Linux-Advocacy Digest #704, Volume #32 Thu, 8 Mar 01 14:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Roberto Alsina)
The merits of the BSD license. (Ian Pulsford)
Killfile Kookis already! (Was: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited)
(=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lars_Tr=E4ger?=)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Peter Hayes)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Craig Kelley)
Re: The merits of the BSD license. (Craig Kelley)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:10:46 -0300
Peter Hayes wrote:
> On 25 Feb 2001 13:18:30 -0700, Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > says...
>
> <...>
>
>> > > Certain layout applications use their own printer definitions so that
>> > > WYSIWYG actually works correctly.
>> >
>> > Maybe some do, but the ones I use don't.
>>
>> Some linux application do as well (gimp, WordPerfect 7), but the vast
>> majority don't.
>
> Not so.
>
> StarOffice 5.2 has its own drivers, or offers "system" drivers, I'm not
> sure which, but I suspect it has its own because a driver for my Epson
> Stylus Color doesn't appear on its list. In any event, the StarOffice test
> page just form feeds the paper, but prints nothing, so that's one Linux
> product that's useless for me... not surprising, I guess, if it doesn't
> have a driver for my printer and fails to route print data via CUPS.
StarOffice's "generic printer" driver simply generates postscript and feeds
it to the printing command. The printing command is configurable using
StarOffice's printer configuration tool, usually in Linux it should be
"lpr", as long as you have only one printer.
> LyX looks nice, but it also merely exercises the form feed motor. Looking
> at the documentation, it has a massively convoluted system for printing,
> which keeps the processor working flat out for several minutes, but all it
> produces is a blank page.
>
> Are these Linux Oopsies, Mandrake Oopsies, StarOffice and LyX Oopsies, or
> my Oopsies????????
Your Oopsies. You have not configured the system-wide driver to which most
other programs just feed postscript.
How that's done depends on distro, and I don't know enough about Mandrake.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: Ian Pulsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The merits of the BSD license.
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 04:15:04 +1000
There has been some discussion about the GPL lately, I'd like to bring
up a little discussion about the BSDL.
The BSD license is a permissive license that basically allows you to do
whatever you want with the software. This is the guts of it:
1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software
must display the following acknowledgement:
This product includes software developed by the University of
California, Berkeley and its contributors.
4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors
may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software
without specific prior written permission.
Rather simpler than the GPL! I've been scouring the net recently on
this subject and it appears that there are some misconceptions about the
BSD license.
1) This is probably the main one: "Some rich company can steal BSD code
and make money out of it".
- Were you expecting to make money out of your GPL code?
- Why would you release code under the BSD license if you wanted to
necessarily prevent others from making money from it?
- Why would you release code under the BSD license if you were intending
to make money from it yourself? (See next!)
- With the BSD license you can use make a binary and NOT release code,
if you so desire, and make money yourself! You can release the code at
any time you please.
- You cannot "steal" that which is freely given. BSD licensed code is
for all to use without restriction.
- Some poor startup company can use BSD source. What about the
thousands of struggling potential M$ competitors? Wouldn't it be nice
if they had access to some code they could use in the commercial field
to produce quality software in a form (ie. binary) they didn't need to
expose to their competitors? After the company has "made it" they can
contribute back if they wish.
- Companies that have used BSD code do contribute back. Apple is
back-porting its own contributions. BSDi is giving the FreeBSD kernel
SMP code as good or better than the Linux kernel's.
2) "The GPL keeps source free".
- Many other freer licenses do too. BSDL, Apache, X11, Python, Perl,
Mozilla, php all have open source licenses of their own, are free, and
aren't disappearing and becoming non-free.
- Code freely available is not going to suddenly disappear if someone
spawns a proprietary modification.
- The GPL is its own sort of freedom, it's full of restrictions.
- The GPL often extends and embraces freer software into itself. Not
content with keeping only derived work under its own license, the GPL
attempts to relicense work under "compatible" licenses under the GPL.
You thought it would be greedy to take BSD code and make a proprietary
derivative, I consider it rude that the GPL attempts to take other
open-source licensed code as its own too.
- The GPL prevents copying: M$ likely has enough monkeys to duplicate
(reverse engineer, build from scratch) most GPLed efforts within a
number of months, if it wanted to. (We also know that it would end up a
half-arsed, botched affair however.)
3) "BSD licensing causes forks".
- All four of them!
- How many Linux distros are there? Ah but they can all use the same
kernel. Ah but not all apps can use the same libraries. I've seen a
few postings not too long ago on rpm hell based on not having the right
dependencies.
- NetBSD and FreeBSD began as cognates not as one forking from the
other, NetBSD and OpenBSD forked over philosophical issues not over the
license. All have their own niche they concentrate on: FreeBSD - the
x86 platform, NetBSD - portability, OpenBSD - security.
- The BSDs can run most if not all of each other binaries (and Linux
too).
- If you include MacOS X as a fork you might want to consider the great
potential positive effect this could have for BSD; back porting of Apple
software to BSD, PR.
Anyone like to add more?
The main point is that the *BSD projects (and XFree, python, perl,
etc...) prove that the restrictive clauses in the GPL (blocking closed
source reuse of code and infecting other source with its license) are
completely unnecessary to keep opensource "free". In some cases they
can be considered harmful to opensource. But then again Stallman never
intended the GPL to make "free" software, just to remove business (good
and bad) from the software industry so's he can go back to his cosy LISP
lab.
IanP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lars_Tr=E4ger?=)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Killfile Kookis already! (Was: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:11:51 +0100
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> @> Either way, that really has nothing to do with wether or not you're
> @> wasting huge quantities of bandwidth. To address that: You're not--it's
> @> only text. Just one of the millions of binaries posted a day takes up
> @> more than all the .sigs from all your articles for the last few weeks.
> @> However, your .sig is extremely annoying.
> @
> @Check out the bandwidth consumed by ONE jpeg and get back to me.
There are several Binary groups that (together) have less bandwidth than
Kookis posts. They may be mostly empty, but still hold more information
than all of Kookis elamorations combined.
Lars T.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:26:42 -0500
Ian Davey wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> There was an interesting series on in the UK a while back when they discussed
> >> this. There has been some research done that developed a test that was aimed
> >> at a different area of intelligence. People that have a low IQ did better in
> >> it than those with a high IQ. If I remember rightly it was something to do
> >> with problem solving, where people with a lower IQ were found to be highly
> >> adept at solving certain kinds of problems.
> >
> >Could you be more...specific...
>
> I would but the pause in the middle of that sentence has shifted the
> processing of this question into the background...
>
> If I remember rightly I think it was something to do with solving real life
> emotional style problems. "What should someone do if...". People who were bad
> at IQ tests tended to come up with a practical solution quickly, whereas those
> with a high IQ take longer. Possibly because those with a high IQ are more
> analytical and have difficulty with more nebulous problems where there isn't a
> narrowly specified right or wrong answer.
Actually, as explained in the Scientific American article, this is
an element of "social graces" which is ENTIRELY independant of the
intelligence factor "g"
Also, this is an example of the "street smarts" phenomenon. Those
who find themselves in fucked-up situtations on a regular basis tend
to have stock-solutions to get themselves out of it....
Thus, it is not a test of intelligence, but of prior experience.
>
> I think the main problem is that intelligence is itself a nebulous thing, not
^^^^^^^
Spot the weasel word.
> best represented by a single number. IQ tests may be good at measuring
Those who have devoted DECADES of their lives to investigating
the phenomenon called intelligence are in universal agreement that
you are wrong.
Stephen Jay Gould's socialist polemic doesn't count, because
Stephen Jay Gould is a biologist, not an intelligence researcher.
> logical/analytical style intelligence, but intelligence is far more wide
> ranging than that. I'm not sure human intelligence can truly be measured by
> groupings of checkboxes, if it were that easy we would have created
> intelligent machines long ago, all these things can truly measure is certain
> aspects of intelligence.
http://www.sciam.com/specialissues/1198intelligence/1198gottfred.html
See also "The Bell Curve" by Murray and Herrnstein.
>
> ian.
>
> \ /
> (@_@) http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature)
> /(&)\ http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art)
> | |
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:27:49 -0500
chrisv wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> The kind of person that works slowly but precisely and creatively scores
> >> poorly in IQ tests.
> >
> >....and is probably dumb as a box of rocks.
>
> Well, no reasonable person can deny that their are different talents
> related to your brain that are not measured by IQ tests. In my own
> case, I do plenty well on IQ tests, but, if asked to draw something
> artistically, I do very poorly. Am I "smarter" than a person with
> more artistic talent but less mathematical talent than me?
Artistic creativity has NOTHING to do with intelligence.
This is universally agreed upon by both psychologists AND intelligence
researchers.
Hope that helps.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 18:32:32 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:10:46 -0300, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Peter Hayes wrote:
>
> > On 25 Feb 2001 13:18:30 -0700, Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > says...
> >
> > <...>
> >
> >> > > Certain layout applications use their own printer definitions so that
> >> > > WYSIWYG actually works correctly.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe some do, but the ones I use don't.
> >>
> >> Some linux application do as well (gimp, WordPerfect 7), but the vast
> >> majority don't.
> >
> > Not so.
> >
> > StarOffice 5.2 has its own drivers, or offers "system" drivers, I'm not
> > sure which, but I suspect it has its own because a driver for my Epson
> > Stylus Color doesn't appear on its list. In any event, the StarOffice test
> > page just form feeds the paper, but prints nothing, so that's one Linux
> > product that's useless for me... not surprising, I guess, if it doesn't
> > have a driver for my printer and fails to route print data via CUPS.
>
> StarOffice's "generic printer" driver simply generates postscript and feeds
> it to the printing command. The printing command is configurable using
> StarOffice's printer configuration tool, usually in Linux it should be
> "lpr", as long as you have only one printer.
That "prints" a blank page. No text, no ascii garbage, no PostScript, just
a form-feed.
> > LyX looks nice, but it also merely exercises the form feed motor. Looking
> > at the documentation, it has a massively convoluted system for printing,
> > which keeps the processor working flat out for several minutes, but all it
> > produces is a blank page.
> >
> > Are these Linux Oopsies, Mandrake Oopsies, StarOffice and LyX Oopsies, or
> > my Oopsies????????
>
> Your Oopsies. You have not configured the system-wide driver to which most
> other programs just feed postscript.
Sorry, but that is just WRONG.
I configured the system-wide driver via CUPS as per the utility supplied
with Mandrake 7.2 and as I've said above it works fine with Kword, AbiWord
and various small text editors like gedit. I can't do more than that.
Yet SO, LyX and sundry others don't work. How is it suddenly my fault when
others work???
Peter
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: 08 Mar 2001 11:37:23 -0700
Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 25 Feb 2001 13:18:30 -0700, Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> <...>
>
> > > > Certain layout applications use their own printer definitions so that
> > > > WYSIWYG actually works correctly.
> > >
> > > Maybe some do, but the ones I use don't.
> >
> > Some linux application do as well (gimp, WordPerfect 7), but the vast
> > majority don't.
>
> Not so.
>
> StarOffice 5.2 has its own drivers, or offers "system" drivers, I'm
> not sure which, but I suspect it has its own because a driver for my
> Epson Stylus Color doesn't appear on its list. In any event, the
> StarOffice test page just form feeds the paper, but prints nothing,
> so that's one Linux product that's useless for me... not surprising,
> I guess, if it doesn't have a driver for my printer and fails to
> route print data via CUPS.
>
> LyX looks nice, but it also merely exercises the form feed
> motor. Looking at the documentation, it has a massively convoluted
> system for printing, which keeps the processor working flat out for
> several minutes, but all it produces is a blank page.
>
> Are these Linux Oopsies, Mandrake Oopsies, StarOffice and LyX
> Oopsies, or my Oopsies????????
Your oopsies. You need to setup your default printer. Most
distributions will do that for you such that when you send PostScript
to the printer it will be rendered and formatted for your particular
printer. If you're printer isn't supported then there's nothing you
can really do. If you're curious as to the how, please let us know
what distribution you're using.
By the way: Which distribution ships CUPS as the standard spooler?
> I'm sure a little more research will uncover swathes of apps that have
> their own ideas about printing.
Not really. UNIX applications expect to print PostScript. Some (like
WordPerfect, for example) try to impelement their own rasterizers
instead for some reason.
> Kword, part of Koffice 2.0.1, works as I and any other sane person
> would expect, but it hasn't much idea about fonts. Oh, and Kword
> crashes into oblivion if you ask it to print but there's no printer,
> or it's not switched on.
Considering it is an alpha product, no surprises there...
> AbiWord works ok. So do the little text editors like gedit, nedit
> texteditor.
>
> So it's not quite true to say that "the vast majority" don't have
> their own drivers. It's a lottery whether your app will print using
> the so-called "installed" or "default" printer.
>
> In the Windows world, these apps wouldn't last five minutes if the
> user didn't get an intellegent output from File -> Print.
In the Windows world the printer manufacturers write the drivers for
Microsoft, whereas we have to do it by hand. It's one of those silly
monopoly issues that we keep talking about.
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a PCI slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The merits of the BSD license.
Date: 08 Mar 2001 11:38:44 -0700
Ian Pulsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There has been some discussion about the GPL lately, I'd like to bring
> up a little discussion about the BSDL.
>
> The BSD license is a permissive license that basically allows you to do
> whatever you want with the software. This is the guts of it:
[snip good post]
Actually, you don't need to give credit to anyone in the new BSD
license.
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a PCI slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:42:44 -0500
Allisson wrote:
>
> [given the discussion at hand and the participants, I have no clue which
> groups are relevant to trim. I appologize in advance if I've x-posted
> in error]
>
> The Danimal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Mike wrote:
> >> Stephen Jay Gould wrote a book a few years ago called "The Mismeasure of
> >> Man," that looked at the history and practice of intelligence tests. It's
> >> hard to read his book and still conclude that intelligence tests are
> >> particularly useful.
> >
> >It gets considerably easier after you read some of the commentary
> >on Gould's masterpiece of politically motivated deception. Start here:
> >
> >http://www.ozemail.com.au/~kmcguinn/kdoc/mom-review.htm
> >
>
> Having read some of Gould's work, I can say I find him a tad deceptive
> as well. [Yes, Dan, I disliked both Gould and the Bell Curve.] The
> yawn of a book "Full House" springs to mind. I'd quote some of it;
> however,I donated it to the library prior to moving almost halfway
> across the country.
>
> >> It's even harder to look at the history of the tests,
> >> and their attempts to distill intelligence down to a single number, and
> >> conclude that we should place much faith in them at all.
> >
> >But we don't have to put "faith" in the tests. We put faith
> >in the data, because irrationality is the only alternative to
> >believing what you can measure repeatedly. See:
> >
> >http://www.sciam.com/specialissues/1198intelligence/1198gottfredbox2.html
> >
> >to get an idea of what IQ tests measure (a person's probabilities
> >of particular social outcomes).
> >
>
> I found it interesting to note that I fell in the small percentages for
> both illegitimate children and divorce. I do wonder if the divorce numbers
> are so low for those in the top centiles of IQ solely because so few
> of them marry in the first place.
>
Actually, those in the top centiles of IQ marry MORE often...especially
the men. The difference is...just like everything else they do...they
do so INTELLIGENTLY.
I know a LOT of dumbasses who got married at 19-20, and were already
divorced within 5 years of graduating from high school. Those who
are more intelligent pause to consider exactly what they are getting
into...and tell those who are obviously unsuitable to go take a hike
before getting themselves trapped in a bad marriage....prefering to
wait for someone who is truly worthwhile.
> Allisson
> --
> "Eating words has never given me indigestion" - Winston Churchill
> You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him to find it
> within himself." --Galileo Galilei [1564-1642]
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:44:19 -0500
Mike wrote:
>
> "Brock Hannibal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Mike wrote:
> ...
> > > On the other hand, having a piece of paper that says I'm even smarter
> than
> > > Einstein only convinces the folks who believe that a two hour test can
> > > accurately indicate intelligence. It sure doesn't convince me.
> >
> > Unfortunately you don't have a piece of paper that says you're
> > smarter than Einstein, so we cannot test this vague and ill-formed
> > hypothesis. I could write the paper for you, though.
>
> You're right about the Einstein part: I was being sarcastic. But my score
> was high enough to put me well into the 99th percentile.
So, like, you're telling us that, in reality, you're ACTUALLY one of
the dumbest guys in the office...
>
> -- Mike --
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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