Linux-Advocacy Digest #974, Volume #31 Mon, 5 Feb 01 02:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell (G3)
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell (G3)
Re: Linux headache ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Goodby MS... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: linux is dieing ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Goodby MS... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING ("Arthur Gravity")
Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING ("Arthur Gravity")
Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING ("Arthur Gravity")
Re: Storm Linux & Applixware ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: The 130MByte text file ("Michael J. Burns")
Re: Storm Linux & Applixware ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
From: G3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,rec.games.frp.dnd
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 06:08:43 GMT
in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aaron R. Kulkis at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote on 2/5/01 12:18 AM:
>> Linux is a joke. It lacks the consumer friendliness for consumers, and it
>
> It's not nearly as "consumer hostile" as Windows.
Are you kidding me? I installed Windows 2000 the install where it reformats
you drive with potential for data loss, nope no loss did the whole thing up
great, couldn't even tell you had changed the internals of the whole damned
OS. No problems.
On the other hand trying to install red hat I had to restore drive
partitions like 5 times. Red hat is great on a 486 with no other OS's
anywhere near it.
I can't wait for OS X to show everyone what UNIX SHOULD be by now.
-g3
------------------------------
Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
From: G3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,rec.games.frp.dnd
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 06:11:07 GMT
in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aaron R. Kulkis at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote on 2/5/01 12:19 AM:
> If Microsoft's stuff is "easier", why does it take so much more effort
> to keep it running properly compared to my Linux box?
> Hmmmmmmmmmm?
I wouldn't know. It takes so long to do something with linux shitty
interface I can't accurately compare their complexity in terms of upkeep.
In my case I have yet to have a Linux system around as long as a Windows
install because its so hard to get it to DO anything and the interface is
such a piece of total smeg that I quickly realize I could do this in 3 steps
under Windows 3.11 and move from the linux machine to a PC or more often
than not a Mac.
Linux is a nice free webserver that's about it.
-g3
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux headache
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 01:22:22 -0500
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sun, 04 Feb 2001 04:00:45 -0500
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> >>
>
> [snip]
>
> >> So whither the desktop? I don't know. I would hope Linux has a
> >> place therein, though.
> >
> >It already *IS* *THE* desktop OS for every designer, checker, and
> >detailer in the auto-industry...WORLDWIDE.
> >
> >That's about 100,000 (essentially) computer-illiterates using Unix
> >for EVERYTHING.....universal choice by EVERY automotive manufacturer
> >in the world....and untold numbers of those working at the tier-1
> >through tier-3 suppliers who ALSO do the same (or else, they don't
> >do business with the auto manufacturers, nor the tiers above them).
> >
> >So...my conservative guess is... 1,000,000 Unix desktops, being used
> >by guys who went from drafting on big sheets of paper to doing
> >heavy CAD work....and really haven't had any problems.
>
> Pedant point: you're apparently describing a Unix desktop, not
> a Linux one. However, there's little difference, especially
> at the application programming level (XDrawLine() is XDrawLine()
> is XDrawLine() ... :-) ). I could see Linux being slid in there
> very very easily, should economic conditions require it.
> Perhaps they will, when their Unix machine leases come up for renewal,
> assuming they lease machines, as opposed to purchase them.
> I can't say I know offhand.
Right now, it depends on whether the big CAD software houses will port
to Linux or not, and THEN getting the "stampe of approval" from the
various automakers who rely on that particular piece of software.
Basically, to have a certified Unigraphics seat, it can't just merely
be running Unigraphics. The hardware must meet one or more minimum
configuration standards, as well as the OS being of certain versions
with specific patches (if listed).
The reason for this is so that suppliers don't go too cheap on hardware
and OS support such that the machine is essentially non-functional.
The advantage is...since everyon playing the game signs off on what the
rules are for a minimum workstation configuration, hourly billing rates
for outsourced work are agreed upon much more rapidly.
So...a transition to Linux will take some time.
>
> (I'm also using a Unix desktop here at my second job -- which was
> actually my first job until I switched jobs, so I'm contracting
> with them now. I've been using it for years, and it works
> very well, although I will admit Windows is a little more convenient
> for passing spreadsheets and Word documents around. But that's
> worked around easily enough.)
People had communicated effectively for centuries without monopolyware
"Word documents".
Here's the question:
Is the formatting of the text
a) more important than, or
b) less important than
the text itself.
There are VERY few business communications which even need to be
done in a WYSIWYG editor....and of those, there is *zero* necessity
to use Word exclusively.
Once management realizes that, we will be free.
>
> [.sigsnip]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- who likes fvwm as a desktop anyway; it's too simple for
> Windows users, though :-)
> EAC code #191 2d:18h:20m actually running Linux.
> This is not a .sig.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Goodby MS...
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 01:23:29 -0500
mlw wrote:
>
> The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote
> > on Sun, 04 Feb 2001 06:19:30 -0500
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >Tom Wilson wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "Kool Breeze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > I managed to learn just enough MFC/Win32 to get the app going and
> > >> > never learned the details, ie, 23 parameters/functions to paint a
> > >> > bitmap to the screen.
> > >>
> > >> If you're ever in the unfortunate position, again, of having to write
> > >> Windows solutions, ignore MFC and go with ATL/WTL. Considerably better and
> > >> less bloated.
> > >>
> > >
> > >MFC being.....Microsoft fucking corruption?
> >
> > Many Foolish Calls. :-)
> Mostly For Children
.......and adults who think like children.
>
> >
> > [.sigsnip]
> >
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> > EAC code #191 2d:17h:10m actually running Linux.
> > This is the best part of the message.
>
> --
> http://www.mohawksoft.com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux is dieing
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 01:23:57 -0500
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Hank Barta
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sun, 04 Feb 2001 18:18:57 GMT
> <l2hf6.79810$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Or perhaps more accurately, my hard drive is dieing. It began making
> > loud whining sounds a couple of days ago. I tried to get one last
> > backup, taring an image to the local disk to transfer to another
> > system. But it was too late. There are too many disk errors to
> > complete this.
>
> Ouch. Good luck; at least you got fair warning. I had a power outage
> (thanks to PG&E and a slightly braindamaged "deregulation program" which
price controls are NOT deregulation.
> didn't allow them to maintain the power grid) and when the system came
> back up, the main system drive (it was an old 4.3GB Quantum) didn't work;
> it was recognized, but wouldn't come back OK or something.
>
> Fortunately for me, my data was all on other devices, which survived.
> My main problem was getting an OS on there; I had an old RedHat 5.2
> CD lying about so slapped that in there and then downloaded a
> Debian "start pack" (basically, part of the disks-i386 subdirectory).
> Once I'd built the boot floppy, I rebooted, walked through the
> dialogs, ran out of disk space at one point so had to go back to
> RH 5.2, move some things around, emptied a partition, restarted the
> install, got through it, and have been running Debian ever since.
>
> It's a bit rough, but I'll admit, dselect is very easy to use;
> it automatically tells you when there are conflicts and when
> there are other packages it needs, unlike RedHat's RPM -- although
> there might be an add on somewhere. I haven't used apt-get yet.
>
> It also has lots of freeware games :-).
>
> >
> > Surprisingly, the system is still up and running, providing
> > firewalling and IP Masquerading services for my home LAN connection
> > to the Internet. I wonder how long it can continue to operate? It has
> > remounted the root file system read only (and the swap device is on
> > the same drive.) I guess I'll have to wait and see. I'll get no more
> > logging since the logs are on a RO file system. On the other hand,
> > it should be a bit more secure since it will be *real* hard for an
> > intruder to actually accomplish anything.
> >
> > The drive began failing when uptime was 28 days and it is now at 30
> > days (and the whining has somewhat subsided.)
>
> Better make sure you can save /etc, and get yourself a new drive. :-)
> If that badspot is because of a speck of dust ruining the surface,
> it'll most likely spread to other tracks.
>
> Again, good luck.
>
> [.signsip]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> EAC code #191 2d:18h:35m actually running Linux.
> The Usenet channel. All messages, all the time.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy!
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 01:25:47 -0500
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> > This sounds like a challenge. After a little work, I have the following
> > questions/observations:
>
> The original challenge came from a Linux advocate, who told me that PFE (a
> GUI Windows editor) would barf long before loading a 100MByte file, let
> alone a 100MByte one. They also seemed to think AbiWord was a wonderful
> editor. That's what got me started on this.
>
> > [1] Did you configure your swap properly? :-)
>
> It's a 250MByte swap partition. You mean I have to do more than that?
>
> > [3] Reading large files with Notepad is not recommended. On NT4,
> > even just killing Notepad takes awhile, whereas vi (actually,
> > elvis) responds immediately to my control-C and stops reading.
> > I discovered this at work, the hard way. (Sorry, I don't have
> > wallclock times for these.)
>
> PFE struggled but loaded, saved and reloaded the file.
>
> > [5] I would be curious as to whether the "Windows GUI editor" (which
> > did you use? Notepad? Wordpad? Write (no longer available?)
> > Word? Slick (3rd party)? VC++'s text editor? Something else?)
> > is reading in the entire file or not prior to processing.
>
> PFE (Programmer's File Editor).
>
> The editor on Linux was the Advanced Text Editor. It hung my system twice,
> apparently by allocating in excess of 300MBytes of memory.
Translation: Pete didn't allocate enough swap space for what he's
trying to do.
Conclusion: Yet another deliberate sabotage by Pete Goodwin.
>
> --
> Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Goodby MS...
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 01:29:09 -0500
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> "The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote
> > on Sun, 04 Feb 2001 06:19:30 -0500
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >Tom Wilson wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "Kool Breeze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > I managed to learn just enough MFC/Win32 to get the app going and
> > >> > never learned the details, ie, 23 parameters/functions to paint a
> > >> > bitmap to the screen.
> > >>
> > >> If you're ever in the unfortunate position, again, of having to write
> > >> Windows solutions, ignore MFC and go with ATL/WTL. Considerably better
> and
> > >> less bloated.
> > >>
> > >
> > >MFC being.....Microsoft fucking corruption?
> >
> > Many Foolish Calls. :-)
>
> Massively F*cked up Code
^^^^^^
<Sam Kennison>
Come on just say it....
Say It!...
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY IIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!
</sam kennison>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Arthur Gravity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 06:31:01 GMT
And MS also runs Hotmail on FreeBSD because NT can't handle that much
traffic.
MS Windows is a poorly implemented rip off of MacOS and Unix anyway. And
everybody knows that Steve Jobs and the Apple designers stole the GUI from
Xerox's PARC.
One thing I am liking about this newsgroup is that is far less of the raging
flame war that I had expected, and actually has some interesting threads.
"Nigel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Quke6.944$Ea1.15440@news2-hme0...
>
> > > > Linux on the other hand seems to want to turn the clock back on
> > > > computing and put us back in the early 1990's again.
> > >
> > > I'll just email IBM, Bell Labs, Caltech and the NSA and let them know.
> > >
> >
> > And HP and Sun.
> >
> >
>
> And even Microsoft as they are now using Linux based DNS servers due to
> the unreliability of their own ones.
>
>
>
------------------------------
From: "Arthur Gravity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 06:32:45 GMT
Yeah, what's up with $179 for Windows Me? Why would anyone pay that much
for Windows 4? It is essentially the same product they have been milking
for 6 years. All the 9x Windows OS (Me included) are version 4.x.
LAME!
"Nigel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Zwke6.945$Ea1.15448@news2-hme0...
> >
> > Ahem. Clive Sinclair.
> >
>
> Yes, those were the days - pity that it now costs more for the operating
> system than sinclair charged for the whole system thanks to Micro$oft.
>
>
>
>
------------------------------
From: "Arthur Gravity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 06:41:23 GMT
What about just pressing command-P or CTRL-P to print?
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Storm Linux & Applixware
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 01:41:14 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 10:55:29 GMT, "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> I owned a Caddy, not the Chevette.
> >
> >That's the car to which he referred.
> >
> >Caddies from the 80's were absolute garbage...Especially that Cimmeron
> >thing.
>
> Cimmeron was a pile of garbage. It was a padded Chevy Citation which
Evidently, you're unaware of the auto-industry's "platform" methodology.
You make a base structure, as in this case, the "C Platform", and then
put different sheet metal, instrument panels, and decorative trim on
according to which nameplate the individual machine is being sold under.
A lot of the basic guts (structural components, steering and suspention,
brake systems, etc) are common throughout any one platform..thereby
reducing costs. Each individual division within the corporation then
customizes the platform according to that segment of the market to which
they are trying to sell (based on target personality type, etc.)
Another common platform that comes to mind the Pontiac Thunderbird/Chevy
Camaro. Not sure if they still use the same platform, but for years,
they did.
So, since Citation and Cimarron were the same "C car" they were essentially
the same thing. Sometimes you hear the word "sister car" or something.
The Chrysler "K-cars" were just the three implementations of the Chrysler
"K" platform, as fleshed out by the Dodge, Chrysler and Plymouth divisions.
If you want to know the equivalences, just ask the salesman which
platform a car is, and then ask him what other divisions of the corporation
are using the same platform, and what those cars are.
Some vehicles, of course, don't have any cross-division platforms
(example: Chevy Corvette)
> was Chevy's first attempt at a front wheel drive car. The squared off
> Caddy's (shorter ones) were garbage as was the front wheel drive
> Seville.
> Mine was the standard rear wheel drive Coup De-Ville that they had
> been making since the 1970's. Ran for 298,000 miles before it was rear
> ended by some 90 year old man in a Ford Wagon.
>
>
> Flatfish
> Why do they call it a flatfish?
> Remove the ++++ to reply.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Michael J. Burns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The 130MByte text file
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 06:43:31 GMT
This is fun! Mandrake 7.1 does not recover from my abuse because it
runs out of files before processes. Caldera 1.1 runs out of processes
first and recovers nicely.
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: As Mandrake places no limits on the number of processes, my system was very
: flooded with forked children forking more children. Result - the console
: prompt did not respond. So I had to reboot.
: Michael J. Burns wrote:
:> ...
:> 7. End the crisis by entering "killthis crash" in a console.
:> ...
"killthis.sh crash"
: I couldn't type in any commands, the shell wasn't responding.
: --
: Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
--
Michael J. Burns http://www.indirect.com/www/mburns/
"We are such stuff "Oh brave new world,
As dreams are made on, and our little life That has such people in't!"
Is rounded with a sleep."
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Storm Linux & Applixware
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 01:53:21 -0500
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Tom Wilson wrote:
> > >
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > I owned a Caddy, not the Chevette.
> > >
> > > That's the car to which he referred.
> > >
> > > Caddies from the 80's were absolute garbage...Especially that Cimmeron
> > > thing.
> >
> > EVERYTHING assembled at Cadillac Plant #1 during those years sucked.
> >
> > On the other hand, they had THE BEST chrome line in the world.
> >
> > The steel was first heavily electroplated with copper before the chrome
> > was electroplated on. This is why rust on Cadillac chrome was an
> > exceptionally rare occurance. The chrome line next to Scotten Avenue
> > was rated the best in the world for something like 40 years continously.
> >
>
> I'd like to see chrome make a comeback...
> And not that plated plastic crap either!
I dought it ever will. At least not for bumpers.
Chrome plating was put on bumpers SPECIFICALLY because they are
meant to get dinged up. When properly plated (i.e. with a copper
intermediate layer), they can survive a lot of abuse.
However, with the demise of crome bumpers for the cheaper and more
abuse-resistant styrofoam-sheathed-in-plastic, the primary reason
for having most chrome-plate operations is gone. (In addition, there
are other reasons the OEMs want to minimize chrome-plate parts:
liability problems with the chemicals involved)
So now, most appearance-oriented designers aren't thinking in
terms of chrome anymore...and those who do...are, shall we say,
discouraged from pursuing it by the guys in legal and accounting.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list by posting to comp.os.linux.advocacy.
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Advocacy Digest
******************************
