ... home users don't use linux, right
> Drestin?
This one uses nothing else. My wife would fight to keep some of her
Linux tools and games. (-:
> As usual, completely full of shit.
Windows must lack fibre or something?
--
If at first you don't succeed, try a shorter bungee.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Opensource article first chapter draft for criticism
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:54:09 GMT
Tim Haynes writes:
> Maybe this is where 'software engineering' and 'open-source' differ - not
> that one is "more formal" than another (it works both ways) but rather
> that the former leads to batch-produced engineered stuff spewed by folks
> under pressure to someone else's worse guidelines, whereas the latter
> tends to be done for its own sake, for fun, and leads to imaginative
> code.
That's a pretty extreme oversimplification. Much free software is done for
pay, and there can be plenty of tension and pressure in the all volunteer
projects.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000: nothing worse
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 03:43:21 GMT
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:22:22 GMT,
Chad Myers, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>
>"Jim Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >But it's not that big of a deal, really, because IIS runs user connections
>> >with different user contexts (usually the anonymous account IUSR_SERVERNAME,
>> >but if they log on using NTLM or SSL/Basic, then they assume that user's
>> >security context, and thusly, that user's permissions and rights.
>> >
>>
>> hm, I don't see the diff from apache et-al really. (but that may or may
>> not have been the point, I don't recall :)
>
>The point originally was made that IIS runs everyone as the "inetpub" user
>and has no concept of security or user context, I believe. Which, of course,
>is completely false, as I just illustrated.
>
><honest sincerity>
>JOOC, (off topic somewhat), how does apache handle anonymous users and
>authenticated users?
></honest sincerity>
>
If I understand the question correctly... (and bearing in mind that I am no
apache guru) Apache is started by root, and switches to the user defined
in the config. (usually a dedicated www account, with no log in ability.)
anon. Users, run as the user specified above. CGI stuff either runs as the
owner of the script (for ~/user/cgi-bin stuff) or as the user in the config.
Of course you can use .htacess and other methods to limit access.
If that doesn't answer the question, then I probably didn't understand it :)
>
>> >> >What happens if you lose the root password?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> reboot into single user mode and fix it. Reboot required, no reinstall
>> >> required.
>> >
>> >And this is a good thing?
>> >
>> it is for the casual home user, if it's a big time data center, then
>> they better start with physical security and work up from there. If
>> they don't have phys-sec, they do not have a secure system. OS doesn't
>> even enter into it until after physical security is taken care of.
>
>But with NT (SP3 and later), if your physical security was somehow
>compromised, it would be rather difficult and time consuming to get
>access to the machine. With Win2K, if the files are EFS, it's near
>impossible to ever get the files out.
Absent encryption, all I need to do is boot with a floppy, or rip out the
hard drive and scan it, without phys-sec, you do _not_ have a secure system.
With encryption, things are better, assuming that the encryption is well
designed and well implemented, unfortunately, going from Microsoft's past
performance in that area, I'd be very leery of trusting it.
>It's frightening to know that someone could just walk up with a boot disk
>in *nix and set the root and have their way with the system...
>
>I suppose you could PGP the important stuff, though...
>
Again, without phys-sec, you have nothing. If you assume otherwise, you
are begging to get screwed bigtime, encryption is better than no encryption.
Even with bios passwords, or no floppy drive, there are ways to boot the
system, W2K/NT or no.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft takes gas on Hotmail
Date: 30 Mar 2000 03:51:13 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Cary O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I thought the saying at microsoft was "Eat your own dog food".
Have you sampled any of their "dog food"? It tastes as though it has
been through the dog at least once already. :(
They use a lot of NT and W2K in places where I sure as hell wouldn't.
I do give them credit for trying to use their own products where
possible. It's just that Microsoft products are not up to some of the
tasks that any large business needs. Everyone who's technically
knowledgeable understands this. Unfortunately, PHBs tend not to,
which is why you still see NT and even 95/98 in places where steaming
piles of recycled Alpo would be much more useful.
Joe
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From: Mark Hamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Producing Quality Code
Date: 29 Mar 2000 22:29:11 -0500
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am a kernel developer.
Of what kernel? I don't see your name in the Linux CREDITS file,
neither does your resume list any employment by Microsoft or other
OS vendors. It does look like you've got a bit of experience
writing some device driver code and a dynamic OS module or two,
but just writing some kernel mode code does not a kernel developer
one make. IMO, you are doing the actual Linux and other kernel
developers a disservice by stretching the truth in this way.
If you really have contributed to the Linux or other kernel
development, then you have my apology; else I, for one, would
appreciate it if you would refrain from calling yourself a kernel
developer in the future and suffice it to let it be known that
you've done some device driver work.
No offense intended, but when some people are doing Open Source
kernel development for no reward other than recognition, I really
hate to see someone trying to claim more than his fair share of
that meager reward.
--
Mark Hamstra
Bentley Systems, Inc.
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: This was posted to the 'alt.humor.best-of-usenet' and well I think
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:07:52 -0500
Jim Richardson wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:50:55 -0600,
> Dan J. Smeski, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> brought forth the following words...:
>
> >Subject: Linux and Bowling
> >From: "Dave Marsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
> >
> >As many of you have heard some Microsoft Execs are buying the PBA bowling
> >tour.
> >Rumor has it that Linux execs backed out of buying the PBA when the PBA
> >wouldn't agree to their terms.
> > Here's some of the Linux group's demands.
> >
> >1. All scores would be kept in scientific notation.
> >
> >
> >2. Bowler would not be allowed to bowl without first calculating for all
> >possible factors (slip, spin, speed, time, etc,) and presenting the logic
> >behind such calculations.
> >
> >
> >3. Bowlers would not be allowed to wear matching socks or eyeglasses without
> >masking tape wrapped around the noserest.
> >
> >
> >4. If the pinsetting machine or ball return fail to work.correctly the
> >bowlers would be required to stay up all night fixing it.
> >
> >
> >5. The bowlers would be allowed to bowl for free, but parking is $75.00 per
> >hour.
> >
> >
> >6. The pins would not always fit into the pinsetting equipment, but could be
> >made to work with a few hours of "tweaking"
> >
> >
> >7. All equipment used by the bowlers would be the same as what is used
> >now,
> >but for some unexplained reason wouldn't always work.
> >
> >8. Penguin poop on the lanes is to be considered an enhancement.
> >
> >
> >9. Bowlers can bowl in any way they want no matter how bizarre as long as
> >other bowlers are informed of their new approach and are free to use it.
> >
> >10. Any gutter balls are to be attributed to Microsoft.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Micros~1, after purchase PBA, has announced a few minor changes.
>
> 1. For standardisation, all bowling balls will be made of lead, and weigh
> 120 lbs
>
> 2. This will require that all bowling lanes be upgraded to MS 1.5 concrete,
> available fall 2000
>
> 3. All PBA bowlers will wear the same size shoes, in fact, shoes will be
> interchangable left to right.
>
> 4. No non-MS gloves will be permitted, gloves will be available from
> MS partners at an MSRP of $140.
>
> 5. Scores will be maintained in MS-bowling format, and revealed only to
> PBA members who have fully paid up their MS-PBA membership
> ($1000 per annum, per bowler)
>
6. 5 Years later, after all bowling shoe manufacturors beside MS go out
of business, MS realizes that bowling shoes should come in multiple
sizes. Touts freedom to innovate.
7. MS Patents the idea of bowling and again calls it innovation.
> --
> Jim Richardson
> Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
> WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
> Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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