Linux-Advocacy Digest #704, Volume #33 Thu, 19 Apr 01 18:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 (Tor Iver Wilhelmsen)
Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 (Tor Iver Wilhelmsen)
Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 (John Ridley)
Re: What's the point ("spicerun")
Re: Recommendation for web email ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Rick)
Firewire nightmare (Mark Styles)
Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN) (Rob
Robertson)
Re: What's the point (Richard Thrippleton)
Re: Recommendation for web email (Nigel Feltham)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Nigel Feltham)
Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised (Craig Kelley)
Re: Postgres 7.1 Released ("Joseph T. Adams")
Aaron Kuklis Arrested! ("Public " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN) ("Joseph T.
Adams")
Re: What's the point ("pookoopookoo")
Re: What's the point (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Aaron Kuklis Arrested! (WesTralia)
Re: What's the point (Nigel Feltham)
Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:9 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
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Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
From: Tor Iver Wilhelmsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:24:27 GMT
"Jim Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On the other hand, there's always the possibility that a preference
> for intercourse with his camera is the REAL reason our friend above
> has refrained from procreation.....
I don't get you assholes: You keep throwing around pathetic insults at
anyone who posted anything non-negative about the presence of the four
letter word in the initial subject line - without EVER providing an
alternative to the common English expression "to be fucked" when used
in this non-sexual context.
Please get some life, all of you.
--
Tor Iver Wilhelmsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This line intentionally left cluttered. dfgjksdfdghsdknfgsjksngskj
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Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
From: Tor Iver Wilhelmsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:29:13 GMT
John Ridley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hitler. Nazis. There, this thread is officially over. Please shut
> up.
Ah - but Goodwin's Law has a corollary that it's voided if someone
tries to invoke it on purpose.
Thank you very much, the thread will now _never_ die.
--
Tor Iver Wilhelmsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
My random .sig generator picked the t-string this time.
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From: John Ridley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Am I f******? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:08:19 -0400
Well, "one never knows, do one?"
It'd be nice to have a magic "stop the flamewar" button, wouldn't it?
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:15:03 -0700, Debbie the Gruesome
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It's called Godwin's Law, and the catch is: you can't
>just say Nazi or Hitler. It has to be used in a real
>sentence, the usual form is either calling someone
>a Nazi or comparing them to Hitler.
>
>In article <9bmv7l$a76f7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>> Hmmm....never knew that, and I have been posting to Usenet for years. You
>> are right. I will drop this thread now. Thanks.
>>
>> "John Ridley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> > By the way, apparently you didn't get the joke. It's an unwritten
>> > rule of Usenet that all flamewars eventually come around to the point
>> > where someone mentions either Hitler or Nazis. At that point, the
>> > thread is usually considered over.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>1
=====
John Ridley
http://ridley.dyndns.org
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From: "spicerun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:15:37 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Roberto Alsina"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What distro using XFree 4 doesn't?
>
I don't recall Suse 7.1 having an XF86Config-4. I have a utility to set
up my Fury Rage Pro Card for me, and I had to tell it that XF86Config was
the file in Suse after looking for the -4 file.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Recommendation for web email
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:03:20 +0100
remove the hyphen to reply wrote:
>
> I wanna move away from hotmail, lets just say it's a matter of principal,
> but I'd like to find a site that has a spam filter and a reasonably good
> service level (i.e. not down alot). I would also be nice to have a way to
> import and export the address book. Can anyone make a recomendation? (I
> would be nice if the site ran Linux; for moral support reasons).
>
> TIA
>
> David
>
> http://www.taxax.org
email.com is pretty good
--
http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:29:10 -0400
JS PL wrote:
>
> As hard as it may be to believe, even in Washington, price and quality have
> some value. When a reporter asked why her agency uses Microsoft products,
> Reno explained that her procurement policy is to "buy the best equipment
> possible at the lowest price possible to benefit the American taxpayers."
>
> That's quite a concession. The purpose of American anti-trust law is not to
> prop up corporations that are losing market share, but to protect consumers.
> If Windows is the "best" available operating system at the "lowest possible
> price," it's hard to see what good it does Microsoft customers to split the
> company in half.
If it wasnt for Micro$oft's predatory pricing, the costs would be even
less.
--
Rick
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From: Mark Styles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Firewire nightmare
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:37:16 -0400
After purchasing a new digital camcorder, I decided I would like to
capture vids to put online, so I went out and bought an Adaptec
FireConnect 4300 IEEE1394 capture card. My nightmare began....
After plugging the card in to my Windows PC, I booted up. The card got
picked up, so far so good I thought. I turned on my camera, nothing
happened. I fiddled around for a while, then gave up and emailed
Adaptec support. They told me I had to upgrade Windows 98 to Windows98
SE.
After upgrading (after physically removing my 2nd hard drive because
the upgrade process was complaining about it), I tried again. This
time the camera appeared in device manager, but trying to capture
locked up the PC.
Another email to Adaptec, and this time I had to shuffle the PCI cards
around to get the card on it's own interrupt (so much for plug and
play!). After trying countless combinations I finally managed to get
the card all on it's lonesome at IRQ 5. I rebooted and tried again.
No good, the capture software still locked up. I emailed Adaptec
again, this time they phoned me, and I spent two hours on the phone
with the guy (who was extremely pleasant and helpful btw) trying to
get it sorted out. We managed to get the capture software to stop
locking up, but all I could capture was a garbled image. He decided it
was a faulty card.
I took the card back to the shop and got a replacement. Plugged it in,
exactly the same problem. Now the technician has decided it is
something wrong with Windows, but he has no idea what, or how to deal
with it.
So, after all that, I've decided that I'm going to try to install the
card in my Linux machine instead, and use the - still under
development - firewire drivers for Linux. I'll report back on whether
or not this experience is any less unpleasant.
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From: Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:51:30 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>>>> Rob Robertson writes:
<snip>
> Rob> I think you're off-base on this.
>
> Perhaps in this case. Do you want me to dig up some of his
> many calls for killing on the basis of political views?
>
> How about his version of debtor prisons?
No, that's alright.
I think I've seen (and <ahem> NOT seen) enough.
> --
> Andrew Hall
> (Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
_
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Thrippleton)
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:22:49 +0000
In article <CGjD6.1564$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Doug Patterson wrote:
<snip>
>Mature app categories in Windows or DOS have equivalents that still aren't
>to Version 1.0 yet under Linux! Nobody's fault, but why should the world
>wait when mature apps are there under that "other" platform?
1.0 is _just a number_; it doesn't necessarily mean the apps are
'mature'. The vast majority of Windows and DOS popular software is
commercial, and the owners figure it'll sell better by impressing dumb
users; take a bit of crappy software and call it x.0. Linux popular software
is mainly open source, where the ethos is not to impress with glitz and hype
but with quality. Take some software like this at say 0.94, and the chances
are it has a heck of a lot less bugs then the equivalent Windows crap at,
say, version 3.0. Version 1.0 means either "let's sell it" or "it's bug
free" to different groups; guess which.
Richard
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From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recommendation for web email
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:25:50 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> remove the hyphen to reply wrote:
> >
> > I wanna move away from hotmail, lets just say it's a matter of
> > principal, but I'd like to find a site that has a spam filter and a
> > reasonably good service level (i.e. not down alot). I would also be nice
> > to have a way to import and export the address book. Can anyone make a
> > recomendation? (I would be nice if the site ran Linux; for moral support
> > reasons).
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > David
> >
> > http://www.taxax.org
>
> email.com is pretty good
You could also try www.linuxmaill.org - an email site run exclusively on
Linux - I haven't tried it personally though so cannot comment on quality
of their service.
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From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:28:26 +0100
> The problem is not that Windows or Office are bad software. They aren't.
> Windows and Office are both fabulous.
>
Yes I particularly love the way it regularly crashes just when you are
about to save the past 2 hours work and lose it all - great feature that.
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised
Date: 19 Apr 2001 15:21:02 -0600
T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Said Craig Kelley in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 05 Apr 2001 23:13:48
> >T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> Said Craig Kelley in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 05 Apr 2001 09:38:42
> >> >"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >
> >> >> Oh, so the Rep's were the only ones honest about their dealings?
> >> >
> >> >Of course not, but at least republicans go after Microsoft with the
> >> >intent of restoring a free market, and not with some loony class-war
> >> >redistribution of wealth fanaticism.
> >>
> >> Liberals have no class-war issues; that's just the straw-man of the
> >> conservatives. Communists have class-war issues. Liberals are not
> >> watered-down communists. That is, again, just the straw-man of the
> >> conservatives. They have a lot of them.
> >
> >You say toe-may-toe, I say toe-ma-toe.
> >
> >Without getting into the particulars, both class warfare and straw man
> >classifications are subjective terms as seen through the eyes of an
> >individual.
>
> Ultimately, all terms are thus subjective, making this an unnecessary,
> and therefore dubious, point.
>
> >I would say that flaming [ie, not run-of-the-mill]
> >liberals are full of straw man arguments (such as: "republicans are
> >the party of big business while democrats are the party of the people"
> >[Barbara Striesand]), but that's probably meaningless to you. Also, I
> >would define such statements as class warfare.
>
> Actually, republicans *are* the party of big business while
> democrats are the party of the people.
Guh.
Who works at "big businesses"?
Individuals.
> Of course, republicans like to pretend they are the party of the
> individual, and democrats would like to pretend they aren't flaming
> liberals. My point was that the straw men and class warfare of the
> liberals is no less nor more subjective or objective than the straw
> men and class warfare of the conservatives.
And yet you run around making statements like
"Actually, republicans *are* the party of big business while
democrats are the party of the people."
As if,
1) The two are diametrically opposing forces; mutually exclusive
(They aren't)
2) Big business doesn't depend on individuals or vice-versa
(They do)
I find it strange that you are making a point about the subjectivity
of such claims by making the same claims; it reeks of liberal
snobbery. Democrats like to pretend they aren't flaming liberals
because they know it doesn't work in The Real World; as nice as it
would be if it did work (apologies to Gene Roddenberry's perfect
future).
It all comes back to Dave Berry's "Conservatives are the daddy-party
and Liberals are the mommy-party". We have to have a happy (or at
least pseudo-dysfunctional-happy) balance between the two; the law on
one hand and mercy on the other; nuclear power and pollution and
electricity on the one side and regulations on the other; a military
defense on the one hand and good diplomacy on the other. This whole
Microsoft trial falls under the "protect the free market" folder in my
head, and not under the "tax the successful people to make the world
more fair" folder.
If either side becomes too powerful then the system breaks; I just
wish the libral party had more intelligent debaters that used *facts*
more often than *feelings*; but that may simply be a reflection of my
being and I respect that others may not "feel" the same way about this
issue. I also respect the need to have open discussion about these
issues; the last thing we need is a closed mind on *any* issue or
*any* president, no matter how badly he butchers the English
language.
> The concept of class warfare comes from Marx, which is communism,
> and both liberals and conservatives have a very strong affinity,
> which both deny just as strongly and both are accused of by the
> other just as routinely, with communism; the democrats in the
> socio-economic method, and the republicans in the political method.
Class warfware has been around a lot longer than Marx; much of the
Bible is about class warfare (and race warfare, and genocide, and
infancide, but I digress...)
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Postgres 7.1 Released
Date: 19 Apr 2001 21:21:23 GMT
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: One feature I simply love about postgres is the ability to create an index
: based on a function, as in:
: create index fubar_ndx on table (function(column)) ;
I've got users who need to efficiently search a table with 9 million
records (and growing at 60%/year) on the *width* of the contents of a
particular field.
Postgres could do this without a problem by using the kind of index
you described. MS SQL Server can't, and we're currently trying to
figure out what sort of ugly kludge will be necessary in order to
simulate the comparable functionality. More than likely, we'll have
to create a separate field holding the width of the contents of the
one we actually care about, but the work needed to keep it in sync
with the contents will greatly complicate and slow down every other
part of the program.
Joe
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Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:23:08 -0500
From: "Public <Anonymous_Account>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Aaron Kuklis Arrested!
I think the following explains why Usenet has been without Kuklis the last couple
of days:
April 17, 2001 22:12:30 - Associated Press
Royal Oak, Michigan - A man was arrested on Monday at a local CompUSA store after
causing a disturbance and threatening store employees. Police were called to the
scene shortly after 5PM after the store manager called 911 and reported the they
had a hostile customer who was threatening and hysterical. Police arrived on the
scene and discovered the suspect, identified as Aaron Kuklis, screaming at the top of
his
lungs. The man was allegedly became irrate shortly after entering the store and
discovering that CompuUSA was no longer carrying the Windows 98 Operating System.
Police booked Mr. Kuklis into the county detention center on public nuisance charges.
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN)
Date: 19 Apr 2001 21:27:34 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Gunner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>If he truly is guilty of a capital offense, then the end result will
:>be similar. But it will have been arrived at legitimately, without
:>making criminals out of all of us.
:>
:>
:>Joe
: Joe..you are missing the point. I take it you came in late. Sliverdick
: WANTS pure democracy. He wants the willadapipple to be first and
: foremost. The Democratic and Legal (by his own definition) way to settle
: the matter is by mob rule...er.. a legal Democratic election. So far..
: the Ayes have it. Now that you understand that based on SDs OWN stated
: desire for pure Democracy.. how do you vote?
It would be illegal and wrong for me to support or condone pure
democracy, even for purposes of teaching a thug-wannabe an admittedly
much needed and deserved lesson.
Joe
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From: "pookoopookoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:33:44 -0400
> It just isn't so. Those same features that make Linux great, also make
Windows
> gurus nuts because it works completely different. It works better than
both
> NT/2k and DOS/Windows, just different.
I think you meant to say "It DOESN'T work better/worse than both NT/2k and
DOS/Windows, just different."
That I'll believe. I have Redhat 6.0 installed and I find X crashes a hell
of a lot more than windows as a whole. Trivial things (like making symlinks
fer christ's sake) will bring gnome to a screeching halt. I seem to have
traded "ctrl-alt-delete" for "ctrl-alt-backspace", only with way uglier UI
graphics and no games =(
X is not a stable environment, and in my case the windowing system IS the
OS. I'm sorry to say.
I'm a graphic designer by trade, not a programmer. I find linux VERY user
unfriendly. I have yet to find something to do on it that I can't do easier,
faster and more reliably in windows (and even, to a lesser degree, MacOS 9).
I'm used to photoshop, illustrator and quark...Gimp, killustrator and latex
are VERY poor substitutes...=(
I'd use a free OS if I could. I love the principle behind Linux (that's the
liberal commie in me speaking =).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:34:41 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Nigel Feltham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:02:26 +0100
<9bkujc$9tp2g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Todd wrote:
>
>>
>> Welcome to Linux.
>>
>> It takes endless hours to do simple things that under Windows is done
>> automatically.
>>
>> And they say it is a conspiracy.
>>
>
>OK - Name one thing that Windows does automatiaclly that Linux takes hours
>to do.
Crash. :-)
>
>At my last employer one of my regular jobs was to do a backup evey friday -
>Under windows I had to make a new CD-R burning project each week and spend
>up to 2 hours going through the server to work out what was new and needed
>backing up, under linux I spent under half an hour writing a shell script
>to create the CD project for me (using the 'find' command to list all
>directories created in last 3 weeks to give some overlap between backups).
>
>The result of this is instead of wasting 2 hours every friday morning on
>the weekly backups I could just click an icon on the KDE desktop and wait
>about 5 seconds for the CD-R software to appear - from last september when
>I set up the system until the end of last month when I was sadly made
>redundant I saved well over a week of wasted work time due to dumping the
>inefficient steaming turd that is windows and switching to Linux.
>
>It takes under half an hour to automate tasks on linux once (they then take
>seconds) which take hours under windows each time they are needed to be
>achieved.
>
>And they say windows makes tasks easier and quicker - what utter bullshit.
It does! You just have to ensure that the task has been previously
defined by Microsoft. :-)
>
>This is not even counting the blank CD-R's saved by not having any more
>buffer-underrun errors or bluescreens during burning.
>
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 3d:17h:19m actually running Linux.
No electrons were harmed during this message.
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From: WesTralia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron Kuklis Arrested!
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:34:55 -0500
"Public " wrote:
>
> I think the following explains why Usenet has been without Kuklis the last couple
> of days:
>
> April 17, 2001 22:12:30 - Associated Press
>
> Royal Oak, Michigan - A man was arrested on Monday at a local CompUSA store after
> causing a disturbance and threatening store employees. Police were called to the
> scene shortly after 5PM after the store manager called 911 and reported the they
> had a hostile customer who was threatening and hysterical. Police arrived on the
> scene and discovered the suspect, identified as Aaron Kuklis, screaming at the top
>of his
> lungs. The man was allegedly became irrate shortly after entering the store and
> discovering that CompuUSA was no longer carrying the Windows 98 Operating System.
>
> Police booked Mr. Kuklis into the county detention center on public nuisance charges.
>
I have it from a reliable source that upon searching Mr Kulkis' trousers
the police found a shrink-wrapped version "small edition" of Microsoft Bob.
--
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From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:58:49 +0100
> No. Microsoft bought QDOS from Seattle Computer Products in 1980 and,
> with IBM's help, used it as the starting point to create MS-DOS which
> IBM sold under the name IBM-DOS. This is why IBM had to Microsoft a
> royalty on each copy sold.
>
Seattle Computer Products QDOS was designed as a clone of CPM from the mid
70's which in turn was designed as a unix look&feel system for
microcomputers (at the time only minicomputers and mainframes were powerful
enough to run real unix) so in a way DOS is derived from late 60's to early
70's UNIX, hence the similarity of many shell commands.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:9 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN)
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:53:45 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > "Gunner ©" wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:08:44 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hehehehhehe
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm not registered to vote in this precinct, but since I'm a registered
> > > >> Democrat does that matter? <G>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >Since Democrats don't care about such niceties, you are allowed
> > > >to vote AYE in the election, regardless of where you live.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > In fact Sue... you can even vote more than once. Feel free to fill out
> > > the form in your hometown, and again while visiting Fresno.
> > >
> >
> > In the spirit of the Democrat Party, I'll make that 5 AYEs for Sue
> > 4 in her home town, and one in Fresno.
>
> As a Democrat I suppose I should demand some money for my votes, but
In Milwaukee, the Democrat's unit of exchange is a pack of cigarettes.
> I've reformed over the last few years so you're welcome to 'em.
>
> Sue
>
> > AYE: 9
> > NAY: 0
> > ABSTAIN: 1
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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