Linux-Advocacy Digest #267, Volume #28 Sun, 6 Aug 00 19:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Unix user 10yrs + says Linux is bollocks (Daniel Tryba)
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: I'm curious (Cihl)
Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome! (Isaac)
Re: can Linux use be so low? I do not believe it. web traffic. (mlw)
Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary ("Raul Iglesias")
Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary ("Raul Iglesias")
Re: Linux or Windows 2000 ???? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: maximum (?) linux (OSguy)
Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG (Andres Soolo)
Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!! ("Spud")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 17:27:35 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Sun, 06 Aug 2000 12:55:44 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >Who cries for the employers when there is a worker shortage???
>
> The employers do a darn good job at crying without any help. Take a look
> at the lobbying for more H1B's due to the alleged skills shortage in
> the tech sector.
Show me ONE company who is not looking for more techs.
>
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 17:30:41 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 04:07:51 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
I noticed that you snipped where you mentioned "unimpressive IQ scores"
100 is unimpressive.
125 is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than the norm, as it is almost 2 standard
deviations above the norm.
And, let's not forget...Feynman was sandbagging on his Army
Entrance Exams....the fact that he was ruled 4-F for being crazy
is a good demonstration of this.
> >Name one.
>
> It's 125 to be precise.
> http://www.moshplant.com/prob/prob02/wild_scientists.html
>
> That'd mean that compared to me and most of my friends, he's dead last.
> What a dolt, huh ?
Do your friends typically sandbag their tests?
>
> (-;
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 17:31:40 -0400
Raul Iglesias wrote:
>
> > 2. So? Why should you have an income if you're not working?
>
> Well up to certain limit it is the final humanity goal I think ... unless
> big and strong companies make 90% persons work a lot to be able
> them to live very well.
Then fucking get some skills that make you more valuable to your
employer.
Ever think of that?
>
> > 3. What prevents you from looking for a job BEFORE leaving your
> > current employer?
>
> Time ? It depends on which land you live the easyness of finding a
> new job and if it is difficult it will demand time.
>
> > Capitalism is economic freedom...FOR EVERYBODY.
>
> Are you joking ?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 17:31:40 -0400
Raul Iglesias wrote:
>
> > 2. So? Why should you have an income if you're not working?
>
> Well up to certain limit it is the final humanity goal I think ... unless
> big and strong companies make 90% persons work a lot to be able
> them to live very well.
Then fucking get some skills that make you more valuable to your
employer.
Ever think of that?
>
> > 3. What prevents you from looking for a job BEFORE leaving your
> > current employer?
>
> Time ? It depends on which land you live the easyness of finding a
> new job and if it is difficult it will demand time.
>
> > Capitalism is economic freedom...FOR EVERYBODY.
>
> Are you joking ?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren's Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Daniel Tryba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unix user 10yrs + says Linux is bollocks
Date: 6 Aug 2000 21:39:20 GMT
Jodren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You don't bite much do you
Only if I'm asked asked nicely.
--
Daniel Tryba
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 17:47:32 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Bob Hauck in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:09:58 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>> However, none of this addresses the point I was addressing, which was
>>> your assertion that OEMs could "always install any other browser".
>>> While it is true that MS did not write "thou shalt not install Netscape
>>> on the desktop" into the license agreements, and the judge agrees in
>>> the FoF that they did not do this, they did still make it quite clear
>>> to OEM's what was expected of them.
>
>>Why is it that Toshiba was shipping Navigator on their desktop for almost 3
>>years with it's laptops?
>
>Gateway, Compaq, and IBM were also shipping Navigator, which is *why MS
>was pressuring them*. The fact that MS pressure was not 100%
>successful does not deny the existence of such pressure or an attempt
>to restrain trade.
The question is not whether they ever did, but why they stopped.
Astroturfers insist that it was because of lack of demand for Netscape.
As implausible as that is (their marginal expense is practically nill,
OEMs have little reason to reject such a widely accepted application
with such reasonable licensing terms), it doesn't account for the
supposedly coincidental and on-going pressure Microsoft exerted through
direct threat of price increases for Windows licensing. We are to
suppose, as an argument from ignorance, that this pressure must not have
had an effect either before or after OEMs first did, then didn't,
include Navigator.
But Microsoft advocates have long ago devolved to the point where
jumping from one false defense to another that the sheer variety and
extent of Microsoft's unethical behavior makes fully addressing clear
and persistent refutation of pro-MS arguments unnecessary. Like a
mirage with no substance, the target simply continues to move from place
to place, thus keeping those thirsty for knowledge and ethical behavior
constantly occupied dealing with the same recycled and meaningless
arguments. I'm beginning to lose respect for even those who are most
reasonable, but continue to feel that denying MS's culpability is a
noble endeavor of conscience.
--
T. Max Devlin
Manager of Research & Educational Services
Managed Services
ELTRAX Technology Services Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-[Opinions expressed are my own; everyone else, including
my employer, has to pay for them, subject to
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From: Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: I'm curious
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:01:03 GMT
Nick wrote:
>
> "Cihl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > How do you find time to write such stupid responses, anyway?
>
> Probably in the same manner you find time to read them.
>
> Nick
What do you mean? I never read stupid responses. I never write stupid
responses, either.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Isaac)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome!
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:05:38 GMT
On 6 Aug 2000 13:56:02 -0500, Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Actually for a conviction, the prosecution should have to show that
>the author did see the prior work as a part of establishing that
>copying was involved, but in the case of something famous that
>would almost be an assumption. But, if the author can prove he
>was not aware of the original that would eliminate any question.
>If you haven't seen the original, how could you copy it?
>
Yup.
The way I've seen it presented is that there is somewhat of an inverse
relationship between similarity to the original and access to the
original. By showing a degree of similarity that is extremely high, the
author of the prior work does not have to work quite so hard to show
access. On the other hand if the defendant can present strong evidence
that he never had access to the work, then he can overcome the presumption
raised by even large similarity between his work and the plaintiff's.
Isaac
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can Linux use be so low? I do not believe it. web traffic.
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 18:12:33 -0400
sid@net wrote:
>
> I was shocked to see this web page, it does web traffic analysis,
> and it claims Linux use is about 0% of total.
>
> check it out, please tell me this can't be true
>
> http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2000/August/os.html
>
> win98 61,980,402 65%
> win95 16,710,282 17%
> winNT 7,088,434 7%
> win2K 2,569,636 2%
> -
> mac 1,848,624 1%
> webTV 749,229 0%
> Linux 276,626 0%
> -
> -
> -
> amiga 5,863 0%
>
> so, if we add all window machines, we get
>
> windows 85%
> Linux 0%
>
> Which is not good. Linux is behind WebTV???
>
> well, at least we are ahead of amiga. I realy think this is
> all bougus, but if is true, then we need to do better.
>
> sid
The problem with statistics is that it is very hard to know what you are
measuring.
The counter seems to take its information from a subscription counter
box one puts on their website. This means that only small time web sites
on crappy ISPs would use it. Upscale websites implement their own
counter. Decent ISPs provide counter mechanisms for clients.
So we are talking about traffic to a narrowly defined group of web
sites. The group being defined as very limited web pages on low end ISPs
or web providers.
Does the traffic in this segment of the web represent the traffic on the
whole? I don't know, but I would opine not.
--
Mohawk Software
Windows 9x, Windows NT, UNIX, Linux. Applications, drivers, support.
Visit http://www.mohawksoft.com
I'm glad we disagree, it gives us a fantastic opportunity to be totally
honest.
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From: "Raul Iglesias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:24:34 GMT
> Then fucking get some skills that make you more valuable to your
> employer.
> Ever think of that?
I suppose you are not telling that to me (given the fact that I am
employed and happy) but doing a statement. Well ... if I were very
rich and needed two persons that knew something, would not let
the other 8 to die with no food ... that should be the difference
among humans and all sort of animals (and even some of them
behave better).
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From: "Raul Iglesias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,soc.singles,alt.society.anarchy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: ATTN: REX BALLARD: Microsoft's contracts not volountary
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:24:34 GMT
> Then fucking get some skills that make you more valuable to your
> employer.
> Ever think of that?
I suppose you are not telling that to me (given the fact that I am
employed and happy) but doing a statement. Well ... if I were very
rich and needed two persons that knew something, would not let
the other 8 to die with no food ... that should be the difference
among humans and all sort of animals (and even some of them
behave better).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Linux or Windows 2000 ????
Date: 6 Aug 2000 17:32:07 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeff Szarka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 4 Aug 2000 18:38:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas) wrote:
>
>>Wrong. It would have been correct if you had said "linux doesnt support
>>as many sound cards as windows 2000 does" or something along those lines,
>>but it most certianly supports orders of magnitudes more hardware than
>>any kind of windows does.
>
>Lets put it this way...
>
>It doesn't support as much MODERN/USER level hardware as well as any
>modern flavor of Windows does.
Isn't an ultrasparc modern?
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: OSguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: maximum (?) linux
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 18:06:55 -0500
MH wrote:
> Yes, let the slime magazine go under as they let people know the true degree
> of difficulty and down sides to using Linux, while helping new users who
> undertake the challenge.
When it is a difficulty and down sides comparison to Windows, the magazine does
a huge disservice to Linux. You Winvocates just don't get that Windows had
nothing to do with Linux, its development, and how a user will be using it.
The idiots publishing the Magazine don't understand it either....yet they are
committing fraud (in my opinion) by pretending to be Linux experts.
BTW: Linux Magazine is doing the job that maxim linux pretends to do. Linux
Journal also runs the entire spectrum from newbie to advanced.
> Elitist, I would think is the word I'm looking for to describe the
> prevailing attitude.
Elitist also describes 95% of the Windows User's prevailing attitude as well.
The MacIntosh Users have been able to attest to this for years.
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From: Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.legal,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.libertarian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: AARON KULKIS...USENET SPAMMER, LIAR, AND THUG
Date: 6 Aug 2000 22:58:21 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ROTFL. There is plenty of capitalism in Russia;
> Petrich is in his mode of obsessive lying again; it has been shown time
> and again that what is there in Russia doesn't qualify as capitalism.
> In reality it is technologically advanced neofeudalism.
It's pretty hard to classify. The today's Russia has traits of feudalism
and democracy, large parts of it are run by independent autocratic military
leaders and uncontrolled early capitalism is growing all around it. One
shouldn't forget Russia is nearing disintegration.
> Exhibit A: Gazprom, one of the biggest oil companies in the world, "created"
[...]
> Now please demonstrate Clinton ousting some president of say Shell
> or Exxon for political reasons. In Russia, business is controlled entirely by
> politics, not by economics. In USA business is obviously _influenced_
And vice versa. USA has in past and probably will in future use CIA and
Echelon to spy on businesses in other countries. Currently, Estonian
government (who used to have full ownership and control for the national
electricity production) is considering selling about half of the stock to
a USA-based company (N. R. G. Energy Inc, IIRC) and is meeting surprisingly
strong pressure from US government. The basic difference is USA is (both
politically and economically and technologically) strong enough to apply
the complex (business+politics+intelligence) to outside of itself; Russia
is not, so the still developing BPI complex preys on Russian companies
(and people).
> by politics, but forming, growing and taking over another business isn't
> about politics, it's about e.g. being able to collect enough cash or
Yes, it should. And the competition should encourage people to innovate.
Unfortunately, the companies in today's world are actively looking for
shortcuts so they could make more money with less effort--and merging with
the government is a terrific way to achieve it. (This might bring us all
back to feudalism, not just Russia. One day, wars will be fought for
business purposes, like ``let a friendly man run the small oil-drilling
country so we can have cheap oil''. Oops, it seems I'm behind the time.)
> Russia is no more business and capitalism than Middle Ages feudal
> lord appointing one of nobleman to govern one of his bigger castles.
Still, the Middle Ages feudal villages didn't have much capitalism.
In Russia, the grassroots have already moved to it.
Mafia wouldn't be possible without capitalism. Robbers on roads yes,
but not widely organized criminal networks.
> The fundamental practice of politics is creating ideology of a noble goal that j
> ustifies theft.
How true.
--
Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You can't cross a large chasm in two small jumps.
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From: "Spud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX, OF COURSE!!
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 16:07:35 -0700
[snips]
"Cihl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Pete Goodwin wrote:
> > My name is Pete Goodwin. I am not a troll. Feel free to insult all you
> > like, it won't make the slightest bit of difference. It only go to show
how
> > low and simple your mind is.
>
> Look! see? You can do it! My mind is "low and simple" now.
>
> Well, let's see. You're supporting Windows. This is an OS which
> crashes all the time, slows down by the hour when you use it, and is
> just plain awful to use for everybody.
Funny; I don't have that problem. My Windows neither crashes all the time -
nor even occasionally, barring an actual hardware fault - nor does it slow
down except in the occasional case I'm doing something with it that consumes
far more resources (read 'memory') than I actually have available. I've not
heard how Linux, or any other OS, magically makes hard drives work as fast
as memory, though, so I'd have to conclude they suffer the same slowdowns.
> This particular OS
Which OS? "Windows" encompasses a whole variety of OSen.
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