Linux-Advocacy Digest #831, Volume #31 Mon, 29 Jan 01 22:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: C2 ("Chad Myers")
Re: A Linux "Domain Server"? (Bob Hauck)
Re: And after all that, it worked! (Bob Hauck)
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Chad Myers")
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Kernel upgrade - not bad at all ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ("Joe Malloy")
Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ("Joe Malloy")
Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ("Joe Malloy")
Re: Kernel upgrade - not bad at all ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy! (mlw)
Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: XFS 1.0 is getting close! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does) ) (.)
Re: Linux headache ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Yup, it's definatly Mandrake (John Travis)
Re: Yup, it's definatly Mandrake (John Travis)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Michel Catudal)
Re: Adam Warner is a fucking idiot! (Jim Broughton)
Re: M$ websites down again - Problem solved -> use Linux! ("Les Mikesell")
Progeny Debian... ("Kyle Jacobs")
Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:36:47 GMT
"." wrote:
>
> > > For the record, Visio integrated with Office before it was an MS product.
> > > The only thing MS have done is included it in the Office installation.
> >
> > And modified it so that the older Visio cannot read the files saved by
> > the new Visio.
>
> Naturally... I don't think anyone's surprised when the newest version of
> office comes out with all new file formats. Gotta keep ahead of those
> nasty free software people!
Hell, M$ was doing that crap even before free software got popular.
> What I hate most is when you use O97 to save in O95 format... it
> constantly warns you that there are things that wont work in the old
> format and you might lose data... fuckin BOLLOCKS! It warns me of this
> even if I've only typed a single line in word! Does O2k spout this fear-
> mongering upgrade-forcing shite as well?
Don't know. But, to be fair, the Star Offices apps do this same kind
of prompting. The Writer at least asks only once.
I still wish that Microsoft would stick to a standard format. Fat chance.
Chris
--
Flipping the Bozo bit at 400 MHz
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: C2
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:27:12 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On 29 Jan 2001 13:12:11 -0600, Conrad Rutherford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >"Jim Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On 27 Jan 2001 19:18:15 -0600,
> >> Jan Johanson, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> brought forth the following words...:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >>
> >> >> >I believe NT is certified on several different hardware platforms,
> >> >> >all of which are available to the average joe (mainly through
> >> >> >Compaq). One could buy similar hardware to the boxes tested and,
> >> >> >while not technically C2, you could obtain the level of security
> >> >> >tested in the C2 certification because, as I stated before,
> >> >> >the OS is the main focus of the certification.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >-Chad
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> And as WE stated before. It's software and hardware.
> >> >>
> >> >> And now you finally admit it.
> >> >>
> >> >> That's a good boy.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Charlie - C2 applies to the OS - only. Period.
> >>
> >> incorrect.
> >
> >Really? OK, prove it.
>
> The C2 reporting documents specify more than just the OS.
> Certain rather simple things obviously are required to
> keep a machine secure even by University computing lab
> standards (nevermind the NSA). Leave those basic things
> out and you have holes that you could ride a scud through.
Well, these standards are mainly for servers and workstations
in highly secure top-secret installations, not Universities.
Hardware is part of it, but it's an insignificant part. There
are many hardware vendors that have C2 compliant features, where
there are only a few OSen. The OS is the biggest part of it all.
In fact, IIRC, the NT 4 C2 was evaluated on a couple different
hardware configurations thus illustrating that the only reason
there were a "couple" configurations is because it's not really
all that relevant because, again, it's the OS that matters the
most. If time and money weren't an issue, there'd be a thousand
different hardware configurations. The DoD only tested the major
ones they use in their setups because that's all thats relevant
to them.
But, of course, this is all ofuscating the real issue: Linux
doesn't even make a showing because it's security implementation
is laughable and elementary.
You can attempt to break apart the C2 certification semantic by
semantic, but the real issue is, NT has a highly secure security
infrastructure and Linux does not.
-Chad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: A Linux "Domain Server"?
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:44:50 GMT
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:53:50 GMT, SBH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there software out there can configure Linux as a domain controller
>for a Windows NT domain?
First, for better results in the future, ask this kind of question in a
more appropriate group, such as comp.os.linux.networking or one of the
Samba groups.
In the docs that come with Samba, there is a file called "NTDOMAIN.txt".
It explains how to set this up for NT4 and Win9x. I don't know if it
will work for W2K, having only ever done it with Win9x.
This file is under /usr/doc/samba-2.0.6/textdocs on my machine.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: And after all that, it worked!
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:45:26 GMT
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:25:38 GMT, Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>FTP into the box runs _slowly_. No idea why that one occurs.
Note...Pete doesn't want help, he's just keeping us up to date. He
explained in another post that he knows that an advocacy group is the
wrong place to ask technical questions.
So don't bother.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:31:56 GMT
"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> > > But Oracle does work with >2GB files. :)
> >
> > On Linux? Oh yeah, that's right, with their own filesystem on their
> > own partition, an attempt to bypass the brain-dead design flaws of
> > Linux.
>
> Bypassing the VM/filesystem buys you 5-10% performance boost on *any*
> platform (even NT). Personally, I don't do it because it's difficult
> to maintain (grow/shrink tablespaces and such).
>
> > > (and you don't need to use that feature anyway because Oracle is a
> > > real RDBMS)
> >
> > I agree, but the option wouldn't be there in Linux without the
> > home-built filesystem option. Yet another limitation that impedes
> > Linux.
>
> Actually, Oracle reccomends that you use multiple small files so that
> you can change the configuration in the future. If you allocate an
> entire partition to a tablespace and then later want to grant more
> temp ts space (or whatever), you're out of luck.
Sounds like a design flaw in Oracle more than anything.
Man, Oracle on Linux must be the worse. You have to deal with
all the design flaws in Linux, PLUS all the design flaws in Oracle.
-Chad
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:50:15 GMT
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "Giuliano Colla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Jim Richardson wrote:
> > >
> > > On 28 Jan 2001 07:44:44 -0500,
> > > Norman D. Megill, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > brought forth the following words...:
> > >
> > > >In article <dGKc6.19391$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > >Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [...]
> > > >
> > > >> Besides, Win2K has NTFS5 which doesn't have this problem anyhow.
> > > >
> > > >If so, let's hope they have better luck than these people when they
> > > >try to use Win2K for their enterprise application:
> > > >
> > > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16075.html
> > > >
> > > >--Norm
> > > >
> > >
> > > I did find this story amusing, wonder if M$ will fly some techs and muscle
> out
> > > to "convince" Delphi to change their minds...
> > >
> >
> > A quick glance to:
> >
> > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.delphi.com
> >
> > tells that if they did, they didn't succeed, for the moment.
> >
> > It also tells that with Win2k they weren't able to keep their site up
> > for more than half a day.
>
> Which means they were incredibly incompetent. You could try to break
> Win2K and you still couldn't get it to crash that often. They must
> be switching the power on and off or rebooting for the hell of it.
>
> -Chad
Open enough apps and down will tumble Win 2K.
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:51:48 GMT
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> Chris proposed this "hack" for NT/2K as though NT/2K was the only
> OSen vulnerable to this type of attack.
>
> Must I repeat the entire thread, or does your newsreader not thread?
Never ass|u|me! Merely pointing out the NTFS is very vulnerable.
Chad's the one that made the inductive leap.
Sigh.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Kernel upgrade - not bad at all
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:55:54 +0000
> Nope.
> Because it does work.
>
> Unlike Linsux which does not work..
Listen fuckwit: USB DIDN'T WORK STRAIGHT OFF UNDER WINDOWS WHEN I TRIED,
WHEREAS UNDER LINUX, A BIT OF READING, THEN TYPING A FEW CHARACTERS
WORKED. WINDOWS LACKS USEFUL DOCUMENTATION, LINUX DOESN'T. FUCK OFF.
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: "Joe Malloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:51:51 -0500
Tholen, as usual, mistakenly tholes:
> I'm still ignoring Malloy
> like I was at the beginning of the thread, and Malloy is still
> posting his ridiculous responses like he was at the beginning of
> the thread. He hasn't moved on.
Prove it, if you think, Tholen.
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From: "Joe Malloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:55:03 -0500
Tholen tholes:
> > I have no wish for him to argue with me, as well as him arguing with
him.
>
> Then you'll have to live with Malloy's continued ridiculous postings.
Oh, heck, he's been in my killfile since day before yesterday. And the only
thing ridiculous about my postings are its object: you, Tholen.
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From: "Joe Malloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 20:55:29 -0500
Tholen, as usual, mistakenly tholes:
> I'm still ignoring Malloy
> like I was at the beginning of the thread, and Malloy is still
> posting his ridiculous responses like he was at the beginning of
> the thread. He hasn't moved on.
Prove it, if you think, Tholen.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Kernel upgrade - not bad at all
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:57:51 +0000
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > > Why don't the exact same devices work under Linsux?
> > >
> > Because you don't bother to read documentation.
> > Or is reading too hard for you?
>
> Please, what you call "documentation", I call the ravings of a drunken
> programmer. Those people just can not write.
The "ravings of a drunken programmer" is better than nothing. Twat.
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy!
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:01:26 -0500
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> In article <9549fr$3jj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, the actual data shows that MS software is not very stable no
> > matter what you do to it. Facts are facts. ALL the data that has been
> > coming out about W2K shows that it is less stable than Linux, period.
>
> Which is about as relevant as the price of beer when your Linux + X +
> KDE 2.0 system has just frozen, and none of the usual keypresses rescues
> you.
Oh the irony, the irony!! Here I am talking about all the winvocates picking up
a new FUD, and true to form you use it.
Oh the irony.
--
http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:06:29 +0000
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > "David T. Johnson" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is anything that can be done about Kulkis and his foul mouth?
> > >
> > > Quit acting like a shithead, and I won't call you one.
> > >
> > > Deal?
> > >
> >
> > You are fucking fouled mouthed!
>
> "are" is a transitive verb.
> I see that here, goughtr used the word "you" is the subject....
> but failed to include a direct object.
>
Although I accept what I wrote above was not grammatically perfect, the
meaning is more important. Correct grammer, in many cases, will only
serve to obfuscate the intended meaning. For the sake of preserving
clarity of meaning, "foul mouthed" (which I intended to write) can be
treated as a direct object.
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:11:08 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Edward Rosten writes:
>
> > It was origionally a tholen.vs.malloy thread.
>
> Incorrect, given that I haven't responded to Malloy.
>
> > It's moved on since, hence the new suggestion for the name.
>
> You're erroneously presupposing that it was origionally [sic] a
> "tholen.vs.malloy" thread.
>
> > Because I am not the only person who objects to these (I cite Kulkis,
> > for one),
>
> You do realize that it's Kulkis who is responsible for it, don't you?
Listen fuckwit: if don't reply, there's no thread. So it ain't just
Kulkis. Retard.
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XFS 1.0 is getting close!
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:13:21 +0000
> >So Linux FINALLY has what AIX has had for years.
> >
> Humm,
>
> Wonder why he didn't say Windows this time?
>
> Perhaps he actually knows Windows doesn't have
> a journaled file system like a mainframe does.
>
> Guess this makes him a Big Boy.
>
> Charlie
That assumes he has the faintest idea what it means!
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it
does) )
Date: 30 Jan 2001 02:14:59 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Kyle Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9548d1$355$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > who don't come to me with a
>> > quality business card (ie: If I run my moist finger past the 'name' line
> on
>> > your card, the ink won't smudge)
>>
>> What you're doing running your moist finger on ANYTHING during a business
>> meeting or interview is entirely beyond me, but you should probably not
>> do it.
> Really? Your so cheap you don't get your business cards at LEAST done on a
> laser printer, so the "ink" (found on cards that come out of an inkjet)
> doesn't smudge, this tells me that I might be speaking to an idiot that
> thought they could pass off as "professional" by creating a card, coming in
> wearing a suit, and passing off their ravings as "solutions" to my problems.
And if youre looking for that kind of thing, you're bound to miss at least
a handful of people who actually really know what theyre talking about.
Whats more important, image or knowhow?
>> > Presentation is EVERYTHING in business,
>> > that's why we all wear suits, occasionally ties, and jackets.
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> Right now im sitting at the office wearing:
>>
>> Black BDUs, combat boots and a black t-shirt. My biker jacket is hanging
> on
>> a hook behind me. I have multiple facial piercings and lots of visible
>> tattoos. "We" dont all wear suits, kyle. Some of us are exempt from
> dress
>> codes in exchange for being nice enough to fix things at 3am.
> Some of us care about how we look as professionals in the field, then there
> are people who don't. "Professional" is more than that diploma you
> apparently just got in computer science and the job at wherever you are,
> it's a mentality, an art if you might.
The only diploma I have is from highschool actually.
>> > That's right. Your presentation was UNWATCHABLE, and the next guy's
> worked
>> > just fine. We don't have the time or resources to waste on you while
> you
>> > straighten out your presentation, you should have done that on your own
>> > time.
>>
>> I dont have the time or resources to fix EVERYTHING ALL the TIME.
> Sometimes
>> things suffer; occasionally I wont be able to help you out of a boneheaded
>> move due to time constraints and scheduling. Odd that usually the people
> who
>> are the nicest and most respectful to me and my brood seem to always get
> what
>> they want.
> I have no patience or time to deal with someone who comes in looking like
> something that escaped from Greenwich Village who constantly needs their
> bloated, personal ego stroked on a regular basis. You are pitching
> something, better make it look GOOD because the suit only gets you IN the
> office, the presentation gets you MY precious time, and YOUR presentation
> gets the contract.
Neat. You're one hell of a judge of people.
> If one of your presentations doesn't work, that's not my fault, and there is
> a line of people who know how to do business who just might have solutions
> that may even be better than yours.
Presentations are another thing entirely. I dont do presentations. I do
architecture, design, and system administration. The technical writers and
sales people do the presentations.
> Of course, if your professional attitude is an example of your work, we may
> not wish to contract your services for anything.
In this world, *I* chose who to contract with, they do not choose me.
=====.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux headache
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:20:27 +0000
Andy Walker wrote:
>
> I don't want to start a flame war over this but there is one thing I
> want to get off my chest.
> Linux is an absolute nightmare to learn.
I agree, it is a nightmare (and I'd been using Solaris a while before
Linux) but once you know it, it is pretty good
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: John Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Yup, it's definatly Mandrake
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:04:54 GMT
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> Ok, I've herd a lot of comments about Linux Mandrake being the biggest
> pile of shit Linux available, and a lot of commentary exclaiming
> otherwise, I think I've landed on: get this...
>
> I install Mandrake 7.2, finish & reboot. Upon starting KDE2, I ran
> "mandrakeupdate" because I knew that there were a lot of things "out of
> date".
But but Kyle you said you already installed LM 7.2 a month or two ago :-).
A little side note, only Debian seems to have pulled off the menu package
you are talking about. It just doesn't seem to work right on any of the
distros that have incorporated it.
jt
--
Debian Gnu/Linux [Sid]
2.4.1-pre12|XFree4.0.2|Nvidia .96 drivers
You mean there's a stable tree?
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From: John Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Yup, it's definatly Mandrake
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:08:06 GMT
Charlie Ebert wrote:
> Your Debian style menu's?
Yes the Debian "menu" package.
> Mandrake would fall over in it's crap before they used anything
> from Debian.
There is constant bitching about this package in a.o.l.m. Everyone saying
the package sucks this and that. Everything comes up double in the menus.
But interestingly enough it works perfectly in Debian. Go figure.
jt
--
Debian Gnu/Linux [Sid]
2.4.1-pre12|XFree4.0.2|Nvidia .96 drivers
You mean there's a stable tree?
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 29 Jan 2001 20:30:10 -0600
"Aaron R. Kulkis" a écrit :
>
>
> You write like a loser.
>
You write like a moron
--
Tired of Microsoft's rebootive multitasking?
then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat
We have all kinds of links
and many SuSE 7.0 Linux RPM packages
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From: Jim Broughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adam Warner is a fucking idiot!
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:38:35 GMT
Charlie Ebert wrote:
> In article <953q2q$osj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Adam Warner wrote:
> >Dear Charlie,
> >
> >> What really cracks me up is people like this dipshit Adam Warner,
> >> run up here and post a message from something **THEY READ** of
> >> the microsoft.com site, pretend like it's the truth before
> >> even investigating it, and start spreading it around the worlds
> >> internet highways as if it were the *FACTS*.
> >
> >I hope an apology will be quickly forthcoming. I am never been treated so
> >disgustingly.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Adam Warner
> >
>
> No Adam, Your a total fucking **TROLL** dipshit!
> Your a **WINTROL** fucking liar.
>
> You are just like all the rest, you take some peice of
> crap off the http://www.microsoft.com website - when it's
> up- and you start spreading it around the internet like
> they know what the fuck they are talking about anyway!
>
> There is NOTHING that's printed at http://www.microsoft.com
> which is truthful. Nothing.
>
> And posting something from there is so unintelligent, it
> would be like you comming over to my house, pulling your
> pants down and shitting on the living room floor!
>
> An appology. Somebody should kick your fucking ass.
>
> ***BTW**** this just in. George Bush refuses to
> pardon Microsoft. Appearently somebody asked him to????
>
>
>
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
Charlie,
You have TOTALY overstepped your bounds here.
Adam has been one of the most steadfast of linux
supporters here in this NG. You have cast insults
like the above at him in a public forum for no reason
that any intelligent person who has read the WHOLE
thread can possibly see.
You ought to be quite ashamed of yourself. Might I
suggest a public apology before all is lost.
--
Jim Broughton
(The AmigaOS now there was an OS!)
If Sense were common everyone would have it!
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: M$ websites down again - Problem solved -> use Linux!
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:44:23 GMT
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Tg9d6.303$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > After re-reading the message I just have to respond to paragraph 2. It
> > was soooo dumb I thought I would let it pass. I can't imagine the
> > technical staff not knwoing they screwed up immediately. Even if those
> > turkeys tried to coverup, tech support started getting calls
> > immediately. Did tech support just blame it on "stupid users" for 24
> > hours?
>
> Tech support did *NOT* start getting calls immediately. DNS caches take a
> great deal of time to expire, usually 24 hours or more.
That is only for someone who had loaded the record just before the
link was broken. A site that hadn't accessed it for a while would
fail immediately. If people weren't calling, it was only because
they knew from experience that it wouldn't help... Note that the
problem was well known on slashdot and similar sites in the morning,
but it wasn't fixed until evening. And all it takes is a traceroute to
diagnose a problem like that, and a few minutes to correct the router
config.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Progeny Debian...
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:41:21 GMT
PROGENY DEBIAN IS OUT!
PROGENY DEBIAN IS OUT!
PROGENY DEBIAN IS OUT!
It's going to be Debian, with logical enhancements!
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:50:39 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "David T. Johnson" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Is anything that can be done about Kulkis and his foul mouth?
> > > >
> > > > Quit acting like a shithead, and I won't call you one.
> > > >
> > > > Deal?
> > > >
> > >
> > > You are fucking fouled mouthed!
> >
> > "are" is a transitive verb.
> > I see that here, goughtr used the word "you" is the subject....
> > but failed to include a direct object.
> >
>
> Although I accept what I wrote above was not grammatically perfect, the
> meaning is more important. Correct grammer, in many cases, will only
> serve to obfuscate the intended meaning. For the sake of preserving
> clarity of meaning, "foul mouthed" (which I intended to write) can be
> treated as a direct object.
No...that's an adjective. Shit for brains.
> --
> http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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