Linux-Advocacy Digest #20, Volume #26 Sat, 8 Apr 00 09:13:41 EDT
Contents:
These OS debates are simply Hillarious! (Charlie Ebert)
Re: A pox on the penguin? (Linux Virus Epidemic) (Craig Kelley)
Re: Haakmat digest, volume 2451640 (Marty)
Re: You anti-Microsoft types just don't get it, do you? (Jim Richardson)
Re: Comparison between Linux and FreeBSD! (Ian Pulsford)
Re: 10 things with Linux I wish I knew before i jumped (Joel Harrison)
Re: You anti-Microsoft types just don't get it, do you? (Jim Richardson)
Re: These OS debates are simply Hillarious! ("tony roth")
Re: 10 things with Linux I wish I knew before i jumped (Jim Richardson)
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From: Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: These OS debates are simply Hillarious!
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 04:05:55 GMT
Isn't is just a riot! I can't believe peoples stupidity.
People still debating which OS is superior Linux or Microsoft.
Well,
It's totally true that my linux desktop hasn't been re-booted
in 6 months. In that time, I've written
maybe 20 or so C++ programs, and compiled a kernel a couple of times,
web browsed till bed-time every
night, wrote letters to freinds and newsgroups, experimented with
different X desktops, played with
strange and exotic GNU software and read thru about 10 man pages and
info pages.
At work I've got NT 4.0 for my OS and I compiled, and wrote
business letters yet I have to re-boot
my NT box every morning or it will blue screen on my by around 1-2 pm
every day I forget to re-boot.
Just about all my Linux desktops have multiple desktops to
switch back and forth into and out of.
My Windowmaker has 8 seperate desktops for my use. I wish NT had 8
seperate desktops. I wish
NT had a free C++ compiler and database. I wish NT ran as quickly as
linux does. I wish NT multi tasked
as well as linux does. I wish NT could network as easily as linux does.
But it doesn't. And I could debate a Microsoft fan until I were blue in
the face and it wouldn't matter to him how good linux is as he's never
going to leave Microsoft. He doesn't care.
He doesn't care that I can install my Suse 6.4 distribution
automatically. That when I install Linux
on a computer I don't have to stop occassionally to load diskette after
diskette of specialized drivers then
reboot the thing 3 times before I'm finished installing.
The typical Microsoft fan doesn't care about any of this. It just
doesn't matter to him/her that Microsoft
can't accomplish one of these feat's I've listed.
There is NO debate for these people. They don't listen or care about
debates.
They don't care that Microsoft releases double in price every release
now.
They don't care that by 2006 the Microsoft desktop for business and home
use will be close to $1,000.00.
So there is no debate which will work for these people. We will just
have to wait until Microsoft
runs themselves out of the OS business and then they will try Linux and
switchover.
A great many OS2 supporters were the same way.
As the Microsoft OS becomes more expensive due to increased costs in
producing it as they attempt to
keep ahead of Linux, more people will leave Microsoft.
People leave Microsoft of the cost reason as well as the blue screen or
re-boot continuously reasons.
People leave Microsoft because to get Windows 2000 to be similarly
equipped to say Suse 6.4, one would
spend 3-4 thousand dollars in applications costs.
This message is really intended for both the Linux Camp and the
Microsoft Camp.
The message is if your Microsoft, enjoy it whilst it is still around if
you like it.
It's not going to last another 10 years, so enjoy it while you still
can.
For the Linux group the message is, let's not get into any more moronic
debates with Microsoft people.
Loosing an OS is similar to loosing your mother for most true computer
people.
It's not a pleasant experience, it wasn't for the OS2 crowd.
Loosing your OS means you loose all your applications with it, for the
most part.
You loose all the money your dumped into your OS investment. All that
money went down the drain.
Loosing your OS also means for agencies like the Federal Court house
THAT, your long term investment
in Visual Basic and Microsoft Access has suddenly turned into poop! But
don't feel bad about that
Federal folks, the states are full of people who've done the same thing
you've done, so's the District
attorney's offices. These are all government agengies who've helped to
bust up Microsoft and now
stand directly in the machine guns path of distruction for themselves.
That's incredibly intelligent don't you think folks! Get into an
anti-trust situation with the very company
which wrote the OS you gambled your entire futures with.
Now you see why I think these OS debates are absolutely Hillarious!
They truely are.
There isn't a sole on this planet who can't say in his or her own heart
that a FREE OS which performs
better than any Microsoft product ever made can't topple Microsoft in
the OS market.
And since Microsoft's strategy was to ENGRAIN products like Back office
and Visual Basic directly
into their OS, the entire deck of cards will fall when the OS does.
Let's not say that just because you NEED a Microsoft OS to run Visual
Basic, there has been NO CRIME COMMITTED HERE.
But I'm glad to see you, once again, cut the very nose you have off your
very face.
Linux will be the dominate OS on the market soon. The future is full of
GNU licensed competitors
all offering free services to the planet at large. There will be an
almost non-existant involvement in
a commerically written OS in the future.
The day for commerically written OS's has passed into history.
Whether you debate about it or not. Who gives a flip.
Charlie
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A pox on the penguin? (Linux Virus Epidemic)
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 07 Apr 2000 22:08:43 -0600
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas) writes:
> >
> > > In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > I'm impressed Chad!
> > >
> > > > Who would have known :)
> > >
> > > That he could type very, very poor french that probably got
> > > spit out of babelfish?
> > >
> > > I would have known.
> >
> > I can speak Spanish, and that post smells like babbelfish to me.
>
> It was, I admitted it. Damned news server always eats my posts.
>
> After Steve posted that, I responded that Bable fish was the
> composer of that.
Altavista's offering is almost as good as Adam's original. :)
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Haakmat digest, volume 2451640
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 04:08:20 GMT
Eric Bennett (little bot) wrote (using a pseudotholen again):
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Eric Bennett wrote (using a pseudotholen again):
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > tholenbot wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >Today's Haakmat digest:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm so happy to see you're digesting me again. I was beginning to
> > > > >> think you had become oblivious to all that is wonderful about our
> > > > >> relationship.
> > > > >
> > > > >Your entertainment is irrelevant, Pascal.
> > > >
> > > > Careful tholenbot, I'm going to crack you up ...
> > >
> > > What you are going to to is irrelevant. What you do is relevant.
> >
> > Non sequitur, as no one has mentioned what he is going to to.
>
> More reading comprehension problems, Marty?
You are erroneously presupposing previous reading comprehension problems on my
part, Bennett (little bot).
> Typical, coming from someone who fails to local the grasshopper.
Typical unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, Bennett (little bot).
> > > > >> >> There's something irresistible about you.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Then explain why so many people claim to kill-file me (and I
> > > > >> >emphasize the word "claim").
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Perhaps they love to hate you.
> > > > >
> > > > >Aren't you certain? Predictable.
> > > >
> > > > ... crash you up ...
> > >
> > > Illogical.
> >
> > On what basis do you make this claim?
>
> Ask your mentor, Marty.
I see you've failed to answer the question, Bennett (little bot). No surprise
there, Bennett (little bot).
> > > > >> >> fl. 10 or fl. 15 if you star in it.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >And how many others would be willing to pay the same?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Just you and me, Dave.
> > > > >
> > > > >Evidence, please. Did you ask all others?
> > > >
> > > > ... and hack you to pieces!
> > >
> > > Also illogical.
> >
> > Also pontification.
>
> Of what relevance is that remark?
Weren't you paying attention, Bennett (little bot)?
> > > Meanwhile, you fail to answer the question. Typical.
> >
> > How ironic, coming from someone who typically fails to answer the
> > question.
>
> Who is that, Marty?
More evidence of your reading comprehension problems, Bennett (little bot).
> > > Are there any kooks in the theatre tonight?
> >
> > Don't you know?
>
> Don't you know?
I see you've failed to answer the question, Bennett (little bot). No surprise
there, Bennett (little bot).
> > --
> > The infinite wisdom of Bob Osborn:
>
> What is allegedly "infinite" about it?
Still having reading comprehension problems, Bennett (little bot)?
> > So what are you trying to say here, Bobo?
>
> Perhaps you should try asking that question in a post made in response
> to Bobo, Marty.
Aren't you sure, Bennett (little bot)?
> --
> Are there any kooks in the theatre tonight?
I've already addressed this issue above, Bennett (little bot).
--
The infinite wisdom of Bob Osborn:
"It sounds as if you think somehow queers are better than morons and idiots
and we know that is not the case."
Jeff Glatt says:
"'Idiot' and 'moron' are not descriptive labels for people with learning
disabilities despite your own inability to grasp this very simple fact."
Bobo responds:
"I agree that it is not descriptive so why do you insist on using labels long
improperly attributed to the learning disabled?"
[Editorial: Note the admission that "idiot" and "moron" are derogatory in
nature and are not proper ways to refer to those with mental disabilities.]
Bobo says:
"I never suggested that it was proper to address a retarded person in this
way."
[Editorial: Re-affirming that referring to retarded persons as "idiots" and
"morons" is unacceptable.]
Regarding his position on the matter:
"My argument may not be of any importance to anybody, but at least it is
consistent"
[Editorial: So if we accept this, it's safe to assume that his usage of the
words "moron" and "idiot" are also consistent, hence they are derogatory
terms.]
"It sounds as if you think somehow queers are better than morons and idiots
and we know that is not the case."
So what are you trying to say here, Bobo?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: You anti-Microsoft types just don't get it, do you?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 04:13:54 GMT
On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:35:46 -0400,
doc rogers, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>"Truckasaurus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:8ck06q$ppp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Closed standards will kill off competetion, open standards make it
>> thrive. Windows advocates often mention that Bill Gates/MS made PCs
>> affordable and easy to handle. That might be true.
>> But isn't it time, that this powerful tool that controls so many
>> aspects of society is given a chance to develop in a way that is not
>> controlled by one single company (one single man?) ?
>
>It has that chance without government intervention, hence Linux, BeOS, Mac
>OS, FreeBSD, etc. And if it didn't, it still wouldn't justify government
>intervention in my opinion.
>
>> Why are Windows advocates so scared that MS monopoly gets inhibited?
>
>I don't like the government getting involved with most things. I don't like
>regulation of any businesses. I don't like mandatory licensing of any
>professions (including doctors, lawyers, etc.)
>
>> If MS Windows was so great, consumers would stick to it, no matter what
>> happens.
>
>Well, I don't care if they stick with it or not.
>
>> Are you guys scared that the consumer, who is Oh so satisfied
>> with the Microsoft way will choose a different path, once he/she is
>> given the opportunity? I think you are...
>
>You already _have_ an opportunity to purchase other OSs and other systems
>with OSs preinstalled.
>
>
>--doc
>
>
I have to say, that I agree here, as much as I dislike and distrust M$, having
the govt step in is likely to be a big mistake IMHO. M$ is allready beginning
to panic, I doubt that the govt will move fast enough to kick them on the
way down. I am much more worried that the fedgov will decide that since they
told M$ what they could and could not include as part of the OS, then they
might as well keep doing that with other folks.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:18:18 +1000
From: Ian Pulsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Comparison between Linux and FreeBSD!
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> DO NOT turn your noses up at FreeBSD.
>
> While I actually prefer Linux as a desktop, it's greatly enhanced support of the
> hardware, it's many
> applications,,, FreeBSD is a decent desktop and one whale of a server.
I agree with you totally. One day when I get a nice newer shinier PC,
I'll be whacking Linux on it to support the newer hardware and apps but
I will be retaining my current (PII) with FreeBSD as the File server -
samba and NFS/router/firewall/squid proxy/DNS machine it currently is.
I was running a buggy app with a memory leak (more like a flood). I
checked memory usage and found FreeBSD was swapping 500M (on a currently
64M machine)! Yet FreeBSD was still robust enough that I could easily
open an xterm and kill it with almost no delay.
I wonder though if Linux will overtake FreeBSD in the things FBSD is
best at one day soon with Linux's accelerating rate of development.
IanP
--
"Dear someone you've never heard of,
how is so-and-so. Blah blah.
Yours truly, some bozo." - Homer Simpson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joel Harrison)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 10 things with Linux I wish I knew before i jumped
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 04:29:54 GMT
I'm still fairly new to Linux, only having used it for about a year
now. I got ahold of a CD originally because I wanted to learn UNIX
to make myself more marketable as an employee (I was fresh out of
college). I blindly set out installing Linux as a dual boot on my
Win98 machine (using non-destructive partitioning), ignoring the
warnings of my friends who suggested that was maybe not the smartest
thing for a newbie to do. I prevailed and slowly grew to love Linux
and its power.
I still use both Windows and Linux, as I run a network with Linux on
the backend (and on my desk) and Windows clients, and networking works
tons better than the old sysadmin's NT setup (thanks in no small part
to Samba and Eckstein/Collier-Brown/Kelly's "Using Samba" -- another
shameless O'Reilly plug). I last rebooted the main fileserver in
January when I had to physically move the machine to a new location.
At work, I've never had a hardware conflict setting up Linux.
Everything was detected and configured out of the box, including
video, ethernet card, and sound card. Strangely enough, my desktop is
identical to every other desktop in the office and I have to dig
around for video, net card, and sound card driver floppies anytime I
do a maintenance re-install on a Windows box.
At home, I use an HP Pavillion (no comments from the peanut gallery).
The $20 WinModem didn't work at all in Linux, but then it didn't work
great in Windows. The $80 Actiontek I bought works much better in
Windows and flawlessly in Linux. The sound card was built into the
WinModem and didn't work for all the obvious mass-market PC reasons.
My new SBLive! works great using Creative's beta drivers. (I haven't
checked their site in months, is the new crop of drivers better than
December's versions?)
Things I think any newbie should know before getting baptised into
Linux:
(1) Know Thy System.
Linux runs great on older, less powerful basic hardware
configurations, but you'll still need quality peripherals. A good
modem will cost you between $60-100; external is the best, but my
internal PCI Actiontek certainly gets no complaints from me. Your
choice of sound and video cards will depend on what exactly you want
to use your machine for. My servers at work don't have sound cards,
and I didn't bother to configure any sort of GUI with them (though I
could probably get decent 1024 x 768 x 24bit out of them, even though
they are older vid cards). If you're a gamer, go to the Quake 3 Arena
site and look at their requirements. Get those cards and a copy of
Q3A for Linux. You'll have a pretty good motivation at that point to
do some extra reading to figure out the hardware settings.
(2) Reading Is Not An Option, It's A Requirement.
Learn to use the man pages, the online HOWTOs, and the quality
reference books, and don't be afraid to voice your questions on the
newsgroups. Someone out there has faced your problem before, and
they're more than glad to help you cross that hurdle. Else, someone
will code a fix to your problem and it will work its way up to the
main developers of Linux itself or of the application you are trying
to use. That is the glory of open source, and the number one
advantage over proprietary systems.
(3) Don't Panic Over the RAM
Don't panic when Linux says you're using 90% of your 128 MB memory and
has a good portion of information in your swap area. Linux doesn't
need that much RAM, but if you've got it, it'll use it. That's why
you bought it in the first place isn't it? Linux is remarkably smart
about utlizing your RAM and putting non-vital information in swap
until it becomes vital. I've never had a memory fault in Linux, even
on my 32-MB workstation at work.
(4) Linux Isn't Free.
At least, not in the way you think it is. Sure, it can be had for
nothing, or for a nominal charge, but you're going to have to invest
some serious time and effort if you want it to do exactly what you
want it to do -- and your time is valuable. You'll learn to
appreciate the avenues of power this opens up to you, but you'll have
to spread on a lot of elbow grease before you get to that point.
Linux *is* free in the sense that, if you *want* to do it, and if you
put in the time and effort, you *can* do it. Whatever you want, even
if it means rewriting a huge chunk of the basic Linux kernel to meet
your own needs. No one is going to stop you or summon you to court
for software copyright violations for taking a peek at the innards of
Linux. It's yours, and you can do with it whatever you like. Just
remember to give us all a copy on the chance that you've come up with
something we might like too!
(5) Be Easy On Yourself The First Time Out.
Don't try to compile your own kernel as your first introduction to
Linux. Don't get a little-known distribution that other users won't
be able to help you with. Get RedHat, Mandrake, SuSE, or Slackware,
which all have loyal followers in the newsgroups. Those followers are
your support channel as you take your baby steps, and each will make
many of your configurations transparent to you so you won't have to
mess with them right off the bat. After a few weeks or months, try
another distribution, depending on your comfort level. You might even
be ready to try a custom compilation. In any event, you'll have the
Linux basics down by then and you'll be wiser when it comes to the
configuration tweaking that makes Linux such a great and powerful OS.
(6) Shift Your Paradigms.
(A paradigm is a way of thinking about a particular problem; shifting
paradigms means thinking about problems in new and different ways.)
If you've mostly used Dos/Windows before, you're going to find
yourself in a totally different ballgame. When I first started out in
Linux, I was frustrated that some things didn't work the way I was
used to them working in Linux. Why are all of my files clumped
together into one directory tree? Where are my drive letters for my
two hard drives? Of course, now I relish the idea that my files are
arranged in a logical hierarchy, not arbitrarily decided by physical
hardware size. I now get frustrated that my Windows system can't make
the logical connection between its hard drives. And as for having to
mount the floppy every time I put a disk in....well, a major Windows
pet peave of mine is when the system decides to search the floppy
drive for a disk, and it takes 10 seconds for it to realize there's no
disk in the drive. Linux totally ignores the floppy until I tell it
to go look there for files.....and I don't have to worry about some
careless user with "this cool program on a floppy" messing up my
system.
You'll have to think differently about computing in order to be a
truly effective Linux user. Let go of your old prejudices and
hard-coded ways of thinking and let your mind expand.
(7) Scripting Is Your Friend.
You don't have to become an ace programmer to use Linux, but it will
help immensely if you can develop some shell scripting, and maybe some
perl. You'll pick up bits of other scripting languages as you go
along, and you'll find that they're really not that hard to pick up.
Even very complex computing languages don't have more than a few dozen
essential programming statements, and you'll find that the syntax
doesn't change too much from language to language. Each one will
excel in a particular area, and all will greatly improve your
productivity with your machine. You don't have to become a master at
all of them, but even with novice skills you will gain much control
over your system.
I don't have any more....it's late, it's Friday, and I deal with this
all week, so I'm ready to unwind and have a weekend now =)
Linux has a lot to offer, but do go into it prepared. You wouldn't
buy a car without doing a lot of shopping first, and you shouldn't
format your hard drive just because you got a free Linux CD. Check it
out, make sure it will work, and THEN step into our world.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: You anti-Microsoft types just don't get it, do you?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 04:26:01 GMT
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 17:12:55 GMT,
Leonard F. Agius, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>CG wrote:
>
>> This is very true, but it ignores the fact that most people don't
>> install windows on their machines, it comes already installed. if
>> they had to go out and buy windows installation cd's they'd be just as
>> frustrated and confused as people who don't know what they are doing
>> and try to install linux.
>>
>> frankly, while windows installations can go smoothly, often they do
>> not, and when they don't, they are a whole hell of a lot harder to
>> figure out then linux installations.
>
>I've several Win98 installs, both the original version & Win98SE, plus several
>Win95OSR2 installs. Never had a problem.
Are you talking about reinstalling a system that was functional, but is now
inop, with the same OS? or are you talking about fresh installs to new
(at least for that OS) hardware?
>
>>
>>
>> if new computers came installed with linux booting right into the x
>> windows environment, the average consumer wouldn't know the
>> difference. I know because I've set up "idiot" linux installations
>> and they work just fine.
>>
>> it is probably true that it's a little easier to add software willy
>> nilly to a windows machine, but this is part of the curse as well,
>> because nothing screws up a windows machine faster and more completely
>> than adding every crap installation, trial demo, applet etc. that
>> comes along. they can't be uninstalled half the time and eventually
>> they bring down the whole o/s. can't happen in linux.
>>
>
>It is very true about being able to add software willy nilly to a Windows
>machine, and it may be part of the curse as well. But given that there isn't
>that much Linux software out there (comparitively speaking), can you make a
>fair comparison?
of course. Because I don't use *all* the available software. You make it sound
as if there were about 12 applications total available for linux.
I install several new apps a week, mostly small ones, mostly to play with or
learn something. They go into a test $USER who has few permissions, I play with
them, and if they are useful, and safe, I might install them on the system
level, meanwhile test $USER cannont cause any system wide problems with badly
coded apps.
>>
>> oh, and linux has no viruses.
>>
>
>Can't address this one. Don't know.
>
You can write a virus for linux, it just doesn't propagate very well, and
there are some security features that make it tougher to write in the first
place. Linux will undoubtably see some virii in the future, but they are
unlikely to be a big problem like they are with windows.
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: "tony roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: These OS debates are simply Hillarious!
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:30:26 -0700
man I can't believe you took the time to post this bullshit, (your either a
bad troll, liar or just plain ignorant) what a waste of bandwidth!
"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Isn't is just a riot! I can't believe peoples stupidity.
>
> People still debating which OS is superior Linux or Microsoft.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 10 things with Linux I wish I knew before i jumped
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 04:30:27 GMT
On Sat, 08 Apr 2000 02:48:56 GMT,
Joel Harrison, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>On Sun, 02 Apr 2000 23:12:38 -0400, Shadow Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>
>You don't give enough credit to the upcoming Windows ME.....should
>offer all the hardware (in)compatibility of W2K, and maybe even a bit
>of the increased stability, at the expense of any LAN support. Sure,
>networking information will still be available for NT networks, but
>you have to go to W2K if you want to use Novell or some other non-MS
>networking version (I guess Novell et al. didn't pay their MS dues
>this year). Looks like MS isn't really planning on catering to the
>home networking market, unless they're willing to set up their own W2K
>server/client system.
>
>
>
>
Sounds like Samba usage is going to keep going up :)
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
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