Linux-Advocacy Digest #203, Volume #31 Tue, 2 Jan 01 22:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Nobody wants LoseDOS because it destroys hard disks. ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft is 20-years BEHIND other OS vendors ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge (Bob Hauck)
Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge (Bob Hauck)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (Bob Hauck)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (Bob Hauck)
Re: Is Bill Gates MAD?!?!? (Bob Hauck)
Re: linux price? (Bob Hauck)
Re: Linux vs Microsoft (Bob Hauck)
Re: Linux vs Microsoft (Bob Hauck)
Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 21:27:32 -0500
Martin Eden wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> > Martin Eden wrote:
> > >
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > goodbye, moron.
> > > > >
> > > > > *PLONK*
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Translation: Keldon Warlard realizes he's been outsmarted.
> > > >
> > >
> > > By someone who (by his own admission) can't get Windows to start up?
> >
> > IF Windows crashes on boot up, that's not MY fault,
>
> Considering that I am one of about three million consumers who doesn't have
> this problem, I'd say the facts are on my side...I'd offer to help you but
> you seem to be posting with it now. Glad you are enjoying the wonderful
> world of Microsoft.
>
> >moron.
>
> You seem upset 8*) That's good: it means I hit the nail on the head.
The only thing that upsets me is the fact that Windows is a piece of shit.
If that's your idead of good, then you have a real fucking problem.
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I'd say you two are in a league of your own 8*)
> >
> > Windows crappy behavior is universally recognized by all but a few
> > LYING zealots like yourself.
>
> Wow! A zealot! A liar! Care to back up your random accusations with facts;
Your words speak for themselves.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Nobody wants LoseDOS because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:29:37 GMT
Really?
Ok, tell my cmd interpreter that I'm lying.
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> >
> > Typing "help" under the console seems to bring up a list of commands.
> >
>
> liar
>
> > Running text mode apps helps too.
> >
> > "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:Orf46.53155$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Where do I find documentation for all the new things that can be
> > > done from the command line? The help system doesn't seem to
> > > know anything about them.
> > >
> > > NOTE: adding to the top of a post instead of the bottom leads to
> > > post snipping.
> > >
> > > "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:HXe46.115787$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Windows 2000: Professional w/Telnet service.
> > > >
> > > > NOTE: Post snipping can lead to misinformation.
> > > >
> > > > "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:ePe46.53150$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:OTa46.115564$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > Yea, 20 years too late.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The point was you were exclaiming that Windows DIDN'T have the
> > ability
> > > > to
> > > > > > mimic the functionality provided by telnet and a UNIX shell
> > > interpreter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It clearly does.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And you change the subject.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Big surprise.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which version of Windows?
> > > > >
> > > > > Les Mikesell
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 21:36:40 -0500
"Form@C" wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> <snip>
> >
> >> Many of these people don't know what a CLI is remember,
> >> never
> >> mind how to use one!
> >
> >That's their own fault.
> >
>
> Why is it that that was exactly the sort of idiotic remark that I have come
> to expect from you? I was rather hoping that you had more sense.
>
> Are you completely unwilling to accept that the majority of computer users
> just don't care about operating systems?
Hey...I bought a new car....and, whaddya know, the engine blew out because
it used up all the oil?
Why the fuck should I have to learn about oil?
Hey...I had a car...and the breaks started making noise...and then two
weeks later, i crashed right through the back of the garage....it wouldn't
stop for nothing! What the fuck?
Did it ever occur to you that REGARDLESS of whether the majority of users
"care about" operating systems or not...anybody who uses a computer has
a de-facto responsibility to learn whatever is necessary to do what
they need to do.
Microsoft makes a lot of money on a BIG BIG BIG LIE that the amount of
"necessary" knowledge approaches zero.
Nothing could be farther from the truth. The amount of inane, trivial,
"special case" information you need to know about a Microsoft system is
HUGE compared to a Unix or Linux system.
> That, for them, the best operating
> system of all is completely invisible? That the command line interface is
> of absolutely no use whatever to them? Do you happen to have tweaked the
> source code of the electronic engine controller in your car via its CLI? Do
> you install regular security updates into your mobile phone?
>
> Don't show youself up. The contributors to this group have one thing in
> common. They all know, in approximate terms anyway, what an OS is and what
> it is used for. We are *not* representative of the majority of desktop
> computer users.
Most of what I see coming from YOU and the others in the LoseDOS camp
indicates that you don't know fuck about operating systems.
>
> For the end user anything which gets in the way of the application which
> he/she is using is *wrong*. In other words, if you need to control the OS
> directly to start, use or end an application then that OS is a bad one.
>
> Even installing and removing software is only acceptable as a function of
> the OS if it is carried out by someone trained for the task - not the
> application user.
And yet, Microsoft ENCOURAGES exactly this. Why is that?
> If desktop shortcuts to scripts on a GUI interface do
> this then fine, the user can do it. But those routines have to be as bomb-
> proof as possible!
And your point is?
>
> Are you seriously saying that a business should train every one of its
> computer users to use a CLI?
Strawman argument, and you know it, shit-head.
I'm saying that hobbling the CLI like Microsoft does CONSIDERABLY
LIMITS the maximum productivity of the average user.
the Microsoft UI is aimed at the novice user. For exactly how many
years (decades now) is a user supposed to be treated as a newbie????
Denying the user a CLI basically means keeping the User in a state
of novice-dom forever...
Are you seriously saying that a business should deploy an OS that allows
ANY untrained user to fuck around with the system, as if he/she were an
admin?
> That if those users can't use a CLI then they
> are in the wrong job because "That's their own fault"? Just think beyond
> your own, blinkered vision in your ivory tower. There are *millions* of
> computer users out there! Microsoft has produced a nice, comfortable
> interface to the OS for them. How do you expect to entice them away from it
> and back to a command line? Do you really think that businesses care *how*
> their word processors work as long as the *do*, as cheaply as possible and
> with the absolute minimum of training?
>
> CLIs are great for servers. Currently you *need* the control that they can
> give - a GUI can help with the more mundane tasks though. Please don't take
> us back to the time of DOS though, when everything was done through a CLI
> and batch files. We have progressed a long way since then, lets *use* the
> technology to its best advantage, by *improving* the user interface and
> hiding the OS as much as possible.
>
> --
> Mick
> Olde Nascom Computers - http://www.mixtel.co.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Microsoft is 20-years BEHIND other OS vendors
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 21:38:05 -0500
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> > >
> > > Yea, 20 years too late.
> >
> > And yet, you claim that MS is "modern", when they are just now
> > implementing technology which has been standard on every other
> > platform since the 1970's.
>
> Kyle do exhibit patchy knowledge, doodn't he?
He only know those things that were explicitly given to him on
a silver platter to point-drool, and click on.
This, of course, is the sign of a severely under-developed mind.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:44:18 GMT
On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 04:02:59 +0200, Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 14:21:53 +0200, Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>
>> > Making a counter is not a trivial task to most people.
>>
>> Yes, that's why most reputable ISP's and web hosting companies provide
>> one.
>I'm not aware of such an offer on my ISPs (first or secord and third
>largest in the country), but I'm using them for home uses,
Hmmm...I was pretty familiar with about four ISP's back in Utah (as I
knew the owners personally) and all of them offered some kind of counter
thing. Did you ask them? Sometimes they don't go out of their way to
advertise it.
My site is currently on Hurricane Electric, and I think they have one
too, but since I don't use a counter I haven't investigated. Counters
are lame.
>And I've recently been hired to do a site hosted at one of the largest
>bussiness oriented ISPs here, it was a *horrible* experiance.
[no telnet]
>The reason I was given? It's not safe to do so.
Well, it isn't. Clear text passwords. Plus lots of ISP's don't like
shell accounts either because of the cracker factor (it is much harder
to secure a server that has shell users). Be that as it may, a place
that is after business web sites and charges business rates really ought
to offer them anyway and live with the admin overhead of keeping up with
patches. Not doing that equals not giving the customer his money's
worth.
Sounds like I would have been unhappy with them as well.
>Turned out that they don't support PHP or any other web languague on their
>Solaris box.
Hurricane Electric <http://www.he.net/>. They run Linux (it appears to
be Slackware with a number of hardening patches) and offer PHP, cgi-bin,
and MySQL. They provide shell accounts with ssh and telnet access plus
log summaries available via web. No rsync, but I was able to install my
own copy, so I've got automated mirroring from the copy of the site on
one of my home machines.
>It wasn't hard to convince the client to move the site to an NT box to get
>dynamic content for the site, even thought I'd to redo half my work because
>of it.
I suppose not. But that's a failing of the provider you had, not
Solaris per se. Sounds like a half-assed operation to me.
>This isn't a story bashing *nix vs NT/2K or whatever, this is just an
>example to show you that ISPs aren't the same everywhere.
Of course not. That's why there is more than one <g>.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Profitability of Linux being a challenge
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:44:20 GMT
On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 03:10:52 -0500, JSPL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 18:55:33 GMT, Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>
>> >I'm still skeptical. Why then are Linux books such a large segment of
>> >computer books in the bookstores nowadays?
>> Because there's a market! Contrary to what some WinZealots want us to
>> think, people are using Linux.
>
>I just dis a search at Amazon.com for the keywords "microsoft windows" and
>it shows 3589 matches. I then did a search for "linux" and that keyword
>recieved 510 matches.
I wouldn't expect there to be even 1/3 of the number of Linux books as
Windows ones, given the relative market shares. But I'd say 510 books
is a pretty healthy number and indicates a real market. It is more than
I would have guessed, actually.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:44:22 GMT
On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:37:16 -0500, JSPL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 01:28:58 GMT, Chad Myers
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> >> No, you claimed that the Democrats were trying to "subvert the rule of
>> >> law."
>> >
>> >Which they were. You didn't even answer the claims, instead stooping to
>> >name calling.
>> Maybe I missed a civics lesson someplace where they defined lawsuits as
>> "subversion".
>
>Well lets see, a law on the books in Florida stated that the the Secretary
>of State SHALL certify the results by a certain date. The Florida Supreme
>court issued an order stating that the Secretary of State SHALL NOT certify
>by that date. I'd call that "subverting" the existing law, not
>"interpreting" it.
I disagree, but for the purposes of this post lets say you're right.
Wouldn't it then be the Florida Supreme Court subverting the law rather
than the Democrats? Shouldn't you be up in arms about their actions
rather than those of the Democratic Party, who merely brought the suit
but did not make the ruling?
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:44:24 GMT
On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 03:45:32 GMT, Chad Myers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Max, open your eyes, seriously. The FL Supreme Court overstepped
>it's bounds TWICE and became activists and started writing laws on
>the fly. This was proven TWICE in the U.S. Supreme Court.
I'm not Max, but I have to ask...
So why are you harping on the Democrats? They just brought the suit, as
anybody with standing can do. They didn't make the ruling. Seems to me
you ought to be dissing the court and calling for their impeachment
rather than complaining about the Democrats. According to you, it was
the court that subverted the law, not the Democrats, unless you want to
say that merely asking the court to make a ruling is "subversion".
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Is Bill Gates MAD?!?!?
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:44:26 GMT
On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 18:22:36 GMT, Charlie Ebert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Most crazy people have a obsession for the thing their crazy
>about. Adolf and Eva had a special lamp. Bill Gates has
>a special house.
What about Larry with his reproduction 16th century Japanese house built
with no nails? He must be a lunatic...oh, wait, he is <g>.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: linux price?
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:44:28 GMT
On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 19:15:15 GMT, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Redhat is always available for free, as are mandrake,
>debian, slackware and some others. Caldera and Suse
>I think are only offering evaluation versions for free, but
>the distros are available for around $30-$40.
Caldera has ISO images on their ftp site.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Linux vs Microsoft
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:44:30 GMT
On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 11:29:54 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Honestly, have any of you really fairly tested Windows 2000 with service
>pack 1? How about Windows 2000 DataCenter?
Why? What's it do for me that Linux doesn't, and specifially what does
it do that's worth 10x the price? You might also explain why I should
keep buying from a vendor that has repeatedly sold me substandard goods.
I don't want to play any more.
And you gotta be kidding about DataCenter. What do I need _that_ for?
I've got a little home network here, and a small development lab at work.
>My RedHat 7.0 is far, far from ideal....
Red Hat has a history with .0 releases. But they also have a history of
fixing them.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Linux vs Microsoft
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 02:44:32 GMT
On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 02:52:56 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Who cares? When it is released, it will work, unlike MS who delays and
>> delays, and eventually releases a buggy project because Marketing says
>> it has too.
>
>Oh, that must be why there were something like 6 or so kernel patches
>released within weeks of 2.2's release.
Yup. Linux Marketing told Linus to release it "or else".
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 21:40:49 -0500
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> > >
> > > But a platform really is only as good as the programs that are for it. Look
> > > at OS/2 Warp. As near as I can recall, it was a pure32 bit OS when Windows
> > > 95 came out, and yet, look what dominated the desktop. Windows. Why?
> > > Windows had the better programs.
>
> By this criterion, then Win98 is better than WinNT or 2000, since it runs
> more (and presumably better) programs.
>
> > We heard these same claims when NT4 was released...and it failed to
> > deliver.
> >
> > Why should anybody believe this load of shit again?
>
> Experience, mainly. Win 2000 /is/ an improvement.
Winning the "Tallest Midget" contest is NOT victory.
> Still not so pleasant
> in daily use, as it is slow in some thing, and bloated.
>
> One sneaky thing Microsoft has done is gotten people to say "Windows",
> one word, when there really are many separate products with different
> strengths and weaknesses: 95, 98, NT, NT Server, 2000 Pro, 2000 Server,
> 2000 Advanced Server, and 2000 Datacenter Server.
This is why anybody who believes even one sentance of an official
microsoft statement should have his head examined.
>
> The price tag goes up and up from left to right, but the Winboyz
> can brag about features found in 2000 Server as if they were found in
> all versions of Windozzzzzzzzzzzzz.
>
> Chris
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft?
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 21:42:36 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <92tmli$ojd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> hackerbabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A quote from http://microsoft.aynrand.org/hate.html, referring to why
> > Microsoft has been persecuted in the anti-trust trial:
> >
> > "There is only one fundamental reason why great businessmen [like Bill
> > Gates]
>
> ...or Al Capone, or Manuel Noriega, or John Gotti...
>
> > or great companies [like Microsoft]
>
> ... or the Mafia, or the Medellin cartel, or the Hell's Angels...
>
> > are hated, and it has
> > nothing to do with so-called monopolies. [Microsoft is] hated . . .
> > because [it is] good, that is, smarter, more visionary, more creative,
> > more tenacious, more action-focused, more ambitious, and more
> > successful than everyone else.
>
> Bullshit. It's because they fucking broke the law.
Repeatedly
With deliberate intent
And in violation of previous court orders to obey the law.
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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