Linux-Advocacy Digest #516, Volume #32 Tue, 27 Feb 01 05:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Judge Harry Edwards comments.... (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Mircosoft Tax ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Mircosoft Tax (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Mircosoft Tax ("Edward Rosten")
Re: [OT] .sig (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: State of linux distros ("Mart van de Wege")
Re: Mircosoft Tax ("Edward Rosten")
Re: M$ doing it again! (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Kulkis haters club seeking new members (moooo)
Re: [OT] .sig (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Pete Goodwin)
Re: [OT] .sig (Rich Hanson)
Re: [OT] .sig (Mathew Hendry)
Re: [OT] .sig ("Z")
Re: M$ doing it again! ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Something Seemingly Simple. ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Something Seemingly Simple. ("Edward Rosten")
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Judge Harry Edwards comments....
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:20:59 -0500
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> Charlie Ebert wrote:
> >
> > The we run into people like Judge Harry Edwards with
> > their contemptable logic and appearent lack of historical
> > knowledge, which lead me to conclude that we will end
> > up going around with Microsoft again in the future.
>
> The Judge probably enjoys his Microsoft Flight Simulator
> (yet another Microsoft purchase) too much.
That, or was given handed an account number and the name of
some recently-founded bank of murkey ownership in the
Cayman Islands...
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:22:26 +0000
>> Yes, of course. In order to provide a significant performance
>> improvement. Otherwise why to make a new release?
>
> The 2.4 kernel only provides significant improvement on SMP systems, not
> on typical ones. Even then, this was more of fixing a deficiency rather
> than improving.
Oh, man! You hold a really coloured outlook on life, don't you. How the
hell does fixing a deficiency not yield an improvement. Oh, because it's
Linux. That's why.
-Ed
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:24:20 -0500
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >
> > I still don't follow this. When the OS runs on a faster computer, it's
> > performance goes up as well. You have stated only prices, and nothing
> > relating to performance.
>
> You still don't get it. Install Win 3.1 on your machine. And tell
^^^^^^^
You misspelled "Lose 3.1"
> me it is no faster.
>
> Chris
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:25:36 +0000
In article <gdGm6.477$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Erik Funkenbusch"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>> >
>> > I still don't follow this. When the OS runs on a faster computer,
>> > it's performance goes up as well. You have stated only prices, and
>> > nothing relating to performance.
>>
>> You still don't get it. Install Win 3.1 on your machine. And tell me
>> it is no faster.
>
> Actually, I have. It's slower than Windows 9x on the same machine (i've
> run DOS benchmarks and 16 bit windows benchmarks).
There are 2 reasons I don't believe you.
1 I installed Win311 and the whole thing went like a bat out of hell
2 Win311 is esentially win95 with a lot less baggage and no 32 bit
support built in (if Win311 wasn't so much like 95, how come you can very
easily ass 32bit support by using the Win32S DLLs from MS?).
-Ed
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:29:09 -0500
Ray Chason wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany) wrote:
>
> >Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> What part of United States Army do you not understand?
> >
> >Its significance to this discussion.
> >
> >> The US Army defends the US Constitution, which secures my right,
> >> by virtue of being in the US, to say anything I damn well please
> >> on USENET or any other place.
>
> *sigh* Seems Kulkis is yet another of the dolts who think Free Speech
> (tm) means Free Speech For Me But Not For Thee.
Please show me where I have been infringing on other
people's right to free speech.
Be precise.
>
> >Usenet, and "any other place", are not in the US, therefore US law
> >does not apply here. The community's standards are the rules that
> >count. The community standard is a signature of no more than 4 lines
> >(though one or two more are tolerated), so you really just make an
> >ass of yourself. And you're not doing the US Army any favor by
> >dragging it into this, either.
>
> No one is trying to use the law to prevent Kulkis from making an ass of
> himself in front of the whole world. But I, too, am a Free American
> Citizen(tm), and have the $DEITY-given right to deposit Kulkis in my
> killfile where all spammers, trolls, Big Ugly-Ass Sig posters, and
> other eedjits belong.
And, by the same law, I am allowed to attach my opinions about
various assholes to the bottom of any USENET post which I so choose.
>
> --
> --------------===============<[ Ray Chason ]>===============--------------
> PGP public key at http://www.smart.net/~rchason/pubkey.asc
> Delenda est Windoze
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:30:06 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ray Chason"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Ray Chason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> You can get a boxed Debian distribution; IIRC VA Linux packages it as
>>> "Debian GNU/Linux".
>>
>>Yes, yes, but nobody uses it. Okay, somebody probably does, but the
>>whole *point* of Debian is IMHO the network updates and upgrades. (I
>>know several Debian users, and, in contrast to Red Hat or S.u.S.E users
>>I know, they hardly ever use CD images for installation - and if they
>>do, it's only to get a base system quickly up and running)
>
> OK, but I quite frankly shudder at the thought of sucking several
> hundred megs of stuff through a dialup modem. Not everybody has DSL.
>
> Just how big is Debian, anyway?
>
>
Depends on what you install. The CD distribution of the stable tree is 3
CDs. My installation with a full Gnome desktop, all the necessary dev
libraries and tools runs to about 1.5-2 Gig uncompressed. A server would
be significantly smaller of course, but I still think that you'd be
spending a minimum of 2 hours if you download over dialup.
Of course if you want to run a server, then cutting edge would not be
required, so you'd best order the stable CD set through a distributor,
and only download security patches (which are conveniently set up in the
default sources.list, all you have to do is uncomment 1 line).
HTH
Mart
--
The bug stops here.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:31:30 +0000
> Has the Linux community really gone downhill or am I becoming intolerant
> ?
Linux community in general? No idea, but this is COLA and there have
always been bits of it at this level. That's part of what makes it fun
<g>.
-Ed
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: M$ doing it again!
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:33:27 -0500
Klaus-Georg Adams wrote:
>
> "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:97d9c2$5u5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> [...]
>
> > > Since you are such an expert on the matters, why don't you go and name a
> > > few `unpublished' calls, then.
> >
> > Sure.
> >
> > use_init_fs_context()
> > exec_usermodehelper()
> > move_last_runqueue()
> >
> > and hundreds more.
>
> Erik, you seem to be confusing published and exported calls.
>
> From the 2.4.1 sources:
> ./kernel/kmod.c:32:static inline void
> ./kernel/kmod.c:33:use_init_fs_context(void)
>
> This function is not callable outside the translation unit in which it
> is defined. Thus it is clearly not even callable from the kernel
> itself. It's not an 'unpublished' call, it is an unexported call and
> thus can't be called from outside kmod.c at all.
>
> The same goes for
> ./kernel/sched.c:309:static inline void move_last_runqueue(struct task_struct * p)
>
> The next one is another story.
> ./kernel/kmod.c:86:int exec_usermodehelper(char *program_path, char *argv[], char
>*envp[])
> ./kernel/kmod.c:367:EXPORT_SYMBOL(exec_usermodehelper);
>
> Note the EXPORT_SYMBOL line? This means the function is exported to
> Modules and callable even in presence of Symbolmangling.
>
> And lo:
> ./include/linux/kmod.h:31:extern int exec_usermodehelper(char *program_path, char
>*argv[], char *envp[]);
> the calling conventions are published.
>
> And further on:
> ./drivers/net/hamradio/baycom_epp.c:397: i =
>exec_usermodehelper(eppconfig_path, argv, envp);
>
> We even have a caller from inside a module.
> It looks like a published call, it quaks like one and it walks like one.
>
> Note: in 2.2.16 exec_usermodehelper was not exported (via EXPORT_SYMBOL),
> not documented in kmod.h, and not callable from a module, but still
> accessible as an external symbol to the rest of the kernel proper. But it
> might just as well have been static, because it was not used outside
> of kmod.c.
>
> Thus in 2.2.16 you may have a point that it was not published, but
> there was no need for it. It looks like an oversight which was
> corrected later on.
>
> Documentation for published calls is in the relevant headers. If this
> ain't enough, you know where to look for the rest.
Erik's problem is that he spends WAY too much looking
for the information by inserting his head into his rectum
>
> --
> kga
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: moooo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kulkis haters club seeking new members
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:34:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, johnnyreb.4
@southland.smart.net.SPAMMEN.VERBOTEN says...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine) wrote:
>
> >In comp.os.linux.advocacy, woof
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote
> >on Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:45:41 GMT
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>If anyone would like to join the kulkis haters club then add you name
> >>and email to the end of the list
> >>membership includes a free kulkis voodoo doll with extra sharp pin and
> >>some mail bombing software already preloaded with kulkis email address
> >>The first 10 members also get his home address too and a parcel bomb kit
> >>to send him
> >>
> >>Join up now!
> >>Add your name to the end of this list..
> >>
> >> Woof - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Meow - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >Can we find something *less* substantive to argue about?
>
> Yeah, as if Woof and Meow aren't the same person. Not that I care;
> both have joined Kulkis in my killfile.
>
>
>
Surely your killfile relies on my details staying the same, which they
never will
Looks like your outta luck
mooooo
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:35:08 -0500
Z wrote:
>
> Once upon a while "Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Regardless, I have taken an Oath, as a soldier in the US Army, to
> > defend the Constitution of the United States....and have served for
> > 12 years, including 1 year in the Southwest Asia combat zone....
> > duty which I volounteered for when a call was put out for volounteers
> > to do exactly that.
> >
> > That's not talking shit...that's backing up my words with action.
> >
>
> Actually that is the greatest shit talking shitter I've ever
> seen.
When was the last time you crawled under machine-gun fire, seeing
the tracers flying literally within arm's reach of your head?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: "meow" is yet another anonymous coward who does nothing
but write stupid nonsense about his intellectual superiors.
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:01:48 -0000
In article <97esd6$m16$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> :> Yup. It sounds like you got it wrong. The drivers GIMP is using are
> :> the same drivers everyone else could use if they felt like it, they
> :> just aren't dumb enough to want to.
>
> : I got it wrong?!? Surely you mean Linux Mandrake got it wrong? Or The
> : Gimp?
>
> No, I mean you got it wrong when you claimed there were different
> drivers being used by Gimp.
Other people here suggested The Gimp was using its own drivers. I saw no
reason to disbelieve them. So, strictly speaking, it should have worked
when I just took the defaults and tried printing? Why then was it
necessary for me to select "Epson" in The Gimp whilst other applications
did not need this?
--
---
Pete Goodwin
All your no fly zone are belong to us
My opinions are my own
------------------------------
From: Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:59:38 -0000
In article <97esae$m16$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Gimp doesn't HAVE its own printer drivers. What it has is its own user
> interface for talking to the SAME drivers that all the other apps use.
> The dialog box that lets you pick those settings you mention is not the
> driver. Those are settings that would be open to other programs to pick
> as well, but they never bothered to make a user interface to access them.
> This is also where the mistake in Gimp is coming from - it lies to the
> print queue (where the driver is {called a 'filter' in Unix parlance}.),
> telling it "Here's some raw data for you in the printer's own native
> codes", when in fact this is not the case and it's just giving out
> postscript just like every other app is.
If this is true, then The Gimp isn't playing "by the rules" and
introduced the problem of itself, not by anything I did or didn't do.
--
---
Pete Goodwin
All your no fly zone are belong to us
My opinions are my own
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:37:32 +0000
From: Rich Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Why don't you guys take this to alt.playground.arguments
--
Rich Hanson, Senior Software Engineer, BAE SYSTEMS Avionics, Rochester
Greetings from Emergency Zone 9
This message is *not* solicitation for contact via email or phone
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From: Mathew Hendry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:39:18 +0000
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:35:08 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Z wrote:
>>
>> Once upon a while "Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Regardless, I have taken an Oath, as a soldier in the US Army, to
>> > defend the Constitution of the United States....and have served for
>> > 12 years, including 1 year in the Southwest Asia combat zone....
>> > duty which I volounteered for when a call was put out for volounteers
>> > to do exactly that.
>> >
>> > That's not talking shit...that's backing up my words with action.
>>
>> Actually that is the greatest shit talking shitter I've ever
>> seen.
>
>When was the last time you crawled under machine-gun fire, seeing
>the tracers flying literally within arm's reach of your head?
I didn't know they were still using agent orange over there.
-- Mat.
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From: "Z" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:43:31 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Once upon a while "Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> When was the last time you crawled under machine-gun fire, seeing
> the tracers flying literally within arm's reach of your head?
>
Never.
Can you tell me how this matters in a technical newsgroup
discussing the C language? I can't.
--
Z ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
"LISP is worth learning for the profound enlightenment experience
you will have when you finally get it; that experience will make you
a better programmer for the rest of your days." -- Eric S. Raymond
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: M$ doing it again!
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:40:50 +0000
>> > Sure.
>> >
>> > use_init_fs_context() exec_usermodehelper() move_last_runqueue()
>> >
>> > and hundreds more.
>>
>>
>> 1
>>
>> use_init_fs_context() looks pretty well documented to me. A quick
>> search through the kernel sources found the function with comments
>> telling me what it does.
>
> Really? Then howcome my look at the function in the 2.4.0 source
> doesn't have any comments on the function?
Are you rtying to tell me that someone removed the comments between 2.2
and 2.4. I really don't believe you. Can anoyne confirm this?
>> 2
>> use_init_fs_context() is a function internal to kernel/kmod.c and is
>> defined and used only in there.
>
> Exactly my point.
No, it is not accessible from outside the kernel, so it is not a syscall.
>> So do you think that all internal functions are syscalls?
>
> NT provides many internal functions through DLL hooks. These aren't
> meant to be published, so yes.. they are syscalls in NT.
Has it occured to you that Linux isn't NT? This functin is not accessible
from outside the kernel, so it is not a syscall.
>> Do you think it is even possibe to access that function from a syscall
>> from a user process?
>
> Sure, just create a kernel mode driver to do so.
I see, so even though it is not accessibly and the user has to actually
wrtite a driver to use it, it is still a system call. Well, you're just
plain wrong.
-Ed
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Something Seemingly Simple.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:42:53 +0000
> Well, this subthread *is* about PI's presence in C headers. And, it
> turns out, an implementation that defines a PI macro violates the ISO C
> Standard. And since the ISO C Standard and related issues are the topic
> of comp.lang.c, this is rather significant.
Out of curiosity, which part of the ISO standard does it violate?
-Ed
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Something Seemingly Simple.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:45:11 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ray Chason"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>sin (x) = (exp(ix) - exp(-ix))/2i
>
> OK so far. (This can be derived based on exp(i*x) = cos(x) + i*sin(x).)
>
>
>>.: sin(ix) = (exp(-x) - exp(x))/2i = sinh(x)/2i
>
> Actually, since sinh(x) = (exp(+x) - exp(-x))/2:
Egads!
> sin(i*x) = (exp(-x) - exp(+x))/(2*i)
> = sinh(-x)/i
> = -i*sinh(-x)
> = i*sinh(x).
Absoloutely correct. I misread it.
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