Linux-Advocacy Digest #231, Volume #31 Thu, 4 Jan 01 00:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Why Hatred? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Conclusion (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft? (Charlie Ebert)
Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code (Charlie Ebert)
Re: OEditors: Xedit vs. vi or emacs (Gary Hallock)
Re: Could only... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? (Gary Hallock)
Re: Uptimes (Charlie Ebert)
Re: open source is getting worst with time. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Hatred?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 22:59:10 -0500
Craig Kelley wrote:
>
> "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "Nick Condon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > >
> > > > Any script you can write in Unix can be written for Windows as well.
> > >
> > > *SNORT*
> > > [Damn, now I'm going have to clean coffee off my screen and keyboard]
> > >
> > > That's good. That's really good. I think you have that sentence in your
> > sig. I
> > > think you should get a T shirt with it on. In fact I think I'll put it in
> > my
> > > sig.
> >
> > If you don't believe it. Name a script in Unix that can't be done on
> > Windows.
>
> It's not a matter of can't, it's a matter of having to resort to a C
> compiler and installing 3rd-party tools. Even then, I doubt that you
> can, say, pipe the output of an arbitrary script as an email to
> someone (not even a one-liner under UNIX).
>
> NT is object-oriented (or tries to be) -- and as such, doesn't lend
> itself to serializing easily.
>
> UNIX is based on pipes and files -- and as such, is superb at
> scripting at the expense of embeddability or inheritence.
Unix *IS* object oriented. It has been so ever since its inception.
The only thing is, back in 1970, the term "object oriented" didn't
exist.
So...in Unix, objects are called "files". Every file in Unix is
actually an object.
>
> Now, if NT had cooler embedded tools and neat-o inheritence, you'd
> have something to tout; but it has neither at the "scripting level".
> The object oriented nature of NT *does* make for cool component
> architectures like COM and it's children; things like this are being
> re-invented for UNIX (KOM and Bonobo) because they are so cool.
>
> (and, I have yet to see an NT script from anyone other than UNIX
> people using NT -- most MCSEs resort to VB)
That's because MCSE = brainwashing victim.
>
> --
> The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Conclusion
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 04:02:36 GMT
In article <G_P46.2180$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chad Myers wrote:
>
>"Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:9306lc$5sc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> "T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > Said Ayende Rahien in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:42:16
>> > >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > >> Said Ayende Rahien in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 2 Jan 2001
>> 20:15:50
>> > >> [...]
>> > >> >> >Found another one.
>> > >> >> >www.walmart.com
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Another one WHAT, Ayende?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Check this one in netcraft.
>> > >>
>> > >> Why?
>> > >
>> > >Adam Ruth asked about sites which displayed unbelivable resutls.
>> > >I gave two so far.
>> > >
>> > >Netware + IIS
>> > >Linux + IIS
>> >
>> > Adam Ruth asked for sites which displayed inaccurate uptimes, and has
>> > pointedly, specifically, and repeatedly mentioned that 'unbelievable
>> > results' are not at all interesting in this regard.
>> >
>> > Perhaps some web designers somewhere have discovered that there are
>> > certain Microsoft software products which do not behave correctly unless
>> > the server identifies itself as "IIS" in the HTTP header strings. I
>> > think this is an ominous possibility, for what I hope would be obvious
>> > reasons.
>>
>> You do realize that <non windows>+IIS is the *only* thing we can identify as
>> wrong, do you?
>> And I'm not aware of a single reason that would require you to fake your
>> server.
>> Aside perhaps to hide your true server, which might offer some (very little)
>> protection from hackers.
>
>T. Max is just waxing moronic again. This just proves, again, that Netcraft
>has no accurate way of determining what is just a firewall/loadbalancer/server-
>side-cache and what is actually a web server. The uptimes reported could be
>from any machine in the chain.
>
>-Chad
>
>
Missing!@ Chad Myers
He was last seen debating politics on COLA right after being
a WINTROL and he hasn't been seen since.
There was an unoffical report that he was seen actually debating
another WINTROL on COLA but this has not been confirmed.
Anyone with knowledge to the whereabouts of Chad Myers, WINTROL
please post message to this newgroup ASAP.
Thank you for your help.
Charlie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft?
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 04:06:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>Todd wrote:
>>
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:92tuuv$vkf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > In article <92tmli$ojd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> > hackerbabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > A quote from http://microsoft.aynrand.org/hate.html, referring to why
>> > > Microsoft has been persecuted in the anti-trust trial:
>> > >
>> > > "There is only one fundamental reason why great businessmen [like Bill
>> > > Gates]
>> >
>> > ...or Al Capone, or Manuel Noriega, or John Gotti...
>> >
>> > > or great companies [like Microsoft]
>> >
>> > ... or the Mafia, or the Medellin cartel, or the Hell's Angels...
>> >
>> > > are hated, and it has
>> > > nothing to do with so-called monopolies. [Microsoft is] hated . . .
>> > > because [it is] good, that is, smarter, more visionary, more creative,
>> > > more tenacious, more action-focused, more ambitious, and more
>> > > successful than everyone else.
>> >
>> > Bullshit. It's because they fucking broke the law.
>>
>> Nope... appeals *will* overturn the verdict.
>
>
>You fucking dumbass. MS did NOT appeal the verdict.
> They appealed the SENTANCE.
>
>They're guilty as sin, and they know it.
>They're just pissed that the judge handed down punishment which
>will actually put a stop the the criminal activity.
>
>
>> MS did not break the law.
>
>That strange...by failing to appeal the finding of guilt,
>MS's lawyers admit that, in fact, MS DID BREAK THE LAW.
>( 60 counts, no less!)
>
>
>
>>
>> -Todd
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent via Deja.com
>> > http://www.deja.com/
>
>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
I end up having to explain this to WINTROL'S EITHER ON OR OFF COLA!
Microsoft HAS BEEN CONVICTED. Their TRIAL IS OVER.
What Microsoft is trying to do is just what ARK is saying here,
they are appealing their sentence. They are not asking for a
re-trial but rather they are appealing their sentence.
And because people are confused as to whether or not this is
a re-trial, many people believe the charges will be reversed.
If it WERE a re-trial this might actually happen with luck.
But since it is NOT a re-trial then Microsoft is actually going
to get split up. And this is why you've seen all those newstories
from various editors and other authors about the impact of the
MICROSOFT BREAKUP as it's impending.
There is nothing which will change this.
Charlie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 04:09:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
HOLD IT!
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Peter Hayes
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
>on Tue, 02 Jan 2001 21:09:33 +0000
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 19:05:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The
>>Ghost In The Machine) wrote:
>>
>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote
>>> on Tue, 02 Jan 2001 03:31:55 -0500
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> >"Colin R. Day" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > > I'd like to see someone steal Microsoft source then give it
>>> >> > > back to them -- Fully debugged. ;)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Why not make some cosmetic changes, and SELL the debugged product.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > What kind of case would Microsoft have
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Oh loook, they stole our code and fixed all the damn bugs!
>>> >> > They must be stopped!"
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Is this why you have said "DOS vedanya" to Microsoft OSes? :-)
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >Actually, of all the OS's I've used, Microsoft is the "newbie"...
>>> >
>>> >So...my frustration with their low quality comes from over a DECADE
>>> >of using reliable systems before having been introduced to Microcrap.
>>>
>>> One could quibble here, admittedly.
>>>
>>> Unix: 1969 - 1970.
>>> v6 < 1980
>>> v7 1982?
Umm, yeah.
>>> MIcrosoft: incorporated 1975?
>>
NO!
>>Yes, making BASIC for the Altair. Microsoft didn't make any OSs until IBM
>>came along in 1981 looking for the OS for "Project Chess". Even then all
>>they did was modify Tim Paterson's QDOS.
>
>Sounds about right.
>
>>
>>> first DOS 1981?
NO! IBM PC wasn't until 83.
Before that it was only CPM.
>>> Windows 3.1 1985?
YES!
>>
>>Win3.1 was 1992. Win1.03, the first official release, is dated 1986
>
>Oh, OK. Evidently my timeline is off. (This wouldn't surprise me;
>this part I'm doing from memory.)
>
>>
>>> Windows 95 1995
NO!
>>> Linux: 0.01 1991
>>
YES!
>>I thought Linus Torvald's first posting was in October 1991.
>
>I remember 1991 from other discussions -- but it's either 91 or 92,
>obviously. :-)
>
>>
>>> 1.0.9 1994
>>> 1.2.13 1995
>>> 2.0.0 1996
>>> 2.0.38 1997
>>> 2.2.0 1999
>>> 2.3.99-pre9 2000 (development)
I'm thinking 1998 for 2.2 and 1999 was start of 2.3.
>>
>>Peter
>
>
>--
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> up 94 days, 10:34, running Linux.
Charlie
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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 23:08:59 -0500
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: OEditors: Xedit vs. vi or emacs
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
>
> NOTHING is intuitive....especially computers and software.
>
So, that means you should try to make it as convoluted as possible?
>
> > Using the arrow keys is obvious. Using j,k,h,l makes no sense. Oh,
>
> using hjkl takes about 1 hour to learn, but pays off in spades in
> increased productivity.
How can you learn that? Remember, you're not allowed to RTFM or ask anyone for help.
Those were your
rules. If you think j,k,h,l were chosen for the purpose of improving productivity,
you're nuts. They
were chosen due to limitations in the hardware at the time. Gee, does that sound
familiar?
>
>
> > wait, I could RTFM! But then that would go against
> > your apparent philosophy that you should be able to use an editor without reading
>the manual. You
> > loose.
> >
> > And what about when you are in insert mode? Or if you mistype and hit i
>instead of k?
>
> Hit escape.
That's a little late, don't you think? Most likely, by the time you discover you hit
the wrong key, you
will have hit another key, causing a character to be inserted that must now be deleted.
>
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > came up in command mode. I want to edit the file. Why must I type Esc-I to
>edit? Half the
> > >
> > > you don't..you just type 'i' or 'I' or 'a' or 'A' or 'o' or 'O'
> > >
> > > how horrible...6 seperate options.
> >
> > Oh joy! Just makes it that more likely that I will enter insert mode while
>moving the cursor.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > time I
> > > > couldn't get it to insert characters properly.
> > >
> > > Evidently, millions of users have more intelligence than you.
> > >
> >
> > I know how to RTFM, unlike you.
> >
> > >
> > > > The other half it would insert but not allow me
> > > > to delete or overlay characters. Note that this
> > > > was vi, not vim. And the fact that it had no Rexx macro support.
> > >
> > > awwwwwwwwww pooor baby.
> > >
> > > Clue, the world does NOT revolve around REXX.
> >
> > Rexx makes a powerful macro processor. But if you don't like Rexx, you can write
>xedit macros in
> > C. I'll bet you didn't know that.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > No ALL command.
> > >
> > > Yes, there is.
> > >
> > > :s/bad pattern/new text/g
> > >
> > > /g indicates GLOBAL REPLACEMENT
> >
> > Now you are just embarrassing yourself. I said ALL, not c/bad pattern/new
>text/*. Do you have
> > any idea what ALL does?
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > For a
> > > > while, I got so frustrated that I just ended up uploading the file I wanted to
>edit to CMS,
> > > > using xedit, and then downloading the file.
> > > >
> > > > You have only provided one reason for hating xedit - a default which you think
>is wrong, but
> > >
> > > Indicative of the lack of planning and foresight by the people who write and
>maintain it.
> > >
> >
> > Please, tell us, how would you do it differently? Ot better yet, try porting vi
>to work with a
> > 3270.
> >
> > >
> > > > which has been explained to you is a result of the
> > > > limitation of the 3270 hardware. Yet you used xedit all that time, hating
>every moment, and
> > > > never bothered to crack the manual or ask someone. I would agree that the
>3270 has problems.
> > > > That has been the general consensus within IBM for years. But that is the
>hardware, not
> > > > xedit. By the way, I tried running xedit without my profile (to get the
>default behavior) and
> > > > could not reproduce the problem. Insert worked perfectly. This may be
>because I no longer
> > > > have access to a real 3270 so I use x3270 from AIX.
> > > >
> > > > Gary
> >
> > Interesting how you totally ignored the fact the the problem you are whining about
>DOES NOT EXIST on
> > x3270.
>
> But it DOES exist on ACTUAL 3270 terminals....
Which don't exist anymore. And the problem was with the hardware, not the software.
Got it?
Gary
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Could only...
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 23:10:10 -0500
kiwiunixman wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> > kiwiunixman wrote:
> >
> >> Well, you're right, nothing will happen until a leader with a bit of
> >> backbone, grabs the US by the balls and drags it out of the gun crazed
> >> culture that has bred itself into the US citizens sub conscience.
> >
> >
> > Guns are freedom and safety.
> >
> > Look at Australia...they banned guns, and the murder rate TRIPLED.
> >
> > This indicates that private ownership of guns PREVENTS more murders
> > than it causes.
> Same program implemented in New Zealand and the murder rate has gone
> down. SO your simplistic approach has failed, or are you one of those
> sick, gun crazed yobbo who belongs to the NRA.
>
> >
> >
> >> Unfortunately this will not happen until the the election system is
> >> overhalled so that scumbag organisations like Microsoft and the NRA keep
> >> out politics and that elections are based on policies, not, "oh, I'm not
> >
> >
> > Preserving the right to gun ownership *IS* a policy.
> >
> > Read "The Federalist Papers", and you will understand the US Constitution,
> > and PRECISELY why the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is spelled out within it.
> Yet even after the mass murders carried out at schools in America,
> nothing still hasn't been learnt.
Actually, we learned several things:
1. Outlawing things doesn't prevent criminal behavior.
It is illegal for minors to carry pistols
It is illegal to have firearms on school grounds
It is illegal to brandish a weapon
It is illegal to discharge a weapon with the city limits (of most cities)
It is illegal to discharge a weapon with the intent to murder
another human being.
All of those activities WERE ALREADY ILLEGAL....so, exactly *what*
would another law do, exactly?
Do you think it would have prevent those with criminal intent from
getting weapons? If you believe that, you're insane.
Heroin, Cocaine, Marijuana, PCP, Ecstasy, Methamphetamines, etc. are
already illegal in the USA...and yet, they are everywhere...in fact,
the price of illicit drugs IN HIGH SECURITY PRISONS is no higher
than out on the streets.
CONTRABAND LAWS DO NOT WORK.
At least not in the US. We have too many miles of coastline.
As for guns...the AK-47 is designed to be manufactured by primitive
societies with a MUCH lower level of technology than the Average
American can obtain with $5000 of machine-shop equipment.
Any policy which relies upon contraband laws is idiotic.
Any policy which relies upon contraband laws against devices that
can be manufactured in someone's basement are insane.
> Yes, we do have guns in New Zealand
> (because some people see it as one of their interests, and I respect
> that), however, we have laws surrounding how they are kept etc. For
How many criminals obey such laws?
> example, a person who owns a gun, must have it locked in a safe place to
> ensure that it is out of the reach of kiddies and undesirable
> characters.
How many undesirable characters obey such laws?
> If you fail to hear to this requirement, you are liable for
> any damage that occurs if the gun is stolen and was not safely stored.
How many undesirable characters obey such laws?
>
> We maybe a shitty little country in the south pacific and that 99% of
> American youth don't know wheren the hell it is, but at least we have
> out shit together.
Well, you are turning away from Socialism...but, any man who is
prohibited from carrying a weapon to defend himself is only a serf.
Gun control laws are merely a re-establishment of the medieval class
system: The elite get to arm themselves, while the un-washed masses
are targets for crime.
>
> kiwiunixman
>
> >
> >
> >
> >> voting for Al Gore because he is boring" bullshit the citizens
> >> churnthrough as their excuse for not voting for presicent a or b.
> >
> >
> > Al Gore isn't boring...he's a closet-dictator who wants to foment
> > his Enviro-religion upon us.
> >
> >
> >
> >> kiwiunixman
> >>
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> In article <3a4a97ea$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >>> "theworld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> The difference is that in the US is happens again, and again, and
> >>>
> >>> again and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> again, and everytime the
> >>>> governernment "tries" to do something about it, the so-called
> >>>
> >>> constitution
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> waivers start running around
> >>>> crapping on about it's the constitutional right to have a
> >>>
> >>> gun....America,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> the land of the ignorant and arrogant.
> >>>> It will never end until (which won't happen) the general population
> >>>
> >>> wake
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> up from there gun crazed
> >>>> obsession and relised they aren't the symbol of democracy, merly a
> >>>
> >>> bi-product
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> of years of indotrination.
> >>>>
> >>>> the world has spoken
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And don't expect it to get any better when the rootin'-tootin' Texas
> >>> executioner takes office as their President. These people just have to
> >>> grow old and die before any sensible change can occur. Charlton Heston,
> >>> chief bullshitter for the gun lobby, he's older than dirt's grandfather
> >>> and won't be around much longer. And thank $DEITY rednecks don't know
> >>> enough to vote (Florida proved this). Maybe, just maybe, in a few years
> >>> we can expect some semblance of civilization to take sprout in the
> >>> colonies. Otherwise they're like Klingons - except stupid.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent via Deja.com
> >>> http://www.deja.com/
> >>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 23:14:11 -0500
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Notice how Gary snipped the part where I was chastised for not
> having read the 3270 manual.
>
Really? Where were you chastised for not reading the 3270 manual? I
suggested that you read the manual first before blaming xedit developers for
something that they could not control.
Gary
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: Uptimes
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 04:19:56 GMT
In article <930e9i$gvt$06$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>
>Well, you can surely put it that way. I would in privacy, but since I'm a
>good natured person ;) i phrased it a little more polite.
>You know how we call Microsoft in Germany?
>It's called "Winzig Weich", which are the words for "very small" and "soft"
>And the name is appropriate -> very small (brains), soft (on standards)
>
>
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! I LOVE YOU PETER! HAH HAH HAA HA HA!
Charlie
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open source is getting worst with time.
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 23:19:27 -0500
kiwiunixman wrote:
>
> Colin R. Day wrote:
>
> > kiwiunixman wrote:
> >
> >
> >> 1st its Labour NOT labor, please don't use your bastardised english
> >> around here please.
> >
> >
> > What the f*? That's standard American English. And yes, we won our
> > revolution, so we're entitled to change the spelling. Or do you expect
> > us to retain the King's/Queen's English after rejecting the monarch?
> >
> > Colin Day
> hmm, The rest of the world plays Cricket whilst you play Baseball
> The rest of the world plays Rugby whilst you play Gridiron
> The rest of the world uses 240v whilst you use 110v
240V is more efficient (lower distribution losses), but also more
dangerous.
Also, the US is the ONLY country that has properly designed electrical
equipment. Here, the two poles of an electric plug are NOT interchangeable.
One is hot, and one is neutral. Neutral is connected to the chassis
of the device, except in high-current devices, in which case, the chassis
is grounded to a 3rd line; Ground-pole on a US plug MUST be properly
grounded to a water pipe or into the earth.
> The rest of the world uses the metric system whilst you still use
> the imperial system (which is surprising, you still have not
> dropped even though its origins are from the Monarchy).
We only use it for household goods, things the typical joe 6-pack and
susy housewife buy.
Industrial goods and automobiles are all designed in metric.
But..you see, this is a free country. Sellers can use whatever
measurement system they like. And if it appeals to purchasers,
great. If it doesn't appeal to consumers, so be it.
As it is, "legacy" things (like recipes) are in imperial units,
so there is a strong impetus to keep them. Gallons are still used
for gasoline because there's no reason to change.
On the other hand ever screw on an American automobile is metric,
to minimize redesign on export models.
> The rest of the world uses degrees Celsius whilst you still use
> farenheight.
Can't figure out why we keep it...other than the fact that our
TV weather presenters tend to be some of the most dimwitted clods
in our society (good looking, but empty heads)
>
> America = Microsoft, non-standard system.
> Rest of the world = Linux, open-standard, that everyone else has adopted
Actually, Unix was invented in America....
>
> And yes I do expect you to retain the kings/queens english! It is the
> standard way of spelling words.
>
> kiwiunixman
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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