Linux-Advocacy Digest #553, Volume #30 Thu, 30 Nov 00 05:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Whistler review. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler review. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler review. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler review. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler review. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Anyone have to use (*GAG*) Windows on the job? (Stuart Fox)
Re: Netscape review. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:22:54 -0500
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Tom Wilson wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Patrick Raymond Hancox wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > What do you have to prove with that post? Look at Windows 2000
> Pro,
> > > 650MB,
> > > > > a
> > > > > > base installation, compare that to, say, Redhat Linux, which maybe
> a
> > > > > little
> > > > > > bigger in size, but includes valuable third party tools such as
> tar,
> > > gzip,
> > > > > > and StarOffice.
> > > > >
> > > > > a single UDMA66 20Gb drive sells for about $180 or so, last i
> looked.
> > > 650Mg
> > > > > (which, i'm guessing, includes your page file) is not much of a
> problem.
> > > >
> > > > Bloat-ware is bloatware, no matter how much it costs.
> > > >
> > > > Bloat is one of the reasons why LoseDOS performance SUCKS!
> > >
> > > That'd change if CS students were forced, for at least one semester, to
> > > write assembly code for a small 65xx based system with 8K. Learning how
> to
> > > do things compactly and efficiently would be the result.
> >
> > True.
>
> Picture Aaron, if you would, an eighteen year old college freshman. He's a
> whiz with VB.
>
> The Assignment: A simple, text prompted, artillery game. (You know the type)
> using the above mentioned hardware and an assembler.
>
> Interesting visual, huh?
And totally worthless.
>
> --
> Tom Wilson
> Go home Al....
> Game over, man!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:23:20 -0500
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Tom Wilson wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Patrick Raymond Hancox wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > What do you have to prove with that post? Look at Windows 2000
> Pro,
> > > 650MB,
> > > > > a
> > > > > > base installation, compare that to, say, Redhat Linux, which maybe
> a
> > > > > little
> > > > > > bigger in size, but includes valuable third party tools such as
> tar,
> > > gzip,
> > > > > > and StarOffice.
> > > > >
> > > > > a single UDMA66 20Gb drive sells for about $180 or so, last i
> looked.
> > > 650Mg
> > > > > (which, i'm guessing, includes your page file) is not much of a
> problem.
> > > >
> > > > Bloat-ware is bloatware, no matter how much it costs.
> > > >
> > > > Bloat is one of the reasons why LoseDOS performance SUCKS!
> > >
> > > That'd change if CS students were forced, for at least one semester, to
> > > write assembly code for a small 65xx based system with 8K. Learning how
> to
> > > do things compactly and efficiently would be the result.
> >
> > 68xx would be better.
> >
> > The 65xx line is only appropriate for industrial microcontrollers
> > and toys.
> >
>
> And therefore an excellent tool to teach floating point theory!
> I'm a sadist, Aaron, not a realist.<g>
Yes, you are.
>
> --
> Tom Wilson
> Go home Al....
> Game over, man!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:24:25 -0500
kiwiunixman wrote:
>
> So, when word97.exe is 20MB is size, it indicates to the customer,
> "oooooooooooooo look at all the features", when in hindsight, if they
> were educated, they would actually say, "oooooooooooooo look at that
> bloated application". I have used Lotus Smart Suite on Windows, a full
precisely.
> install only takes up 200-250MB, compared to Office 2000 which uses
> 400MB for the first CD-ROM, and god knows how much for the second. The
> best part about Smart Suite and Wordperfect is that they do not force
> you to install a browser, unlike Microsot which forces you to install
> IE, yet we still have idiots buying Office? I just donot understand how
> their brain works in these people.
Most people are idiots.
>
> kiwiunixman
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> > kiwiunixman wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder who the developers are who develop the apps at Microsoft, does
> >> the big Microsoft think tank say to the developers to write a program
> >> with a whole heap of features (that no body except the 0.01% who find
> >> them useful) and not to worry about efficiency. For once I would like
> >> Microsoft to set a base system that all their Office and Operating
> >> System (Client) software should work at a reasonable level on, say a
> >> Pentium 100 with 850 Mb HDD and 32MB Ram, if it doesn't perform, back to
> >> development until is does, then finally Microsoft will realise that
> >> every computer user does not have a bottom-less pit of money in their
> >> back yard so that they can upgrade their hard disk, memory, and
> >> processor so that they (the consumer) can use the new version of Office
> >> and Windows, why not stick with the version they already have? well,
> >> their work has upgraded, hence the new suite file types are not
> >> compatible with the previous release...could all this bloatware be a big
> >> a conspiracy theory....Microsoft colluding with Hard disk, memory and
> >> processor manufacturers. :) so that they (hardware manufacturers) can
> >> sell more of their products.
> >
> >
> >
> > You don't understand...BLOAT is actually a Microsoft sales tactic.
> >
> > First, you upgrade Word...which slows down your old system...
> > so, then, you try upgrading the OS...which ends up slowing down
> > the system even more...
> >
> > finally, you throw up your hands in disgust, and buy a whole
> > NEW computer....thus paying for ANOTHER copy of Word, and ANOTHER
> > copy of the OS.
> >
> >
> >
> >> kiwiunixman
> >>
> >> T. Max Devlin wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Patrick Raymond Hancox wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> a single UDMA66 20Gb drive sells for about $180 or so, last i looked. 650Mg
> >>>>> (which, i'm guessing, includes your page file) is not much of a problem.
> >>>>
> >>> Said kiwiunixman in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:04:53
> >>> GMT;
> >>>
> >>>> Add 34 real media files, development programs, games, office suite and
> >>>> other assorted goodies, and there ya go, almost full.
> >>>>
> >>>> kiwiunixman
> >>>>
> >>> It is simply foolish and ignorant to *ever* consider a real resource
> >>> (that being something that is in limited supply, regardless of how large
> >>> the supply is) as unlimited. It is the primary failure in most cases in
> >>> which resource limitations are a problem, in fact, and is the only
> >>> reason they ever do become a problem. Because some numbnuts thought,
> >>> "resources are cheap, so its not much of a problem."
> >>>
> >>> This is most particularly true with hard drive space. You cannot make a
> >>> hard drive bigger; you have to replace the hard drive with a larger one,
> >>> or add an additional drive. (This is trivial in Unix, as a mount point
> >>> can be added anywhere as an extension of the existing file system; the
> >>> only limitation is you can't make it part of an existing directory. It
> >>> is not possible to do this in a way which is operationally effective in
> >>> any MS system, as the new drive is always an additional storage resource
> >>> from the root.) Because the hard drive is persistent storage, it is
> >>> inevitably much more difficult to "expand" hard drive space than it is
> >>> to add RAM, or even to replace the CPU entirely! (Except in any MS
> >>> system, where changing the CPU requires what is effectively the
> >>> equivalent of a "kernel recompile", except you need the OEM disks for
> >>> every piece of hardware you have connected to the system!)
> >>>
> >>> Pretty pathetic how bad PCs are, in the real world, with Microsoft
> >>> illegally monopolizing, in comparison to what you would expect if you
> >>> know anything about computer development over the last thirty years,
> >>> don't you think?
> >>>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:26:01 -0500
Josiah Fizer wrote:
>
> Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> > "mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > In article <903l4c$57ru$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ayende Rahien wrote:
> > > >
> > > >"mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > >> >Conrad Rutherford wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > >> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> <very large snip because Aaron doesn't understand the first thing
> > about
> > > >> >> replying to posts or how to use usenet or even how to change
> > underwear
> > > >more
> > > >> >> than monthly 100+ lines to write unrelated stupidity at the bottom -
> > a
> > > >> >> typical @yahoo.com user, almost as bad as an aol.com user>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > For now, I think that there is a good chance that Whistler will
> > be
> > > >as
> > > >> >> good
> > > >> >> > > from win2k as win2k was from NT.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Wow....look at this car
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > It's great
> > > >> >> > It's fantastic.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > They painted it at the factory!!!!
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > No, I don't know anything about whether the engine is any good,
> > > >> >> > or how it handles in turns....or even going in a straight line
> > > >> >> > down a highway at a mere 60 km/h (US 40 mph)...i only got to
> > > >> >> > drive it 5 feet forwards and back..
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Yeah...I know there's no locks on the doors...and you can't
> > > >> >> > roll up the windows...and...you know...it doesn't have any
> > > >> >> > rear view mirrors...or seat belts...and that hand-crank in
> > > >> >> > place of the usual steering wheel is gonna take some getting
> > > >> >> > used to...and...yeah, it's kinda strange how they put the
> > > >> >> > radio upside down mounted on the floor...it's got a really
> > > >> >> > leaky fuel system...but...it's got a custom paint job...and
> > > >> >> > when I crack up on the highway, and die in a ball of fire...
> > > >> >> > well, it's gonna look really cool!
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > And...looking cool THAT's what's REALLY important...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Here's a hint, Ayende....GROW THE FUCK UP
> > > >> >> > --
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Hey Aaron, want YOUR hint?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Hey, look at this car.
> > > >> >> Well, it's not really a car yet, it's just a bunch of parts made all
> > > >over
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Really?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I've done full-installs of Linux from various makers.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >ONE reboot, and the system is up and running...with ALL hardware
> > drivers
> > > >> >installed, and ALL applications available immediately.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Getting the same hardware configuration to work on a Windows machine
> > > >takes
> > > >> >MANY reboots (1 for the sound card, one for the graphics card, one for
> > > >> >the monitor, one for the printer, one for the mouse, one for the
> > scanner,
> > > >> >one for the network card, another for the network configuration.....
> > > >> >
> > > >> >And then...installing the software...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Lets see...If you installed 1,500 apps on a windows machine....how
> > long
> > > >> >would it take?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >A day? don't be foolish!
> > > >> >
> > > >> >2 weeks?
> > > >> >3 weeks?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Just exactly how many WEEKS would it take to install 1500 apps on a
> > > >windows box?
> > > >> >
> > > >> Exactly why my company uses pre-made images on CD. Problem now is that
> > > >> Microsoft want paying twice. One for the OEM version, then once
> > > >> for the CD.
> > > >
> > > >1500 apps on one machine?
> > > >Assuming average install time of 5 minutes, that means about 5 days of
> > just
> > > >sitting there 24 a day, just installing software.
> > > >If we assume 8 hour work days, it results in over two weeks.
> > > >No one install 1500 apps on a machine.
> > > >No one *need* 1500 apps on a machine.
> > >
> > > Ah, you know so little. Look up debian and see what you can have,
> > > fully automatically installed. A mere 1500 is nothing. You really
> > > have swallowed the microsoft line here.
> > >
> > >
> > > You can have as many as you like with linux, no arbitrary limits.
> > > No 'no one *need* 1500', no '640M is enough for anyone'.
> >
> > Why would you need 1500 applications?
> > Give me a good reason why would you need 1500 application installed.
>
> The trick is that he's counting things like grep, ls and man as "applications".
> By that logic I have 1200 or so "applications" on my NT workstation, 1500
> wouldn't be much of a stretch.
Wrong. ls, man, and grep are part of the base installation.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Whistler review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:27:17 -0500
"J.C." wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:12:49 +0000, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >>No one *need* 1500 apps on a machine.
>
> If someone needs to do 1500 different things, then they'll have to install 1500
> different apps. This ain't MS Office/windows/other shitty MS products that try
> to do _everything_ (and screw everything up royally in the process...)
>
> >Ah, you know so little. Look up debian and see what you can have,
> >fully automatically installed. A mere 1500 is nothing. You really
> >have swallowed the microsoft line here.
>
> Dude, you're forgetting SuSE and their half-dozen or so CDs... ;)
SuSE is really great.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone have to use (*GAG*) Windows on the job?
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:18:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Neither Microsoft nor Microfocus seems to
> have an answer for this other than their
> use.
>
Interesting that Microsoft wouldn't send someone on site to work with
you to fix it. We had a problem in NZ with a single Exchange server
with a major MS client, we had a Microsoft engineer on site for several
days working it out.
> Our servers will stop and start 5000 programs
> per day. At ususally the 6500 pid level
> they will start failing, one by one.
Why so many? (Curiousity factor here...)
>
> And the man is correct.
> Microsoft is a peice of shit for a server.
>
> The workstations we have aren't much better.
> You can edit and compile programs for 3-4
> days before the same thing happens with them.
>
Our developers don't seem to have the same problem.
> Now, I've told you the truth. We have
> complaints filed with Microsoft.
As have I.
>
> And you've been given the straight stuff
> here. And I already know your going to
> act like a baby and call me a liar,
> but he other people reading this won't
> think so.
Why would I call you a liar? Don't hold me to your low standards. All
I can say is that our experience with NT as a server is different from
yours.
>
> So you have it. I answered your question.
> They don't handle heavy loads very well
> at all.
OK, so the next question is: Given that you are having so many problems
with the NT servers, and this must be causing interruption to the
business, why haven't you migrated to Unix?
Stu
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Netscape review.
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:30:22 -0500
spicerun wrote:
>
> Chad Myers wrote:
>
> > -Chad
>
> Actually, more of a 'hanging chad'
Can I pull the lever?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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