Linux-Advocacy Digest #46, Volume #28 Fri, 28 Jul 00 00:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Yeah! Bring down da' man! ("Colin R. Day")
Re: Why use Linux? (Arthur Frain)
Re: Good Free VCD/DVD Player & Questions about the "mount /cdrom" ("Colin R. Day")
Re: No wonder Hackers love Linux ("Quantum Leaper")
Re: Linux can save you money on electricity! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why is "ease of use" a dirty concept? (Charles M)
Re: Does VB and SQL work under linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why is "ease of use" a dirty concept? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Voice mail system ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: God damm Microsoft ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: God damm Microsoft (Jerry McBride)
Re: Gnome or KDE (Jimmy Navarro)
Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was- Another one of
Lenin's Useful Idiots denies reality (Loren Petrich)
Re: Does VB and SQL work under linux? (mlw)
Re: No wonder Hackers love Linux
Re: Will Linux Dominate the Desktop Future? ("Keith T. Williams")
Re: Just curious, how do I do this in Windows? ("Spud")
Re: Hardware: ideal budget Linux box? (Re: I'm Ready! I'm ready! I'm (Bloody
Viking)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Karel Jansens)
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Yeah! Bring down da' man!
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:59:32 -0400
John Jensen wrote:
> Colin R. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> : John Jensen wrote:
>
> : > I've been in the situation where I have two (or more) apps referencing the
> : > same library. I'd like to upgrade one of my apps, which requires a
> : > library update. If all of my apps have been upgraded to match the new
> : > library it isn't a problem. I can just upgrade them all at once. If, for
> : > some reason, an application has not been updated I have three choices:
> : > [...]
>
> : Why not rpm -i --replacefiles? It will uninstall the the files of the
> : previous package that have the same name as the files of the
> : newer versions, but it will leave other files of older package alone.
> : Of course, this leaves multiple versions of the same library, but
> : given today's hard drives, that's preferable to *.so hell.
>
> I've never tried 'replacefiles', I guess I thought it might allow
> conflicts to be created. I don't know how often that would happen,
> perhaps only when confilicts arise from non-library files?
Let's say that you are upgrading from foo 1.0 to foo 1.1. You want
the execuatable foo in foo 1.1 to replace the current version, but
you need libfoo.so.1.0 for another program. You type
rpm -i --replacefiles foo-1.1-i386.rpm
This installs foo 1.1, replacing those files from foo 1.0 that
have the same name as files from foo 1.1; however
libfoo.so.1.0 has a different name from libfoo.so.1.1,
so it's preserved.
As for conflicts, if you don't use the --nodeps or
--force options in rpm, and there are conflicts, then
rpm will not install the package. If you are cautious,
you can use the --test option (goes through the
motions but does not install), as well as -v (verbose).
>
>
> If a complete solution is possible at the package management level, I
> certainly won't be dissapointed. On the other hand, I don't think we are
> at the point where we can really call this problem solved. My definition
> of a complete solution would be one in which an end-user could keep his
> Linux system up-to-date over the course of two or three years ... simply
> by clicking the 'update' button.
Don't know about rpm, but dpkg (Debian packager) has apt-get, which
does this.
Colin Day
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From: Arthur Frain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why use Linux?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:47:15 -0700
(Sorry to post this reply at this point in the
thread, but for some reason, Spud's posts
don't always show up my regular newsfeed,
so I had to cut and paste this over from
someplace else.)
[snips]
Spud wrote:
>> So tell me:
>> 1. What specifically is this dross?
>> 2. How do I locate it and identify it?
>> 3. How do I remove it?
> I've already explained that.
Ah, a cop out answer. And a lie besides.
Please point me to your explanation. The
fact is, you don't have any answers to
those questions because your 'dross' is
completely imaginary.
If you really did know anything about
Win98SE and PnP, you know that:
a. "Dross' as you call it isn't really possible,
and
b. If it was, PnP should be capable of cleaning
it up.
I'm not surprised - you've been bullshitting
all along, and now everybody knows it.
>> It must be really easy, because this is
>> an "ease of use" OS - should be something
>> the average user could do, but maybe
>> it requires superior knowledge like yours.
> Do try to understand this point, even though you seem proof against
> it: Win98 as shipped by MS *does not have this problem*. Win98 as
> shipped by HP *does*. Therefore something differs in what you get from
> HP and what you get from MS; the differences is HP's idea of being
> "helpful".
> Talk to them; they're the ones who did it to you.
More bullshit - the HP setup was correct.
You just can't admit Win98SE is crap, even
though most of the world is well aware of
that.
> Don't need your $5.
And it would be certainly much more than you're
worth.
I don't have much time for fools and liars,
and Spud is both.
Arthur
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Good Free VCD/DVD Player & Questions about the "mount /cdrom"
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:16:35 -0400
Pig wrote:
> Could anyone suggest me a good and free vcd/dvd player?
>
> I am now using the "mpegtv" to play a vcd.
> Once I mount the cdrom, the "/cdrom" must be belongs to the "root"
You have to mount video CD's? That's odd, you don't have
to mount audio CD's.
What file system does a Video CD have?
>
>
> Q: Is it normal?
>
> As the software need to do streaming of the my cdrom,
> I can only play the vcd by "root".
>
> Pls. Help!!!!
Colin Day
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From: "Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: No wonder Hackers love Linux
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:18:59 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8loabf$moa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Quantum Leaper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:RqNf5.82535$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:8lnjae$ngh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:22:30 -0700, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Geek is American slang which means: 1. a freak in a carnival troupe
> whose
> > > act consists of eating live animals. 2. any freak or pervert. 3. a
> > > degenerate.
> > >
> > Where did you find your definition?
> >
> > http://www.m-w.com/home.htm Merriam-Webster website
> >
> > Main Entry: geek
> > Pronunciation: 'gEk
> > Function: noun
> > Etymology: probably from English dialect geek, geck fool, from Low
German
> > geck, from Middle Low German
> > Date: 1914
> > 1 : a carnival performer often billed as a wild man whose act usually
> > includes biting the head off a live chicken or snake
> > 2 : a person often of an intellectual bent who is disapproved of
> > - geeky /'gE-kE/ adjective
>
>
> The definition I posted came from the "The New World Dictionary"
>
> Dictionary of the American Language has this definition:
>
> geek: 1. a carnival performer who devours living creature to shock or
> disgust the audience 2. a disgusting person 3 a sociopath or psychopath
> 4. a degenerate or pervert
>
I'm not saying your wrong, but just outdated. Words change meaning over
time, as has 'Geek' changed meaning depending on the context. If yours is
a real paper dictionary, you should alway say which revision and it also
means most likely it outdated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux can save you money on electricity!
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:34:23 GMT
In that case, NT is a real money saver. The blue phosphors in a CRT can
be excited to the same degree of luminance using fewer electrons than
either the red or the green.
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From: Charles M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why is "ease of use" a dirty concept?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:45:08 -0500
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:43:34 +0100, "1$Worth"
<"1$Worth"@costreduction.plseremove.screaming.net> wrote:
>Well we seem to be on the same path but I say again: Why does ease of
>use take away the power from a system? For example I may use Linuxconf
>for some tasks and for others I may just pop into /etc, I still have the
>choice - the power, it's just some things are easier done by GUI (take
>for example GUI programming - I'd rather have a RAD builder than write
>this boring code myself again and again, yet I still have access to the
>source, the complexity if I choose - now that's what I call power!).
>
>
Actually, you can't . Linuxconf, using your example, has in the past
(I've not used it recently) been known to overwrite ANY manual edits
you do. It quite simply allowed you to ONLY use the GUI tool and stuck
you with whatever limitations (and there are many) it has. (Oh,
Linuxconf did have an option to turn that behavior off, but when I
tried it, it didn't do so and still overwrote any manual edits) So,
that's a case where the "ease of use" only seemed to be "ease of use"
but in actuallity was "difficult of use". You'ld be using Linuxconf,
happy as could be until one day you needed to do something its doesn't
handle. At that point, it prevents you from setting things properly,
perhaps to the point where you would have to re-install your OS,
depending on how experienced you were and how well you could get
around its locks. So, there's an example of an "ease of use" situation
from hell.
And I think that that's where "ease of use" has gotten a bad name. As
another poster put it, the term is often a misnomer, applied to poorly
designed, but flashy, gee wiz looking config tools. I don't think that
a tool that has really proven to falicitate "ease of use" is looked
down upon by anyone, be it GUI, CLI or whatnot. Most CLI have proven
themselves to work. A lot of GUI tools seem to be geared toward the
"more common", basic tasks only and fall apart when things get rough.
But, in sys administration, that's precisley when you need a good
config tool. Hence, a lot of people look down on them (fool me twice,
and shame on me and all that).
CMM
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Does VB and SQL work under linux?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:37:04 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (YAWN) wrote:
> hi all:
>
> i am thinking of putting Linux on my laptop (32MB RAM, P200, 2.0GB),
> and i am wondering if i can run Visual Basics and SQL in Linux. the
> reason being that i have classes in school that require the usage of
> these softwares. i am aware of that i can run VMWare, but i don't
> think my hardware can handle it.
>
> please direct answers to my email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> TIA
>
If you want to pass the class, forget Linux. Wait until you take a
class on Linux to do something silly like this.
BTW; post here, read here.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why is "ease of use" a dirty concept?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:40:49 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"1$Worth" <"1$Worth"@costreduction.plseremove.screaming.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> So why is "Ease Of Use" a dirty concept?
>
"Ease of use" is a purely subjective measurement.
If you type 65 wpm and have the manpages committed to memory, the mouse
is an impediment in Linux. Its like having a keyboard with only two
keys; eight otherwise useful fingers are completely idle.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Voice mail system
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:49:53 GMT
Search LinuxToday.com. I seem to recall there was a press release this
week or last about some company offering a Linux-based voicemail
system. You could also try Freshmeat, since almost everything Linux
eventually ends up there.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: God damm Microsoft
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:46:00 GMT
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeff Szarka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 27 Jul 2000 16:43:12 GMT, Jeff Silverman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Because I have to reboot the PCs, I can't do this remotely.
>
> I hope you're not serious.
>
> Where'd you "learn" your NT administration skills from?
>
> ntfaq.com
>
I must have missed something; how did you arrive at the conclusion that
he's administering NT workstations?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry McBride)
Subject: Re: God damm Microsoft
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:55:33 -0400
In article <TKZf5.2555$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Outlook uses a common base service of the OS which is being patched, which
>is why both Outlook and Outlook Express suffer from the same problem.
>Fixing one, fixes both.
>
>But, even so. I don't think you HAVE to reboot. MS often says you should,
>but that's a default response.
>
If the patched apps use or access *.dll's or if the patches alter any *.dll's
then my friend... YOU BETTER SHUTDOWN AND REBOOT! We're talking windows here...
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From: Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:10:14 -0700
Pig wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> I am a newbie of Linux and using the SUSE linux 6.3.
> I've tried different GUIs.
> I think the Gnome and KDE are the best.
> So, which one is better? Pls. suggest.
I like KDE in my Thinkpad because GNOME is too ugly in my 12.1" viewable
Active Matrix screen, the bottom horizontal bar to can not set to tiny
or thinner like in KDE.
--
I am using another Red Hat 6.2 clone -- Gentus Abit Linux Release 3.0!
Visit http://www.gentus.com for more about this Linux distribution.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was- Another one of
Lenin's Useful Idiots denies reality
Date: 28 Jul 2000 03:17:12 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> You're one of those people who thinks that the U.S. Government is
>> perfect
>Absolutely not. it's FAR too socialistic.
In what way?
>> Sounds to me like your representative republic is 4 wolves deciding
>> what 12 wolves and 240 sheep will have for dinner.
>Note if we returned to a Constitutional Senate (where the
>state legislators elect the Senators, not the common people,
>which merely turns the Senate into a 2nd House of Representatives
>full of political careerits.)
So you don't think that the present Constitution is completely
legitimate?
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does VB and SQL work under linux?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:29:01 -0400
YAWN wrote:
>
> hi all:
>
> i am thinking of putting Linux on my laptop (32MB RAM, P200, 2.0GB),
> and i am wondering if i can run Visual Basics and SQL in Linux. the
> reason being that i have classes in school that require the usage of
> these softwares. i am aware of that i can run VMWare, but i don't
> think my hardware can handle it.
>
> please direct answers to my email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> TIA
When you have a "real" computer science course, Linux will be welcome.
Any computer course that requires Windows, is like a chemistry course
that requires knowledge of alchemy.
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Windows 9x, Windows NT, UNIX, Linux. Applications, drivers, support.
Visit http://www.mohawksoft.com
Nepotism proves the foolishness of at least two people.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: No wonder Hackers love Linux
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:27:38 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Quantum Leaper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:n46g5.84912$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm not saying your wrong, but just outdated. Words change meaning over
> time, as has 'Geek' changed meaning depending on the context. If yours
is
> a real paper dictionary, you should alway say which revision and it also
> means most likely it outdated.
Perhaps, but you must admit that the on-line dictionary definition that was
posted, "a person often of an intellectual bent who is disapproved of", has
a negative connotation. I have yet to see one single definition for "geek"
that has a connotation that is not negative.
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From: "Keith T. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Will Linux Dominate the Desktop Future?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:35:35 -0400
Bob Lyday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Keith T. Williams" wrote:
> >
<snip all the important and relevant stuff>
> No. You are almost right except that were is not 1st past indicative at
> all. "I was..." Were is also the subjunctive tense be form in English,
> and all that is left of the subjunctive form. As in many other
> languages, English once had a rich subjunctive tense but this is all
> that is left of it....a remnant...
Bob, my source was http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=was
from which I quote the entire section that I plagiarized.
"be (b)
v. First and third person singular past indicative was (wz, wz; wz when
unstressed), second person singular and plural and first and third person
plural past indicative were (wûr), past subjunctive were, past participle
been (bn), present participle be·ing (bng), first person singular present
indicative am (m), second person singular and plural and first and third
person plural present indicative are (är), third person singular present
indicative is (z), present subjunctive be.
v. intr. "
Keith.
loving English to the Nth degree, but unable to master it.
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From: "Spud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just curious, how do I do this in Windows?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:37:34 -0700
[snips]
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Spud wrote:
> > > > Simple; write it out in an endian-neutal format, and have your
> > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >
> > > There is no such thing.
> >
> > Twaddle. Here's a byte order for 32-bit unsigned longs: ABCD.
> > Here's another: DABC.
>
> Name one hardware platform that uses DABC.
Hey, dimbulb, did you *read* what was written? I said *write it out*
in a neutral format - one that all your platforms can read without
worrying about who wrote it. You know, a *neutral* format? Right.
> Name one platform that uses ANYTHING other than ABCD or DCBA.
Probably none - which is neither here nor there; the issue is
*storing* the data in a neutral format.
> > Pick one, use
> > that for your actual storage format, and then it doesn't matter if
> > you're on a big, little or middle-endian machine, they can all
read
> > (and write) the data quite happily, using a single function for
each
> > of the read and write operations. Let's say we pick DCBA. Is
that
> > big endian? Nope. Is it middle endian? Nope. Is it little
endian?
> > Nope. Oh, but all three can use it without problems; voila, a
netural
> > format.
>
> Has anybody told you that you are a fucking idiot.
You apparently are doing so now... yet that doesn't help your case;
first because the mechanics of what's involved have been laid out
fairloy explicitly, whether you can get it or not.
> Every hardware platform manufactured in the last 20 years uses
either
> big-endian or little-endian notation.
So? We were discussing *storage of data*, not machine architectures.
Wake up.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: Hardware: ideal budget Linux box? (Re: I'm Ready! I'm ready! I'm
Date: 28 Jul 2000 03:41:13 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Bloody Viking wrote:
: >
: > Aaron R. Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: >
: > : Which is why I am prepared to go overseas on short notice.
: >
: > But there may be no place to run to. Becuse if our economy conks out, it'll
: Maybe. But if it happens, it's better to have a contingency plan
: that *might* work than to have no plan and be stuck on a sinking
: ship, getting sucked down in the undertow.
: > drag the rest of the planet down with it. Sort of a super-size global version
: > of the Asian debacle.
: >
: > : Hey, if you didn't avail yourself to the education which was
: > : offered to you while you were young, then that's your problem.
: >
: > Yeah, in Chicago public schools. If you like to talk about government
: > failures, you can have fun with this one.
: YOU are the one who keeps telling us that we need MORE fucking
: government programs.
: >
: > : Maybe your purpose in life is to be a warning to others.
: >
: > Yeah, the warning is choose your parents wisely.
: When are you going to quit whining like a 15-year old, and instead,
: act like an adult and take responsibility for your own life.
: Ever hear of Henry Kaiser? 7th grade education. Parents were
: dirt poor. Embarked on a crash-program to become a ship builder
: in World War 2 building Liberty ships and Victory ship.
: He put the well-established East Coast ship-builders like Newport
: News to shame.
: Determination beats privilege EVERY TIME.
: The sooner you figure that out, the happier you will be.
: You already HAVE all the tools you need, you just aren't USING them.
: >
: > : And government is no different from big business, fool.
: >
: > If you really want job security and be a mercenary bully, you could be a cop.
: > That's a growth industry!
: No. I'd be imprisoned for converting some lowlife into worm food.
: >
: > : You never know. Keep a certain amount of assets in cold, hard GOLD.
: >
: > Exactly. You can't ever know until the crash occurs. If you have some land and
: > want a sure-to-keep-value asset, stockpile _petrol_. Petrol will get
: > ridiculously valuable come the inevitable oil crunch!
: True.
: Commodities always go up in a crisis.
: >
: > : big deal. When it happens, sell short and get on with your life.
: >
: > But you better have the fastest modem! Selling short in a crash is like a
: > radio call-in contest. In the scenario of a full-blown Wall Street crash (for
: > any reason) everyone will be trying to modem- sell short. Also, you better
: > hurry too, as there's a 500 DOW point cut-off that drops the modem carriers
: > off the bus. Then, it's the people in the pit that only can sell short.
: >
: > A better strategy is to attempt to anticipate the crisis on Wall Street to
: > beat everyone to the punch. The trick is being able to. Come the time of the
: > global oil production peak, inflation will rise and the economy will stagnate,
: > like in the late 1970s. But the peak will happen when about half the oil is
: > sucked out of the ground.
: News for you. Oil production is a continual natural process. Oil
: fields which were previously declared "dried out" have been
: discovered to be refilling. Case in point, some of the original
: Pennsylvania oil fields that were tapped in the 1870's
: >
: > But it's possible that we may find alternatives to augment the energy supply to
: > power the economy, reasonably preserving its function. Then, we'll finish
: > using up all the fossil fuels, causing worse global warming. A good investment
: > for your retirement in this scenario is cheap land up north. Rich eco-refugees
: > can then buy homes on your development!
: As long as they behave themselves and don't commit felonies, it
: really doesn't bother me.
: >
: > --
: > DANGER: Charles Darwin is the lifeguard of the gene pool. Swim at own risk.
: --
: Aaron R. Kulkis
: Unix Systems Engineer
: ICQ # 3056642
: I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
: premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
: you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
: you are lazy, stupid people"
: A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
: B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
: C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
: sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
: that she doesn't like.
:
: D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
: E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
: ...despite (D) above.
: F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
: response until their behavior improves.
: G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
: adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
: H: Knackos...you're a retard.
--
DANGER: Charles Darwin is the lifeguard of the gene pool. Swim at own risk.
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:23:54 +0200
From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Marty wrote:
>
> Chris Wenham wrote:
> >
> > Actually, if I sprayed Deja with magic Invective-GoWay 99.9% of your
> > posts would vanish!
>
> Interestingly enough that seems to have happened on my news server at work. I
> am not employing a killfile, yet the internal IBM news server that I use
> during the day did not have a single one of Ed's posts. He's the only person
> that I've noticed seems to be getting filtered by them for some reason (aside
> from the spam postings which they also do an excellent job of filtering).
I had Tim Martin's posts "automagically" removed from the groups for a
while. This was, incidentally, also with an IBM news server.
Those days will forever be remembered as the Golden (but dull) Aera.
--
Karel Jansens
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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