Linux-Advocacy Digest #44, Volume #30 Sat, 4 Nov 00 19:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Oracle say's Microsoft no good! ("Mike")
Re: windows as a server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (Giuliano Colla)
Re: Chad Meyers: Blatent liar ("Bruce Schuck")
Re: Chad Meyers: Blatent liar ("Bruce Schuck")
Re: I think I'm in love..... (Terry Porter)
Re: I think I'm in love..... (Pete Goodwin)
Re: I think I'm in love..... (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Ethernet efficiency (was Re: Ms employees begging for food) (Timothy A. Seufert)
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From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oracle say's Microsoft no good!
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 22:12:31 GMT
"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> > Charlie Ebert wrote:
> >
> > http://platforms.oracle.com/linux/
> >
> > Oracle Claims to have 15 million Linux users world wide. Humm....
> >
> > Charlie
>
> Let's share this with the Microsoft people.
No, Charlie, Oracle does not claim to have 15 million Linux users. What they
say is this:
"Linux is the fastest growing UNIX platform in the enterprise environment,
with over 15 million users. Oracle has over 1200 Linux customers today."
-- Mike --
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: windows as a server
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 22:37:59 GMT
Great information and thanks for taking the time to post it.
It was interesting to see all the data in one place instead of bits
and fragments.
claire
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 23:17:49 +0200, "Ayende Rahien"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Just wanted to give you this list.
>As so many people seems to think that windows is unfit for the server, I
>went out to find how many use it.
>According to netcraft, only ~20% of the servers are running IIS, 60% are
>running Apache.
>I've heard people claiming, time & time again, that windows is unfit to be
>used as a server.
>In Linux beats NT thread, they asked how many companies are running NT as a
>webserver.
>I put some (considerable amount of ) time into research and came up with
>this list, should be interesting read.
>Enjoy,
>
>I put up this list with the 100 most popular list from 100hot.com
>(http://www.100hot.com/directory/100hot/index.html, date to 02/11/2000)
>And netcraft.com survey tool. (http://www.netcraft.com/whats/)
>
>I think that you can agrees that those sites are respectable 3rd party
>tools.
>
>1> yahoo.com, FreeBSD, unknown webserver
>2> microsoft.com, Win 2K, IIS5 (some very interesting tidbits about the site
>can be found here:
>http://uptime.netcraft.com/graph?explain=1&site=microsoft.com and
>http://uptime.netcraft.com/graph?display=uptime&site=microsoft.com&find_site
>=GO)
>3> lycos.com, unknown os, IIS5 (it only run on windows 2k, so we can deduct
>that lycos run win2k)
>4> ebay.com, solaris, Apache/1.3.6 (Unix), however, www.ebay.com., which
>ebay.com redirect you to, is running NT & 98, IIS 4 & 3)
>5> aol.com, solaris, NaviServer/2.0 AOLserver/2.3.3
>6> altavista.com, Compaq Tru64 & DIGITAL UNIX , AV/1.0.1
>7> go.com, Solaris, unknown webserver
>8> egroups.com, FreeBSD, Apache/1.3.3 (Unix)
>9> excite.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/2.01
>10> real.com, Linux,
>This·is·a·real·operating·system·from·the·free·world·1.2alpha12 (yes, that
>is exactly what netcraft told me at
>http://uptime.netcraft.com/graph?display=uptime&site=real.com&find_site=GO
>too bad that it doesn't give the flavour of linux.)
>
>top 10 most popular sites, 3 Solaris**, 3 MS OS*, 2 FreeBSD, 1 Linux
>(unknown flavour), 1 Compaq Tru64/Digital Linux
>*1 Clear Win2k system, another system which is deducted to be win2k, and NT
>& 98
>** I list only 3 Solaris, since going to ebay.com only redirect you to
>www.ebay.com, which run win2k & IIS5. I'm listing ebay as win2k/iis
>
>Web Servers 10 top most popular sites: 3 IIS, 2 Unknown, 1 AOLserver, 1
>AV, 1 Netscape-Enterprise, 1
>This·is·a·real·operating·system·from·the·free·world (very strange name) *
>
>* I am going to ignore versions, in order to make things clearer for this
>particular arguement.
>
>11> google.com, Linux, GWS/1.9 (lots of versions here, from 1.2 to 1.9, I
>was surprised that it wasn't in the first ten)
>12> chek.com, Linux, Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) PHP/3.0.13-dev
>13> cnn.com, Solaris 8, Netscape-Enterprise/4.1
>14> cnet.com, Solaris, Apache/1.3.6 (Unix)
>15> usa.net, Windows 2000, IIS5
>16> mamma.com, Linux, Apache/1.3.1 (Unix) PHP/3.0.16
>17> ugo.com, NT4/Windows 98, IIS4
>18> amazon.com, Linux & Solaris, Stronghold/2.4.2 Apache/1.3.6 C2NetEU/2412
>(Unix)
>19> cisco.com, Solaris, CCO/1.0.5.7 & Cisco Systems/1.4 (Unix) &
>Apache/1.3.12 (Unix)
>20> fortunecity.com, Solaris, Apache/1.3.9 (Unix)
>
>top 20 sites, 7 Solaris, 5 MS OS, 5 Linux, 2 FreeBSD, 1 Compaq Tru64/Digital
>Linux
>
>Web Servers, top 20 sites: 7 Apache, 5 IIS, 2 Netscape-Enterprise, 2
>unknown, 1 GWS, 1 AOLserver, 1 AV, 1
>This·is·a·real·operating·system·from·the·free·world (very strange name)
>
>21> looksmart.com, Solaris, Apache/1.3.4 (Unix)
>22> snowball.com, Solaris, Zeus/3.3
>23> homestead.com, NT4/Windows 98, IIS4
>24> friendfinder.com, Linux, Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) mod_perl/1.22
>25> macromedia.com, Solaris, Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) mod_perl/1.18
>26> passport.com, Windows 2000, IIS 5
>27> spedia.net, Linux, Apache/1.3.14 (Unix)
>28> epilot.com, Windows 2000, IIS5
>29> adbutler.com, Linux, Apache/1.3.12 (Unix)
>30> theglobe.com, NT4/Windows 98, Microsoft-IIS/3.0
>
>top 30 sites, 10 Solaris, 9 MS OS, 8 Linux, 2 FreeBSD, 1 Compaq
>Tru64/Digital Linux
>
>Web Servers, top 30 sites: 12 Apache, 9 IIS, 2 Netscape-Enterprise, 2
>unknown, 1 GWS, 1 AOLserver, 1 AV, 1
>This·is·a·real·operating·system·from·the·free·world (very strange name), 1
>Zeus
>
>31> sportsline.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3
>32> mtv.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3
>33> nodak.edu, Linux, Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) PHP/3.0.16 ApacheJServ/1.0b5
>mod_ssl/2.4.5 OpenSSL/0.9.4 mod_perl/1.21
>34> zdnet.com, Solaris, Apache/1.3.12 (Unix)
>35> burstnet.com, Linux, Apache/1.3.4 (Unix)
>36> nettaxi.com, Solaris, Apache/1.3.6 (Unix)
>37> about.com, FreeBSD, Apache/1.3.9 (Unix)
>38> mail.com, Solaris, JavaWebServer/1.1.1
>39> mtnsms.com, Windows 2000, Microsoft-IIS/5.0
>40> webjump.com, NT4/Windows 98, Microsoft-IIS/4.0
>
>top 40 sites: 15 Solaris, 11 MS OS, 10 Linux, 3 FreeBSD, 1 Compaq
>Tru64/Digital Linux
>
>Web Servers, top 40 sites: 17 Apache, 11 IIS, 4 Netscape-Enterprise, 2
>unknown, 1 GWS, 1 AOLserver, 1 AV, 1
>This·is·a·real·operating·system·from·the·free·world (very strange name), 1
>Zeus, 1 JavaWebServer
>
>41> eudoramail.com, Solaris, WW (another strange name)
>42> sun.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6
>43> msnbc.com, Windows 2000, Microsoft-IIS/5.0
>44> bartleby.com, Linux, Apache/1.3.11 (Unix)
>45> musicradio.com, NT4/Windows 98, Microsoft-IIS/4.0
>46> pathfinder.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3
>47> mp3.com, Linux, Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) mod_backwash/3.36 yasl/2.15
>mod_oas/4.65 sw/1.1 include/3.6
>48> imgis.com, IRIX, Apache/1.1.3
>49> zone.com, Windows 2000, Microsoft-IIS/5.0
>50> everyone.net, Linux, Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) mod_perl/1.21
>
>top 50 sites: 18 Solaris, 14 MS OS, 13 Linux, 3 FreeBSD, 1 Compaq
>Tru64/Digital Linux, 1 IRIX
>
>Web Servers: 21 Apache, 14 IIS, 6 Netscape-Enterprise, 2 unknown, 1 WW, 1
>GWS, 1 AOLserver, 1 AV, 1
>This·is·a·real·operating·system·from·the·free·world (very strange name), 1
>Zeus, 1 JavaWebServer
>
>51> lotus.com, NT4/Windows 98 , Lotus-Domino/5.0.2 (this is the first that
>used MS OS but not IIS)
>52> uproar.com, NT4/Windows 98, Microsoft-IIS/4.0
>53> realmedia.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6
>54> collegeclub.com, NT4/Windows 98, Microsoft-IIS/4.0
>55> internet.com, Solaris, Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) (Go out and tell your
>buddies, the internet is on UNIX & Apache :-D )
>56> nai.com, NT4/Windows 98, Microsoft-IIS/4.0
>57> napster.com, Linux, Apache/2.0a6 (Unix)
>58> oracle.com, Solaris, Oracle_Web_Listener/4.0.8.1.0EnterpriseEdition &
>Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) mod_perl/1.21 ApacheJServ/1.1 & Apache/1.3.6 (Unix)
>(http://uptime.netcraft.com/graph?display=uptime&site=oracle.com&find_site=G
>O * It will be listed as Oracle Web Listener since there are far more
>results for oracle than for Apache)
>59> aveo-attune.com, NT4/Windows 98, Microsoft-IIS/4.0
>60> efront.com, FreeBSD, Apache/1.3.12
>
>top 60 sites: 21 Solaris, 19 MS OS, 14 Linux, 4 FreeBSD, 1 Compaq
>Tru64/Digital Linux, 1 IRIX
>
>Web Servers: 24 Apache, 18 IIS, 7 Netscape-Enterprise, 2 uknown, 1 Oracle
>Web Listener , 1 Lotus-Domino, 1 WW, 1 GWS, 1 AOLserver, 1 AV, 1
>This·is·a·real·operating·system·from·the·free·world (very strange name), 1
>Zeus, 1 JavaWebServer
>
>61> windowsmedia.com, Windows 2000, Microsoft-IIS/5.0
>62> kasparovchess.com, Windows 2000, Microsoft-IIS/5.0
>63> targetnet.com, FreeBSD, Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) mod_dispatch/1.11.0
>64> zakis.com, NT4/Windows 98, Microsoft-IIS/4.0
>65> wwf.com, Linux, Mediasurface/2.0
>66> weather.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3
>67> hearstnewmedia.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3
>68> lippostar.com, NT4/Windows 98, Microsoft-IIS/4.0
>69> quote.com, unknown, Microsoft-IIS/5.0 (Again, IIS5 runs only on windows
>2000, so this will go as MS OS)
>70> nasa.gov, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6
>
>top 80 sites: 24 Solaris, 24 MS OS, 15 Linux, 5 FreeBSd, 1 Compaq
>Tru64/Digital Linux, 1 IRIX
>
>Web Servers: 25 Apache, 23 IIS, 10 Netscape-Enterpirse, 2 uknown, 1 Oracle
>Web Listener , 1 Lotus-Domino, 1 WW, 1 GWS, 1 AOLserver, 1 AV, 1
>This·is·a·real·operating·system·from·the·free·world (very strange name), 1
>Zeus, 1 JavaWebServer, 1 Mediasurface
>
>71> ibm.com, AIX, IBM-Planetwide/10.56 Domino-Go-Webserver/4.6
>72> cjb.net, FreeBSD, Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) mod_perl/1.24
>73> sony.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/2.01
>74> nytimes.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/2.01
>75> developer.com, Solaris, Apache/1.3.6 (Unix)
>76> webshots.com, Linux, Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) mod_fastcgi/2.2.2
>77> talkcity.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.0G
>78> themail.com, NT4/Windows 98, Microsoft-IIS/4.0
>79> tucows.com, Linux, Apache/1.3.12 (Unix)
>80> metropoli2000.net, Linux, Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) PHP/3.0.16
>
>top 80 sites: 28 Solaris, 25 MS OS, 18 Linux, 6 FreeBSD, 1 AIX, 1 Compaq
>Tru64/Digital Linux, 1 IRIX
>
>Web Servers: 30 Apache, 24 IIS, 13 Netscape-Enterprise, 2 unknown, 1 Oracle
>Web Listener , 1 Lotus-Domino, 1 WW, 1 GWS, 1 AOLserver, 1 AV, 1
>This·is·a·real·operating·system·from·the·free·world (very strange name), 1
>Zeus, 1 JavaWebServer, 1 Mediasurface, 1 IBM-Planetwide
>
>81> hp.com, HP-UX, Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) mod_fastcgi/2.2.2
>82> web1000.com, NT4/Windows 98, Microsoft-IIS/4.0
>83> siemens.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3
>84> myalert.com, HP-UX, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP2
>85> jackpot.com, Windows 2000, Microsoft-IIS/5.0
>86> nbci.com, Solaris, Netscape-Communications/1.12
>87> freedrive.com, NT4/Windows 98, Microsoft-IIS/4.0
>88> tminterzines.com, BSD/OS, Apache/1.2.6
>89> usatoday.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6
>90> goto.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.0K
>
>top 90 sites: 32 Solaris, 28 MS OS, 18 Linux, 6 FreeBSD, 2 HP-UX, 1 BSD/OS,
>1 AIX, 1 Compaq Tru64/Digital Linux, 1 IRIX
>
>Web Servers: 32 Apache, 27 IIS, 17 Netscape-Enterprise, 2 unknown, 1
>Netscape-Communications, 1 Oracle Web Listener , 1 Lotus-Domino, 1 WW, 1
>GWS, 1 AOLserver, 1 AV, 1
>This·is·a·real·operating·system·from·the·free·world (very strange name), 1
>Zeus, 1 JavaWebServer, 1 Mediasurface, 1 IBM-Planetwide
>
>
>91> apple.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP3
>92> adobe.com, Solaris, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP2
>93> swirve.com, NT4/Windows 98, Microsoft-IIS/4.0
>94> nokia.com, BSD/OS, Netscape-Enterprise/3.6 SP2
>95> homepage.com, Windows 2000, Microsoft-IIS/5.0
>96> cnbc.com, NetWare, Microsoft-IIS/4.0 (This is being listed as MS OS, as
>IIS can only run on MS OS)
>97> golden-click.net, Linux, Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) PHP/4.0.0 PHP/3.0.16
>mod_perl/1.24 mod_frontpage/3.0.4.3 mod_ssl/2.6.4 OpenSSL/0.9.5a
>98> gohip.com, Linux, Apache/1.3.11 (Unix)
>99> goplay.com, FreeBSD, Apache/1.2.6 GoPlay-WWW/2.0.6b3
>100> monster.com, unknown, Microsoft-IIS/4.0 (This is being listed as MS OS,
>as IIS can only run on MS OS)
>
>Top 100 sites: 34 Solaris, 32 MS OS, 20 Linux, 7 FreeBSD, 2 HP-UX, 2 BSD/OS,
>1 AIX, 1 Compaq Tru64/Digital Linux, 1 IRIX
>
>Web Servers: 35 Apache, 31 IIS, 20 Netscape Enterprise, 2 known, 1
>Netscape-Communications, 1 Oracle Web Listener , 1 Lotus-Domino, 1 WW, 1
>GWS, 1 AOLserver, 1 AV, 1
>This·is·a·real·operating·system·from·the·free·world (very strange name), 1
>Zeus, 1 JavaWebServer, 1 Mediasurface, 1 IBM-Planetwide
>
>
>
>*** During this survey I've encountered number of time in time-out/no such
>host errors from netcraft, supplying the www.somepopularsite.com solved this
>in all the cases, however, as shown in ebay.com, www.somepopularsite.com !=
>somepopularsite.com, be aware that in most cases, I didn't use www., but
>just the domain name. I can only hope that the ebay case is rare.
>**** I did my best so there wouldn't be any errors, but I'm only human,
>still I don't think that there would be too many errors, though.
>
>
>Conclustions:
>Well, that took a while to complete, but it seems to me that while those
>results doesn't represent the precentage of server os/webservers out there,
>they do represent the choice of the top 100 big ones.
>You don't *get* to this position unless you've more than adequte knowledge
>about what you are doing.
>You *can't* run something like this out of your parents' garage.
>(Why am I saying this? To counter arguments like, "if X knew what
>he/she/they were doing, they would be using Y!" those people know what they
>are doing.)
>I was highly amused to discover that microsoft.com is the second most wanted
>site.
>
>First places goes to Unix, second to MS, third to Linux.
>
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 23:40:45 GMT
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "Giuliano Colla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Ayende Rahien wrote:
> > >
> > > "Giuliano Colla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Ayende Rahien wrote:
> > >
> > > > > runas command.
> > > >
> > > > Could you give some details? There's no trace of runas in NT on-line
> > > > doc, I tried help runas and I got sort of " no help available for
> runas,
> > > > try runas /?". I tried runas /? to be told that /? is neither an
> > > > executable nor a batch file. Maybe it does a lot, but documentation
> > > > appears a bit concise!
> > >
> > > Start>Run>Help>Index
> > > Write "runas", and it will take you to the runas CLI & GUI explanations.
> >
> > That's exactly what I've done in a couple of boxes (one
> > running NT4 sp4, the other NT4 sp5), but I didnt't get
> > anything between "Run" and Running". The same holds true for
> > Start>Help>Find. Then I tried "help runas" and "runas /?"
> > and only discovered that runas was there. That's why I was
> > asking.
>
> Who is talking about NT?
> I'm talking about windows 2000.
Well, windows 2000 was called NT 5 until a short time before delivery.
So I assumed (rightly) that a CLI NT 5 app was also available for NT 4.
I also assumed (wrongly) that help would be available.
> Here is what the help says about 2K Runas CLI:
>
> ____
> Runas
> Allows a user to run specific tools and programs with different permissions
> than the user's current logon provides. It is good practice for
> administrators to use an account with restrictive permissions to perform
> routine, nonadministrative tasks, and to use an account with broader
> permissions only when performing specific administrative tasks. To
> accomplish this without logging off and back on, log on with a regular user
> account and use the runas command to run the tools that require the broader
> permissions.
>
> runas [/profile] [/env] [/netonly] /user:UserAccountName program
>
> Parameters
>
> /profile
>
> Specifies the name of the user's profile, if it needs to be loaded.
>
> /env
>
> Specifies that the current network environment be used instead of the user's
> local environment.
>
> /netonly
>
> Indicates that the user information specified is for remote access only.
>
> /user:UserAccountName
>
> Specifies the name of the user account under which to run the program. The
> user account format should be user@domain or domain\user.
>
> program
>
> Specifies the program or command to run using the account specified in
> /user. For examples of the use of the runas command starting other Windows
> 2000 commands, see Related Topics.
>
> _________
>
> I'm not sure what the runas in NT is that you're talking about, try doing:
> runas notepad
> If it's what I think it is, it would ask you to enter administrator
> password, and then launch notepad with administrator privileges.
Thanks a lot. Now I'm at home and can't try, but at work I'll try, and
let you know if the "innovation" on NT5 has been only to add help, or
also to modify the command itself. Not that it really matters, but just
for the record.
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From: "Bruce Schuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Chad Meyers: Blatent liar
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 15:46:54 -0800
"Perry Pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 13:51:22 GMT,
> Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >"Perry Pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 03:33:10 GMT,
> >> Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Particularly the ones where Red Hat was compromised and trojan code
was
> >allowed
> >> >to be inserted and was released as final product by Red Hat
themselves.
> >>
> >> As usual, you are a blatent liar.
How about this one:
It lets remote users shut down a workstation on RedHat 6.0, 6.1, and 6.2.
http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHSA-2000-044-02.html
Or this one that allows root access:
A security bug in wu-ftpd can permit remote users, even without
an account, to gain root access.
http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHSA-2000-039-02.html
Etc etc.
Too many to list.
Just read through the RedHat security advisories. You'll find dozens ... or
hundreds.
It appears every package on RedHat is -- at some time or another -- some
kind of trojan that allows root access.
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From: "Bruce Schuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Chad Meyers: Blatent liar
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 15:50:35 -0800
"Bruce Schuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8c1N5.123098$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Perry Pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 13:51:22 GMT,
> > Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >"Perry Pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 03:33:10 GMT,
> > >> Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >Particularly the ones where Red Hat was compromised and trojan code
> was
> > >allowed
> > >> >to be inserted and was released as final product by Red Hat
> themselves.
> > >>
> > >> As usual, you are a blatent liar.
>
> How about this one:
>
> It lets remote users shut down a workstation on RedHat 6.0, 6.1, and 6.2.
>
> http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHSA-2000-044-02.html
>
> Or this one that allows root access:
>
> A security bug in wu-ftpd can permit remote users, even without
> an account, to gain root access.
>
> http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHSA-2000-039-02.html
>
>
> Etc etc.
>
> Too many to list.
>
> Just read through the RedHat security advisories. You'll find dozens ...
or
> hundreds.
>
> It appears every package on RedHat is -- at some time or another -- some
> kind of trojan that allows root access.
How about this one:
http://www.redhat.com/support/errata/RHSA-2000014-16.html
The GUI portion of Piranha may allow any remote attacker to execute commands
on the server. This may allow a remote attacker to launch additional
exploits against a web site from inside the web server.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: I think I'm in love.....
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 05 Nov 2000 00:00:16 GMT
On Sat, 4 Nov 2000 19:57:35 +0000, Pete Goodwin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
>> Why are you rebooting all the time?
>>
>> Get it up and LEAVE IT UP. It's not fucking crash-happy windows, you
>> know.
>
>Two reasons.
>
>It's a home PC. I don't leave it switched on all the time.
Fair enough, mine is a home machine too, and its been on every day since
Aug1997.There are reasons for leaving a Linux box on 24/24.
>
>It's a dual boot machine. I prefer to use Windows because it has more of
>what I want on it.
>
>> > Perhaps I should use Windows, after all it works!
>>
>> for about 6 hours
>
>I rarely reboot my Windows 98 SE at work. That stays up for about nine
>hours, then I switch it off to go home.
When we say we dont reboot our Linux machines, we mean weeks, or months, never
in a *single* day!
> We have a servey running Windows 98
>SE which is up for weeks before it gets rebooted for whatever reason.
>
>You want to say that Windows 98 SE crashes every time after six hours,
>that's your privilege, however it is simply not true.
>
>> What are you doing wrong?
>
>How the hell should I know?
Goodwin is just a Linux newbie kind of Wintroll, and a reasonable one at that,
I think in a decade or so, he might get the idea :)
>
>--
>Pete Goodwin
>
>Just waiting for Linux to get there...
I'm waiting for Goodwin to actually *use* Linux.
--
Kind Regards
Terry
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Subject: Re: I think I'm in love.....
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 00:02:55 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Les Mikesell) wrote in <ji_M5.13032$Y6.4870981
@news1.mntp1.il.home.com>:
>You seem unique in your ability to misconfigure a system. What
>does DrakFont say about the fonts you have available, and since
>you have a dual-boot system, did you ask it to use the windows
>fonts yet?
I installed the defaults - I made no other changes. If I can get a broken
system without touching anything, doesn't that tell you something about the
system?
DrakFont shows various fonts but seems unable to change them.
No, I didn't import any Windows fonts as yet.
>Did you report your problem to the people who will fix it?
Yep. I'm talking to them about the problem.
--
Pete Goodwin
---
Why don't I use Linux?
Waiting for Borland to release Delphi.
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Subject: Re: I think I'm in love.....
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 00:06:21 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Les Mikesell) wrote in
<%e_M5.13031$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Is someone forcing you to buy hardware that locks you into a single
>OS? (We know someone tries, but you should be smart enough
>to make your own decisions....). If you make the wrong choice,
>why complain like it is someone else's fault?
Everybody does it, so does the Linux world. That doesn't make it any more
"right" either. Should I be forced to hardware that is supported by Linux?
What happened to choice?
In any case I do plan to get a different sound card, a Crystal one. It's
the best I've used. Will I check to see if Linux supports it? Should I be
forced not to pick a better one simply because Linux does _not_ support it?
--
Pete Goodwin
---
Why don't I use Linux?
Waiting for Borland to release Delphi.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy A. Seufert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.arch,comp.os.netware.misc
Subject: Re: Ethernet efficiency (was Re: Ms employees begging for food)
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 16:06:49 -0800
In article <A9KM5.12881$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Les
Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Actually putting in any 10/100 switch can shake out cable problems
>in systems that ran fine at 10M. You really want cat 5 everywhere,
>including the jumpers from the wall to PC. Apparently some
>noise that would be ignored by 10M equipment confuses them.
In my experience, a common cabling mistake that gets caught by this is the
one where the cables were made assuming that the mapping between twisted
pairs and RJ45 pins is (1,2) (3,4) (5,6) (7,8) instead of the correct
(1,2) (3,6) (4,5) (7,8). 10M will sort of run on such cables if they're
short enough, 100M will fall flat on its face.
-- Tim
To mail me unsolicited advertisements: Move to Siberia. Wait until I
say it's OK to send. Everybody else, remove "noUCE." from my address.
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