Linux-Advocacy Digest #354, Volume #27 Mon, 26 Jun 00 18:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Do you people really think that GNU/Linux is a great OS? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh ("Marcus Turner")
Re: Do you people really think that GNU/Linux is a great OS? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Why X is better than Terminal Server (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Do not like Windows but ... (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Do not like Windows but ... (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Why X is better than Terminal Server
Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was: Microsoft
Ruling Too Harsh (Loren Petrich)
Re: Why Linux should be #1 choice for students!
Re: Claims of Windows supporting old applications are reflecting reality or fantasy?
(Mathias Grimmberger)
Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was: Microsoft
Ruling Too Harsh (Loren Petrich)
Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was: Microsoft
Ruling Too Harsh (Loren Petrich)
Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Loren Petrich)
Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: If Linux is desktop ready ... ("Robert L.")
Re: OS's ... ("TimL")
Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do you people really think that GNU/Linux is a great OS?
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:33:40 -0400
Cihl wrote:
>
> Jeff Szarka wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 20:53:23 GMT, Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >You can split the main window in half, open an FTP-session in the
> > >first half and your home-dir in the other. Now you can browse the
> > >FTP-site and drag files over to your computer. Really, REALLY cool!
> > >
> >
> > Windows FTP clients have been doing this for.... many, many, many
> > years. Windows 2k does it as well.
>
> And so have Unix/Linux FTP-clients, for about as long as the GUI's
> exist. Only now you can do exactly the same in the standard browser.
> All standard-browser FTP-clients i have seen so earlier, like in
> Netscape and Internet Explorer are not sufficient. You don't have
> enough control over anything, like login-settings, custom commands,
> etc.
> Konqueror gives you all the control of a classic FTP-client.
>
> Could you please stop being so nasty? What has the Linux community
> done to Windows to make you people so nasty?
Disturbed their smug feelings of superiority by pointing out
that M$ products suck.
>
> --
> ¨I live!¨
> ¨I hunger!¨
> ¨Run, coward!¨
> -- The Sinistar
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: "Marcus Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:36:56 GMT
"Loren Petrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ivtpa$7jf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <8ivsc1$qs4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Henry Blaskowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In talk.politics.libertarian Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 23 Jun 2000 03:01:55 GMT, Henry Blaskowski wrote:
>
> >> Whether or not something is a monopoly is not determined by the number
> >> of competitors, so in this instance you and the person you are replying
to
> >> are both wrong.
> >If is not about the number of competitors, then the term is meaningless,
> >and we may as well just call it "punishing success", because that's what
> >it really is.
>
> Punishing success is done all the time when the success is in
> murder, theft, and similar activities.
So Loren, are you making a comparison? Microsoft marketing is equal to
Murder, Theft and similar activities."
Is this similar to the comparison you made a few weeks ago, uh what was it??
Armed Assault to Microsoft Windows OEM agreements??
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do you people really think that GNU/Linux is a great OS?
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:35:07 -0400
Jeff Szarka wrote:
>
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 06:17:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>
> >>
> >>How many times have you been mail bombed by Windows advocates? Thought
> >>so. I guess my arguments were too good... I'm not exactly sure what
> >>other group would send me 300-500 messages saying "Windows sucks" I've
> >
> > What? Your "ease of use interfaces" can't deal with a little spam?
>
> Did you guys all have a secret meeting and decide to prove me right as
> many times as possible this week? Seriously... it's like every post
> gets a response like this. INSTANT validation.
>
> For your information... I followed these steps...
>
> 1) Sort by sender
> 2) Click first message... click last message (while holding down
> shift)
> 3) Press delete
> 4) Set rule to do this automatically for this sender in the future.
>
> Just out of curiosity... how would one do this with pine?
Put the user's address in a killfilem, and be done with it.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
Subject: Re: Why X is better than Terminal Server
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: 26 Jun 2000 08:07:38 GMT
bobh{at}haucks{dot}org (Bob Hauck) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>The previous poster did qualify with "limits properly set". Try
>"ulimit -u 32" first and see what happens. On this machine (a P-120
>laptop with 48 MB), the fork program causes the system to slow down a
>bit but I can easily get in to kill it with "killall".
That works in this synthesized cause, but my point was that any OS can be
brought down by a badly behaved app. And you can't always predict how a
badly behaved app will act.
--
============
Pete Goodwin
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do not like Windows but ...
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:37:41 -0400
Pedro Iglesias wrote:
>
> > Word is very expenisive for "light Work".
>
> I do not smoke, do not drink, I save a lot of money that I can
> spend as I prefer.
I'd prefer to spend it on airline tickets and overseas hotels.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do not like Windows but ...
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:38:52 -0400
Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > Pedro Iglesias wrote:
> > >
> > > nowadays :
> > >
> > > winamp is better than xmms or whatever on Linux
> > > word is better than startoffice or whatever on Linux (wordperfect,
> > > abiword, ...)
> >
> > Nobody in their right mind would write a book in Word.
> >
>
> I remember when I started writing a book under word. Above about 50
> pages it got really *interesting*. I finally bought one of those
> *Secrets of* books and it said that according to Microsoft you should
> never have a document exceed 20 pages. Over 20 pages you were supposed
> to break the document up and then use some sort of jury-rigged
> hyperlinking that is supposed to seperate *chapters* (I have chapters
> way over 20 pages) into seperate documents but still allow it to print
> out all together as one. This was very close to the time I gave up on
> Windows for my main computing needs.
in comparison to that, nroff + vi rules.
>
> Nathaniel Jay Lee
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Why X is better than Terminal Server
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:39:01 GMT
On 26 Jun 2000 08:07:38 GMT, Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>bobh{at}haucks{dot}org (Bob Hauck) wrote in
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>The previous poster did qualify with "limits properly set". Try
>>"ulimit -u 32" first and see what happens. On this machine (a P-120
>>laptop with 48 MB), the fork program causes the system to slow down a
>>bit but I can easily get in to kill it with "killall".
>
>That works in this synthesized cause, but my point was that any OS can be
>brought down by a badly behaved app. And you can't always predict how a
>badly behaved app will act.
>
Name an app that will bring down a properly set up VMS system.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:
Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: 26 Jun 2000 21:41:13 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Back in the 1970's, one of their philosophical leaders (can't remember
>> >who) said, "We will feign weakness at the time of our greatest
>> >strength).
>Actually, I first learned about it in a book written by a Soviet
>colonel who defected.
However, if that strategy is being practiced, it has gotten *way*
out of hand. Scott Erb knows plenty about the xUSSR, and he's seen no
sign of such grandiose schemes. He notes that the bureaucracy under
Gorbachev had been divided on what to do about Germany. Which, given what
the USSR had suffered from Germany 50 years ago, was a serious concern.
If one wants to feign weakness, one has to do so in a way that
keeps one's strength in reserve. But the xUSSR has lost *much* of that
reserve strength.
For example, Germany is GONE, G-O-N-E, GONE from Russia's
influence, and the reunited Germany is committed to continued NATO
membership.
From a Russian point of view, imagine the other way around. It's
still the Cold War and West Germany gets annexed by East Germany and joins
the Warsaw Pact.
So I wonder when Russian demagogues will start making an issue
out of "who lost Germany?"
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Why Linux should be #1 choice for students!
Date: 26 Jun 2000 17:48:37 -0400
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:50:06 +0100, mark
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pete Goodwin wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bracy) wrote in <EEM_4.4560$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>>Actually, after reading your posts, I think you'd be better off with
>>>WordPad.
>>
>>It's a better editor than... oh my gosh, what _do_ you write
>>LaTeX with? Go on, tell me... VI!!!!!
*gasp* What? You don't edit with vi?
>>
>>Pete
>
>I find vi excellent. Mine's not in caps, though - maybe that's not
>significant in NT - can NT tell the difference?
Of course not. It would break compatibility with Windows programs
that assume they're running under DOS.
NT still supports the "drive letters" from DOS too.
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
From: Mathias Grimmberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Claims of Windows supporting old applications are reflecting reality or
fantasy?
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:58:01 GMT
John Wiltshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:45:02 GMT, Mathias Grimmberger
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[M-x giant-snip]
> >> Some things like that annoy me so I just find other ways around, like
> >> using the command prompt or scripting.
> >
> >Fear the day MS decides to revive MS Bob and make it the UI of their
> >OSs. There will be no way to get a command prompt or script anything.
> >:-(
> >
> >Maybe Apple will beat MS to it, in the name of ease of use.
>
> I think the whole WSH thing is the MS answer to a command shell. On a
Hmm, hmm. Wsh still can't hold a candle to a Perl port. Or Cygwin. Wsh
is probably the right thing to use for working with COM objects.
> side note, found out how to run commands in subshells using cmd.exe,
> and that parenthesis could be to mark blocks covering more that one
> line. Am totally amazed at the complete lack of documentation for
> that very useful feature. Suddenly my scripts look a whole lot less
> complicated. :-)
Oh yes, I can relate to that. Doing a lot of rather arcane makefile
stuff I happened to discover the joys of cmd.exe too - and the bugs in
GNU make for Win32. There is more undocumented stuff in cmd.exe, one can
AFAIK redirect stdout/stderr separately/at all but it isn't mentioned
anywhere ("dir foo.bar 1>NUL 2>NUL", looks vaguely Unixy).
Sometimes I wonder what stuff the people at MS smoke, I mean they seem
to put everything into the FOR statement, even what backticks do in a
Unix shell. And they can't be bothered to update the help file on it or
even outright lie in it - the german version explicitly says that you
can't redirect error messages.
But then I remember command.com and suddenly cmd.exe does look really
good... :-)
MGri
--
Mathias Grimmberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Eat flaming death, evil Micro$oft mongrels!
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:52:37 -0400
Henry Blaskowski wrote:
>
> In talk.politics.libertarian Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> So do you think that business in the US should just be shut down,
> >> destroying the economy? Because that is the result of a fair
> >> implementation of the policy that is being used to harass MS.
>
> > By your logic, the Bootlegging gangs should have been allowed to
> > continuing their campaign of racketeering unchecked.
>
> Sigh.... bad analogies are the last refuge of a dying argument.
> Here we again have the comparison that a voluntary consensual informed
> agreement is the same as armed gangs defending their turf through
> unilateral violence. Gee, it's almost the same, but sorry, analogies
> don't stretch that far, and your example is silly.
Why don't you just admit that you really don't have a clue about
the "behind closed doors" behavior of Microsoft, and quit embarrassing
yourself.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:53:20 -0400
MK wrote:
>
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:03:12 -0400, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > I will concede that many other large corporations in the U.S. as well
> >> > as the government itself practice fraud with impunity; however, the
> >> > wrongful actions of one entity do not justify those of another.
> >>
> >> So do you think that business in the US should just be shut down,
> >> destroying the economy? Because that is the result of a fair
> >> implementation of the policy that is being used to harass MS.
> >
> >By your logic, the Bootlegging gangs should have been allowed to
> >continuing their campaign of racketeering unchecked.
>
> Last time I checked, gangs were using guns, not signing exclusive
> "per bottle" contracts. ;-)
When you threaten a man with destruction of his business if he
doesn't follow YOUR rules, then guns are not necessary.
>
> MK
>
> ---
>
> Equality requires slavery.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:
Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: 26 Jun 2000 21:50:36 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Loren Petrich wrote:
>> * The USSR's Eastern-European empire: GONE
>> * East Germany: annexed by West Germany
>United States and most of NATO: Disarming.
>(russia....building several THOUSAND T-90 tanks, and have the crews
>trained to operate them)
How is that different from any other military procurement?
>> * The republics of the USSR: separate nations
>I.e. more votes in the U.N.
ROTFL. Russia may be able to bully the Baltic States, but the
Ukraine and Belarus are much harder nuts to crack.
>> * Chechnya: hardly worth calling a triumph
>Live-fire exercises to update their land-warfare doctrine.
>First draft: Totally fucked up
>Second draft: Good enough for their purposes.
But look at what kind of enemy they had.
>> * The Party: now has competition
>Most of which are false fronts, taking direction from the Communist
>Party itself; and a few whacked out fringe groups like the Fascists.
LOL. Consider that Putin ordered the head of the NTV TV network
arrested recently, and consider what a big issue it has become.
This is unprecedented in Russia's history. In the Brezhnev years,
he would have mysteriously "retired" or gotten "transferred". In the
Stalin years, he would have been made to confess to having plotted to
spread imperialist propaganda, and would likely not have lived much
longer after that.
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:
Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: 26 Jun 2000 21:51:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Which is why Capitalism rules.
And why Mr. Kulkis's military service had been in Mercenaries, Inc.
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: 26 Jun 2000 21:54:10 GMT
In article <__O55.134$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marcus Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Loren Petrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:8ivufm$5ar$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> ...Straw position. If one deals with others, one has to respect
>> their interest, and not try to force awkward choices on them.
>Uh, why? Where did that come from?
Common decency.
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:00:48 -0400
Henry Blaskowski wrote:
>
> In talk.politics.libertarian Nathaniel Jay Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Again, even if we choose to purchase a PC with something other than MS,
> > we still have to pay for the MS product. How is this "right"? Why does
> > MS have the right to charge me for something I don't want to use?
>
> It's not "right", it's false. I have a friend who bought a Mac,
> and he didn't have to pay for Windows. When I bought my PC, I
> didn't pay for any MS products, and it is even easier today to
> do the same.
4 years ago, this was an absolute impossibility.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: "Robert L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: If Linux is desktop ready ...
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:02:57 GMT
"Pedro Iglesias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit dans le message news:
KtL55.238$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ... then tell me why the Hell a home user should to care about compiling
> sources ? If he/she gets binaries, what the Hell open source is useful to
?
> If he/she learns the ./configure;make;make install procedure, why the Hell
> should he/she know that awk 1.0.4 prevents gtk from compiling correctly ?
I'm an home user. My second computer is a Linux box, this way, i can share
internet, share file etc...
1 month ago, i buy an ethernet card, 100 mbps. Linux was an 8Meg ram system,
i have start 3 server http/web/napster . The card was detected but the
driver doesn't want to go up.
The error was "kernel can't allocate a 64k recieving ring" . I open the file
rtl8139.c and read it. I find a part that was saying something like
/* recieve ring, 1=16K 2=32K 3=64K */
#define RR 3
( i don't remember exactly the define name )
i simply replace the 3 by 2. Recompiled the source and it was running.
Latter, i got 8 more meg. I replace with the old driver ( with the 64K
recieve ring ) and it's working. No more trouble with Linux.
My family members ( my 2 parent, my sister and my niece ) are able to play
some game on my Linux. ( shi-sen, mahjongg, xtetris, asteroid etc.. ). I
simply show them how it work, and they are happy to be on this computer.
My niece is learning basic and tcl-tk.
### here what to do with every tar.gz
tar zxvf nameofprog.tar.gz
cd nameofprog
less README
Everything is clear in the README file.
If they can't even read the README file, then how can they use windows?
In windows there's some README file ( it's called readme.txt or readme.doc )
I never used Mac, but there's certainly some readme too.
AND finaly, why do you get the source if you just want binary?
A lot of program have the source already compiled. Just read a little more
the web page of the owner of the program and you certainly be able to get
one. If there's no compile program, just send an e-mail and ask the maker to
compile it and send it.
PS. I not fully billingual, i certainly make some mistake.
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From: "TimL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OS's ...
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:03:30 GMT
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeff
Szarka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:07:15 -0400, name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> When Word won Wordperfect, it was not the dominant one, so it won
>>> 'cause it was better. Besides, it mind me bollocks if Microsoft split
>>> or not, Windows will be the dominant OS for a while. Tell me a company
>>> that does not try to beat the rivals, come on.
>>>
>>
>>Oh, you're a really bright one aren't you. Because Word wasn't dominant,
>>it is now because it was better. You might want to stop posting here
>>until you gain some semblance of intelligence. Unless you like being
>>called a complete moron or an idiot.
>
> Linux advocacy...
>
>
Not!
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.politics.economics
Subject: Re: Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:06:06 -0400
Leslie Mikesell wrote:
>
> In article <8j0sp7$1jti$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Henry Blaskowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In talk.politics.libertarian Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>Because you still have the same choices you did as
> >>>if MS didn't exist: you can buy a Mac, you can search out a
> >>>dealer that will sell you a machine with an unformatted drive,
> >>>you can buy a Sun workstation, or you can go without a computer.
> >
> >> Why should you have to 'search out' a low volume dealer to
> >> avoid paying for a software bundle?
> >
> >Are you going to claim that there is no other product that has a
> >main product sold in the chains, and competitors sold in out of
> >the way places? Shall they be prosecuted, too?
>
> Yes, if there are other products using monopoly force to demand
> bundling with outher products whether it is wanted or not, of
> course they should be prosecuted.
IBM tried bundling strategies in the 1950's - 60's, and were
treated the same way...
The difference is, IBM was WISE enough to comply with their oversight
agreements with the DOJ, whereas Gates is an arrogant asshole who
thought
he could thumb his nose at the courts.
We'll see what tune he plays this time next year.
heh heh heh.
>
> Les Mikesell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
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