Linux-Advocacy Digest #125, Volume #28 Mon, 31 Jul 00 07:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Chad Irby)
Re: Linux, easy to use? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
NYC LOCAL: LXNY Meeting Tuesday 1 August 2000: Marc Waldman on Publius, a
tamper-evident, censorship-resistant web publishing system ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was- Another one of
Lenin's Useful Idiots denies reality ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: No Gnome for me :-( (Salvador Peralta)
Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was: (Salvador
Peralta)
Re: Linux, easy to use? (John Sanders)
Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Linsux as a desktop platform (Dale Lakes)
Re: Microsoft, Linux and innovation (Dale Lakes)
Re: Linux is blamed for users trolling-wish. (Truckasaurus)
Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:
Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh (Loren Petrich)
Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark (fungus)
Re: LOREN PETRICH...CLOSET-DICTATOR (Loren Petrich)
OT: Re: The Failure of the USS Yorktown (Ed Cogburn)
Re: Linux, easy to use? (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark (fungus)
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From: Chad Irby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:43:13 GMT
"JS/PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> James Von Holle of Gateway testified, that no one from Microsoft has
> ever told him that Gateway should not load Netscape's Web browsing
> software on its computers. (DX 2597A (Von Holle Dep.) at 133.) Von
> Holle also testified that he was not aware of any threats from
> Microsoft "as a result of Gateway' s decision to allow users to
> choose their browser as part of the Gateway.net signup
He also testified that, at the time in question, he had been working for
Gateway for less than a month...
--
Chad Irby \ My greatest fear: that future generations will,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ for some reason, refer to me as an "optimist."
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux, easy to use?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:56:59 -0400
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >Readability? I don't see much of a difference.
>
> 'ls' is less readable than 'dir'
yeah, right. ls presents actual, useful info.
> 'cat' is less readable than 'type'
cat without options is IDENTICAL to type, you liar.
> 'grep' is definately less readable than 'find' or 'search'
uh huh. And DOS is a multi-user multi-tasking timesharing system.
>
> I seem to remember the UNIX shells were designed to be cryptic; I can agree
ls, cat, and grep are not UNIX shells, you moron.
Not only that, but every version of the DOS SHELL imitated the "cryptic"
Unix shell more and more (of course, since it only runs on top of a
pathetic kernal, it can never achieve the same power)
> with you in that the DOS shell is not much better, but I still think IMHO
> that 'dir', 'type' or 'find' is a bit more readable than the UNIX
> equivalents.
spot the idiocy
>
> --
> Pete Goodwin
> ---
> Coming soon, Kylix, Delphi on Linux.
> My success does not require the destruction of Microsoft.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: NYC LOCAL: LXNY Meeting Tuesday 1 August 2000: Marc Waldman on Publius, a
tamper-evident, censorship-resistant web publishing system
Date: 31 Jul 2000 05:00:34 -0400
This meeting is free and open to the public.
The meeting runs from 6:30 pm to 9:00 pm. After the meeting full and
precise instructions on how to get to our traditional place of refreshment
will be given in clear.
Thanks to support of the IBM Corporation, the meeting is at their building
at 590 Madison Avenue at East 57th Street on the Island of Manhattan.
Enter the building at the corner of Madison and 57th and ask at the desk
for the floor and room number.
Marc Waldman will speak on Publius, a tamper-evident, censorship-resistant
web publishing system. Publius is today a project of Lorrie Faith Cranor,
Aviel D. Rubin, and Marc Waldman. Code will be released shortly, at which
point Publius will be tested by thousands of hackers and freedom fighters
of Planet Earth. If you want to look at code today write to the
Publius Project at [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
http://www.cs.nyu.edu/~waldman/publius
http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/07/circuits/articles/27next.html
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1004-200-2183852.html?tag=st
http://www.techserver.com/noframes/story/0,2294,500223018-500319451-501797953-0,00.html
http://slashdot.org/yro/00/06/30/0614232.shtml
Publius is one of many systems in process of dream, design, coding,
testing, deployment, and/or massive enthusiastic use today which are based
upon a superior grasp of the old but often misunderstood Internet. The
Internet is a large system of communicating powerful computers. It is not
a loose congeries of "client server pairs". It is not even a system of
"large servers serving the same stuff to many people in hopes of persuading
some to send money to the owners of the servers".
Why are Publius and the many other similar/supporting projects so important
right now? Because these projects, if completed, deployed, used, and
defended, are powerful weapons in the war to keep the Net free. Everywhere
private, individual, and native tribal use of computers and the Internet
itself are under direct attack by forces whose declared objective is
precisely to stop all free use of computers and the Internet.
http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/06/03/960091140.html
Last week I had a good answer to the question:
"Jay, how can I help the Free Software Movement? I do not code, I do not
know any program well enough to do documentation, but I want to do
something."
I said "Come to the courthouse and stand beside a man whose offense is to
point out that you can watch a DVD movie, on a disk that you own, on your
own operating system, using whatever code you want."
http://www.nylug.org
http://www.opendvd.org
http://www.eff.org
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu
http://www.2600.com
http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/07/biztech/articles/31rite.html
This week and for all of this year I and you and we are again fortunate to
have a good answer:
Learn about systems that protect and encourage free use of computers and
the Internet. Most such systems require much testing by non-experts in
order to increase their fire power, accuracy, defensibility, etc., in short
their fitness for use in battle.
http://cacr.math.uwaterloo.ca/hac
http://www.oberlin.edu/~brchkind/cyphernomicon/cyphernomicon.contents.html
http://www.cryptome.org
http://ciphersaber.gurus.com
http://dmoz.org/Society/Issues/Privacy/Cryptography
http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/search?search=cryptography
Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: Aaron Kulkis -- USELESS Idiot -- And His "Enemies" -was- Another one
of Lenin's Useful Idiots denies reality
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:38:26 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thieves are....and should be eradicated just like we do cockroaches.
Quotes the whole article when replying to 2 lines!
Incorporates the signature of the previous poster!
And then adds his 29 line signature to his one line reply!
States he is a 'Unix Systems Engineer'!
The subject is quite close to the mark I think. You are completely ignorant of
usenet netiquette. Ignorance can be corrected, stupidity is for life. Which
one is it?
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From: Salvador Peralta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No Gnome for me :-(
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 07:58:39 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Did you create a seperate partition for /home so that youy can upgrade
without having to worry about losing your personal data?
OSguy wrote:
>
> Sorry, but I can't help but to wonder if Gnome is a time bomb waiting to
> explode....
>
> I had Gnome 1.0 running on my laptop (Redhat 6.2, kernel-2.2.16) just
> fine, but I thought I would try Gnome 1.2 since I've been reading how
> nice it was. Well, after finally finding that the only easy way I had
> was to upgrade it from helixcode over the T1 connection at work, I ran
> the install. The result, Gnome is permanently crippled on my
> laptop...the Gnome Panel segfaults. I sent the bug report to the Gnome
> developers and it was very nice to get the response that the problem is
> now "fixed in CVS". This doesn't help me however as it appears that I
> either run anything but Gnome on my laptop, or reinstall Redhat 6.2 on
> my laptop. Since I'm not ready to transfer all of my work off the
> laptop harddisk, I'm running KDE right now.
>
> This week, thinking I had learned my lesson, I was still running Gnome
> 1.0 on my home computer (Redhat 6.2, kernel-2.2.16smp) and it has done
> very well....until last night when I discovered the Redhat security
> fixes for gpm and pam. I installed those fixes to keep up with the
> latest security fixes, and I expected them to be unrelated to Gnome.
> Wrong. Now, Gnome 1.0's panel, while it doesn't segfault, is crippled
> where pagers, control-panel, will not run (control-panel now says I have
> no entries). The Footprint icon will no longer appear on the panel
> either, It is now the word 'menu' in the box. It took some fancy
> persuasion to get switch-desk to finally switch my desktop to KDE. What
> a mess.
>
> Now I could try to upgrade my Home system to Gnome 1.2 except that I
> only have a 56K connection here at home requiring more than 12 hours to
> upgrade, and, considering the results I had on my laptop, I'm leery
> about trying it. It is also the reason I won't be buying the Gnome 1.2
> CD from helixcode. In fact, I'm not sure that Helixcode and RedHat's
> implementation of Gnome are/would be the same, but I don't know and
> don't want to take the chance.
>
> So, it is no Gnome for me. I guess I will try again when Gnome 2.1
> comes out. Too bad because I really liked the sawfish/Gnome
> combination.
>
> Thanks for letting me rant.....
>
> <Wintrolls need not make remarks to this post since this is probably
> over their heads...no BSODs were involved.>
--
Salvador Peralta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.la-online.com
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From: Salvador Peralta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 08:47:13 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On 29 Jul 2000 19:59:49 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >The guy who gets hired as the CEO is the guy with the rich parents,
> >who can afford to send him to the Harvard business school.
>
> Gross over generalisation. What do you think the state school graduates
> do, make sausages ?
>
> >Go to a poor capitalist country and a poor communist country and
> >tell me if you notice much difference at all. Tell me about all the
>
> Go to a rich capitalist country and a rich communist ... oops ... there
> are none. I wonder why ?????
There aren't any purely capitalist countries. At least no rich ones.
Those went away in the late-19th or early 20th century, and countries
that called themselves communist were generally anything but.
Capitalism is a necessary evolutionary precursor to communism, and
communism is a stage of historical development that comes into being
only after the capitalist epoch produces the material conditions
necessary to true human freedom.
Here's a link with some of Marx's thoughts on the subject:
http://www.la-online.com/km_nydt1.htm
--
Salvador Peralta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.la-online.com
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From: John Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux, easy to use?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:44:51 -0500
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >Readability? I don't see much of a difference.
>
> 'ls' is less readable than 'dir'
> 'cat' is less readable than 'type'
> 'grep' is definately less readable than 'find' or 'search'
>
> I seem to remember the UNIX shells were designed to be cryptic; I can agree
> with you in that the DOS shell is not much better, but I still think IMHO
> that 'dir', 'type' or 'find' is a bit more readable than the UNIX
> equivalents.
>
> --
> Pete Goodwin
> ---
> Coming soon, Kylix, Delphi on Linux.
> My success does not require the destruction of Microsoft.
Oh, man! You mean I could be typing 'dir' instead of 'ls'? Damn!
That settles it. I throwing this lame Linux out and getting me a copy
of DOS for sure. Now I'll be able to _read_ what I type. (I always
wondered what the hell I was typing).
--
John W. Sanders
===============
"there" in or at a place.
"their" of or relating to them.
"they're" contraction of 'they are'.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 05:21:35 -0500
"petilon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Say you have 100 gigs on each machine, and you have 5
> > machines. 25 Gigs on each machine is sacrificed for
> > redundancy. You now have 75 gigs * 5, or 375 Gigs of
> > available disk space, whereas if you redundantly stored
> > all data on all 5 machines, you would still only have
> > 100 Gigs no matter how many machines you had in the
> > cluster.
>
> This is too simple minded because you are assuming only
> one machine can go down at any one time.
Again, are we too simple minded to consider that you can use the same
technique to calculate 2 or 3 or 5 or 10 servers going down. If you have 6
servers, and want a redundancy of two servers going down, then you double
your redundant data per server.
But really, what are the odds of more than one server going down at any one
time, without all of them going down?
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From: Dale Lakes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linsux as a desktop platform
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:19:11 GMT
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"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> And the purpose of designing a bridge across that Straits of Mackinac
> that only a Hot Wheels car can cross....is????
.
.
.
> In other words, the DESIGN used was INADEQUATE for the task which
> it was being used for.
>
> Just like a graphical shell on top of DOS is a DESIGN that is
> INADEQUATE for the task which Microsoft advocates it's use.
Well Put. This is exactly the point I was aiming at.
--
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Linux Advocate | the nipple. Everything else is learned."
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<br>And the purpose of designing a bridge across that Straits of Mackinac
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.
<br>.
<br>.
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<br>it was being used for.
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<p><br>Well Put. This is exactly the point I was aiming at.
<pre>--
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Linux Advocate | the
nipple. Everything else is learned."
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From: Dale Lakes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft, Linux and innovation
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:27:04 GMT
Jenny-poo wrote:
> Let's be precise shall we? Windows 2000 is still NT. Windows 2000
> HAS USB/PnP. NT*4* does not.
Homey, please. Winderz 2K is a nearly complete rewrite because even
Microsoft Management had the clarity of vision to see NT was hopelessly
broken.
I understand your confusion, though. The GUI looks similar so it must be
the same OS. Are you in middle management somewhere? You sound just like
one of them.
--
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Open Source Zealot | "The only intuitive user interface is
Linux Advocate | the nipple. Everything else is learned."
AIX Whore | --Bruce Ediger
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From: Truckasaurus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.sad-people.microsoft.lovers,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Linux is blamed for users trolling-wish.
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:35:12 GMT
In article <6k3c5.393$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Yannick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Truckasaurus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit dans le message :
> 8knaas$fku$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > In article <8kmnac$gq3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "David Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Truckasaurus wrote in message <8kmjo3$vjr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > >In article <2Apa5.1507$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > > "Yannick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> > that their products work only to suck money
> > > >> It's an american company...
> > > >
> > > >Oy, Nationalism... Nice going!
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yannick is not American - I believe he was implying that it was
> > typical for
> > > an American company to make products whose only use is to suck
money.
> Exactly my point here.
I can only see the "It's an american company..." reply to
"that their products work only to suck money" is a way to say something
is bad in general, in the US.
--
"Hello, everybody!"
- Doctor Nick
Martin A. Boegelund.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian
Subject: Re: Anti-Human Libertarians Oppose Microsoft Antitrust Action (was:
Microsoft Ruling Too Harsh
Date: 31 Jul 2000 10:55:21 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The Soviet Union has collapsed, which is quite different from saying
>that the Communist party has collapsed. Nay, the Communist party is
>alive and well, and true believers like Loren refuse to give up, even
>as he denies that his controllers in Moscow still exist.
Still hanging out in groves of birch trees?
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
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From: fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:03:21 GMT
Mike Byrns wrote:
>
>
> TalkCity is not owned by Microsoft. They can run whatever server they want.
> This just proves there's no operating system monopoly. You confirm that
> TalkCity runs nix. Big deal.
...that's *exactly* what Microsoft wants you to think.
This is the same company which *pays* ISPs to use Win2k,
yet they suffer this one in silence, hoping that people
will say "TalkCity is not owned by Microsoft. They can
run whatever server they want."
How's it feel to be suckered?
--
<\___/>
/ O O \
\_____/ FTB.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbough,soc.singles
Subject: Re: LOREN PETRICH...CLOSET-DICTATOR
Date: 31 Jul 2000 11:02:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Loren Petrich wrote:
>> For my part, I believe in an ideal of _noblesse oblige_.
>Then why were you deriding me for not having millions of dollars
>and having tens of thousands of minions who grovel in fear before me?
Because your personality suggests to me that only that would make
you anywhere close to happy.
>You know what *MY* definition of success is? To simply be allowed
>to enter into private agreements, without any use of force,
>intimidation, or other terms of duress, and as long as neither of
>us is harming neither each other, nor anybody else, to be FREE OF
>GODDAMNED GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS sticking his nose into my pocketbook,
>my house, my car, my bank account, my telephone, my relationships,
>or any other such thing, and STEALING OUT OF MY POCKET to buy the
>votes of the lazy and greedy who take it for granted that *they*
>have a right to live off of the fruits of MY labors without exerting
>any effort themselves
I'm sure that you'll enjoy a law that the Soviet Union had had --
a law against "parasitism".
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:04:51 -0400
From: Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: OT: Re: The Failure of the USS Yorktown
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Yes, the Soviet-supplied tube-artillery (traditional howitzers and
> cannons) have a slight edge in range against ours...
>
> BUT
>
> 1. Our artillery is more accurate at extreme range
>
> 2. MLRS systems have heavier payloads than 210mm artillery
> AND have longer range AND are even MORE accurate than
> any tube-fired projectile
>
> 3. We have superior radar for counter-artillery fire.
> As one Iraqi artilleryman said after the war:
> "to pull a lanyard was to sign your own death warrant"
>
> 4. US artillery doctrine is called "shoot and scoot" Our guys
> pull up, shot a mission and then LEAVE before any
> counter-battery fire can come raining down. (This
> form of artillery support demands extremely good planning
> and excellent discipline of the artillerymen, but when
> facing the threat of being massively outnumbered if there
> was a Soviet invasion of Western Europe, artillery
> preservation was a very high priority.
>
This is way off-topic, but this little threadlet has some good
timing, as there is another discussion elsewhere about this. Is there
a website out there that focusses on the use of artillery,
particularly counter-battery fire doctrine of WW2? Was US arty so bad
at first that it was routinely destroyed by enemy counter-battery
fire?
P.S. I can't agree that the Sherman was a good tank, the Russians
called it something-coffin, or something like that. They weren't
impressed at all. My nominee is the T34/85. Although, to be fair, a
Sherman Jumbo with the higher velocity 76mm gun was nice, but they
still needed to get close to kill a Tiger. I don't know how many were
made, they were probably rare.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: Linux, easy to use?
Date: 31 Jul 2000 11:05:16 GMT
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:20:19 GMT, Pete Goodwin wrote:
>'ls' is less readable than 'dir'
Linux also has 'dir'
>'cat' is less readable than 'type'
so alias type to cat.
>'grep' is definately less readable than 'find' or 'search'
learning the name is nothing compared to learning regular expressions.
BTW, UNIX also has find.
--
Donovan
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From: fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Micro$oft retests TPC benchmark
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:06:32 GMT
Mike Byrns wrote:
>
> Because Oracle can't parallel over clusters. An Oracle instance is on one
> hard drive. SQL Server databases can be split over multiple drives on
> multiple machines in the cluster.
...thus increasing what we call "number of points of failure".
> Data can be fetched from dozens of places at once.
If they stay up and running long enough.
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