Linux-Advocacy Digest #163, Volume #32           Tue, 13 Feb 01 01:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Linux Threat: non-existant (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Indrema fan site (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Answer this if you can... (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux Threat: non-existant ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Answer this if you can... (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: IDE v. SCSI: Long-Term Review. (WAS: Crappy CDROM?) (Bloody Viking)
  Re: ERIK FUNKENBUSH CAN'T TELL US ***WHAT*** .NET IS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: The Wintrolls ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Interesting article ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: I just realized why Google bought Deja.com (Crgre Jvyyneq)
  Re: linux is dieing (Bloody Viking)
  Re: Answer this if you can... (Aaron Kulkis)
  Re: Linux Threat: non-existant ("Chris Bennetts")

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:02:49 -0500



Pete Goodwin wrote:
> 
> Mart van de Wege wrote:
> 
> > I just checked the gimp. It defaults to default printer queue,
> > but it uses the option -oraw.
> > It appears that Pete is right. The gimp does not use his defined
> > printer, but dumps raw PS to his Epson. This is
> > counterintuitive, as all other Linux programs generally take the
> > user-defined default queue.
> > It is however a gimp issue, not a Linux one.
> 
> You're right, this is a Gimp issue, not Linux. I know I keep lumping this
> all on Linux's broad shoulders, but that's the way it'll be perceived by
> the majority - especially if they install a single distribution. It may be
> technically wrong, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

And so, In your typical fashion...you've been GLEEFULLY spreading
misinformation.


> 
> --
> ---
> Pete Goodwin, running Linux Mandrake 7.2

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux Threat: non-existant
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:06:18 -0500



pip wrote:
> 
> Lloyd Llewellyn wrote:
> >
> > > It's kind of ironic. Every time we do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to get a
> > > new version of debian, Wintrolls have to *pay* for a new version of
> > > Windows. The higher sales figures they are bragging about are a direct
> > > result of them being forced to make more purchases. What a laugh!!
> >
> > Yes, it's very ironic that Windows enthusiasts keep bringing up how much
> > money MS has managed to extort from the market as a result of its
> > monopoly.
> 
> All true - but remember - M$ is a monopoly because they
> sold what people wanted to buy at a time when the alternatives
> were crap. You could arue that

Wrong.  DR-DOS 3.0 had features that M$ never implemented until 5.x and
6.x

Not only that, but it crashed a lot less and DR sold DR-DOS for almost
50%
*LESS* than MS sold MS-DOS.

So...MS arm-twisted OEM's into charging customers for an MS-DOS license
even if the customer wanted DR-DOS and did *NOT* have MS-DOS on the
machine.




> 1. OS is a natural monopoly
>         API's, file formats and device drivers are all serious "lock-in"
> 2. Monopolies exist because they are the best at the time
>         M$ provided a platform with better software than Apple did at the time
> 
> They are now of course a deeply evil company in their tactics dept.

They are an evil company because they have a 20-year history of criminal
behavior.

What part of CONVICTED do you not understand?


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Indrema fan site
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:07:12 -0500



William Kendrick wrote:
> 
> I've created a fan site dedicated to the upcoming
> "Indrema Entertainment System," a Linux-based game console with many
> home entertainment features (DVD player, MP3 support, TiVo-like features).
> 
> Currently the site contains links to news articles about the Indrema
> (more news than the Indrema itself has links to!), a collection of
> notable mailing list comments from the Indrema staff (a useful addition
> to the Indrema website's FAQs), and links to other
> Indrema-related websites.
> 
>   Bill Kendrick's Indrema Site
>   http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/bill/indrema/
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> -bill!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/bill/

Get a life.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Answer this if you can...
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:09:38 -0500



John Muir wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:37:14 +0100, Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> >Just stick with Windows kid... you will be much happier with it.
> >
> You said it.
> 
> >Just use the rpm name.. this works for must cases or use MC to browse the
> >bin directory in the RPM.. Not very hard to do. If you use Gome or KDE apps
> >then they will have a menu entry just like in Windows.. See not that
> >difficult.. kids learn this after 5 minuttes on Linux
> 
> This is simply not true. I recently installed Mozilla, StarOffice 5.2
> and Forte 1.0.2 and none of then adden a Gnome menu entry.
> 
> Its laughable but I also find that the DOS program MC (Midnicht
> Commander) is one of the most productive tools on Linux!

It's not a "DOS program"...it's a user interface which was originally
implemented in DOS (primarily because MS command.com is such a lousy
piece of shit).


> 
> >
> >> I want to copy a line of text from my xterm window (or browser window)
> >> to another app ... forget it! EVERY Windows app can cut & paste to
> >> another app, why not Linux? This is CRIMINAL!
> >
> >Lets see.. i fire up netscape 4.75, i mark a teskt and paste it here with
> >middel button (scroll mouse) or Ctrl-V (just checked) "You have installed
> >the easy-to-use and pre-configured Linux Mandrake system on your computer."
> >(from navigator startpage).. Wow it works.. thats amazing... now lets try
> >to make it paste on a terminal window... lets use good old Xterm.. WOW.. it
> >even works when i click the middel button.. lets try with Ctrl-V..Uhhh...
> >does not want that... what about vi (VIM) in a term.. yeps it works... I
> >give up more tries... it shure looks as it works...
> >Can we conclude something out of this ?
> >
> Yes, why do I need to install yet another to get what should be an
> integral system-wide function - cut & paste.
> 
> >
> >> I can't get the delete key to delete the character to the RIGHT of the
> >> insertion cursor in X. (Please don't even try to tell me that
> >> 'historic' reasons related to teletypes and punched tape have any
> >> rele-vance to today). In spite of almost a whole day spent reading
> >> HOWTO's and searching Google et al, if I enter <ctrl>-v then the
> >> 'delete' key is STILL COMES BACK WITH '^?' INSTEAD OF '[[3~' although
> >> outside of X it works fine. That I should even have to know such
> >> arcane crap in 2001 is a total mystery to me.
> >
> >Works fine here in knode, Netscape, kwrite, gedit.. Give me a program where
> >it does not work.
> 
> xterm
> >
> >
> >Could you provide a link to Linux source code that is "spaghetti code" ?
> >No i dont think you can.. youre just wabbling
> >
> If functionality is spread around instead of being encapsulated in ONE
> module, that spaghetti code in my book.
> 
> >> If Linux was a half-decent system there would only be ONE place to set
> >> key mappings, but oh no 'its sooo flexible, you can set the key
> >> mappings in round about 10 to 20 different places', wow! That's really
> >> cool!
> >
> >That surely is.. it just takes some brain to use a system of its kind to
> >ones advantage. You are not capable too... make the conclusion yourself.
> 
> Look here http://aterm.sourceforge.net/keyboard.html before you
> criticize too much my friend.
> 
> >
> >> If a programmer of mine put such a 'solution' to me I would think
> >> seriously of firing him/her.
> >> </tirade>
> >
> >I doubt you  are in a position to fire someone.
> >
> Just try me.

Ok, John...fire me.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Feb 2001 15:20:12 +1100

Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Which brings up one of my pet peeves --- how *do* you print a postscript
>> file to a postscript printer under Windows? Note: Under *Windows*. Not
>> under DOS.

>Unless your printer understands postscript, you can't.

I have this nagging suspicion that most postscript printers do, in fact,
understand postscript.....

>You could use  Ghostview, I suppose.

This question is more along the lines of "I have a file that my printer will
understand. How do I get it there?".

Bernie

-- 
I'm the one that has to die when it's time for me to die, so let me
    live my life, the way I want to
Jimi Hendrix
American guitarist, 1942-70

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux Threat: non-existant
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Feb 2001 16:08:10 +1100

"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>You proved my point for me. There are tens of millions of computer
>users,

Hundreds of millions, actually.

>of which only a couple hundred thousand are day-to-day
>Linux users.

>That's less than one percent of one percent. Even the more reason
>to ignore the Penguinistas.

If "a couple hundred thousand" are less than 1% of 1%, then the total
number needs to be "a couple billion" people.....

And as for the "couple hundred thousand" number --- that's pretty much
the number of people who actually went to counter.li.org and explicitly
registered, with no benefit whatsoever to them. Do you really think that's
the total number?

IDC has stated that linux had 15.8% of the 4.4 million unit server OS market
*in 1998*. That's roughly half a million more than "couple hundred thousand".
In one year. In servers alone. 3 years ago. For 1999, IDC counted 1.3r million
linux server shipments. IDC ignores downloads.
Also in 1998, 60,000 people *preregistered* to be able to download WordPerfect
for Linux a couple of days before the rest of the world. According to you,
that's 1/3 of today's Linux population... The total number of downloads
has now reached 1,240,928. So every Linux user, according to you, has
downloaded this 23.6MB package from download.com not once, not twice, but
six times....
The latest Netcraft survey found Apache on 16 million web servers. While
obviously not all of those are running on Linux, suggesting that less than
2% do is silly --- and that would be assuming that nobody uses Linux for
anything other than a web server.

Bernie
-- 
It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it
    and remove all doubt.
Mark Twain
American writer, 1835-1910

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Answer this if you can...
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:11:47 -0500



John Muir wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:47:43 GMT, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >> Its laughable but I also find that the DOS program MC (Midnicht
> >> Commander) is one of the most productive tools on Linux!
> >
> >I think you mean "mc", not "MC".
> 
> Only unix needs this.
> 
> >It's unclear why you call this a "dos program" but it was
> >written IIRC by Miguel De Icaza, star of "Antitrust".
> >
> Its a Linux clone of Norton Commander a DOS programm from the 80's.

Wrong...it's a USER INTERFACE which was originally implemented on
the DOS platform (probably because DOS was the system most in need
of a replacement interface...because command.com has always been
a sucky piece of cruft-ware).

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Subject: Re: IDE v. SCSI: Long-Term Review. (WAS: Crappy CDROM?)
Date: 13 Feb 2001 05:14:35 GMT


Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: Also...in that capacity, IDE is best used as a simple raw block device
: (no filesystem...just huge block of storage...like a tape).

You could just tar -cvf the filesystem to /dev/hdc and the hard drive has your 
tarball sans filesystem. Exactly like a tape on UNIX and Linux. Wouldn't even 
have to partition it. If it is partitioned, tar to /dev/hdc* instead. 

Just today, I bought a 40G hard drive and a funny PCI card with a BIOS on it 
to handle big drives, IDE of course. I intend to use this as a backup device 
but I bet I will only be able to use it with DOS. I'll try my luck with Linux 
and report on success or failure. A funny thing I found with SCSI and 
unsupported cards is that becuse the hard drive part of the BIOS must work 
with no OS, unsupported cards can be used with hard drives on Linux. Whether 
this gadget is the same or not, I'll soon enough find out! If my gadget is 
DOS-only, I'll still be able to do backups by tarring in Linux to the normal 
DOS partition then reboot to store it in the giant hard drive. The card can 
handle 128G drives, 4 of them. Half a terabyte! 

But oddly enough, I can not install LILO on a SCSI hard drive with a 
_supported_ card. But my LILO problems are NOT typical, I admit. 

--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: ERIK FUNKENBUSH CAN'T TELL US ***WHAT*** .NET IS
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 05:15:12 GMT

In article <Wy0i6.30212$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"chrisv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >> To you, sir, I say, "wake up and smell the coffee".
>> >
>> >BLACK HELIOCOPTERS! HERE THEY COME, RUN FOR COVER!
>>
>> Yep, we're all paranoid.  Microsoft doesn't really want to monopolize
>> things.  They don't want to maximize the amount of money they make.
>
>You make it to seem like they have a secret army that will invade
>your house if you don't buy their products.
>
>Give me a break. Go back to the looney bin where you came from.
>
    I don't think they are particularly "secret" but the SPA qualifies
    as an organization which will invade homes and businesses trying to
    confiscate any computer equipment which has been "touched" by
    software which you cannot prove, to *their* satisfaction, was
    licensed properly.

-- 
How much do we need to pay you to screw Netscape?
        - BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meeting

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The Wintrolls
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 05:15:12 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ray Chason  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>But.. but.. All you linux people said that there is no reason to recompile
>>your kernels, so why would this knowledge be "common" and "one of the first
>>things you learn" if you don't need to ever do it?
>
>Some reasons you might wish to recompile your kernel:
>
>    * to set its processor optimization for your specific CPU;
>    * to remove unneeded drivers, or spin them off as modules;
>    * to reinstate such drivers after a previous recompile, should they
>      again become necessary;
>    * to upgrade to a new kernel version, or apply a patch.
>
>Any others?
>
    Erik, please note that these are reasons you *might* want to not
    things that everybody *must* do.

    Lots of people run stock distro kernels and only upgrade from a
    newer CD every couple of years.

    Others run the original kernel because it does the job and is not
    placed where security matters.

    I have a friend in that condition with his 386/SX which does network
    printing for a bunch of Windows boxes and has for years.  He did not
    even know that the monitor had burned out till they were rearranging
    the servers recently.

-- 
How much do we need to pay you to screw Netscape?
        - BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meeting

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 05:15:12 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
T. Max Devlin  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Said Jerry McBride in alt.destroy.microsoft on Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:11:04
>   [...]
>>> IBM got lots right with OS/2, their marketing sucked big time.
>>
>>That, I totally agree with. If IBM had BIGGER BALLS and pushed a lot harder
>>when MicroSoft started their BS, I think all this crap with the DOJ and MS
>>would never have been an issue. IBM missed this target, BIG TIME. But then
>>again maybe Linux wouldn't be the same as it is now.
>
>This is where I jump in and point out that no amount of competitive
>action will counter anti-competitive actions.  If the would-be
>monopolist has enough market power to wield monopoly power, they win; no
>amount of marketing or technical development will counter this.
>
    Recall that IBM had just barely escaped being broken up in an
    antitrust trial of their own.

    They knew that M$ was locking in a monopoly and that no amount of
    competition could overcome that so they paid the extortion,
    figuring that they had been around for over a hundred years and
    that they would be around when the memory of Bill's Boys was only in
    history books.

    I wonder if Bill will be annoyed to be remembered as the last Robber
    Baron of the Twentieth Century ?

-- 
How much do we need to pay you to screw Netscape?
        - BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meeting

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Crgre Jvyyneq)
Crossposted-To: alt.religion.kibology,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: I just realized why Google bought Deja.com
Date: 13 Feb 2001 04:39:05 GMT

[Leeb, alt.religion.kibology, Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:18:56 GMT]

>You know, I betcha the fine folks at Google are going to grep
>Usenet posts for URLs and use them as pointers to stuff on
>the Web. 

Also, they'll get at least one new, good search algorithim out
of it, I betcha.

-- 
Crgre http://www.drizzle.com/~petew
"Does your imaginary friend make you invisible too? Who
notices?" -- Ric Carter 
                    

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Subject: Re: linux is dieing
Date: 13 Feb 2001 05:22:07 GMT


Henry_Barta ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

:     As far as firewalling goes, how far could a cracker get w/out
:     the ability to create a disk file. (Note, this is *not* a
:     challenge! :)

Now that you posted it, some fuckwit will try. It'll be kind of hard to crack 
a system with a read-only filesystem though. 

:     time, I'm curious to see how long it'll run. At the moment,
:     that appears to be as long as Commonwealth Edison can supply
:     reliable power.

How much battery does your UPS have? A laptop on my UPS would run for HOURS in 
a blackout. I wouldn't exactly call ComEd "reliable power". 

--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.

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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Answer this if you can...
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:24:53 -0500



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:43:02 -0500, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >that's why their software is so insecure right? B/c they think people
> >getting viruses and having their data erased is a good thing and shows
> >they care about their users?
> 
> People get virii because they are stupid and that stupidity includes
> running Outlook.
> 

So, what you're saying then, is .... Most Windows users are stupid.

...that's PRECISELY what we've been telling you, CLAIRE.


> >i guess Flat doesn't even know that there is a HUGE KB on microsoft.com.
> 
> Sure I do, but I rarely if ever have to use it.
> 
> Flatfish
> Why do they call it a flatfish?
> Remove the ++++ to reply.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Chris Bennetts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux Threat: non-existant
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:28:13 +1100


"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:5H0i6.30249$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> You proved my point for me. There are tens of millions of computer
> users, of which only a couple hundred thousand are day-to-day
> Linux users.

Umm, around 300 hundred million computer users. And circa 10-20 million
Linux users (and increasing). That gives Linux about half a percent of the
market at least, certainly not less than one percent of one percent.

> That's less than one percent of one percent. Even the more reason
> to ignore the Penguinistas.

You should go back to about year 7 or 8 and learn basic multiplication and
division. Using the original (highly flawed) example: tens of millions of
computer users (say 50 million for the sake of argument) and a couple of
hundred thousand Linux users (say 500 thousand).

Number of Linux users / Number of computer users = 500 000 / 50 000 000 = 1
/ 100 = 0.01 = 1%

Now 1% of 1%, OTOH is 0.0001.

Go back to school.

--Chris



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