Linux-Advocacy Digest #57, Volume #27 Tue, 13 Jun 00 17:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: The Mainframe VS the PC. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: The Mainframe VS the PC. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why Linux should be #1 choice for students! (Jens =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=FCfer?=)
Re: An Example of the Superiority of Windows vs Linux (Michael Marion)
Re: An Example of the Superiority of Windows vs Linux (Michael Marion)
Re: An Example of the Superiority of Windows vs Linux (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: G4 in space! ("ne...")
Re: Linux faster than Windows? (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Linux faster than Windows? (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Microsoft Stocks and your sanity... (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Microsoft Stocks and your sanity... (Pete Goodwin)
Re: An Example of the Superiority of Windows vs Linux (Michael Marion)
Re: Microsoft Stocks and your sanity... (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Where are all the astroturfers? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What else is hidden in MS code??? ("Drestin Black")
Re: An Example of the Superiority of Windows vs Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What else is hidden in MS code??? ("Drestin Black")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: Microsoft Stocks and your sanity... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Microsoft W2K lack of goals. ("Drestin Black")
Re: G4 in space! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Mig Mig ("Drestin Black")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Mainframe VS the PC.
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:55:10 GMT
<snip>
> So, how's your 80x25 text mode image editor coming along ?
<HWL> Good one, Skippy!
(It's in the can, BTW. About 15 years ago.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Mainframe VS the PC.
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:04:00 GMT
In article <0pY%4.164476$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> would say:
> >Challenge: I'm building a network. 500 users. I already have all the
> >parts except the host, which can be a Win2k Server, an AS400, or a
VAX.
> >Give me your best price, with supporting documentation to include
make &
> >model, features, and performance statistics, on a Win2k Server for my
> >500 users. And someone else give me a price on an AS400 for the same
> >role. I can already get the stats, etc. from IBM; they have nothing
to
> >hide.
>
> Note that VAXen are no longer readily available; if you're talking
> about a "VMS box," the _new_ hardware represents Alpha hardware,
> running OpenVMS.
>
> It's most entertaining that you left all variations of UNIX off the
> list, and, quite frankly, I almost approve, in that it means that
> responses can no longer say:
> "Oh, but I had a hard time installing Linux."
>
> But for this to fit on comp.os.linux.advocacy, there probably ought to
> be _some_ mention made of some UNIX-related choice...
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
> Warning: Dates in calendar are closer than they appear.
>
Shhhhh... Don't give away the next installment! ;^)
(Actually, this thread is/was so hopelessly cross-posted, I have no idea
where I am or where this is going. I just found someone bleating the
typical Bill-Gates-isms about sticker price uber alles & ran with it.)
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From: Jens =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=FCfer?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux should be #1 choice for students!
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 02:12:05 +0200
[...]
> >The fact that Linux stability, emacs capabilities
>
> huh? emacs is available on almost any system. check visual slickedit
> also.
Yes, but notice the word "stability". I had the pleasure of using LaTeX
under DOS and Windows 9x/NT (even including NT Emacs) and it was much
more strainful than using it under Linux. Plus there are a lot of other
tools like scilab (Matlab replacement), gnuplot, xfig/transfig and the
like. Granted, at least Gnuplot is available for Windows as well.
> I only agree with on latex. i only use it and nothing else to
> write any report i have to do. but the beatuy of latex is that
> it is on almost every platform.
Yes. I totally agree -- especially since I said so in my original post.
But I am still convinced that no System offers better LaTeX & Co.
implementation then Linux ;-)
Thanks for your reply anyhow.
Cheers
Jens
--
WYSIWYG is a step backwards. Human labor is used to do that which the
computer
can do better.
Andrew S. Tanenbaum
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From: Michael Marion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An Example of the Superiority of Windows vs Linux
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:17:21 GMT
2:1 wrote:
> > Gawd, you must have one h---
> > of a setup...
> > So complex! ;)
> > Mebbe mom/dad/bro/sis
> > can help. Yes?
>
> So what are you saying, as soon as you have a complex setup it's _OK_
> for Win2K not to work properly. Hell, that's like really easy to use...
That was my first thought when I read that. I also couldn't help but to
laugh out loud at the line saying maybe famliy could help... I'm the one
that fixes everything for them, all relatives, friends, etc. I've been
working on PC hardware since my first 8086 box.. and haven't bought a
complete system since the 286 that we got right after that.. I always
roll my own. I also work with Sun and HP hardware everyday, so the fact
that I can't get w2k to work with this hardware (especially since it's
supposed to be MS' most advanced OS, PnP, userfriendly, all that good
stuff) makes it even worse.
--
Mike Marion - Unix SysAdmin/Engineer, Qualcomm Inc.
Clark [talking to Cousin Eddie] "Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get
you
something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you
for
dead?" -- Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
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From: Michael Marion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An Example of the Superiority of Windows vs Linux
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:22:11 GMT
2:1 wrote:
> Install drivers if it will let you [1]
Ah.. the fun one is to replace your mobo. Win98 will ask you to insert
the CD with the drivers for the ATAPI and/or SCSI drivers... so that it
can load the driver which will allow it to see your CD drive! Figure
that one out. :)
--
Mike Marion - Unix SysAdmin/Engineer, Qualcomm Inc.
"There are no significant bugs in our released software that any
significant number of users want fixed." - Bill Gates in an interview
with
Focus magazine, Oct 23, 1995.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: An Example of the Superiority of Windows vs Linux
Date: 13 Jun 2000 14:28:47 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tim Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Regarding end-user PC's its very simple... simply just aquire devices that
>>are supported by Linux..
>
>And you still cant get the hardwair to work together. Instead of being abal to scan
>something
>and have it go strate to the printer or FAX, you half to save it to fial and cibvert
>it to
>postscrit, and thats' just to print.
Heh... Is it so slow and difficult for you to work with files under your
favorite OS that you have to have special programs to avoid them?
>FAX modems just don't work on UNIX.
Of course they do.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: G4 in space!
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:35:43 GMT
On Jun 13, 2000 at 08:40, Tom Elam eloquently wrote:
>On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:16:59 +1200, Tom Elam wrote this reply to Lawrence
>DčOliveiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>Just saw this item <http://www.spaceviews.com/2000/06/11a.html> about a
>>company that wants to put the first satellite into orbit containing a
>>Web server--and they're going to use a Mac G4!
>
>
>Hey dummy - Mac does not make the G4, Motorola makes it. Another case of an
>Apple advocate willing to let Apple take the credit for innovation that is not
>their's. Oh well, life goes on......
Er Tom, the Mac addict was right. It even mentions of
Macintosh II. No mention of Motorola or IBM tho.
--
Registered Linux User # 125653
Dave Mack: "Your stupidity, Allen, is simply not up to par."
Allen Gwinn: "Yours is."
3:31pm up 16:27, 6 users, load average: 0.12, 0.14, 0.09
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Subject: Re: Linux faster than Windows?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:45:36 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>But I do want to say that I'll accept that.
>I would like you to say which version and distribution were you using to
>perform that test?
Linux Mandrake 7.0
Pete
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Subject: Re: Linux faster than Windows?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:48:38 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>I'm going to say you don't need to do any more tests to prove this to
>yourself. I think you've done a remarkable job of proving to youself you
>don't like Linux.
Actually I was trying to throw cold water over the thought that Linux is
two or three times faster than Windows.
>Now explain to all of us why your here?
See above.
>Is it just to be a mindless asshole?
Ah back to gratuitous insults are we? This is the level of conversation I
can expect with a Linux advocate is it?
Pete
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Subject: Re: Microsoft Stocks and your sanity...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:50:00 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Fischer) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Given the fundamental problems on your Linux installation that
>you've been complaining about, I'd hesitate to use it for
>performance testing.
That was the other machine, not the one I did the tests on.
Pete
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Subject: Re: Microsoft Stocks and your sanity...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:51:35 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Salvador Peralta) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>As for your benchmarks... I'm not sure what applications you are
>running. When it comes to server-side publishing chores, image
>manipulation, filehandling/databasing, and data-extraction they are all
>built better, faster, and cheaper with linux than nt. I haven't seen
>anything that outperform gnu / open source for vertical software for
>enterprise or commercial software to handle log analysis, customer
>response, mail-list management, hypertext document formatting, etc.
POVray is a photo realistic scene generator. It uses floating point
heavily. Dhrystone does heavy integer maths. Yet in both cases, Linux ran
the same tests slower than Windows.
>linux comes with a great deal of functionality that cannot easily be
>matched by nt.
And vice versa.
Pete
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From: Michael Marion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: An Example of the Superiority of Windows vs Linux
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:52:27 GMT
Tim Palmer wrote:
> Or more likely your making it up. A Lino-nut would never pay for W2K, or anny other
>software
> for that mater.
Oh how I wish I'd made it up. If it makes you feel better, I can try to
get a scan of the receipt and put it on my web page... now if I could
get some screenshots of the crap I'm going through with w2k.. oh wait, I
can't.. it won't freaking work!
--
Mike Marion - Unix SysAdmin/Engineer, Qualcomm Inc.
[Talking about going to church]
Eric: "Hey, how 'bout you, how come you never have to go?"
Red: "Eric, God and I had a heart to heart while I watched my destroyer
go down in the South Pacific... We're real good. You're not. Go!" --
That 70's Show.
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Subject: Re: Microsoft Stocks and your sanity...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:53:33 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert L.) wrote in
<82s15.74241$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Your sb16 is not detect? Go to your reseller and change you mother
>board. It's defect.
>Have you install the driver, i mean runing sndconfig? No? So go ahead.
Ah so blame the motherboard? Not Linux. I mean, Windows detects it, no
problem, but Linux - blame the motherboard.
Of course I ran sndconfig, DUH!
Pete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Where are all the astroturfers?
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:55:52 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why is it that every time Microsoft has a big setback, the steady-
state
> level of astroturfing here drops almost to nothing for a few days? Do
> they all get called back to Redmond for a strategy meeting or
> something? Did Bill fire them for failing to influence the outcome?
> Are they hurriedly trying to learn something besides VB to put on
there
> resumes?
I think you're being a bit harsh. Chances are they're just trying to
figure out which of the two Microsofts they're going to have to cheer
for in the future. ;P
-wrinkledshirt
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: What else is hidden in MS code???
Date: 13 Jun 2000 15:14:01 -0500
Rob,
We've moved this to private e-mail - I think it best we continue there.
Set the money as you'd like, fine with me. All of this goes in writing and
is attorney reviewed before we proceed. And I've yet to take this offer.
Less interested? Why would you say such a thing, I wrote you back as soon as
I received your private e-mail. And if you read that e-mail you should
understand about my 'coming out of the closet' as you put it.
Meanwhile, tell me, can you find a backdoor in ANY Microsoft product? ANY.
Not a key named suspeciously, not a reversed text string. A backdoor as you
defined it yourself:
"That you will have to find some code that is clearly there for one
purpose and one purpose only: to allow access (or get info) without the
user knowing it and where the user would likely not agree if he knew.
The "ShoppingCart" perlscript that mailed info of the machine where it
was being installed on, to the writer of the script, had a clear case of
a backdoor. *That's* what we're talking about."
Do you think you could find such a thing in ANY MS software? Just curious to
your reply. the subject of this tread DOES read: "what else is hiddin in MS
code?" afterall. Are we remotely on topic yet?
db
"Rob S. Wolfram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Michael Marion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Drestin Black wrote:
> >I've been watching this thread and I have a nit to pick..
> >> software. This person says: "And if you find a backdoor (definition not
yet
> >> agreed upon) then I'll send you your $5000 back and an additional
> >> 15,000" -- and I'm supposed to say, "Heck! Yea! here is my $5000 for
some
> >
> >Actually he said, "...for the amount of US$5000.00..." and then "...I'll
> >return you triple the amount." Which means that he'd return $15,000.
> >So if you did use an escrow account as you suggest, you'd put up $5k and
> >he'd put up $10k.. not $15k.
>
> Thanx, that's exactly what I ment. Drestin has the habit of reading
> things that have not been written, but when someone makes a statement on
> what he writes, he goes bezerk.
> I am honestly very serious about this, but things would have to be
> written down carefully, and of course Drestin would have to come out of
> the closet. But I think he's less interrested now that he's learned that
> he will need to search a lot more than just a "dubious string"...
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
> --
> Rob S. Wolfram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP key 0xD61A655D
> I wonder why half the world is crying, while the other half of the
> world is crying too...
> -- Janis Joplin
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: An Example of the Superiority of Windows vs Linux
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:14:04 GMT
Let us know when you have a mainframe in your living room.
Better let your wife know first though :)
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:07:16 -0500, "Bobby D. Bryant"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Tiberious wrote:
>
>> Linux on the other hand?
>>
>> 1. Doesn't support the scanner.
>> 2. Barely supports the printer.
>
>Let us know when Windows runs on everything from a 486 to a mainframe, and
>then we'll start making comparisons of which has the best "hardware support".
>
>Bobby Bryant
>Austin, Texas
>
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: What else is hidden in MS code???
Date: 13 Jun 2000 15:17:05 -0500
I'm sorry for the mistake.
The amounts are unimportant to me, he can set any he'd like. Although I
think it's a silly way to undertake this sort of thing. Proof stands alone.
Let him show me a backdoor in MS code and that's making a point. Let me show
him a backdoor in some open source software and that's making a point.
"Michael Marion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Drestin Black wrote:
>
> I've been watching this thread and I have a nit to pick..
>
> > software. This person says: "And if you find a backdoor (definition not
yet
> > agreed upon) then I'll send you your $5000 back and an additional
> > 15,000" -- and I'm supposed to say, "Heck! Yea! here is my $5000 for
some
>
> Actually he said, "...for the amount of US$5000.00..." and then "...I'll
> return you triple the amount." Which means that he'd return $15,000.
> So if you did use an escrow account as you suggest, you'd put up $5k and
> he'd put up $10k.. not $15k.
>
> Sorry, that's just been driving me nuts.
>
> --
> Mike Marion - Unix SysAdmin/Engineer, Qualcomm Inc.
> In 1984 mainstream users were choosing VMS over UNIX. Ten years later
> they are choosing Windows over UNIX. What part of that message aren't
> you
> getting? - Tom Payne
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: 13 Jun 2000 15:09:56 -0500
In article <m7p15.8124$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Daniel Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> TCP/IP is a connection protocol that delivers a byte stream.
>
>TCP is. IP delivers packets of various sizes.
>
>> The
>> display window size negotiation is part of the telnet protocol
>> and most (non-microsoft) versions allow on-the fly resizing
>> which most unix character-mode screen apps understand.
>
>Well, if you say so- this is news to me. However, this has nothing
>to do with vt100 emulation.
Right - it is in the telnet protocol. We are talking about
a telnet program here. Or what is supposed to be a telnet program.
>> For
>> example, if you drag a window larger while in a remote vi session,
>> it will redraw the screen with the new correct number of lines.
>
>That is possible, given a terminal protocol that supports it. I do
>not think it is dependant on *telnet* though; surely that will work
>on any terminal that support such stunds, including physical
>real chunks of hardware on serial ports.
It has nothing to do with terminals or terminal emulation.
>
>> It is not in Microsoft's interest to make it easy for you
>> to use unix systems, and their telnet certainly doesn't.
>
>Make Unix easy to use a very difficult task. :D
Unix has an elegant simplicity.
>MS's little telnet doesn't make any serious effort to do this;
>it's a telnet client with a rather second-rate terminal emulator.
>That's better than *just* being a telnet client, but not by much.
No, it is not a complete telnet implementation. Try running CRT
or netterm, or several others that get it right. It isn't just
the terminal emulation that makes the difference.
>> I suppose that you will continue to draw a different conclusion
>> from mine about the relationship between those two facts, but
>> it is not something they could just accidentally have overlooked.
>
>I think they set the bar low- *just* vt100 emulation and nothing
>better.
If it were just one bad program I might agree, but since the big
picture is that virtually *every* Microsoft program has annoying
flaws that make correct interoperation with any non-Microsoft
product difficult (FrontPage extensions, J++, compilers that
encourage use of MFC, Outlook's different treatment of LDAP, service
packs that break samba passwords, non-standard HTML additions and
on and on...), I can't believe it is just simple stupidity. All
of these cleverly make the competition look bad compared to using
an all-Microsoft solution when in fact it is the Microsoft code
that is incorrect, non-portable, non-standard and causes the problems
that you see.
>They probably thought this wasn't important to their real
>users, but I wonder if this will change. Unix seems to have
>become Windows NT/2000's main competitor.
Yes, it will be interesting to see if the pattern of subtle
breakage is repeated in the unix add-on pack for w2k. It
was a touch of brilliance to make the posix subsystem
for NT unusable for any normal networking programs so
people wouldn't be able to easily use it to write
portable code and escape their vendor-lock. Have they
done it again?
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Microsoft Stocks and your sanity...
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:21:30 GMT
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 03:08:05 GMT, Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I think it's funny to see all these investors flooding the Linux Advocacy.
Only stock I own is Pepsi Cola.
>It just proves a very strategic point that Linux is INDEED a threat to
>Windows...
Where is that?
I can't name one person that I have met that has actually kept Linux
on their system for any length of time after actually trying it.
>Why else would all these magnificent jerkwads be here on our advocacy
>posting if it weren't a threat.
Can't say. Why are YOU here?
>They BOAST linux is hard to install, Windows 98 runs faster, there's more
>hardware support for Windows, Windows has more applications, Windows
>runs better.
Windows does on all counts.
>When in reality it doesn't do any of these things.
ANY?
Please look up the word in the dictionary.
>And by posting to this group, they intend to SUPPORT their failing OS
>by posting weird untrue articles as if Linux Advocacy were hooked
>to QVC of the Home Shopping channel....
Does QVC run on Linux?
I'd like to see how many PC systems they would sell if they were
preloaded with Linsux.
My guess is none.
>The more they post, the closer to the end for Microsoft in their own words,
>emotions, and comments...
Who cares about Microsoft's legal battles, except you.
They did wrong they get punished. That's it.
>They are living in fear of the future right now. They know it doesn't look
>good for Microsoft.
Nobody really cares, except you of course.
Microsoft isn't going to disappear anytime soon.
>They are our barometer for Microsoft's death.
Looks like a low pressure system is headed your way.
>As time progresses on, it will get worse for the Linux Advocacy.
>The diareah of the Wintrolls will continue until the Federal Judge
>pulls the handle of that majic toilet and it will all be over.
Linux get's flushed on a daily basis. I see it everyday in my day gig.
>Don't forget to wipe.
>
Better use bleach because Linux is nasty....
>Charlie
>
>
>
>
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft W2K lack of goals.
Date: 13 Jun 2000 15:22:04 -0500
"Martijn Bruns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Agree to much of it. I've recently seen Win2k and it's really not
> bad, not bad at all. It reacts better to the user than WinNT, and
> both are of course better than Win98(SE), which is probably the
> worst OS ever made (reliability/usability) by anybody.
>
> I still like Linux more, though. It's not so much the overall
> quality of the OS, as well as the thought -behind- the OS that
> appeals to me. I like the fact that it's a large community
> effort, instead of being the child of an evil, criminal
> corporation. Because of this, development is going so fast you
> can hardly keep track of it. You should never get a Linux-version
> older than 2 months.
>
> But that's just me being idealistic. Maybe one day i'll learn,
> but i don't think i'll do that just yet. I like to dream, how
> about you?
What hardly anyone might believe is that I would change in an instant if
someone showed me something better. I like using W2K because it works so
well for me. It's the best tool for all the jobs I need to get done. How can
I complain? I'm not tied to it just because it's from MS (just like I'm not
opposed to <insert OS here> because it's NOT from MS). People think I "hate"
Linux because it's not an MS product. HA! What crap. I hate linux fanatics
far more than I have any feelings one way or another for Linux the product
(which has it's good points as well as bad, like anything else).
I like to dream... and sometimes I dream of a better OS -- but honestly,
MOST of the time I dream of my wife, my son, winning the World Shoot or
winning some huge lotto...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: G4 in space!
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:24:00 GMT
Great News!!!!!
See, they would have used Linsux, but in space the sickly looking
displays caused nausea.
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:16:59 +1200, Lawrence DčOliveiro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Just saw this item <http://www.spaceviews.com/2000/06/11a.html> about a
>company that wants to put the first satellite into orbit containing a
>Web server--and they're going to use a Mac G4!
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Mig Mig
Date: 13 Jun 2000 15:24:05 -0500
Robert:
Contact me via private e-mail and I can provide you with Migs real name as
well as home address and phone number.
db
"Full Name" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What Dave says below is correct.
>
> My name is Robert Peters. If you like you may e-mail me on
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out
> http://www.psychiatry.uq.edu.au/. In particular
> http://www.psychiatry.uq.edu.au/staff/genstaff.asp.
>
> I've known Dave for some time and we have worked together in the past.
> He uses my modem bank to dial in occasionally.
>
> When I found Dave was posting to these groups I followed suit (under
> the pseudonym "Full Name"). Neither of us really likes Linux. We
> often exchange e-mails about our negative experiences.
>
> As far as this moron Mig Mig is concerned, the guy has simply made an
> idiot of himself. I should have pulled him up earlier but I liked
> watching him make a fool of himself.
>
> For the record:
> www.psychiatry.uq.edu.au -> 130.102.95.2
> psychiatry.uq.edu.au -> 130.102.95.2
>
> If you examine the header of this post you will find the IP address to
> be 130.102.95.153.
>
> Dave's e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> QIMR's email server is somethimg like 152.98.?.?
> Dave's WWW page is at genepi.qimr.edu.au -> 152.98.160.29
>
> If you examine the header for the post below you will see Dave has
> used a dial-in he set up for himself recently. Both QIMR and the
> Psychiatry Department use bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au as a news server. Not
> much we can do about that.
>
> Note that all my opinions are my own and do not in any way reflect the
> opinions of my employer.
>
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:08:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Smyth)
> wrote:
>
> >I've just discovered "Mig Mig" has splashed my name all over this
> >newsgroup. He has my e-mail address but did not take the time to send
> >me an e-mail to let me know he was attributing all sorts of things to
> >me. But I generally discard e-mails from newsgroups so it may be
> >possible he e-mailed me and I deleted it without reading. I would
> >have e-mailed him this message but he uses the address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> >
> >For those of you who have called me a liar perhaps you may like to
> >reconsider.
> >
> >For those of you who believe I am a student (as indicated by "Mig
> >Mig") you may like to check
> >http://genepi.qimr.edu.au/general/about.html. Toward the bottom of
> >the page will be my contact details. This is where I work. I haven't
> >been a student for some time.
> >
> >As for Mr "Full Name" thanks for the e-mail. However, I think it
> >might be time for you to stop tormenting these people. Because of the
> >"Mig Mig" guy it seems to have gotten out of hand. Its not much fun
> >to be called a liar by someone you have never met just because you and
> >I have used the same modem bank (along with about 200 other people).
> >
> >As for "Mig Mig", I've read some of your posts and all I can say is
> >that you are a very foolish. They are recorded on dejanews and I'll
> >be sending copies of them along with my complaints to
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll probably will just switch to another
> >ISP. Frankly I don't care.
> >
> >
> >David Smyth
> >IT Support
> >Queensland Institute of Medical Research
> >
>
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