Linux-Advocacy Digest #368, Volume #27 Tue, 27 Jun 00 17:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Mac OS X gonna have a CLI! ("Alistair Mann")
Re: slashdot (Mikey)
Re: Do not like Windows but ... (Paul Oliver)
Re: I didn't know IIS ran on FreeBSD? (Mig Mig)
where to download C# compiler for Linux? (roger@news)
Re: High School is out...here come the trolls...who can't accept the future. (Mig
Mig)
Linux is junk ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: where to download C# compiler for Linux? (Mig Mig)
Re: Mac OS X gonna have a CLI! (abraxas)
Re: Mac OS X gonna have a CLI! (abraxas)
Re: Linux is junk (abraxas)
Re: Mac OS X gonna have a CLI! ("Alistair Mann")
Unix/linux and DNA ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is junk ("Alistair Mann")
Re: Linux is junk ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: I didn't know IIS ran on FreeBSD? (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Linux is junk (Brian Langenberger)
Re: Why X is better than Terminal Server (Darren Winsper)
Re: Mac OS X gonna have a CLI! (Woofbert)
Re: Mac OS X gonna have a CLI! (Woofbert)
Microsoft .NET: A Platform for the Next Generation Internet (Tim Palmer)
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From: "Alistair Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mac OS X gonna have a CLI!
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:11:57 +0100
Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Check this out, Mac gonna have a command line interface!
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2593935,00.html
>
> The story says they're going to hide it deep so noone but a power user
> can find it. Guess they finally figured out that you can't provide a
> button for everything.
There is a certain irony to this. When Windows95 came out, Macheads did
entreat us "Windows is now where the Mac was ten years ago". I guess the
announcement above means MacOS is now where Windows was five years ago...
--
Alistair Mann
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From: Mikey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: slashdot
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:11:14 +0000
Thus Sprake TimL:
> Hey SLASHDOT, Jeff Szarska says there's no reason for you guys to be down
> Sunday night! He wants his money back!!!
Yea Godz! That must mean that /. is now charging a troll tax. :)
--
Since-beer-leekz,
Mikey
Best comment in a kernel /*Drunk...fix later*/
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:03:57 -0500
From: Paul Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do not like Windows but ...
> Actually, that's about the time I discovered LyX and Latex. Thus, my
> conversion was complete. LyX just rules if you want to write a book
> without thinking too hard on the formatting.
Yes, KLyX (what I use) blew all my microsoft friends' minds away. Word
crashed several times during an all-nighter when writing our final project
report for our senior design course. Everyone was happy with Microsoft,
because we lost 50 pages of formatting. In addition, our "secretary" spent
two hours generating a table of contents in Word. This is very funny if
you use LaTeX, TeX, or LyX: it's a one-line command to do this, and it
looks much better than what Word can accomplish.
MicroShaft lemmings: open your mind! It'll only help you. 95% of Linux
users know more about Windows than 95% of Windows users. And yet they use
Linux . . . hmmmm, that's telltale, isn't it?
Paul
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From: Mig Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I didn't know IIS ran on FreeBSD?
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:47:18 +0200
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> From Netcraft today:
>
> www.microsoft.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on FreeBSD
It is not.. its running on W2K according to Netcraft
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From: roger@news
Subject: where to download C# compiler for Linux?
Date: 27 Jun 2000 11:57:36 -0700
any one knows where I can download C# for Linux?
thanks.
/roger
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From: Mig Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: High School is out...here come the trolls...who can't accept the future.
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:53:34 +0200
Davorin Mestric wrote:
>
> the 4% desktop usage. this is more like 0.3%.
Nahh..You know that is incorrect Davorin. Take a look at at the NT advocacy
group... its full of Linux talk. Linux seems to be the only competitor
Windows has and that makes me think why there isnt more focus on the MAC
especially MAC OS X.. i think MAC OS X could be a Windows killer on Intel
platform
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux is junk
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:55:38 GMT
Linux is a stinkin', steamin' pile of shit as far as I am concerned.
I wasted $40 on Corel Office and wish I could get my hard earned money
back!
I also wasted another $60 on Partition Magic, like Corel suggested.
First off the piece of shit destroyed my hard drive and erased 2 years
worth
of data I had saved. Lucky for me I have a backup on CD but it is
a couple of days old.
The install kept failing over and over again dying on my SCSI controller
but finally, and mysteriously it worked despite my not changing
anything.
My sound card didn't work.
My video card ran slow as a snail.
My network card didn't work.
My printer didn't work
My scanner didn't work.
My modem worked but kept disconnecting.Something about a PPP demon
dying?
All of these devices worked out right away with Windows 98 SE and
also with Win2k.
Linux has been around longer than Win2k, so why the shitty hardware
support?
Shitpile Linux didn't even recognize my USB ports.
Is this Linux stuff some kind of a joke or something? I'd like to be let
in on the joke please because I have lost data and wasted the better
part
of the weekend trying to make this smelly piece of trash work.
I played around with the various applications included with Corel and
quite frankly, it looks like Linux is some 1980's throw back. Reminds
me of Pong and Visicalc.
I can see no way in hell that this piece of sewerage can be given to
people who are happily running Windows.
No way.
Linux just plain stinks.
It is like a full lower bowel that needs to be purged.
The only plus i got from my short lived experience with Linux is that
I will surely let all my enemies know about it so they can have their
systems destroyed like I have.
How you tell it is stable?
First you have to get it running.
Sorry, I drained one toner cartridge printing out how to papers.
Not to mention when the dam printer went beserk trying to print using
Lie-nux and it spit out page after page with one ascee charactor on
each and no means other than shutting it off to stop it.
Who writes these things anyway? They seem to have a language all their
own and it is not english, french
or german which I am fluent in.
Never even looked at a readme for windows.
Windows has no equal...At least not yet....
Linux is a bomb..........
Jerry Butler
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From: Mig Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where to download C# compiler for Linux?
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:10:26 +0200
roger@news wrote:
> any one knows where I can download C# for Linux?
> thanks.
> /roger
>
Same place where you can download it for Windows :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas)
Subject: Re: Mac OS X gonna have a CLI!
Date: 27 Jun 2000 20:09:51 GMT
Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Check this out, Mac gonna have a command line interface!
>
Congradulations, steve, you have just discovered what the rest
of us have known for three years. When BSD comes to Mac, Mac gets
command line.
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2593935,00.html
>
> The story says they're going to hide it deep so noone but a power user
> can find it. Guess they finally figured out that you can't provide a
> button for everything.
>
Yeah, theyre gonna bury it right under the 'terminal' icon on the
desktop. Thats real deep.
> Ain't this gonna piss off the GUI heads.
>
No. You dont understand mac people.
=====yttrx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas)
Subject: Re: Mac OS X gonna have a CLI!
Date: 27 Jun 2000 20:10:43 GMT
Alistair Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Check this out, Mac gonna have a command line interface!
>>
>> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2593935,00.html
>>
>> The story says they're going to hide it deep so noone but a power user
>> can find it. Guess they finally figured out that you can't provide a
>> button for everything.
>
> There is a certain irony to this. When Windows95 came out, Macheads did
> entreat us "Windows is now where the Mac was ten years ago". I guess the
> announcement above means MacOS is now where Windows was five years ago...
Except that while windows had a barely functional dos command line five
years ago, Mac will have a fully functional BSD command line tomorrow.
=====yttrx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas)
Subject: Re: Linux is junk
Date: 27 Jun 2000 20:12:18 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*snip*
Jerry, the reason that you are having so many problems with
linux is because you're a fucking retard. Any five year old can
understand how to make linux work; why cant you?
=====yttrx
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From: "Alistair Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mac OS X gonna have a CLI!
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:19:52 +0100
abraxas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8jb1o3$2qmm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Alistair Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Check this out, Mac gonna have a command line interface!
> >>
> >> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2593935,00.html
> >>
> >> The story says they're going to hide it deep so noone but a power user
> >> can find it. Guess they finally figured out that you can't provide a
> >> button for everything.
> >
> > There is a certain irony to this. When Windows95 came out, Macheads did
> > entreat us "Windows is now where the Mac was ten years ago". I guess the
> > announcement above means MacOS is now where Windows was five years
ago...
>
> Except that while windows had a barely functional dos command line five
> years ago, Mac will have a fully functional BSD command line tomorrow.
Now /thats/ progress!
--
Alistair Mann
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Unix/linux and DNA
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:12:05 GMT
Cool, Lunux and Unix working together to deliver better living though
chemistry!
http://www.vnunet.com/News/1104919
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Alistair Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is junk
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:24:58 +0100
abraxas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8jb1r2$2qmm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> *snip*
>
> Jerry, the reason that you are having so many problems with
> linux is because you're a fucking retard. Any five year old can
> understand how to make linux work; why cant you?
Leave off him! It aint easy reading all those HOWTOs when the customer wants
another fries and a coke with his order.
--
Alistair Mann
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux is junk
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:31:07 GMT
If you're open to actual debate you should realize that you fell into
the trap many Win95 converts fell into. Corel's distro is far lacking
in the functionality of the more mature distros. I bought it and
Mandrake 7 from CheapBytes. I got it to load but never got my sound
card to work. And the ppp setup is a little different from Windows so
once I figured out what the problem was it worked. But with Mandrake, I
was able to configure all my hardware good and have migrated all my old
WIn95 apps over. Downloaded WP8 runs great even though I keep Corel WP
Office on my Windows partition. But I have heard from many people that
Partition magic is a pain unless you are experienced with working with
partitions. A little patience (and $2 to cheapbytes for Mandrake cd)
and you can have a fully functional Linux system. The Corel Linux,
well, you got yourself a nice coaster.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Subject: Re: I didn't know IIS ran on FreeBSD?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:52:43 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mig Mig) wrote in <8jb08g$amt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Pete Goodwin wrote:
>> From Netcraft today:
>>
>> www.microsoft.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on FreeBSD
>
>It is not.. its running on W2K according to Netcraft
Yes I know, that's what Netcraft said when I looked yesterday. However,
when I tried it today it said 'FreeBSD'. Most amusing!
Pete
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From: Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is junk
Date: 27 Jun 2000 20:53:36 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<crap snipped>
Someone could make a perfect template for these sorts of fake
"complaints" about Linux. Using shell variables, it would look like:
Linux is $DEROGATORY_TERM
I wasted $DOLLAR_AMOUNT on $LINUX_DISTRIBUTION and feel totally cheated.
Linux destroyed $SOMETHING_VALUABLE because of $NON_WINDOWS_TRAIT
My $PERIPHERAL1 didn't work.
My $PERIPHERAL2 didn't work.
My $PERIPHERAL3 didn't work.
Which makes Linux $DEROGATORY_TERM
Oh, and Linux looks like $ARCHAIC_SYSTEM because it is not Windows
You are all $SYNONYM_FOR_FOOL because you like Linux.
Linux is $DEROGATORY_TERM
So, to borrow from the ThinkGeek sticker:
"Go away for I have replaced you with a very small shell script."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Subject: Re: Why X is better than Terminal Server
Date: 27 Jun 2000 20:54:09 GMT
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:16:08 GMT, Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> B*}...<rabid loony mode cancel>, er, a limit of 10 seems not
> unreasonable. But what about daemons like httpd - they would presumably
> need a much higher limit...
IIRC you can set limits on a per user basis, so it shouldn't be a
problem.
--
Darren Winsper (El Capitano) - ICQ #8899775
Stellar Legacy project member - http://www.stellarlegacy.tsx.org
DVD boycotts. Are you doing your bit?
This message was typed before a live studio audience.
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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mac OS X gonna have a CLI!
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:00:00 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Jones
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Check this out, Mac gonna have a command line interface!
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2593935,00.html
>
> The story says they're going to hide it deep so noone but a power user
> can find it. Guess they finally figured out that you can't provide a
> button for everything.
>
> Ain't this gonna piss off the GUI heads.
No, this isn't going to piss them off... Those who want to use a GUI can
use a GUI. Those who want to use a CLI can use a CLI. This is, in
essence, what the Mac is supposed to be about: letting people work in
their own most comfortable style, instead of imposing some arbitrary
style on them.
So, do you *like* to piss off the GUI heads?
--
Woofbert <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>, Datadroid, Infernosoft
Putting the No in Innovation. www.infernosoft.com/woofbert/index.html
Infernosoft: Putting the No in Innovation. http://www.infernosoft.com
"It doesn't matter what I think." -- "Dr." Laura
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From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mac OS X gonna have a CLI!
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:00:52 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Alistair Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Check this out, Mac gonna have a command line interface!
> >
> > http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2593935,00.html
> >
> > The story says they're going to hide it deep so noone but a power user
> > can find it. Guess they finally figured out that you can't provide a
> > button for everything.
>
> There is a certain irony to this. When Windows95 came out, Macheads did
> entreat us "Windows is now where the Mac was ten years ago". I guess the
> announcement above means MacOS is now where Windows was five years ago...
Cool. I didn't know that you could drag & drop stuff from a DOS window
to applications.
--
Woofbert <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>, Datadroid, Infernosoft
Putting the No in Innovation. www.infernosoft.com/woofbert/index.html
Infernosoft: Putting the No in Innovation. http://www.infernosoft.com
"It doesn't matter what I think." -- "Dr." Laura
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From: Tim Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Microsoft .NET: A Platform for the Next Generation Internet
Date: 27 Jun 2000 17:03:09 -0500
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2000/jun00/06-22stevebf2k.asp
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