Linux-Advocacy Digest #304, Volume #32 Mon, 19 Feb 01 00:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Interesting article ("Les Mikesell")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: It's just too easy (Brent Pathakis)
Re: Who is the most heavily killfiled person on cola? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: The Windows guy. (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (T. Max Devlin)
Re: It's just too easy (mlw)
Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls. (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls. (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Interesting article ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 04:19:40 GMT
"Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ncUj6.32790$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> >
> > It is made for a different purpose than terminal services. VNC is not
the
> > speediest of programs - I don't know where the bottleneck is (our
network is
> > often quite slow for some purposes), but I do know that other people use
it
> > happily on dial-up links.
>
> I'm not sure where the speed problem is either, however, I've noticed that
> on the host system, when no one is connected to the server, sometimes
> VNC will take 70% of the CPU time for no apparent reason. Sometimes, the
> whole system (at the local console) seems bogged down. I think VNC does
> some trickery at the video level that slows down the whole works, even
> when no one is connected. I had to uninstall it because I couldn't
> even work while physically sitting at the box.
Your installation is broken somehow. VNC should use no system time unless
someone is connected. If you are displaying motion graphics it can consume
some CPU time, although I think it limits itself somehow. It only scans the
screen for changes as fast as it can transmit them and does not force the
real screen to wait for the remote updates.
> A buffer overflow exploit was discovered last month, IIRC. This means
> all servers running the VNC server are vulnerable to all the common
> buffer overflow cracking techniques (arbitrary code execution, privilege
> escalation, etc).
Aren't these found about every week in the native windows code anyway?
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:20:36 -0500
Mart van de Wege wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > At the time of the deregulation, we had a healthy surplus of
> > electric power. It's now a deficit, and PG&E is bleeding
> > badly.
> >
> > In other words, the goverment botched the deregulation by
> > imposing a price ceiling.
> >
> > At least, that's my understanding of the situation. TURN and
> > other such groups may see things quite differently. :-)
> >
> > [.sigsnip]
> >
> Don't know much about the California situation, but doesn't your
> statement imply that the state government was running things
> just fine *before* they deregulated?
> Inquiring minds want to know, because our government (in the
> Netherlands) is reassessing deregulation in the light of the
> California energy crisis.
What Kalifornia did is *NOT* deregulation.
You cannot put price-controls on an industry and then call
it "deregulation"...price controls ARE regulations.
>
> Mart
> --
> Happily running Debian, posting with Pan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Brent Pathakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: It's just too easy
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 04:21:35 GMT
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in <96karo$1u9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >I installed a new NIC in a frien's RH 6.2 box today.
>
> I installed a new NIC in my own PC. On Windows, it asked for a driver
> disk. On Linux Mandrake, it didn't even notice it was there.
>
> I tried to configure it manually and it failed. I told it to use
> via-rhine, then it worked.
>
> >It's too easy. This has been my experience (more or less) with adding
> >hardware since RH5.2 (my forst distro). This is why I am skeptical about
> >the wintrolls with all these problems. I've simply never had them.
>
> You think your own experience is the norm?
>
> >All problems I have had have been with faulty hardware. All the other
> >problems have been with Win9X which is quite frankly awful.
>
> My own experiences have been the complete opposite of yours. Who is
> telling the truth here? You or me?
>
> Would it surprise you if I said both of us? And would you understand why?
>
Just a thought here...
1. Even though hw support for Linux has vaslly improved, you still need to
do a little homework to make sure your hw is supported. If it is, you"ll
probably have an easy time of it...
2. While linux and win2k and any other 0S can be a pain in the butt to
install / configure, the complaints I usually see about linux in these
newsgroups are overblown.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who is the most heavily killfiled person on cola?
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:22:09 -0500
Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>
> Ray Chason wrote:
> > Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >No way Ed. The guy doing the filtering has done an excellent job in
> > >keeping spam and excesice X-posting off the server. I doubt though that
> > >he has an eye on Aaron. My guess is that Aarons ISP is on some anti-spam
> > >list that my admin uses but i cant check since i cant see Aarons headers
> > >and im to lazy to do a search on deja.com.
> >
> > It might be taking that big wanking sig to be spam (it *is* a form of
> > spam, after all).
> >
>
> I download all interesting groups into leafnode.
> A R Kulkis uses way too much space on my disks in proportion
> to his postings. He can`t quote (nearly everytime the complete
> preceding post, and than he answers most of the time with 1 or 2
> sentences. After that this fucking SIG) I once killfiled him in the
> newsreader, but for this group I disabled all killfile filtering recently.
> But him I will probably just killfile while downloading, already working
> on that. That SIG is nothing to be proud of, even 11 years old mentally
> retarded would be ashamed of shit like that. Even posts from Chad Myers,
> which consist of that brown smelly stuff only are not as obnoxious.
>
Like it or not, my .sig *does* accomplish it's intended purpose:
keeping the lamer flamers away.
Or would you prefer to see pointless bandwidth explode as the
flamers comve after me again?
> Peter
>
> --
> Are you sure you REALLY want to read this with Netscape?
> [ ] YES Go to the Microsoft site and download Internet Explorer
> [ ] NO Go to the Microsoft site and download Internet Explorer
> [ ] LOCK UP Crash Windows and soft reboot
> [ ] BSOD Crash Windows and hard reboot
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:23:36 -0500
Nigel wrote:
>
> > MS-DOS..no.
> >
> > Digital Research's DR-DOS..yes.
> >
>
> Wasn't DR's multitasking version of dos called
> concurrent dos and sold separately to the single
> tasking standard DR-DOS?
DR-DOS's introduction of true multi-tasking was concurrant
with Mafia$oft's sales of MS-DOS 3.0
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 04:25:41 GMT
Said Pete Goodwin in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:25:11
>T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>Go find a group of Linux advocates and tell them they are required, on
>>my authority, to share my beliefs. You'll get laughed at, of course,
>>but not just for the usual reasons you're laughed at by Linux advocates.
>
>Twisty as usual.
>
>I'm referring to an apparent set of beliefs I see espoused in this group -
>not your specific beliefs.
I'm pointing out that this set of beliefs is only apparent to you,
because you are the one making them up.
>>>Hence I call it dogma.
>>
>>More likely its because you're a liar or a moron.
>
>When have I lied? C'mon where's the proof?
>
>As for moron - oh well, standard techniques. Can't hold an argument so hurl
>insults.
>
>PAH!
Blah, blah, blah. Just because you can squirm around doesn't mean you
aren't pinned to the carpet, my friend. Perhaps you'll think a second
before pulling out the tired "dogma" insinuation, next time. Perhaps
not.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
------------------------------
From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: It's just too easy
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:29:44 -0500
Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> mlw wrote:
> >
> > Donn Miller wrote:
> > >
> > > mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The PCI-PC platform is so bad, it is an addition to a modification to a
> > > > redesign of an extension of a kludge. There are so many issues with BIOS
> > > > vendors, PCI bus controllers, etc. I am amazed it works at all.
> > >
> > > One thing I didn't know is that even machines that have all PCI slots still
> > > have an ISA bus that is internal, unless you've got a PC 100 machine. Also,
> > > I think that PCI video cards use the ISA bus for standard VGA mode, although
> > > they are plugged into a PCI slot. Of course, it uses PCI for the SVGA modes,
> > > but VGA mode uses the ISA bus AFAIK. So, this means that PCI video cards are
> > > really an ISA/PCI hybrid.
> >
> > That's sort of wrong, close though.
> >
> > The ISA slots on an advanced PCI system is not a *real* ISA bus. The original
> > ISA bus was directly connected to the CPU BUS. As computers grew, they slowed
> > down the system bus when I/O accessed something on this bus. At some point,
> > they started emulating this bus for legacy peripherals, and completely
> > decoupled it from the real CPU bus.
>
> That really doesn't matter. As long as the pin-outs and timing-sequences
> on the bus are maintained, then it's a "real" ISA BUS.
That is sort of the funny thing. The ISA bus never really existed. The AT bus
did exist and was based on a 6 MHZ 80286, and timing diagrams were based on
that behavior. The ISA bus was an attempt to standardize the 16 bit bus. It was
a fuzzy spec because difference mainboard behaved differently.
>
> What determines whether a bus is conformant or not is pinouts, voltages,
> and timing diagrams. Whether or not it is directly connecto the the CPU
> or not is of zero relevance.
This isn't true either. Programs and drivers that assumed 1:1 relationship to
CPU instructions and clock cycles on the ISA bus often broke. A few DMA cards
broke on the emulated ISA bus because DMA cycles varied in regularity.
--
http://www.mohawksoft.com
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls.
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:26:25 -0500
Giuliano Colla wrote:
>
> David Brown wrote:
> >
> > Giuliano Colla wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >Edward Rosten wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > : EBCDIC maybe, not COBOL. Computer languages have tremendous
> > >> > : longevity if they meet the needs of even a small fraction of the
> > >> > : populace.
> > >> >
> > >> > : LISP and BASIC are still with us after years of being derided by
> > >> > : Computer Scientists.
> > >> >
> > >> > BASIC might fit that description, but LISP was not derided by Computer
> > >> > Scientists. They loved it. People who wanted to get practical work
> > >> > done hated it because it is a lot of work to think of every algorithm
> > as
> > >> > a case of recursion, although it is in theory possible.
> > >>
> > >> Definitely possible. I don't know about List (I know a bit of Haskell,
> > >> another functional language) but it can be extremely elegant to write
> > >> purely recursive algorithms. After all, a loop is just one specific case
> > >> where you can think the whole thing through (according to Knuth).
> > >>
> > >> -Ed
> > >>
> > >
> > >Don't mention Knuth when Chad is listening. It's 70's technology!
> >
> > Last I heard, Knuth was working on a new language for use in more "Art of
> > Computer Programming" books, so he is producing some more modern stuff
>
> I'm glad to hear that. There's always a lot to learn from Knuth,
> whichever language he selects to use.
>
> > (assuming of course that he does not get sidetracked again and become a
> > world expert in some other field). But the whole basis of computer science
> > was put together in the 60's and early 70's - most of what has come since is
> > just icing on the cake.
>
> Except at Redmond, where they've not yet learned how to bake the cake,
> in first place. They try to hide it with icing, but it shows at first
> bite (or first byte!).
Yes, they are VERY good at decorating with Frosting...but Billy's
shitheads in Redmond STILL haven't figured out that you crack the
eggs, and mix them with the flour and sugar and milk ****BEFORE***
you bake the goddamned thing.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls.
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:26:35 -0500
Giuliano Colla wrote:
>
> David Brown wrote:
> >
> > Giuliano Colla wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >Edward Rosten wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > : EBCDIC maybe, not COBOL. Computer languages have tremendous
> > >> > : longevity if they meet the needs of even a small fraction of the
> > >> > : populace.
> > >> >
> > >> > : LISP and BASIC are still with us after years of being derided by
> > >> > : Computer Scientists.
> > >> >
> > >> > BASIC might fit that description, but LISP was not derided by Computer
> > >> > Scientists. They loved it. People who wanted to get practical work
> > >> > done hated it because it is a lot of work to think of every algorithm
> > as
> > >> > a case of recursion, although it is in theory possible.
> > >>
> > >> Definitely possible. I don't know about List (I know a bit of Haskell,
> > >> another functional language) but it can be extremely elegant to write
> > >> purely recursive algorithms. After all, a loop is just one specific case
> > >> where you can think the whole thing through (according to Knuth).
> > >>
> > >> -Ed
> > >>
> > >
> > >Don't mention Knuth when Chad is listening. It's 70's technology!
> >
> > Last I heard, Knuth was working on a new language for use in more "Art of
> > Computer Programming" books, so he is producing some more modern stuff
>
> I'm glad to hear that. There's always a lot to learn from Knuth,
> whichever language he selects to use.
>
> > (assuming of course that he does not get sidetracked again and become a
> > world expert in some other field). But the whole basis of computer science
> > was put together in the 60's and early 70's - most of what has come since is
> > just icing on the cake.
>
> Except at Redmond, where they've not yet learned how to bake the cake,
> in first place. They try to hide it with icing, but it shows at first
> bite (or first byte!).
Yes, they are VERY good at decorating with Frosting...but Billy's
shitheads in Redmond STILL haven't figured out that you crack the
eggs, and mix them with the flour and sugar and milk ****BEFORE***
you bake the goddamned thing.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:27:54 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
>
> Mart van de Wege writes:
> > Don't know much about the California situation, but doesn't your
> > statement imply that the state government was running things just fine
> > *before* they deregulated?
>
> The "deregulation" was very selective. A cynical person might suspect that
> things are going according to plan.
That's my Cousin's theory...
Create a situation which will not seriously effect the affluent (who
can afford to purchase generators, etc)...but provide a VERY strong
impetus to the moochers....to go away.
> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 04:28:18 GMT
"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> >Unfortunately, I haven't found a good Windoze X-server that is shareware
> >and that can handle tunneling X over ssh.
>
> I've yet to find one that is freeware, myself; M/iX (?) went shareware
> some time ago. I'm tempted to build XFree86, but I don't have a Windows
> system to dedicate to it. (If I can get Borland's C++ 4.51 compiler
> working on Wine -- and it's almost there, it's just that the linker
> gives me an "internal error 14" -- I might be able to do something.)
>
Have you looked at weirdx (pure java, can run in a browser)
http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/
or the cgwin port
http://www.cygwin.com/xfree/
I haven't needed a windows X badly enough to follow up with
these, but they sound interesting.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 23:29:11 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter Köhlmann"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Edward Rosten wrote:
> >> My SO just bought them, so I just listened to them. You can buy them
> >> from the BBC.
> >>
> >> www.bbc.co.uk
> >>
> >> Here's the link straight to it:
> >>
> >>
> >
>http://www.bbcshop.com/bbc_shop/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=101&shop=bbc&mscssid=13483ATGU7S92NQ30002U40F6NR1EKE9
> >>
> >>
> >> I've got a feelung that the URL above will be wrapped by pan.
> >>
> >> -Ed
> >>
> >
> > Nope, came across intact.
>
> Hmm.
>
> I havn't figured out yeu exactly what it mungs and what it doesn't
>
Check your line-length setting.
That's usually the key.
> -Ed
>
> --
> Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
> weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
> - The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
> |eng.ox.ac.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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