Linux-Advocacy Digest #263, Volume #31            Fri, 5 Jan 01 07:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: The 2.4.0 kernel was released at 4pm pst. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: open source is getting worst with time. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: open source is getting worst with time. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Almost 60% Surveyed Plan To Install Windows 2000 ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft?
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:29:10 -0500

Todd wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Todd wrote:
> > >
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:92tuuv$vkf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > In article <92tmli$ojd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > >   hackerbabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > A quote from http://microsoft.aynrand.org/hate.html, referring to
> why
> > > > > Microsoft has been persecuted in the anti-trust trial:
> > > > >
> > > > > "There is only one fundamental reason why great businessmen [like
> Bill
> > > > > Gates]
> > > >
> > > > ...or Al Capone, or Manuel Noriega, or John Gotti...
> > > >
> > > > > or great companies [like Microsoft]
> > > >
> > > > ... or the Mafia, or the Medellin cartel, or the Hell's Angels...
> > > >
> > > > > are hated, and it has
> > > > > nothing to do with so-called monopolies. [Microsoft is] hated . . .
> > > > > because [it is] good, that is, smarter, more visionary, more
> creative,
> > > > > more tenacious, more action-focused, more ambitious, and more
> > > > > successful than everyone else.
> > > >
> > > > Bullshit. It's because they fucking broke the law.
> > >
> > > Nope... appeals *will* overturn the verdict.
> >
> >
> > You fucking dumbass.
> 
> Are all Linux users like this?

Only when dealing with fucking dumbasses like yourself.


> 
> >  MS did NOT appeal the verdict.
> > They appealed the SENTANCE.
> >
> > They're guilty as sin, and they know it.
> 
> Not unless they are *proven* guilty - and the appeals court will have their
> say.

There *WERE* proven guilty, you goddamned fucking retard.
Microsoft is NOT appealing the conviction, you goddamned fucking retard.
Microsoft is ONLY appealing the *sentance*, you goddamned fucking retard.


Is any of this getting through to you, you goddamned fucking retard?

> 
> > They're just pissed that the judge handed down punishment which
> > will actually put a stop the the criminal activity.
> 
> Not yet - appeals will overturn the 'sentence'.

We'll see

> 
> Yes MS is a monopoly on the desktop...

And they have a 15-year history of criminally abusing the power of that monopoly.
 

> However, you need to be able to prove that MS used its monopoly to stuff out
> competition *and* prove that it harmed consumes.

Bill Gates' own testimony and memos demonstrate that quite handily.
Steve Ballmer's only reinforce that proof.

What part of denying consumers the choice of competing products HARMS CONSUMERS
do you not understand?


> 
> It will be very hard to prove since IE is a far better product than Netscape
> (just try to run Netscape under *Linux*, and you will see what I mean).

I run Netscape on everything.


I *NEVER* run Internet Exploder.  Bugs the fuck out of you, doesn't it.



> 
> Also, there are better browsers out their than Netscape.  Take a look at
> Opera.  How did they survive when Netscape didn't?  Opera is a better
> product.

Netscape just released a new browser.

This must be some new definition of "not surviving" that the rest
of which the English-speaking world is unaware.


> 
> > >  MS did not break the law.
> >
> > That strange...by failing to appeal the finding of guilt,
> > MS's lawyers admit that, in fact, MS DID BREAK THE LAW.
> > ( 60 counts, no less!)
> 
> Heh.  Let's wait to see what the appeals court has to say.

The appeals court does NOT have jurisdiction to overturn the CONVICTION
because even Microsoft's lawyers now admit that they were caught
dead to rights.

By the way, remember, Judge Jackson asked the DOJ to present a
sentance which would result in Microsoft being broken up into
MORE than 2 pieces.


> 
> We shall see who is right and who is wrong.

News must be pretty slow getting to your parts.

You aren't living in one of those swamps in Florida in which the inhabitants
didn't even hear of the START of the Civil War (1861) until *after* the
war was over (1865).

Microsoft was Convicted...for the umpteemth time.
This time, they were convicted of over 60 counts of criminal behavior.

Microsoft was SENTANCED....for the umpteemth time.

Previously, Microsoft was allowed to enter into consent decrees.
On every single previous occasion, Microsoft violated the spirit
of those consent decrees through arguments based on semantics.

Those who understand Microsoft's behavior, and the DAMAGE to the
economy that they are doing....BILLIONS of hours of lost productivity
and needless hardware upgrades, to name just a few...are getting sick
and tired of this sort of bullshit.

The stupidest part is....nearly EVERY thing Microsoft was convicted
of....had precedence when IBM was convicted OF THE EXACT SAME
FREE-MARKET-HOSTILE, ANTI-CUSTOMER practices (Fraud, Vaporware,
Extortion, leveraging Monopolies, etc) as Microsoft.

Only a goddamned pure-to-the-core crook goes around committing
fraud and extortion and then claims to be doing no wrong.

If I were Bill Gates, I would hire a small army to sweep all the
rooftops whereever he goes...because as more and more of the
TRUTH gets out to the public...the more likely it is that some
nut is going to decide that his special psychotic act will be
to take out Bill the Megalomaniac.





> 
> -Todd
> 
> > >
> > > -Todd
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent via Deja.com
> > > > http://www.deja.com/
> >
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
> >

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The 2.4.0 kernel was released at 4pm pst.
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:32:17 -0500

Adam Warner wrote:
> 
> Wow. That's fantastic.
> 
> And to think Wired made it No. 4 in their "Vapourware 2000" article.
> 
> On the day in history that Linus releases the 2.4.0 kernel Microsoft
> releases another build of Whister:
> 
> http://www.wininformant.com/display.asp?ID=3043
> 
> But this build is designed to stop you installing the operating system on
> all but one computer (read it to see).
> 
> Regards,
> Adam

April started with a bang--literally--when Judge
                 Thomas Penfield Jackson announced that settlement
     talks between Microsoft Corporation and the U.S. government had
     broken down. Jackson had put off his ruling with the hope that the two
     sides could come to an agreement, but with that nasty business aside,
     he presented his conclusions of law. The document was devastating to
     Microsoft, with harsh language and a strong condemnation of the
     company's actions. Jackson said that Microsoft was a bullying
     monopoly that illegally abused its power to harm competitors, partners,
     and consumers while it crushed innovation in the computer industry.
     And the judge found the company to be guilty of two of the three
     charges that were brought against it. "The Court concludes that
     Microsoft maintained its monopoly power by anticompetitive means
     and attempted to monopolize the Web browser market," Jackson
     wrote in his ruling. "Microsoft also violated [Section] 1 of the Sherman
     Act by unlawfully tying its Web browser to its operating system. The
     facts found do not support the conclusion, however, that the effect of
     Microsoft's marketing arrangements with other companies constituted
     unlawful exclusive." The DOJ was understandably pleased with the
     ruling, while Microsoft threw together a press conference in which Bill
     Gates said the company would remain focused on "building great
     software."   Find out more!

"Building great software" ???

They've had 20 freakin' years and haven't gotten around to it yet.




-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open source is getting worst with time.
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 06:23:16 -0500

kiwiunixman wrote:
> 
> gridiron, that stupid excuse for a sport where by every tackle they have a 5
> minute break!

Only on incomplete passes and plays that go out of bounds.

After tackle that stay in bounds, the clock keeps running.


> 
> kiwiunixman
> 
> "JM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 20:49:23 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >  ("Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> >
> > >> > What the f*? That's standard American English. And yes, we won our
> > >> > revolution, so we're entitled to change the spelling. Or do you
> expect
> > >> > us to retain the King's/Queen's English after rejecting the monarch?
> > >> >
> > >> > Colin Day
> > >> hmm, The rest of the world plays Cricket whilst you play Baseball
> >
> > >That's odd. Baseball is much more popular than cricket in Japan and
> > >Laitn America. I don't recall cricket being an Olympic sport.
> >
> > And I don't recall cricket players needing giant gloves just to catch
> > an already over sized ball.
> >
> > >>       The rest of the world plays Rugby whilst you play Gridiron
> >
> > >Probably soccer more than rugby.
> >
> > What's gridiron?
> >
> > >> And yes I do expect you to retain the kings/queens english! It is the
> > >> standard way of spelling words.
> >
> > >Don't hold your breath.
> >
> > Why not?


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open source is getting worst with time.
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 06:53:40 -0500

kiwiunixman wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > kiwiunixman wrote:
> > >
> > > Colin R. Day wrote:
> > >
> > > > kiwiunixman wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> 1st its Labour NOT labor, please don't use your bastardised english
> > > >> around here please.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What the f*? That's standard American English. And yes, we won our
> > > > revolution, so we're entitled to change the spelling. Or do you expect
> > > > us to retain the King's/Queen's English after rejecting the monarch?
> > > >
> > > > Colin Day
> > > hmm, The rest of the world plays Cricket whilst you play Baseball
> > >       The rest of the world plays Rugby whilst you play Gridiron
> > >       The rest of the world uses 240v whilst you use 110v
> >
> > 240V is more efficient (lower distribution losses), but also more
> > dangerous.
> >
> > Also, the US is the ONLY country that has properly designed electrical
> > equipment.  Here, the two poles of an electric plug are NOT
> interchangeable.
> >
> > One is hot, and one is neutral.  Neutral is connected to the chassis
> > of the device, except in high-current devices, in which case, the chassis
> > is grounded to a 3rd line; Ground-pole on a US plug MUST be properly
> > grounded to a water pipe or into the earth.
>
> Bullshit, been outside America lately, our (NZ and AUS) plugs are like so:

Actually, yeah, i've been a few places around Europe, Saudi Arabia (and
neighboring countries), and parts of Russia.

They all use the two round-prong plugs that have no polarity.


                        
                        O               O

Which is pretty dangerous is if either side ever comes in contact
with and electrically-conductive chassis, or if a non-conductive
chassis suffers significant damage.


This is as bad as the original unpolarized American plug standard:

                        
                        |               |
                        |               |

Eventually, the unreasonable danger of that standard was realized
and it was replaced by the modern polarized American plug standard:
[Notice that it's backwards compatible with older devices]

                        |
                        |               |
                        |               |
                        |               |
                        
And the grounded plug standard:


                        |
                        |               |
                        |               |
                        |



                                O

> 
>            /             \                                 /          \
>           /               \                               /            \
> 
>                   |
>                   |
> 
> For plugs with the earth thingy.           Plugs without earth
> 
> and yes, like America, the earth thingy is connected to a ground pole or
> metal waterpipe.

Hmmm, so at least there's one other are which uses polarized plugs
and proper grounding for "things that need grounding". :-)



> 
> and your phase "the US is the ONLY country that has properly designed
> electrical
> equipment" is very simplistic and "Claire Lynn" like to say the least.

Sorry, I was unaware that OZ and Kiwiland have properly-designed
electrical distribution systems.

I should ammend that.  Europe, the Arab countries, and Russia
do NOT have properly designed electrical equipment because they
have an improper plug standards.

Without proper plug standards, they can never properly
design electrical equipment.



> Ever used a New Zealand made product? probably not!  so don't make sweaping
> statements without facts.

Sorry. I made the (short-sighted) mistake of assuming that you guys
use the Europe/Arab/Russian standard plugs.


> 
> >
> > >       The rest of the world uses the metric system whilst you still use
> > >      the imperial system (which is surprising, you still have not
> > >       dropped even though its origins are from the Monarchy).
> >
> > We only use it for household goods, things the typical joe 6-pack and
> > susy housewife buy.
> >
> > Industrial goods and automobiles are all designed in metric.
> >
> > But..you see, this is a free country.  Sellers can use whatever
> > measurement system they like.  And if it appeals to purchasers,
> > great.  If it doesn't appeal to consumers, so be it.
> >
> > As it is, "legacy" things (like recipes) are in imperial units,
> > so there is a strong impetus to keep them.  Gallons are still used
> > for gasoline because there's no reason to change.
> >
> > On the other hand ever screw on an American automobile is metric,
> > to minimize redesign on export models.
>
> 1970s NZ moved from imperial measurements, pounds and shillings, to Metric,
> dollars and cents. imperial measurement is no-longer taught in schools, and
> now we have a generation of metric aware students.
>

That's one place where the US has been metric from the get-go ... :-)

They taught us the Metric system in school starting in 1975...
but unfortunately, most of the dunderheads got hung-up on bemoaning
the conversion factors between Metric and Imperial....neglecting
to observe that if you're given a recipe in Metric, you're not supposed
to convert it to ounces and teaspoons and all that nonsense...

[Yes, I admit...I am a citizen of a country of idiots...who, if it were
not for a Constitution which they don't even understand, would gladly
sell themselves into slavery...and in fact, have been fervently trying
to do so for about 70 years now.... :-( ]



> >
> >
> > >       The rest of the world uses degrees Celsius whilst you still use
> > >    farenheight.
> >
> > Can't figure out why we keep it...other than the fact that our
> > TV weather presenters tend to be some of the most dimwitted clods
> > in our society (good looking, but empty heads)
>
> Neither can I.
>
> >
> > >
> > > America = Microsoft, non-standard system.
> > > Rest of the world = Linux, open-standard, that everyone else has adopted
> >
> > Actually, Unix was invented in America....
>
> Country of origin is has nothing to do my comparision.  The fact remains,
> America ALWAYS has to be different.  The latest NZ and Aussie vs. United
> States at the WTO is a prime example of this arrogance.

To much of this "We're #1" nonsense, repeated often enough, and the
idiots start believing it.

Here we have a nation of kids who score the LOWEST in the industrialized
world in Mathematics, Science, History and Geography, but if you ask them
to rate themselves on their abilities in these areas, they rate themselves,
on a "1=Worst to 10=Best" scale in the 7 to 10 range.

Conversely, in Japan, where the students are at or near the top in
all of these categories, the average "self-evaluation" is a 4.

Figure that out.


>                                                          The US has chucked
> a hissey fit because they can't put tarrifs on lamb inports...tough
> luck...this is the free market...get used to it!

I fully agree with you.  I think tarriffs are harmful to consumers.

High "Protective" tariffs are nothing more than gouging money out of
purchasers pockets because the local people are either

a) not productive enough, or
b) otherwise banging their head against and economic brick wall and
        using more resources than is necessary for the job...


>                                                   You could use the example
> of 10 years of US economies expansion, however, this has been mainly driven
> by internel demand, now that there is an over supply internally, companies,
> now have to export, but they can't because the value of the US dollar is too
> high!  hence, the reason for the economic slow down.


For a nation which has succeeded so well in the economic arena,
only a pitifully small percentage truly understand economics
(and no, knowing "Keynesian Economics", "Marxist Economics" nor other
anti-reality economic theories doesn't count.... real world shoes that
the only economic "school" of thought that truly understands how it
works is the so-called "Austrian 'School' of Economics"
        < http://www.mises.org >


However, the Austrian Economists' view of the world conflicts with
socialists' wishful thinking, so they reject such ideas that if you
subsidize a bad behavior (like out of wedlock childbirth, unemployment,
etc), you will encourage people to engage in that behavior more often...
even as these same socialists encourage subsidies for things they
like....(and conversely, socialists' wishful thinking also makes them
reject the notion that if you tax something (like work), that you are
discouraging it...even as the promote punitive taxes for behavior they
abhor (like smoking, or alcohol consumption).




> 
> kiwiunixman
> >
> >
> > >
> > > And yes I do expect you to retain the kings/queens english! It is the
> > > standard way of spelling words.
> > >
> > > kiwiunixman
> >
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
> >
> >
> > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> >     premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> >     you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> >     you are lazy, stupid people"
> >
> > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> >    challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> >    between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> >    Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> >
> > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> >    The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> >    also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> >
> > A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.
> >
> > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> >    method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> >    direction that she doesn't like.
> >
> > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> >
> > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> >    ...despite (C) above.
> >
> > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> >    her behavior improves.
> >
> > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> >    adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> >
> > G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Almost 60% Surveyed Plan To Install Windows 2000
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 07:02:40 -0500

kiwiunixman wrote:
> 
> 1st I don't care
> 2nd Please, if you are going to advocate use a proper email address, because
> clearly, you are just trying to be an asshole by posting here not using you
> proper email address.
> 3rd Thats America - The rest of the world won't, due to the expensive
> hardware upgrades, retraining and other associated costs when deploying
> software.

I'll bet that after a lot of those Lose 2000 upgrades occur....a lot
of Microshaft-friendly IT managers will be out on the streets.


> 
> kiwiunixman
> 
> "Larry R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I don't know who they surveyed, but I don't believe them.  Excerpt from
> > Information Week email subscription:
> >
> >
> > ** Almost 60% Surveyed Plan To Install Windows 2000
> >
> > More than half of InformationWeek readers are either running Windows
> > 2000, installing the Microsoft operating system, or plan to deploy
> > the software by the middle of this year, according to a survey of
> > 232 IT managers. Enterprise Management Associates Inc., a market
> > research firm, conducted the November 2000 telephone survey of
> > InformationWeek subscribers who have technology or budget
> > responsibility for Windows 2000 in their companies.
> >
> > According to the survey, due to be released in March, 13.8% of IT
> > departments are running Windows 2000 in production environments, and
> > another 9% are rolling out the operating system in production.
> > Microsoft shipped Windows 2000 Professional, Server, and Advanced
> > Server editions last February; the high-end DataCenter Server
> > edition shipped in August. Microsoft has said adoption of its new
> > server systems, among the most complex software the company has ever
> > delivered, will increase this year as companies complete lengthy
> > planning and testing cycles.
> >
> > The EMA study shows that 57.3% of respondents plan to install
> > Windows 2000 eventually?about half of them (28.9%) within six
> > months. Another 19.4% say they have no plans to upgrade to the
> > system. Sponsors of the survey include BindView, Cognet, Computer
> > Associates, EDS, FastLane Technologies, Hewlett-Packard, Intel,
> > NetIQ, Unisys, and Veritas.
> >
> > Among a narrower sample of 100 IT managers at companies with 1,000
> > or more employees that are either running or deploying Windows 2000,
> > or plan to deploy within six months, 23% of respondents say their
> > Windows 2000 rollouts are part of regular upgrade cycles, and 21%
> > say they're upgrading to achieve better system reliability. Sixteen
> > percent of respondents say their decision was driven by application
> > software that requires the new software. Other reasons cited include
> > staying current with industry standards and the competition (18%)
> > and better security (11%).
> >
> > But installing Windows 2000 is expensive, IT managers say. According
> > to the 100 respondents with complete, current, or near-term upgrade
> > projects, 51% cite cost as a barrier or challenge to migration?the
> > No. 1 reason cited. Hardware costs are the most frequent complaint,
> > cited by 22% of respondents, followed by software (17%). In
> > addition, 39% of IT managers name difficult migration of servers as
> > a challenge. The most common difficulty in that case: limited
> > expertise on staff, cited by 15% of respondents. - Aaron Ricadela
> >
> > System & Network Administrator
> > lrosen at att dot com


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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