Linux-Advocacy Digest #974, Volume #33 Fri, 27 Apr 01 05:13:03 EDT
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Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (GreyCloud)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (GreyCloud)
These people *LOVE* Microsoft ("Interconnect")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (GreyCloud)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (GreyCloud)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (GreyCloud)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (GreyCloud)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (GreyCloud)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (GreyCloud)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (GreyCloud)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (GreyCloud)
Re: e: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("jet")
Re: Intel versus Sparc (GreyCloud)
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:57:27 -0700
"You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
>
> Spot the reality!
You must be from some other planet. Liberals don't know about reality!
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> > >
> > > Perhaps because little macho right wing turds generally beat the shit
> > > out of women, and not vice versa?
> >
> > Spot the demonization.
> >
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > tom parker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 24 Apr 2001 22:48:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:38:22 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >Hatred of male-hating sexism =/= hatred of women.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> You said women are better off when they are not allowed to walk in
> > > > > >>> the street without male company.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> That's pretty hateful.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Ask a woman who'se been raped while walking home alone at night.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >For a self-proclaimed freedom lover, you have a very hard time
> > > > > >noticing the difference between personal preference and enforced
> > > > > >restriction.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >If those women prefer to walk alone, they should be able to.
> > > > > >If those women prefer not to walk alone, they should be able to.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you will settle for probabilities, the women shouldn't worry about
> > > > > it as much as the men. By far the greatest number of victims of
> > > > > violence of all kinds are men. (In the US anyway).
> > > >
> > > > Very true.
> > > >
> > > > If the Feministas are interested in *EQUALITY*, then why aren't they
> > > > out moaning and screeching for a "Violence Against Men Act" ???
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Parker
> > > > > Stupidity is Evil waiting to happen. - Keith Thernes
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > > DNRC Minister of all I survey, right wing dufus, gynophobe, and hypocrite
> > > > ICQ # 3056642
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
> >
> > L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
> > can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > K: Truth in advertising:
> > Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> > Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> > Special Interest Sierra Club,
> > Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> > Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> > The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> > Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> >
> > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> > The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> > also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> >
> > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> > challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> > between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> > Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> >
> > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> > premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> > you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> > you are lazy, stupid people"
> >
> > G: Knackos...you're a retard.
> >
> > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> >
> > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> > her behavior improves.
> >
> > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > ...despite (C) above.
> >
> > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> >
> > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> > method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> > direction that she doesn't like.
> >
> > A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:59:30 -0700
"You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
>
> Hey, Kulkis, I'll retract my opinion that you are a liar as
> well as a farce, if you can provide a single citation of the Nazis
> saying such about the Jews.
>
> Or, we might get the idea that you want to brand anyone not thinking
> like a little right wing gestapo as a 'Nazi'.
>
Typical comment from liberal thinking people... wait till the shoe is on
the other foot!
Worse yet... wait till that shoe starts to drop!
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> > >
> > > Perhaps because little macho right wing turds generally beat the shit
> > > out of women, and not vice versa?
> >
> > That's what the Nazis said about the Jews.
> >
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > tom parker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 24 Apr 2001 22:48:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:38:22 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >Hatred of male-hating sexism =/= hatred of women.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> You said women are better off when they are not allowed to walk in
> > > > > >>> the street without male company.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> That's pretty hateful.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Ask a woman who'se been raped while walking home alone at night.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >For a self-proclaimed freedom lover, you have a very hard time
> > > > > >noticing the difference between personal preference and enforced
> > > > > >restriction.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >If those women prefer to walk alone, they should be able to.
> > > > > >If those women prefer not to walk alone, they should be able to.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you will settle for probabilities, the women shouldn't worry about
> > > > > it as much as the men. By far the greatest number of victims of
> > > > > violence of all kinds are men. (In the US anyway).
> > > >
> > > > Very true.
> > > >
> > > > If the Feministas are interested in *EQUALITY*, then why aren't they
> > > > out moaning and screeching for a "Violence Against Men Act" ???
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Parker
> > > > > Stupidity is Evil waiting to happen. - Keith Thernes
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > > DNRC Minister of all I survey, right wing dufus, gynophobe, and hypocrite
> > > > ICQ # 3056642
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
> >
> > L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
> > can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > K: Truth in advertising:
> > Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> > Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> > Special Interest Sierra Club,
> > Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> > Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> > The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> > Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> >
> > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> > The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> > also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> >
> > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> > challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> > between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> > Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> >
> > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> > premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> > you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> > you are lazy, stupid people"
> >
> > G: Knackos...you're a retard.
> >
> > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> >
> > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> > her behavior improves.
> >
> > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > ...despite (C) above.
> >
> > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> >
> > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> > method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> > direction that she doesn't like.
> >
> > A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Interconnect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: These people *LOVE* Microsoft
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:12:58 +1000
The following link takes you to a message board dedicated to Horizons. ( A
fantasy roleplaying game. )
Many contributors to this thread appear to be one eyed WinDoze users.
I would like to see some of our COLA members inject their thoughts on the MS
V other operating system issue unashamedly biased in favor of Linux of
course. Hehe.
http://216.122.177.238/horizons/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=0
00887&p=2
Cheers
Mark
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:03:53 -0700
"Scott D. Erb" wrote:
>
> Lynette Warren wrote:
>
> >what a scam American feminism truly is
>
> How do you define feminism? In feminist theory they are many kinds. A
> minority of radical feminists veer towards biological determinism and a
> view that men are the main problem. I find them as misguided as radical
> male chauvinists. American feminism is dominated by a view that says
> women should not be paid less for their work because of their gender,
> that women and men should be equal in relationships, forming a
> partnership where they choose freely the roles they want to play and make
> decisions together. American feminism would say women can lead as well
> as men, that it is just as proper for women to protect themselves, carry
> firearms, and engage in risky activities as men. I find it hard to
> believe that any woman or man would deny that women should be accepted as
> equal partners to men both in relationships and in society.
>
> Don't you feel that way?
>
All well and swell until wife can't handle it anymore... that's where
the husband steps in to protect her from any more stress. Currently, I
have a wife that I can depend upon for sensitivity, and she relies on me
for strength. We both accept each others talents to get things done.
Equality is a badly misused word today. I prefer to think that it is an
adjunct to each other.
> I actually find constructivist feminists, a minority, to have some
> convincing arguments as well. They believe that society has privileged
> so-called masculine traits (strength, power, objectivity, lack of
> emotion, domination, etc.) while seeing so-called feminine traits as
> things to be ridiculed (empathy, love, concern, caring, subjectivity,
> cooperation). They tend to argue that either extreme is bad (leading to
> co-dependency problems for women and a willingess to let the man walk
> over her without her standing up for her interests; and leading to a cold
> focus on power for men, and difficulties to show honest emotion and
> develop empathy and caring for others. They argue the impact of this
> polarization (lack of balance) shows itself in international politics,
> domestic politics, and individual relationships. However, the kind of
> "liberal feminism" I describe above tends to be the dominant one in the
> US.
> cheers, scott
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:05:01 -0700
Chad Everett wrote:
>
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:22:58 -0400, Scott D. Erb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Lynette Warren wrote:
> >
> >>what a scam American feminism truly is
> >
> >How do you define feminism? In feminist theory they are many kinds. A
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> What the heck is "feminist theory"?
Another buzz word invented by liberals. It has no meaning.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:06:18 -0700
J D wrote:
>
> Chad Everett wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:22:58 -0400, Scott D. Erb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Lynette Warren wrote:
> > >
> > >>what a scam American feminism truly is
> > >
> > >How do you define feminism? In feminist theory they are many kinds. A
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > What the heck is "feminist theory"?
>
> You are asking Scotti? What a waste of time. What it is today may or not
> be what he says it is tomorrow. Scottie kind of makes up his definitions as
> he goes. On the fly so to speak. Too bad it couldn't be on the mosquito as well.
>
> Jack
Well put Jack! :-)
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:10:24 -0700
"You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
>
> Feminism is about women getting pissed off at little gynophobic
> right wing turds like YOU.
>
Go live in a third world country and then come back and tell us all
about how you fared!
I've heard about your type... no thanks... a PITA!
> Anyone who thinks women ought to have equal treatment and pay is a
> 'rabid marxist' in your stupid view.
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > "You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> > >
> > > Geez, Aaron, it DOESN'T HELP.
> > >
> > > STILL sounds like you are coming from a right wing dufus
> >
> > Translation: anybody who isn't a rabid marxist
> >
> > > gynophobe
> >
> > translation: any man who doesn't play dormat for shrill, male-hating feminists.
> >
> > > sour grapes
> >
> > speculation.
> >
> > > political stance..
> >
> > You think Feminism isn't about politics?
> >
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Chad Everett wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:28:52 GMT, Scott Erb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Chad Everett wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:22:58 -0400, Scott D. Erb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >Lynette Warren wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >>what a scam American feminism truly is
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >How do you define feminism? In feminist theory they are many kinds. A
> > > > > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> What the heck is "feminist theory"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Did you read beyond that point? I explained a bit about it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes I did. What I gathered is that "feminist theory" is very much like
> > > > > "bigotry theory".
> > > >
> > > > Feminism is a system for oppressing the average men.
> > > >
> > > > Males in *elite* positions in our society support it, because they'll
> > > > use any excuse to oppress other men.
> > > >
> > > > Hope that helps.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > > DNRC Minister of all I survey
--
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:11:54 -0700
theRadical wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:59:32 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >"You've got MALE.. sex organs!" wrote:
> >>
> >> Geez, Aaron, it DOESN'T HELP.
> >>
> >> STILL sounds like you are coming from a right wing dufus
> >
> >Translation: anybody who isn't a rabid marxist
>
> don't you love how anyone who doesn't agree with kulkis is a marxist?
>
Maybe you were raised by marxist and didn't know it.
Keep smiling,... Stalin loves you.
> >
> >
> >> gynophobe
> >
> >translation: any man who doesn't play dormat for shrill, male-hating feminists.
> >
> >
> >> sour grapes
> >
> >
> >speculation.
> >
> >> political stance..
> >
> >
> >You think Feminism isn't about politics?
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Chad Everett wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:28:52 GMT, Scott Erb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Chad Everett wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:22:58 -0400, Scott D. Erb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >Lynette Warren wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >>what a scam American feminism truly is
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >How do you define feminism? In feminist theory they are many kinds. A
> >> > > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> What the heck is "feminist theory"?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Did you read beyond that point? I explained a bit about it.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes I did. What I gathered is that "feminist theory" is very much like
> >> > > "bigotry theory".
> >> >
> >> > Feminism is a system for oppressing the average men.
> >> >
> >> > Males in *elite* positions in our society support it, because they'll
> >> > use any excuse to oppress other men.
> >> >
> >> > Hope that helps.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> >> > Unix Systems Engineer
> >> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> >> > ICQ # 3056642
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:55:26 +0200
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Cw4G6.172442$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Availability with Win2K AS is extremely high. Unfortunately, it's
> impossible to compare it with Linux since Linux simply cannot
> play at that high of an enterprise level. Linux has high availability
> when you're running a DNS, DHCP, or FTP server perhaps, but it can't
> seem to do much else without falling over. Lord knows it's
> not a stable, nor secure web platform.
I just came from a computer where Linux would kernel panic if it was on
anything but primary master.
It said it can't mount root.
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:59:41 +0200
"Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3ae8f365$0$21716$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> When I think stability and reliability and uptime - I want to know about
> unexpected downtime - scheduled reboots for hardware shouldn't count
against
> uptime calculations.
They aren't, 99.999% reffer to unscheduale downtime.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:13:48 -0700
theRadical wrote:
>
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:10:10 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Chad Everett wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:28:52 GMT, Scott Erb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Chad Everett wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:22:58 -0400, Scott D. Erb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Lynette Warren wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>what a scam American feminism truly is
> >> >> >
> >> >> >How do you define feminism? In feminist theory they are many kinds. A
> >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >>
> >> >> What the heck is "feminist theory"?
> >> >
> >> >Did you read beyond that point? I explained a bit about it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Yes I did. What I gathered is that "feminist theory" is very much like
> >> "bigotry theory".
> >
> >
> >Feminism is a system for oppressing the average men.
> >
> >Males in *elite* positions in our society support it, because they'll
> >use any excuse to oppress other men.
> >
> >
> >Hope that helps.
>
> more ignorant ramblings of a proven liar.
Hmmmm... have you changed your handle??
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:16:23 -0700
"John T. Kennedy" wrote:
>
> I eavesdropped on my masters and "Scott D. Erb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said: Last night I had the strangest dream...
>
> >
> >
> >Lynette Warren wrote:
> >
> >>what a scam American feminism truly is
> >
> >How do you define feminism? In feminist theory they are many kinds. A
> >minority of radical feminists veer towards biological determinism and a
> >view that men are the main problem. I find them as misguided as radical
> >male chauvinists. American feminism is dominated by a view that says
> >women should not be paid less for their work because of their gender,
>
> Does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to pay women whatever I choose?
>
> I mean is this a wish and a prayer, or do you want to put the force of
> the state behind it?
>
> >that women and men should be equal in relationships, forming a
> >partnership where they choose freely the roles they want to play and make
> >decisions together.
>
> What would stop women from doing that in a free market?
>
> > American feminism would say women can lead as well
> >as men, that it is just as proper for women to protect themselves, carry
> >firearms, and engage in risky activities as men. I find it hard to
> >believe that any woman or man would deny that women should be accepted as
> >equal partners to men both in relationships and in society.
>
> Well that would neatly define feminism into pure meaninglessness, if
> you can't conceive of someone holding a contrary view, wouldn't it
> Scott?
>
> >
> >Don't you feel that way?
> >
> >I actually find constructivist feminists, a minority, to have some
> >convincing arguments as well. They believe that society has privileged
> >so-called masculine traits (strength, power, objectivity, lack of
> >emotion, domination, etc.) while seeing so-called feminine traits as
> >things to be ridiculed (empathy, love, concern, caring, subjectivity,
> >cooperation). They tend to argue that either extreme is bad (leading to
> >co-dependency problems for women and a willingess to let the man walk
> >over her without her standing up for her interests; and leading to a cold
> >focus on power for men, and difficulties to show honest emotion and
> >develop empathy and caring for others.
>
> Maybe these women just need to suck it up a little and start acting
> like men once in a while.
>
First they'd have to grow some balls.
> >They argue the impact of this
> >polarization (lack of balance) shows itself in international politics,
> >domestic politics, and individual relationships. However, the kind of
> >"liberal feminism" I describe above tends to be the dominant one in the
> >US.
> >cheers, scott
> >
>
> -
>
> John Thomas Kennedy III
> The Wild Shall Ever Wild Remain!
> http://www.mindspring.com/~jtkennedy/itswhatitisnow.html
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:21:25 -0700
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:38:22 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Hatred of male-hating sexism =/= hatred of women.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You said women are better off when they are not allowed to walk in
> > > > >> the street without male company.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> That's pretty hateful.
> > > > >
> > > > >Ask a woman who'se been raped while walking home alone at night.
> > > >
> > > > For a self-proclaimed freedom lover, you have a very hard time
> > > > noticing the difference between personal preference and enforced
> > > > restriction.
> > >
> > > he has the same problem with microsoft's right to sign contracts and the
> > > consumer's right to choose whatever os they please.
> >
> > No..only when the consumer is DENIED the right to choose whatever OS they
> please.
>
> Funny; I've _never_ been deined the right to choose whatever OS I please.
> Nor has anyone else I've ever heard of. Even if I get a particular OS
> preinstalled, I can always pick another one, right?
>
> Oh, maybe your local CompuShop or whatever doesn't sell your pet OS. Fine,
> can it be ordered from an online vendor? Purchased from another local
> vendor? Purchased from a store one state over?
>
CompuShop? What is that?
In the average suburbia, you get Win98 or WinMe. You have to ask if
they even sell Win2K let alone Linux.
I live near Seattle.... Bill Gates Home!
I called Sun and ordered my O/S direct. Very good O/S... all UNIX!
> No, wait, it is, I suppose, possible that you do happen to live in some
> obscure location that _none_ of the online vendors will deliver to, that
> only has one local vendor, a vendor who doesn't carry that OS, that you're
> confined to your location, that you have no friends or family who could
> purchase it on your behalf, that you don't trust anyone, anywhere, enough to
> have them buy it for you (or they don't like or trust you enough to do it on
> your behalf)...
>
> Yeesh, with that level of restriction on your ability to do things, I'd
> think not being able to get your particular OS would be the least of your
> worries.
>
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
>
> [snip of stupid sig-bomb]
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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: e: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:39:43 -0700
Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> jet wrote:
> >
> > The Ghost In The Machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, jet
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote
> > > on Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:34:06 -0700
> > > <9c077p$2rlc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >
> > > >Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >> jet wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > [snip for brevity]
> > >
> > > >> I think she was complaining that Lara Croft represented unrealistic
> > body
> > > >> proportions
> > > >
> > > >Well, um, duh. And so what?
> > >
> > > Well, there might be one advantage to being, erm, proportioned like
L.C.;
> > > presumably, she can hold the automatic weapon in front of her and
> > > the kickback from said rifle would keep her from tipping forward. :-)
> > >
> >
> > Ah, so, it's all for the sake of science. :)
> >
> > > I would think a more logical physique would be lithe and
> > > skinny, with a sports bra/shorts type outfit for hot weather as
> > > she runs around from dangerous point to dangerous point trying
> > > to keep from getting shot. Mind you, in cooler weather, camos would
> > > probably work a lot better.... :-) but really, her current green
outfit
> > > would stick out like a sore thumb anywhere she wanted to try to hide.
> > > Realistic? Yeah right...but then, guess what the target market is?
> > > Hint: it's not post-pubescent females...
> > >
> > > However, one might also go for squat and muscular; L.C.'s waist
> > > looks wonderful, but I doubt it gives her the ability to
> > > breathe deeply should she need the energy. (Think a combination
> > > of opera singer and SWAT commando. :-) )
> > >
> > > >
> > > >>and that that somehow prevented young girls from entering
> > > >> into Math/Science.
> > > >
> > > >Barbie dolls didn't stop me.
> > >
> > > Personally, I wonder who the dumbass was who programmed in the
> > > "Math is haaaaaaard" into them at one point.
> > >
> >
> > I don't see the problem with that. So what if math is hard? It was hard
for
> > me at times. I think taking that away sends a worse message: girls can't
do
> > or shouldn't attempt hard things.
> >
> > J
>
> What a unique way of looking at that. I would've expected you to be
> humorless about such a situation, guess it goes to show you shouldn't
> judge someone by their cover.
Me, houmorless?
>
> You can tell when someone is truly successful when they don't let
> something silly like a childhood doll stand in their way. Congrats.
>
> --
> - Brent
Thank you.
J
>
> http://rotten168.home.att.net
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intel versus Sparc
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:30:30 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Yeah, no crap.
> >
> > *** NEWS FLASH ***
> >
> > Writing code that works only on 64-bit platforms may crash on 32-bit
> > platforms!
> >
> > *** NEWS FLASH ***
> >
> > -c
>
> Do you try to spout the most pointless crap possible, or is it just
> natural?
>
> --
> http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
LOL! Some people are just wired that way.
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