Linux-Advocacy Digest #416, Volume #32 Thu, 22 Feb 01 20:13:02 EST
Contents:
Why Linux Is Giving Microsoft a Migraine (Bob Tennent)
Re: Printing! ("Edward Rosten")
Re: State of linux distros ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (ZnU)
Re: State of linux distros ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: State of linux distros ("Edward Rosten")
Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: State of linux distros ("Edward Rosten")
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Does Code Decay ("Joseph T. Adams")
Re: Red Hat Fisher Beta ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited ("Joseph T. Adams")
Re: Microsoft dying, was Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux ("Edward
Rosten")
Re: IBM Withdraws CPRM Hard Disk Proposal ("Joseph T. Adams")
Re: Linux web pads? ("Karel Jansens")
Re: Linux web pads? ("Karel Jansens")
Re: Linux web pads? ("Karel Jansens")
Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American (CR Lyttle)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Why Linux Is Giving Microsoft a Migraine
Date: 23 Feb 2001 00:01:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
According to a recent study by computer consultancy
Enterprise Management Associates, only 26% of large corporate
info-tech departments have made the switch to Windows 2000. An
additional 55% planned to do so in the next six months. But if it's
taking existing NT users that long to adopt the new operating system,
then something must be stalling them.
That would be Linux. Starting out as a pet project of a Finnish
graduate student, Linux has developed into one of the world's most
popular operating systems. By the end of 2000, it was powering 30% of
the Web server market, about equal to Microsoft's slice of that pie,
according to consultancy NetCraft, which tracks server operating
systems.
In addition, Linux has become increasingly popular as an operating
system for mobile networked devices like cell phones, Web tablets, and
handheld computers, another area that Microsoft has been
unsuccessfully (so far) trying to enter. Thanks to its open-source
nature, which allows programmers to see and change the actual source
code of the program, Linux has become very popular among computer
professionals and programmers.
That's where Microsoft would like to see Linux
stay. But it's starting to catch on in the enterprise arena. Large
corporations are warming to Linux as a method of overseeing networks
that do things other than just serving up Web pages. "The open-source
development model is a better mousetrap to address enterprises' IT
needs," says Duetsche Banc Alex. Brown analyst Phil Rueppel. "And
Linux is the proof-point for the open source model."
http://www.businessweek.com/print/bwdaily/dnflash/feb2001/nf20010222_369.htm
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printing!
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:12:07 +0000
In article <3a95478b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "sandrews"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know how to print RFC`s (the text ones) so they are properly
> formatted on the printed page? I had some notes somewhaer but I can't
> find them and I'm too lazy to look it up ;).
man pr
-Ed
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:13:18 +0000
In article <Zzal6.610$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Reefer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yep. I'll just trash my HDDs and install Windows 2000 on my P133. Oh,
>> yeah and shell out for it as well :-)
>
>
> Win2kpro works perfectly with a P133, just make sure u have 'nuff
> memory
Win2K will run, but nothing much will run n it at a reasonable speed
> ...lets say 128 MB RAM .
I have 72M. Shel out £££ more as well. Oh well, I'd best stick with
linux.
-Ed
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From: ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:14:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:04:01 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> > >I tend to hang out with people who believe in personal freedom.
> >
> > Yeah, personal freedom for the aristocracy, right ?
>
> I don't know of any aristocracy, other than Kennedy, the Rockefellers,
> and similar people. They won't let me into their country club, so
> no, I don't hang out with such types.
>
>
> >
> > Since you believe in "personal freedom", do you support anti-drug
> > laws ?
>
> Not the current ones.
>
>
> Better to just pass a law that says that the punishment for any
> crime is TRIPLED, and raised a level (say from Class C Misdemeanor
> to Class B Misdemeanor, or from Class A misdemeanor to Class D
> Felony) for any offence committed under the influence of drugs
> or alcohol.
>
> This eliminates the contraband problem, and all of the associated
> side effects, while STILL providing a negative-reinforcement to
> out-of-control drug use.
>
> If someone wants to lock himself in a room and do LSD, no
> problem. If he wants to do it while driving a vehicle, then
> he gets hit REALLY hard for anything stupid he does.
That might work with most drugs, but LSD is a bad example. What do you
do when the guy who's been locking himself in room doing LSD has a
flashback while driving a vehicle?
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:07:55 +0100
Reefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Masha Ku'Inanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:973qo7$7dg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> A superior OS can make do with whatever hardware platform it is installed
>> on, and can utilize every ounce of power from that hardware, and not just
>> run with mediocre performance on greater hardware requirements.
> >
>> Especially when a Linux/UNIX box at 133mhz can out-perform a P-II Win2k
>> server in terms of stability, uptime, and performance.
>>
> ah, but C'MON.....like i said before; this is the year 2001, and anyone
> running a 'puter with less than a PII 300 (or compatible) and 128 MB RAM in
My entire department's mail (about 100 people) is being happily handled
by a P100 - it was running kernel 2.0.36 until a few days ago. It also
has about 40 user accounts. I alone get about 4000 mails a day, so I'm
going to bet it gets at least 10 times that.
> it, need some serious reality check, u cant wip a dead horse like that for
> ever ...but then again; Win2kpro works just fine with a P133, just make sure
My home server is also a P100. So is the departments www server. My
other homes server is a P166. My laptop is a P150.
You only need grunt to run staroffice and netscape ;-)
> to have 'nuff memory in it...
Peter
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:15:02 +0000
In article <jMdl6.620$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Reefer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Oh in that case, I'll set Win2k up as a mail server on a 486...oh hold
>> on, that won't work will it? Maybe Linux lives on after all...
>> --
>
> A superior OS like Win2k wants to have SOMETHING to work with, not some
> leftover hw from your childhood...
Win2K will not run reasonable on my computer. Linux runs fine and I can
do *everything* I need on my computer. So how would Win2K be superior?
Really, why should I upgrade my computer if it works fine?
-Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls.
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:58:47 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <973ug6$gks$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: In article <96s7ui$a4u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steve Mading"
>: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>:> What is the simplest algorithm for getting the numerical value of a
>:> digit character in ASCII:
>:> x = ord(ch) - ord('0')
>:> Since the ord() is really a do-nothing operation that exists purely to
>:> tell the compiler "yes, I really meant to do this, It's not a mistake.",
>:> the above is really nothing more than a numerical subtraction operation.
>:> (and even looks that way in C: ch - '0' )
>:>
>
>: Actually, this works for EBCDIC also since the digits are contiguous -
>: 0xf0 - 0xf9. Still, I wouldn't recommend this method since it does make
>: assumptions on the representation of characters.
>
> You would prefer an if/else ladder checking each and every character
> one at a time? Ick.
>
Why use if/else? A table lookup is the obvious way to do it. I once took
over some sw that had to translate from ita2 to ita5. The programmer had
used if/elsif/... to do it! I presume he was paid by lines of code. :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls.
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:55:30 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <973ua1$gks$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Bob Hauck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: On 20 Feb 2001 23:49:33 GMT, Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>: wrote:
>
>:> I want to be able to SEE the layout of the code.
>
>: You want Python. <http://www.python.org/>
>
> No, I don't want python, because I don't like enforced indenting
> rules. The best way to express things is not always with
> rigid indenting rules.
I felt the same way when I first looked at python. However I kept hearing
what an excellent scripting language it is so I gave it a second chance. I
now think it is the most elegant scripting language I have ever used. It
even makes OOP enjoyable. I now use it as much as perl and expect that
overtime I will drop perl completely. The python emacs mode does all the
indentation for you so it is not a hassle.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:16:45 +0000
In article <nOal6.611$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Reefer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yep. I'll just trash my HDDs and install Windows 2000 on my P133. Oh,
>> yeah and shell out for it as well :-)
>
> OR u could try to uppgrade your hardware a little bit perhaps ...this IS
> the year 2001 u know, 'puters are fairly cheap ;-)
I have upgraded my computer. I have spent a lot of money on it recently.
I simply haven't upgraded the CPU or RAM because it works fine. Why
should I spend yet MORE money to upgrade bits that do easily as much as I
need them to?
-Ed
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:48:59 +0200
"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Failing that, we could try to run NT on SPARCs. (Um...there's just
> a slight problem with that... :-) )
Yes, you would have to convice MS to give you the SPARC port.
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:00:48 +0200
"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I certainly hope Windows XP has a new file system, one which doesn't
> have such weird-assed constructs as WINDOW~1.DOC or "ALLCAPS" mutating
> to "Allcaps" in the Explorer.
>
> (As I understand it, both DOS and NTFS suffer from the "tilde malady";
> the new file system would have to be completely Unicode-compliant
> naming-wise to avoid it. I'm not sure if Unix can handle Unicode or
> not, mostly because Unicode has a lot of NUL characters (\0), which
> C doesn't handle all that well.)
There is a registry key that let you disable short file names (the ones
causing WINDOW~1.DOC that you mentioned.
AFAIK, it has always been there.
NT maintain this only for backward compatability.
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:15:37 +0200
"Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > How much bandwidth is it taking up?
> >
> > You tell me.
>
> I guess you can't recognize a rhetoric question.
According to Deja's archives, 35MB +.
And they don't count very far back, nowaday.
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:20:37 +0200
"Donovan Rebbechi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On 21 Feb 2001 09:48:06 GMT, Nick Condon wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> >>ZnU wrote:
> >>> It's annoying to scroll through, and my newsreader doesn't recognize
it
> >>> as a .sig due to excessive length, so I have to snip it out manually
in
> >>> replies.
> >>
> >>Here's a clue...when you see this:
> >>
> >>"Aaron R. Kulkis
> >> Unix Systems Engineer"
> >>
> >>stop reading.
> >
> >LOL! Good advice.
>
> Better advice: stop reading when you see
>
> From: Aaron Kulkis
I'll second that.
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Code Decay
Date: 23 Feb 2001 00:27:59 GMT
Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: When I was doing anti-terrorist work for the Atlanta Olympics, we
: had a saying:
: "What does a bomb look like?"
: "ANYTHING the terrorist wants it to look like"
It's well known among munitions experts that Tim McVeigh's truck bomb,
while it did considerable damage to the Murrah building and many
others for blocks around, did NOT cause the collapse of the building
itself. That had to have been done by shearing a number of inner
support columns, which, because of the inverse-cube law, the truck
bomb couldn't have done by itself.
Yet most of the important support columns were in the Federal Credit
Union office on the first floor. Any bombs or charges would have had
to have been in plain sight of people working there.
My belief is that the necessary charges were probably concealed inside
a very ordinary-looking device like a fire extinguisher. All that
McVeigh's friends would have needed to do is to replace the real FEs
with modified ones. This could have been done at any time, with or
without anyone else present, as no one ever would have noticed
anything amiss.
And exactly the same thing could be done in any public place anywhere
in the world.
Joe
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat Fisher Beta
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:29:08 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "The Ghost
In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Edward Rosten
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:41:04 +0000
> <96te46$2te$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>> bad.... I've spent more time getting a modem to work under Win NT.
>>>
>>> Then you don't understand what you are doing. You should be even
>>> touching a computer in an administrative capacity.
>>
>>Then you've never administered more than a few computers ever. Hardware
>>can be a problem under any OS. Win NT is an exception.
>
> Um...not to be a wet blanket or anything, but ... how is NT's dealing
> with bad hardware (the BSOD) better than a kernel panic under Unix or
> bombs under MacOS or ... ??
mega thinko-typo-brainfart.
s/an/no/
> Or are you saying NT crashes regardless of hardware? :-)
That too :-)
-Ed
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,demon.local
Subject: Re: Hilter Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: 23 Feb 2001 00:31:11 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Nick Condon wrote:
:> >
:> > Hmm. Does Godwin apply here?
:>
:>
:> ***FUCK*** Godwin
: You've said this before. What's wrong with Godwin? What did he ever do
: to you? Are you under the mistaken apprehension that Godwin's Law is a
: binding rule of netiquette?
It isn't, but many uninformed people think that it is, which has the
perverse effect of making it very difficult to discuss and therefore
learn how to prevent the recurrence of crimes similar to Hitler's.
Joe
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft dying, was Re: Microsoft seeks government help to stop Linux
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:31:08 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "The Ghost
In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Edward Rosten
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:23:13 +0000
> <973ato$82k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>In article <uU8l6.56399$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chad Myers"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>> Windows XP is a whole OS which provides hundreds of new features.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>you mis spelled `no'.
>
> No no, he's correct. Windows XP provides thousands of new features. The
> catch is: they're undocumented. :-)
And useless. Its only a matter of time until...
the position of the drop shadow on the mouse depends on the time of day.
-Ed
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM Withdraws CPRM Hard Disk Proposal
Date: 23 Feb 2001 00:32:38 GMT
Adam Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Thank goodness:
: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/17107.html
I hope this is because IBM "gets it," and not solely because of the
outcry that their proposal caused.
Joe
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From: "Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux web pads?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:35:51 -0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Matthias Warkus"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was the Wed, 21 Feb 2001 22:20:13 -0100...
> ...and Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> An ASCII-piano can easily be plugged in when needed (just add a PS/2
>> >> port for QWERTY's sake <G>); a mouse is IMHO an abysmal replacement
>> >> for a decent touch-screen
>> >
>> > Only when everything on your screen is at least half the size of the
>> > average fingertip. Have you ever tried to cut and paste a single word
>> > (or, God forbid, a single character) from and into normal-sized text
>> > with a touchscreen?
>> >
>> > When it comes to precision, a touchscreen is the most abysmal mouse
>> > replacement there is. (Whereby some people might argue that a mouse
>> > is just an abysmal trackball replacement.)
>> >
>> Use the stylus. Do you use fingerpaint to write a letter?
>
> Can *you* use a stylus anywhere on the screen without cramps and without
> your supporting hand pushing on the screen confusing it?
>
Got you there. I tried that already. Some ten years ago there was a
company that presented a GEOS-based notepad on a local computer show and I
got to try it for a full 2 minutes (Wow!). It's actually rather easy to
do, as the notepad had a somewhat raised edge all around it, which was
ideal for resting your wrist on. The thing felt very natural in use (of
course, only 2 minutes... ).
But I don't think a stylus is a good replacement for bulk text input,
nomatter how good the handwriting recognition software is. Any reasonably
skilled typist can type way faster than (s)he can write (I know I can),
hence my proposition to include a PS/2 port or a foldaway keyboard.
BTW, rereading my previous post, I cannot escape the feeling that I came
over somewhat more aggresive than I meant. If you felt the same way,
please know that this was not intentional; you are not on my bashing list.
...yet <G>
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
==============================
"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
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From: "Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux web pads?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:35:55 -0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Donovan Rebbechi"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:31:23 -0100, Karel Jansens wrote:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "The
>>Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>My idea was more that the pad would be an X-terminal, with a wireless
>>network link, so the server (the desktop) would have to run some kind of
>>X-server software. Linux obviously is the first O/S that came to my
>>mind, but there is no reason why the desktop could not run e.g. Solaris,
>>or OS/2 with XFree/86. Does QNX have an X-server?
>
> You've got this sort of back to front. The X-terminal runs the X-server,
> and the X clients run on the machine you are calling the "server". Yes,
> it is confusing.
>
> Basically, the X servers job is to "serve" the screen of the X-term to
> clients. X Windows programs running on a beefier machine connect to this
> X server, hence those programs are known as "X-clients".
>
Yes, I know; I keep confusing the server and the terminal in X-Windows. I
used the term "X-terminal" however to refer to a physical terminal, the X
equivalent of a "character terminal".
But thanks for trying to educate me (it probably won't work; I'm thick, I
am).
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
==============================
"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
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From: "Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux web pads?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:36:27 -0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:31:23 -0100, Karel Jansens
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "The
>>Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [deletia]
>>>
>>
>>My idea was more that the pad would be an X-terminal, with a wireless
>>network link, so the server (the desktop) would have to run some kind of
>>X-server software. Linux obviously is the first O/S that came to my
>>mind,
>
> The proper terminology for such a thing is Xclient. The "server"
> machine in this arrangement would not need to even have a video card.
>
> [deletia]
>
Correction gracefully accepted.
But I really was under the impression that the term "X-terminal" also
referred to a hardware terminal tuned to run X aplications from a server
(sort of an evolved "dumb terminal").
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
==============================
"Go go gadget linux." Zoomm!
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From: CR Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:41:08 GMT
Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> CR Lyttle wrote:
> >
> > Nick Condon wrote:
> > >
> > > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > > > At the cost of a few human lives. (if you don't see the connection,
> > > > look harder. If the Chinese government uses Linux for their primary
> > > > OS, and changes are contributed to support the Chinese government,
> > > > then clearly Linux is actively being used to assist human rights
> > > > violations)
> > > >
> > > > If that doesn't matter to you, no big deal. If it does, you'd be a
> > > > hypocrite to use Linux.
> > >
> > > Will you be boycotting the written word then, since the Chinese invented
> > > the printing press? How about gunpowder?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Nick
> > I don't think the Chineese invented the printing press. As I recall,
> > they invented block printing. The Western contribution was movable type
> > coupled with an old wine press to improve on the block printing method.
>
> Gutenberg's press was simply taking the traditional block printing
> method and fitting it into the wine press.
>
> Moveable type was the FAR more important of the two inventions.
> It came years later.
>
Right. Which is why I mentioned both without name. AS is the usual case
there are a lot of intertwined inventions leading up to the end product.
Given much thought to the "ink" problem? Or the availability of large
quantities of paper suitable for printing? China invented paper, but the
West invented a method for turning large quantities of dirty underwear
into good paper.
> > --
> > Russ
> > <http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
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> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
>
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
--
Russ
<http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
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