Linux-Advocacy Digest #553, Volume #33 Thu, 12 Apr 01 16:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message (T. Max Devlin)
Re: t. max devlin: kook (Anonymous)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (The Ghost In The
Machine)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Rob
Robertson)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (The Ghost In The
Machine)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (The Ghost In The
Machine)
Big Brother Billy does it again! (Dave Martel)
Re: New directions for kernel development (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: NT kiddies, don't try this at home (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft ("Jonas")
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:46:18 GMT
Said billh in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:05:10 GMT;
>"Roberto Alsina" <
>
>> If "murder" means "unlawful kill", then since the laws of aramaic tribes
>> in 2000BC are not at all like today's, the distinction is meaningless.
>
>It doesn't surprise me at all that you are unclear of what is murder.
What is unsurprising is how far you can be off the mark, and still think
you can handle this conversation. An ad hominem attack certainly seemed
to fit the bill in announcing how thoroughly your rhetorical ass has
been metaphorically kicked.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:46:37 GMT
Said billh in alt.destroy.microsoft on Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:00:31 GMT;
>"Roberto Alsina"
>
>> It doesn't surprise me at all that you are unclear that murder now and
>> murder three thousand years ago don't mean the same thing.
>
>ROFLMAO!!!!
What's funny?
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:48:23 GMT
Said Joseph T. Adams in alt.destroy.microsoft on 12 Apr 2001 09:44:09
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Russianbear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: Bah - If there is a God he is no better than a common dictator and there is
>: NO reason at all to worship him. Anyone who says live by my rules or be
>: punished with death or eternal damnation is an asshole.
>
>
>First of all, God has only two main rules, according to Jesus. First
>is to love Him. Second is to love your neighbor.
>
>I don't think those are unreasonable requests.
Says who? According to God and Jesus (according to those who say
'according to God and Jesus'), there were plenty of other rules, and
less reasonable requests.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:50:10 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:41:07 -0400
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Jon Johanson wrote:
>>
>> "Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > On 2 Apr 2001 18:43:06 -0500, Jon Johanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > >> "Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
>> > >> > Really now. I would also ask how in the hell
>> > >> > you've determined that Microsoft has merely
>> > >> > implemented some 4.4BSD code in order to
>> > >> > get Windows2000. Do you have access to the
>> > >> > WindowsNT v4.0 and v5.0 source trees?
>> > >>
>> > >> the "strings" command finds embedded strings in ANY file, including
>> > >> compiled executables and dll files.
>> > >>
>> > >> "Copyright (C), Regents of the University of California" strings have
>> > >> been found in Mafia$oft's DLL files.
>> > >>
>> > >> Hope that helps.
>> > >
>> > >I don't believe you. How about showing us one?
>> > >
>> >
>> > Hey Everybody! It's Jon! Hi Jon!
>> >
>> > You asked, so here ya go:
>> >
>> > Here are some files from a Windows 2000 Professional system along with
>> > the copyright strings that are contained in them:
>> >
>> > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\finger.exe
>> > @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 The Regents of the University of California.
>> > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\nslookup.exe
>> > @(#) Copyright (c) 1985,1989 Regents of the University of California.
>> > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\rcp.exe
>> > @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
>> > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\rsh.exe
>> > @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
>> > C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\FTP.EXE
>> > @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
>> >
>>
>> Yer right - look at that. Proof from a linvocate - sorry, that
>> caught me off guard.
>>
>> big deal - you don't really consider those commands significant to the rest
>> of W2K do you?
>
>FTP isn't significant?
>
>Clue for the clueless--that's the protocol used for pushing all
>the files every time you browse a web page.
Sorry to disappoint you, old boy, but HTTP is a totally different
protocol -- although both are unencrypted and socket-based.
(HTTPS = HTTP + SSL/TLS; see RFC2246 for details on SSL/TLS.)
Cf. RFC1945 and RFC2068 for the gruesome details. I'm not sure
what RFC covers FTP; I'd have to look, but I can tell you that FTP
uses two sockets (one control, one data) and has no headers a la RFC822.
HTTP uses one socket, which can fetch multiple pages per data connection
if one is using HTTP/1.1 ("Connection: Keep-Alive" versus
"Connection: close"); note also that this is in fact the *default* behavior
and one must specify "Connection: close" if one wants to have the
server close the connection -- or simply close it himself.
All of these are available at http://www.faqs.org -- just type in the number.
Or search by name or concept.
I'd be mildly surprised if IE5 is using them, anyway; FTP.EXE
opens up its own console during operation, if one isn't available already.
However, typing in ftp://blah.blah.com/blah/blah/blah in IE will
present one with something entirely different -- although to the
casual user it will look very much like a local directory presentation.
(One difference: drag & drop doesn't work; one has to copy to a local
folder. Yet Another Unexpected Windowsism That Surprises The
User Expecting It To Be Intuitive.)
>
>rcp... remote copy. similar needs
>
>rsh... remote command execution... foundation-level
>tool used in web interactions.
That I rather doubt -- although there is a telnet://user:password@host/
specification in one of the RFC's -- probably RFC1945, but the
standards body may have split up HTTP and URI/URL specifications.
I don't remember offhand.
>
>nslookup... very important..that's how you translate symbolic hostnames
>(like www.google.com) into numeric IP addresses
See my prior post on why this is not absolutely essential. However,
I will also note that the IE launcher -- probably
%SYSDIR%\Program Files\Plus!\Microsoft Internet\Iexplore.exe --
is all of 77 KB; I've had Amiga games that are larger!
(I also know that IE4 installed a bunch of crap in my system directory.
I doubt IE5 or IE5.5 changed that philosophy. Spot Where The
Functionality Is Not Hiding. :-) Deleting this stub file won't
affect the DLLs installed elsewhere, although it may make them
unavailable to the casual user.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:51:47 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Chris Ahlstrom
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:57:11 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 03:16:39 +0200, Peter T. Breuer
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >In comp.os.linux.advocacy Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >>> Clue for the clueless--that's the protocol used for pushing all
>> >>> the files every time you browse a web page.
>> >
>> >> Looks like you're the clueless one. Web pages use HTTP for
>> >> file transfers (you know, downloading images, or Java code,
>> >> or whatever). Not FTP, and
>> >
>> >Wrong. The "publish" thing in the browsers is ftp.
>>
>> HTTP has supported uploading since ages.
>>
>> --
>> Roberto Alsina
>
>Looks like some network sniffing while uploading will solve
>this one!
>
><hint>I'm not up for it myself</hint>
I suspect it just uses HTTP's PUT, assuming Microsoft didn't do
something weird -- knowing them, they embraced and extended it.
>
>Chris
>
>--
>This application has crashed unexpectedly.
>Hit OK to terminate, or Cancel to debug it.
>
>Doh!
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:51:56 GMT
Said jaymz in alt.destroy.microsoft on Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:58:57 +1000;
>fuck, talk about geeks !
Christ, welcome to Usenet!
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:51:47 -0600
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: t. max devlin: kook
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
t. max dumbass:
> Said Anonymous in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sun, 8 Apr 2001 06:30:34
> -0600;
> >T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Anything with a command line is easier to learn, of course, because it
> >> is simpler
> >
> >i just wanted to see that again
>
> And I bet the last thing in the world you wanted was for me to explain
> it. You're such a putz, pretending like typing is somehow impossible.
now that you mention it i wonder how many people can type with sufficient
accuracy to effectively make use of the command line...
but what i originally had in mind was the difference between memorizing
a whole series of cryptic commands and just pulling down the menus and
seeing what they say.
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
more even than death
- bertrand russell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:58:52 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Johan Kullstam
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on 11 Apr 2001 15:58:24 -0400
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Syntax highlighting is useful for NOVICE programmers.
>>
>> Most experienced programmers have used one-color text
>> for program code for years...
>
>for me, 1 color is simply not enough. i want 2 colors -- one for
>foreground and another for background.
That does help, although I suppose one could copy-and-paste from
a monocolor editor to a dicoloreditor.... :-)
The main problem there is to tell what the highlighted region is.
(I have the same problem with the term "monochrome".)
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>>> Make Signatures Fast! <<<
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From: Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:58:52 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> Rob Robertson wrote:
> >
> > silverback wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:22:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam A. Kersh)
> > > wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > >I've come to the conclusion based on silverback's posts over the
> > > >last year that he is a closet communist. He touts "welfare" aka
> > > >redistribution of wealth through "progressive taxation."
> > >
> > > sorry progressive taxation is not redistribution
> >
> > Poor Glen doesn't know whether he's a Fascist (e.g., the state take-over
> > of the California electricity industry) or a Communist (everything else)!
> > But, that's the problem with labels; a Bloody Collectivist like Glen will
> > twist and contort himself a million different ways in order to disguise
> > the liberty-destroying nature of his politics.
> >
> > What *is* happening in America today? Are we feeling the effects of
> > 'democratic socialism', 'liberal fascism', or something else entirely?
> >
> > From http://www.taxguru.org/politics/Commies.htm;
> >
> > COMMUNIST MANIFESTO
> >
> > Published in February 1848 by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.
> >
> > Following are the ten measures needed for a Communist society, exactly
> > as published in the English language translation.
> >
> > 1. Expropriation of property in land and application of all rents of
> > land to public purposes.
> >
> > 2. A heavy progressive tax.
> >
> > 3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
> >
> > 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
> >
> > 5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of
> > a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
> >
> > 6. Centralization of transport in the hands of the State.
> >
> > 7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the
> > State; the bringing into cultivation of wastelands, and the
> > improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
> >
> > 8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial
> > armies, especially for agriculture.
> >
> > 9. Combination of agriculture with industry, promotion of the gradual
> > elimination of the contradictions between town and countryside.
> >
> > 10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of
> > children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of
> > education with industrial production, etc.
> >
> >
> > The constitution of the United States is currently an odd admixture
> > of fascism, socialism, and resilient pockets of laissez-faire capitalism.
> > It defies an easy categorization because many of the previous forms of
> > collectivism have transformed themselves, as these freedom-destroying
> > ideologies are wont to do. That is why I refer to the current structure
> > as 'AmSoc'.
>
> Repealing the 17th Aemendment (it took the Senate out of the hands of the
> state legislatures, and turned it into a super-House-of-Representatives
> by mandating popular elections) is absolutely essential.
I agree, and during the Senate's disgraceful actions in trying
Clinton's impeachment, I'd put much of the blame on the 17th
for the reasons you make here.
> When the senate was chosen by state legislatures, the Federal
> government was kept in check, and socialism had an insurmountable
> wall to overcome.
Plus, it was an integral part of the federal plan for government,
that one body (the House) would reflect the interests of the people
and the other body (the Senate) would reflect the interests of the
sovereign states.
> If you TRULY want to see an end to the leviathan Federal Government,
> then get the 17th Amendment repealed. When that happens, you'll
> see that the House of Representatives will no longer have the
> ability to commit such outrages such committing blackmail upon
> the state legislatures by holding federal gas tax revenues
> (earmarked for federal highways) hostage until they cry uncle.
I don't know how far it would actually go in achieving that, but
I agree that it is a necessary step. Plus, Yeadon's a Communist.
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
_
Rob Robertson
"It's nice to share."
-Jot
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:59:15 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Ken Tough
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:53:23 -0400
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Paul Shirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>>Syntax highlighting is useful for NOVICE programmers.
>
>>>Most experienced programmers have used one-color text
>>>for program code for years...
>
>>...although the ones that earn a living at it mostly side with the
>>novices.
>
>I think there's probably a UNIX/realtime - "enterprise" divide
>here. Quick straw poll -- how many UNIX programmers use 1 colour?
Which one? :-)
>
>--
>Ken Tough
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:00:54 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roberto Selbach Teixeira
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on 11 Apr 2001 15:18:38 -0300
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Phillip Lord wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>> "Aaron" == Aaron R Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>> Aaron> Phillip Lord wrote:
>>> >> >>>>> "Aaron" == Aaron R Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> >>
>>> Aaron> Which means that as soon as your on a new machine, your
>>> Aaron> stuck editing WITHOUT your config file....
>>> >>
>>> Aaron> UGH.
>>> >> This is why God invented NFS mounted home spaces.
>>> >>
>>> >> Phil
>>>
>>> Aaron> And if your behind a corporate firewall which doesn't
>>> Aaron> permit NFS connections through it....
>>>
>>> Fortunately god also invented floppy disks.
>>>
>>
>> emacs that fits on a floppy. you're kidding, right?
>>
>
>There's one in Tom's boot :-)
I've heard of shoehorning things, but this is getting silly. :-)
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Big Brother Billy does it again!
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:51:08 -0600
Here we go again, folks! From the Wall Street Journal:
<http://www.canoe.ca/MoneyWSJ/wsj2-dow.html>
"MP3, a popular format for downloading music from the Web, is
encountering competitive pressure as leading technology companies such
as Microsoft Corp. work to subtly wean consumers away from the
technology."
"These companies, which have the music industry's blessing, are
encouraging those who download music to use new proprietary software
formats that make the audio sound significantly better but also make
it harder to share copyright- protected songs."
"Microsoft, for example, plans to severely limit the quality of music
that can be recorded as an MP3 file using software built into the next
version of its personal-computer operating system, Windows XP. But
music recorded in the Redmond, Wash., software company's own format,
called Windows Media Audio, will sound clearer and require far less
storage space on a computer."
<snip>
"Under Microsoft's new restrictions -- which prevent its built-in
software from recording MP3 files at fidelity rates higher than 56
kilobits per second -- MP3 music 'sounds like somebody in a phone
booth underwater,' says P.J. McNealy..."
"...The new restrictions in Windows XP won't prevent other vendors'
software applications from recording MP3 music at a higher fidelity,
but early testers of beta versions of Windows XP already complain that
the most popular MP3 recording applications -- which compete with
Microsoft's format -- don't seem to function properly..."
Funny about that...
The article goes on to quote "Microsoft" as saying that "while other
software vendors' products may not be "optimized" to run with Windows
XP, those products should run acceptably with the operating system." I
wonder why just "acceptably"??? :-/
There's much more of interest in the article, including MS's claim
that the reason they're doing this is to avoid paying a license fee
for a higher-quality MP3 encoder. Yeah, sure.
There's another story derived from this one on the Register, at
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/18276.html>.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: New directions for kernel development
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:05:41 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Linus Torvalds
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:49:58 -0700
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Hi all,
>
> Recently, I've been thinking a lot about where Linux
>development should head now that 2.4 is out.
And here I thought Transmeta would have their own newsserver
(check the above message ID)....nice try at stupidity, though,
whoever you are. :-P
[rest snipped, as it's massively silly]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: NT kiddies, don't try this at home
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:08:51 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Dave Martel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:25:53 -0600
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
><http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/5/18265.html>
>Missing Novell server discovered after four years
>
>"...the University of North Carolina has finally located one of its
>most reliable servers - which nobody had seen for FOUR years...One of
>the University's Novell servers had been doing the business for years
>and nobody stopped to wonder where it was until some bright spark
>realised an audit of the Campus network was well overdue...Attempts to
>follow network cabling to find the missing box led to the discovery
>that maintenance workers had sealed the server behind a wall."
>
>Can you imagine an NT server running totally unattended for four
>years?
Sure, if nobody connects to it and all services are disabled... :-)
Of course, one might then start quibbling as to whether it's
really a server or not; kind of like asking whether a restaurant
with no food is deserving of the term "restaurant", or a
car wash that doesn't wash, or a phone unit that doesn't have a
dial tone, or ... well, you get the idea ... :-)
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From: "Jonas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:09:50 GMT
> > You can tailor your own programs to work with MS Office and other MS
Suites.
>
> It's obvious that you don't even understand the concept.
Sure I do. It's something conceived in the mind. I noted that your a UNIX..
whatever. Writing that as an end tail is noted. Windows has done a hell lot
of more for computing through out the world then any highly priced UNIX
system have done. And for Linux; You gonna run that without the distribution
package(s) ? What about running different distributions in the same LAN ?
(just wondering about the success of interaction between clients here since
this "ad" is on the internet:
OpenLinux is a full-featured, "Linux for Business" solution that expands
Internet/intranet, network and desktop capabilities.
I guess they have profiled themselves away from other distributions (5 or
more and counting) offering something the other aren't capable of ?
> > The Java language is just an overstated, idiotic system the serves no
one
> > with efficiency in mind. C++ just do everything faster, more flexible,
and
>
> Efficiency is *never* a design goal of interpreted languages, DUMBASS.
That's no argument. Do you believe in garbage collection over tailored
memory management techniques with FLEXIBILITY in mind ?
> Has your company had a "visit" from the Business Software Alliance,
> looking for Mafia$oft machines with no corresponding certificates yet?
Not an argument.
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