Linux-Advocacy Digest #73, Volume #31 Wed, 27 Dec 00 02:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: open source is getting worst with time. ("Les Mikesell")
Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does) (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does) ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Conclusion (sfcybear)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why Advocacy? (Jim Broughton)
Re: Windows 2000 ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: My experiance with win98 and SCSI vs Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: My experiance with win98 and SCSI vs Linux (Cannon Fodder)
Re: Windows - Is It Really Easier to Use? (J Sloan)
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 05:55:59 GMT
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> Linux's collection of User interfaces suck. KDE2 goes a long way into
> reducing the amount of "suck" in it, and Enlightenment goes even further, to
> add "eye-candy", but the resulting UI's don't go into adding FUNCTIONALITY
> that is substantial to the previous revisions of KDE and Gnome &
> Enlightenment (or sawmill).
Please elaborate on your conception of FUNCTIONALITY? The only
thing I notice about GNOME is that there's no system-wide clipboard.
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open source is getting worst with time.
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:04:02 GMT
"Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> >
> > If you go to http://www.gnome.org you will see that 0.7.11 is old and
> > newer one exist. But the new one I can't install becuase it needs a new
> > rpm version that my current rpm will not install becuase I can't install
> > a package that the new rpm needs, becuase the package needs the
> > new rpm to install it which my old rpm can;t install.
> >
>
> ok, so someone found out u can get the latest version of abiword with V3
> of RPM.
>
> So what is the guy to do if that latest version of abiword with V3 of
> RPM could not be found or what is he supposed to do if he runs into this
> problem again with having to upgrade RPM but the package he needs to
> upgrade it with is an RPM and needs the newest version of RPM to
> install, which is what he was trying to upgrade in the first place?
>
> catch 22 anyone?
This is *the* reason for advocating source distribution after all. Note
the topic in the subject...
On the Abisource download web page there are links for versions
prebuilt for assorted distributions and one clearly listed as:
TAR -- works anywhere.
This whole rant claiming open source has problems is really about
refusal to use open source. You don't need to know anything to
install it either - an 'install.sh' script is included that does it all.
> i had a similar run around with trying to get the avi plugin for xmms
> working. I needed the sdl-config script for the avi plugin to compile.
> I had SDL installed but did not the script for some reason so i had to
> take time finding, downloading, and then installing SDL. Then I went
> back to avi plugin and started to compiled it over again since I had the
> file it needed. After that I believe I ran into another similar snag
> before I actually got the avi plugin compiled. All that to watch
> movies.
Wouldn't this have been avoided by building the source distributio00 0ourself too?
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:05:28 GMT
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> The reason BSD users dislike Linux is multi-faceted.
[xnip]
Thanks for that analysis, Erik. It is very helpful.
(No sarcasm whatsoever; it was very helpful.)
Chris
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does)
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:08:19 GMT
"Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> >
> > Five years.
> >
> > And I still see the horrible RedHat Linux "Control Panel" is still
> > lingering.
> >
> > Although there are some advantages to the Control Panel, Linuxconf has
> > pretty much overridden it in functionality and features, making the
Control
> > Panel items useless.
>
> I use them a lot. Linuxconf doesn't let you control the
>
> background
> panel
> screensaver
> theme selector
> window manager
> MIME types
> URL handlers
> Window manager behavior (and its 11 items)
> User interface.
>
> Do you really /use/ Linux?
'Window manager' behavior? Which window manager? Are you recommending
forcing everyone to use a single window manager or teaching Linuxconf to
configure all possible window managers? Do you really have a hard time
finding the place to control these in KDE or GNOME?
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:16:31 GMT
"John W. Stevens" wrote:
>
> "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> >
> > Said Tom Wilson in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 04 Dec 2000 05:42:26
> > [...]
> > >Rush is loud, obnoxious, pompous, opinionated and , more often than not,
> > >absolutely right in what he says.
> >
> > Think harder.
>
> Typical, elistist posting:
>
> "If you don't agree with my opinion of Rush, you just aren't as
> intelligent as me, or you just aren't thinking at all."
>
> Did it ever occur to you that people just as intelligent as yourself
> could listen to Rush, think about what he says . . . and agree with him?
After having heard that bastard ad nauseum while confined to a lab that
had him blaring over the radio, over the span of nearly a year,
no. In that whole time, he said almost nothing sensible. He's as
close to an idiot as you can get the sponsors to support.
Even G. Gordon Liddy makes more sense than Rush. I'd rather listen
to that strident harpy, Laura Schlesinger.
Chris
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:18:47 GMT
"John W. Stevens" wrote:
>
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >
> > JS/PL wrote:
> > >
> > > Does Rush Limbaughs truth spewing feel like holy water on a vampire? It does
> > > seem to have that effect on the most extreme socialists who's one true enemy
> > > IS TRUTH.
> >
> > So where does Rush Limbaugh come in with this "truth" thing?
> >
> > You can always tell when he's lying... the sentence starts with "Trust me on
> > this, ladies and gentlemen." I don't know how people can listen to that
> > birdbrain for anything except the same kind of entertainment they'd get
> > from Jerry Springer or Judge Harlan. The man is cognitive dissonance personified.
>
> And yet . . . you failed utterly to refute what he said on his two web
> pages.
>
> Sarah Jessica Parker was spewing the usual FUD that liberals do, about
> conservatives.
>
> The deafening silence about the Hillary book deal is simply the
> par-for-the-course-hypocrisy you expect to get from Democrats.
>
> As someone who almost never listens to Rush, I was neutral on him until
> your postings . . . now, after scanning through his web site, and
> listening to him for a few days, I'm intrigued.
>
> I'll have to go buy his books, now . . . and start listening to his
> radio show.
>
> Thanks for turning me on to him!
Good, one more fruit wombat distracted by Rush's blatherings.
I went to his web site, and came back very disturbed by the
type of paranoia and bigotry I found at alt.rush-limbaugh.
Unsubscribed now.
Of course, if you like him, he must be smart. Yeah!
Chris
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From: sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Conclusion
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:10:03 GMT
In article <HJ816.23912$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "sfcybear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:922una$iep$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <VgV06.21734$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > "sfcybear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:91vpdg$967$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > In article <ZGy06.16247$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > > "Chad C. Mulligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > <trimmed>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And Ghost in the Machine, and several others.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You are also forgetting the *Documented Fact* that
WWW.UPTIMES.ORG a
> > > > second METHOD of gathering stats, gives the same results. BOTH
> > indicate
> > > > w2K is UNSTABLE!
> > > >
> > >
> > > Or they both cannot get the correct metrics from the machine. By
> > default
> > > performance metrics are only available to authenticated
> > administrators.
> >
> > Prove that the software that gets loaded for the Uptimes tracking
can
> > not track the actual uptime for the server it is on. After all, if
it
> > relied on the metrics that are available from NT, the NT boxes in
the to
> > 100 would not be there. They would have rolled over at 49.7 days.
Just
> > as the default metric on NT always does! The uptime used by Uptimes
does
> > not use the standard metric. and that does not make them wrong.
infact
> > it gets past the limitations of MS softare.
> >
>
> OK, How? In detail please. So far your arguments are repeated
conjecture
> even in the face of some convicing contrary and independently
corroborated
> (use your dictionary) evidence.
>
What convincing contrary evidence? The W2K people have made Nothing but
claims and have posted NOT corroborating evidence independent or
otherwise.
Here is independent evidence the supports my claim that w2k is unstable:
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.microsoft.com
Even MS has problems keeping W2K up and running! Just over 12 days
average uptime!
But no supprise since another independent source of evidence that shows
w2k is unstable is www.uptimes.org. Remeber that it was clearly shown,
using Uptimes numbers, that taking ALL of the up time for ALL the MS
OS's an attributing ALL that uptime to W2K alone (just over 1/2 of the
MS OS's reporting) W2K's average uptime makes it up to about 35 days!
And that's using ALL of the uptime from ALL of the MS OS's reporting to
Uptimes. That comes to around 1/2 the average uptime of Linux!
Don't bitch at me. THat's 2 independent sources using 2 different
methods of gathering data and BOTH show that w2k is not stable!
Still no true independent sources from you or the other W2K'ers, just
unsupported claims!
come on, post some proof if you can little boy.
> >
> > >
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:20:02 GMT
"John W. Stevens" wrote:
>
> Nope. According to the liberals, this is a not a right, therefore,
> restricting or reducing this, can't be a reduction in personal liberty.
>
> Can you say: "New Speak"?
You mean "Newt Speak"? Don't hear much from that fucker anymore, do ya?
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 01:30:26 -0500
billh wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>
> > Tell us again about your theory that German, Japanese, North Korean,
> > Chinese, VietCong, and North Vietnamese troops ALL obeyed the
> > Geneva Convention and NEVER fired at American medics.
>
> Again? I never commented one way or the other. Grow up a mature a bit,
> wannabe.
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,us.military.army
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 01:30:42 -0500
billh wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>
> > > > Tell us again about your theory that German, Japanese, North Korean,
> > > > Chinese, VietCong, and North Vietnamese troops ALL obeyed the
> > > > Geneva Convention and NEVER fired at American medics.
> > >
> > > Having trouble staying on topic again, eh, "reading comprehension boy"?
> >
> > Having trouble remembering your lies again, eh captain disgraced?
>
> Never said it KuKu. You never have and never will be able to prove
> otherwise. You, wannabe, remain delusional.
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Jim Broughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Advocacy?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:33:19 GMT
pip wrote:
>
>
>
> This is unfair. Take USB, as Xmas has passed I now have a USB mouse
> which worked fine under windows, yet I know that I really don't want the
> pain of configuring USB under Linux and would prefer to wait until 2.4.
> Linux is a better OS technically, but many end users are not as
> concerned if it does not easily support hardware and perhaps more
> importantly software. Linux will in time.
Hmmm I have found usb under windows to be more hassle than it is worth
and
that is only trying to connect a mouse and keyboard.
When the 2.2.18 kernel came out with USB support I compiled it in.
It recognized my mouse and keyboard right away. They have both worked
flawlessly since then. The down side for newbies would be the creation
of new device nodes in the /dev directory (it is documented though and
very easy to follow)
>
> Games! Also some very neat software is not yet available for Linux.
> Putting on my programmers hat: there is NO reason why I would want to
> program under windows unless I am getting paid for doing so (apart from
> the "better" ide's). Putting on a sys-admin hat there is also NO reason
> why someone should want Windows other than if they can't be bothered to
> learn new things.
I will admit that windows has it all over linux as far as games are
concerned BUT UnrealTournament still runs faster under linux with
the nvidia drivers and a gforce2. (games are getting better under
linux thanks to loki.)
--
Jim Broughton
(The AmigaOS now there was an OS!)
If Sense were common everyone would have it!
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 01:39:46 -0500
El Carpa wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > Out of curiosity, what do Linux users feel about this OS?
>
> Pretty good as a workstation. Linux is way better for server porposes.
> IMHO, of course.
> >
> > Do they hate it or admire it?
>
> Having used workstations based on windows 95, NT4 and 2000, I'd say I
> admire it. But if you have to install and mantain a server, linux is
> *very* easy compared to windows....
>
> >
> > Hate because its MS
>
> No, that's not a reason.
>
> >
> > or
> > Admire cos it is an OS that is comparable with Linux?
>
> Comparable with linux? As I stated before, I'd say it's even better than
> linux for the standard users that need office apps, internet apps and
> the point-and-click ease of use.
Not any more...
Star Office
Abi Word
K Office
Kommander
> But I think that linux is way better for virtually any other use....
>
> --
> After three days in the desert fun
> I was looking at a river bed
> And the story it told of a river that flowed
> Made me sad to think it was dead
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My experiance with win98 and SCSI vs Linux
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 01:43:56 -0500
genkai wa doko da wrote:
>
> I don't even know why I am posting except it's something to do on a
> cold night after tooling on a disagreeable computer all day.
>
> I have right now 5 SCSI cards, I have gotten them over the last 3 years
> in varying ways from throw aways to paying small amounts of cash ($16 or
> less) all of them work under linux fine, some better than others, but
> what can you do, they read and write from/to a disk, what more could you
> want?
>
> Of these hosts 4 of them will not work with win98 under any
> swapping/removal of other cards in the same machine. The hosts are as
> follows:
>
> Adaptec 2940U (bios v1.23S3) Compaq OEM I believe (PCI)
> Asus PC-2000 NCR53C810 Based controller (PCI)
> Always in2000 (16 bit ISA)
> Mediavision PAS16 (combo scsi+soundcard 16 bit ISA)
> Future Domain TMC-845 (8 bit ISA)
>
> The only one that works in Windows for me is the 8 Bit ISA card.
> Now obviously all these cards are supported under Windows but even with
> a clean OS install, juggling of CMOS reserved IRQ settings, different
> motherboards altogether, installing the newest drivers, etc. I'm no
> slouch when it comes to puzzling out problems and this is just a total
> puzzle. All I can say is viva Linux (and Unix in general!) I'm not even
> a great advocate of Linux I don't _care_ if other people use it. I'm
> just as happy tinkering on an Amiga or Sparc or VAX (which you'll notice
> Linux runs (to some degree) on all 3 of these platforms but that's not
> my point ;)
>
> Anyone else have far greater 'luck' with expansion cards under Linux vs
> Windows?
Since LoseDOS is incapable of interleaving read/write requests,
what's the point of putting SCSI in a LoseDOS machine in the first place????
>
> brian
>
> --
> RCS/RI, Retro Computing Society: http://www.osfn.org/rcs/
> RIFUG, RI Free Unix Group: http://www.rifug.org/
> Dropdead, my band: http://www.dropdead.org/
> my videogame stuff: http://www.gloom.org/~gauze/
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Cannon Fodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My experiance with win98 and SCSI vs Linux
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:46:22 GMT
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, genkai wa doko da wrote:
>but what can you do, they read and write from/to a disk, what
>more could you want?
Hardware-based RAID 5 :) 6$$.$$ (Cdn) :(
>
>Anyone else have far greater 'luck' with expansion cards under Linux vs
>Windows?
>
>
I've only used SCSI-based systems with Linux, sorry. As a
result, I have no idea how well SCSI adaptors work under Windows.
Some people and I did have one problem once with an integrated
Adaptec 2940UW and an Adaptec 2940UW PCI card once. The PCI SCSI
adaptor kept frying its hard drive(s) as far as I could
tell...but I left the company before the matter was resolved to
my satisfaction...hmmm, but come to think of it I could still
find out if they tracked down the problem.
The system was using RH5.2. I had to yank out the 'fried' (it
smelled like chicken) hard drive and disable the PCI SCSI BIOS.
I intentionally left the hard drive blank during the OS
installation because of the previous failures. A computer staff
person tried to 'cd' to the blank hard drive and that's when it
hung the system and had to be removed. I know it was
hardware-related because a separate group of people tried to use
Solaris Unix with the two previous hard drives. I argued (even
before the third failure) that there was something wrong with the
PCI SCSI card but they proffessionally disagreed with me.
One possible clue as to what happened might have been related to
the differing SCSI bus standards. It's possible that the Adaptec
2940UW could only handle UW-SCSI or SCSI (without extra emulation
software) and some more proprietary standards with the emulation
in place. However, the Seagate Barracuda HDs we were using were
SCSI-2 and the Adaptec SCSI adaptors were using no emulation
whatsoever. So now I'm wondering, can Adaptec UW2940s handle
SCSI-2 HDs or will they throw a fit?
Thoughts?
CF
------------------------------
From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows - Is It Really Easier to Use?
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 06:58:15 GMT
Todd wrote:
> All of the small, strange little commands that have to be memorized... is
> easier than Windows?
No more than all the strange little commands you have
to know to do much in windows....
> Yes, but to get actual work done out there in the industry,
Don't know quite how to break this to you bubba, but
I am working in the industry -
> you need to be able to use Office 2000
I can run office 2000 in Linux if I want, using win4lin
or vmware - but in actual practice, it's a lot easier
to just run star office...
> build quick applications usingASP/ADO/XML/HTML/ETC,
Your view of active server pages being of central importance
is quaint, and reveals a rather naive microsoft-centric world
view. As a webmaster, I use mod_perl, php, java and other
current tools. Active server pages are irrelevant, and I have
never used them. Like most webmasters, my servers run
apache on Unix.
> Because I use RedHat, and I do not like how Linux Lunatics are so religious
> about Linux...
Like you are about windows?
> which is not even close to refinement as Windows 2000 is,
Oh windows 2000 is cute, I'll give it that, but I prefer Linux, sorry.
> nor
> as powerful (as shown be *audited* 3rd party benchmarks, over and over).
Apparently you are unaware that Linux soundly trounces w2k
on equivalent hardware on the specweb 99 web server tests?
Linux is faster than windows in single, dual, quad and 8 CPU
configurations, and the Linux performance lead gets wider as
more CPUs are added -
At this point you'll probably trot out the old mindcraft spiel?
Cheers,
jjs
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