Linux-Advocacy Digest #629, Volume #30            Sun, 3 Dec 00 16:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: [OT] Gore & Bush ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: WINDOZE is awful ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Dumbing down linux? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Linux is awful ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Tom Wilson")
  Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Tom Wilson")

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:07:24 -0500

Charlie Ebert wrote:
> 
> In article <kAnW5.4399$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Tom Wilson wrote:
> >
> >"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:38:26 -0500, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >well to be honest the legal system never thought we would have such a
> >> >crybaby loser like we have with Gore so b/c of him we are having a 30
> >> >day election instead of a 1 day election with some votes counted 5 times
> >> >and the other 95% counted once.
> >>
> >> Gore did win the popular vote nationally, so your man Bush was really
> >> the minority choice.  If the tables were turned, would you be telling
> >> Bush to concede or would you be insisting that he's only taking
> >> advantage of the options available and saying that the electoral
> >> college system needs to be thrown out?
> >
> ><soapbox>
> >
> >Actually, Republicans wouldn't have allowed Bush to follow this course.
> >They're not stupid. What Gore is doing now is damaging a party already
> >banged-up by Clinton. How the hell else, in this strong economy, could the
> >election have even been close?  What Gore's doing now is adding more nails
> >to the Democratic coffin. I used to be a STAUNCH Democrat, until around
> >1993. The Democratic party, now, isn't the party I used to support. Their
> >idiotic post-election behavior just re-enforces that decision. The longer it
> >goes on, the less viable the party becomes. A smart Democratic party would
> >have gracefully bowed out, allowed the Republicans to have a legitimately
> >questionable four year turn at the helm, then come back and clean house in
> >2004. As it stands, they're putting 2002 senate races in jeopardy. Mark my
> >words, the longer this goes on, the more seats they'll lose. Now, any
> >efforts by them to tie up the senate to counter Bush proposals will appear
> >as more sour grapes. In 2004, they're going to nominate Hillary Clinton.
> >Just watch. It will be an unmitigated disaster!
> >
> >IDIOTS!
> >
> ></soapbox>
> >
> >--
> >Tom Wilson
> >A Computer Programmer who wishes he'd chosen another vocation.
> 
> There will be no worry about this.  When the emporer takes control
> he will disband the imperial senate!
> 
> I'll throw out my political views now.  Why not.
> 
> I think Gore and Bush need to leave.  I would like 2 actual candidates
> and I don't think much of either one of them.
> 
> Why is it Mc Cain, a vietnam POW, drank urine to stay alive, is
> rejected because he's a liberal/republican.  What rubbish.

Because he was hell-bent on abriding first-amendment rights,
limiting the ability of candidates and citizens to publicize
their views on election issues, turning over all communication
to the leftist Ministries of Propaganda more commonly known as
ABC, CBS, CNN and NBC.

McCain was defeated because his ideas would assure that
ALL opposition to the Democrat party would be effectively
silenced forever.



> 
> And Gore/Clinton, do I really need to type anything here?
> Why do the democrats always pick the most idiotic freak candidates
> they can find?  Why?
> 
> And I agree with your comments.  The Democrats haven't supported
> the middle class in 20 or more years.
> 
> We have become a nation of extremist parties.
> You are either extreme rightwing or your extreme leftwing and
> the middle ground where most of us stand is not being represented.
> 
> This in itself is an extremely dangerous thing.
> 
> Charlie


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Gore & Bush
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:08:45 -0500

Stefan Ohlsson wrote:
> 
> Bob Hauck wrote:
> >On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:38:26 -0500, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>well to be honest the legal system never thought we would have such a
> >>crybaby loser like we have with Gore so b/c of him we are having a 30
> >>day election instead of a 1 day election with some votes counted 5 times
> >>and the other 95% counted once.
> >Gore did win the popular vote nationally, so your man Bush was really
> >the minority choice.  If the tables were turned, would you be telling
> >Bush to concede or would you be insisting that he's only taking
> >advantage of the options available and saying that the electoral
> >college system needs to be thrown out?
> >
> I'm sorry to budge in, but I just want to say what I think of this
> and that is that it is just sad.
> 
> Gore is afraid to lose if a recount isn't made
> Bush is afraid to lose if a recount _is_ made.
> 
> Why couldn't they just have done the recount and then accept the
> result of it? Instead they act like children in a sandbox trying to get
> votes included and excluded, recounts made and disallowed.

There have been TWO recounts already.

On the initial count: Bush won
On the first recount: Bush won
On the second recount: Bush won

How many more do they need?





> 
> Oh well...
> 
> /Stefan
> --
> [ Stefan Ohlsson ]  ·  There will always be survivors - Robert A. Heinlein · []


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:21:23 -0500

Tim Smith wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:38:26 -0500, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >well to be honest the legal system never thought we would have such a
> >crybaby loser like we have with Gore so b/c of him we are having a 30
> >day election instead of a 1 day election with some votes counted 5 times
> >and the other 95% counted once.
> 
> So you think Gore should just give up, even though the difference in the
> current totals is well under the margin of error for the way the votes
> were counted?  There are many sources of errors in vote counting, and

The vote-counting machines are accurate to less than 1 error per MILLION.


According to cnn.com:


FLORIDA VOTE COUNT TOTALS        Nov. 26, 2000

PRESIDENT       Nov. 7          First Recount   Certified
Bush            2,909,176       2,911,872       2,912,790
Gore            2,907,451       2,910,942       2,912,253
Bush Lead       1725            930             537

So, total votes:
                5,816,627       5,822,814       5,825,043


Thus, the margin of error is 5.8, which we can round up to 6.


The closest margin of defeat for Gore is 537, which is almost
100 TIMES THE MARGIN OF ERROR.


The instructions at the polling places EXPLICITLY TELL VOTERS
to make sure that they remove any punch-outs before submitting
their ballot....because THAT IS WHAT CONSTITUTES A ***LEGAL*** vote.


What Gore and company are trying to do is get ballots that
are ***NOT**** ****LEGAL**** Votes counted as votes.

Counting non-legal votes is ILLEGAL.

Anybody who tries to become president using ILLEGAL means
should be put in jail for attempting to overthrow the
Constitutional government.

Since AlGore is currently Vice President, and took an oath
to DEFEND AND UPHOLD the Constitution, then, when this mess
is all over, he should be indicted for conspiring to violate
his oath of office.

After all, the dozens of lawyers who are perpatrating this
fraud was assembled BEFORE the voting even started....all
Gore had to do was pick up the phone and say, "Send the
team down to Florida"





> normally these don't matter, because the difference is big enough that
> even if all the errors went the same way, it would not have made a
> difference.  That's not so in this case.  That fact that every time they
> use a more accurate counting method, the difference narrows, indicates
> that they have not yet found a good procedure.  Gore owes it to those
> who voted for him to keep fighting until there is actually good evidence
> that he is not rightful winner.
> 
> --Tim Smith


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:26:14 -0500

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> 
> Tim Smith wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 18:38:26 -0500, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >well to be honest the legal system never thought we would have such a
> > >crybaby loser like we have with Gore so b/c of him we are having a 30
> > >day election instead of a 1 day election with some votes counted 5 times
> > >and the other 95% counted once.
> >
> > So you think Gore should just give up, even though the difference in the
> > current totals is well under the margin of error for the way the votes
> > were counted?  There are many sources of errors in vote counting, and
> > normally these don't matter, because the difference is big enough that
> > even if all the errors went the same way, it would not have made a
> > difference.  That's not so in this case.  That fact that every time they
> > use a more accurate counting method, the difference narrows, indicates
> > that they have not yet found a good procedure.  Gore owes it to those
> > who voted for him to keep fighting until there is actually good evidence
> > that he is not rightful winner.
> 
> If Bush were on the other side of this count, his party would be just
> as contentious and whiny (you'd see posters like "Bash/Shamey" or
> "Bosh/Shammy" or somesuch).

False Premise.

Republicans obey and respect the laws.

> 
> What the frikkin' pundits don't mention is that, in 1960, when Tricky
> Dick narrowly lost, the Republican party litigated in the same way
> as the Democrats now.

No, they did not.  Nixon conceded before any suits were filed,
even though it was WELL KNOWN that Daley had managed to get
votes out of people who had been dead for years.

> 
> If you want to hear a bunch of people who whine even when they're
> winning, look at the Republicans.

You Demoncrooks are all the same--spend your entire life accusing
Republicans of the sins committed by the Democrats.

Remember slavery and Jim Crow laws...that's the core of Democrat
values...keeping blacks impoverished and uneducated....and it
continues to this day....look at ANY school district controlled
by Democrats, and you will see that the PRIMARY effect is one
of keeping the black children uneducated.

You accuse Republicans of hating blacks...when in actuality,
the largest collection of black-hating racists is in the
leadership of the Democratic party.



> 
> Chris


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WINDOZE is awful
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:27:36 -0500

MH wrote:
> 
> Uh,.. Mr. Conductor sir. Could we stop the train now please?
> I really need to get off now......HURRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Coward.


> 
> > For Bill is a jealous CEO and will abide no other OS before him. And his
> > minions shall smite all others from the land of heads, cylinders, and
> > sectors as they shall find them. And the mouths of the elders shall be
> > bound so no one shall be able to cry out "Foul Monopoly" in the land of
> > marketing, though the bankrupted widows and orphans of the slain shall
> > have no relief. But behold! The High shall be made Low. From out of the
> > Light, mighty Deamons and Penguins appear. They come to pour scented
> > balms upon the wounds of the afflicted. And to bind these wounds whilst
> > asking naught in return but admonish, "Go ye likewise and do unto
> > others."
> >    - Amen -


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dumbing down linux?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:28:53 -0500

SwifT - wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Rodrigo Iglesias wrote:
> 
> >    Even when I prefer that each computer operation (the installation as
> > an example) could be done in two or more ways (console with no
> > assistants and framebuffer as an example), the thing that makes me not
> > liking Redhat are including too experimental code just because of
> > marketing and selling matters. Simply that.
> 
> Although you are correct in comparison with the 7.0-release (who had no
> good reviews at all), the 6.2 was very stable and had no experimental
> RPM's (unless you asked for them). I don't know of the others (<6.2) but
> still...

Every RedHat x.0 release has been a mess.
Every RedHat x.2 release has been a commendable piece of work.

> 
> --
>  SwifT


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 15:30:37 -0500

H Dziardziel wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2 Dec 2000 08:28:22 +0000, Pete Goodwin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Avinash Meetoo wrote:
> >
> >> Many people forget that installing Linux often means installing Linux
> >> while preserving Windows (ie do a dual-boot system). And it's pretty
> >> normal that doing that is more complicated that simply installing
> >> Windows ONLY on a PC.
> >
> >Not that much more complicated.
> >
> >> Those who say that Win installation is a breeze should try to install it
> >> on a Linux PC and try to get a dual boot system...
> >
> >What do you think I am running on now? On one disk is Windows, on the other
> >is Linux. Not that hard at all.
> >
> >--
> >Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2, dual booting with Windows 98 SE.
> >
> Believe most "users" will try to install a second o/s on the same hard
> drive the original is on already, and they probably only have one hdd.
> Dos/win proper will install on any partition or drive but the booting
> defaults to only the first primary on the first drive.  Only clever
> boot managers, software or people,  can work around this- not "normal
> users".  Even two hdd's with the bootable first already with a non-ms
> o/s mean major reconstruction of the boot process and perhaps even
> hardware reconnections etc., all not a normal user procedure.  So, I
> agree Linux is the easier addition but by no means a snap either- no
> multi o/s installation would be.
> 
> Regretfully some of the new Linux distributions also try to take over
> hardrives be default at installation , so also, not "normal user"
> friendly if there is only one drive for the system.

The BEST dual-O/S solution is install Linux on the "normal" boot
partition, and then, through VMWAre, make a Windows installation.
-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 20:33:08 GMT


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:xwqW5.8445$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tom Wilson writes:
>
> > Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >> Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> >>> I wrote:
>
> >>>> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> >>>>>> Donovan Rebbechi writes:
>
> >>>>>>> The movement keys are placed sensibly in vi (hjkl),
>
> >>>>>> Which is not intuitive.  First-time vi users, if they try to do
>
> >>>>> Big fucking deal.  NOTHING about computers is "intuitive"
>
> >>>> Incorrect; consider the power switch.
>
> >>> You'd be surprised....
> >>> Never underestimate the idiot factor.
>
> >> The power switch is NOT "intuitive"
> >>
> >> Proof: put a primative tribesman in a room with electric appliances
> >> and tell him to start the things into operation.
>
> > I'm in agreement.
>
> You shouldn't be.  His example doesn't represent proof for a power
> switch not being intuitive.

I'm agreeing that my choice of "idiot" was wrong. The hypothesis, strange as
it is, points it out. It's a matter of experience and environment, not
intellect. I used the word idiot because I had been trouble-shooting over
the phone to complete morons that evening and had a dim view of humanity as
a result.

>
> > The language I used, in hindsight, was wrong.
>
> That doesn't justify your agreement.

How do you figure? I was agreeing that my wording was off track and Aaron's
post had pointed that out.

>
> > Read: Never underestimate the ignorance factor.
> >
> > I used "idiot" because i'ts been one of those nights...
>
> Go to the store.  Buy a lamp.  Take it home.  Do you consult a manual
> to find out what to do with the cord?  I hope not.  Yet the hypothesized
> "primative tribesman" could have no idea what the cord is for.  Does that
> prove that the power cord is not intuitive?

Oh for God's sake!

His hypothesis was extreme, yes. However, it makes a valid point regarding
experience. You're bordering on anal retention, i'm afraid.


--
Tom Wilson

"Feminists like to set the pace for how women like Mrs. Clinton are judged,
correct?  Well, in recent weeks feminist writers for The Washington Post and
other news outlets have told us that we ought to judge Katherine Harris by
her eyelashes, makeup and wardrobe, and decide based on these criteria that
she cannot be trusted.  So it's apparently okay, once again, to judge a
female politician based on her looks, figure, clothes or makeup. This makes
me think of something we can now say about Mrs. Clinton. In line with the
feminists, I want to be the first to go on record as asserting that we
cannot believe anything Hillary Clinton says, because she has a big broad
beam and elephant ankles - and I want to thank the feminists of America for
agreeing with me. "

-- Rush Limbaugh



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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 20:33:09 GMT


"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tom Wilson wrote:
> >
> > <soapbox>
> >
> > As it stands, they're putting 2002 senate races in jeopardy. Mark my
> > words, the longer this goes on, the more seats they'll lose. Now, any
> > efforts by them to tie up the senate to counter Bush proposals will
appear
> > as more sour grapes. In 2004, they're going to nominate Hillary Clinton.
> > Just watch. It will be an unmitigated disaster!
> >
> > IDIOTS!
> >
> > </soapbox>
>
> Man who stand on soapbox, often slip up.

That's why I limit my time on them....<g>


--
Tom Wilson

"Feminists like to set the pace for how women like Mrs. Clinton are judged,
correct?  Well, in recent weeks feminist writers for The Washington Post and
other news outlets have told us that we ought to judge Katherine Harris by
her eyelashes, makeup and wardrobe, and decide based on these criteria that
she cannot be trusted.  So it's apparently okay, once again, to judge a
female politician based on her looks, figure, clothes or makeup. This makes
me think of something we can now say about Mrs. Clinton. In line with the
feminists, I want to be the first to go on record as asserting that we
cannot believe anything Hillary Clinton says, because she has a big broad
beam and elephant ankles - and I want to thank the feminists of America for
agreeing with me. "

-- Rush Limbaugh



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