Linux-Advocacy Digest #876, Volume #32 Sun, 18 Mar 01 20:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!> (Charles Lyttle)
Re: Breaking into the Unix field: FreeBSD vs Linux (RH7) (Vid Strpic)
Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!> (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Yet more XBox bogification... ("John C. Randolph")
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software (Graham Murray)
Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!> (Charlie Ebert)
Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!> (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Yet more XBox bogification... (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software (phil hunt)
Re: Yet more XBox bogification... (.)
Re: Memory needed to run linux / X windows ??? (jtnews)
Re: Yet more XBox bogification... (.)
Re: Yet more XBox bogification... (.)
Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!> (.)
Re: IBM adapting entire disk storage line to work with Linux (.)
Re: Memory needed to run linux / X windows ??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What is user friendly? ("Andy Walker")
Re: Judge Harry Edwards comments.... ("Andy Walker")
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From: Charles Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!>
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:16:59 GMT
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Charles Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > >
> > > "CR Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > The real truth is that Germany is still pissed that MS included
> > > Diskeeper
> > > > > technology whos CEO is a scientologist.
> > > > Already forgotten the "NSAKEY" backdoor? That was the "backup" key
> that
> > > > MS put in the OS in case they (they being MS) "forgot" the primary key
> > > > and needed to update your software.
> > >
> > > That would be the backdoor that one of the top cryptologists in the
> world
> > > says he doesn't believe exists.
> > >
> > > Bruce Schneier, author of Applied Cryptography and considered a
> formemost
> > > expert in cryptogrophy chimed in on the entire NSAKEY incident saying
> that
> > > the paranoia mongers arguments simply didn't make sense.
> > >
> > >
> http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-9909.html#NSAKeyinMicrosoftCryptoAPI
> > >
> > > "But it's not an NSA key so they can secretly inflict weak cryptography
> on
> > > the unsuspecting masses. There are just too many smarter things they can
> do
> > > to the unsuspecting masses."
> >
> > Erick has tried to change the subject. Note that we are talking about
> > two different things : one is the existance of backdoors. The other is
> > the existance of NSA specific backdoors. Also note that Schneier doesn't
> > say that backdoors don't exist.
>
> I'm not changing the subject. I didn't bring up the NSAKEY issue, you did.
>
> > Schneier makes the point that the NSA doesn't need a key for its
> > specific backdoor. That doesn't mean that backdoors don't exist. The
> > NSAKEY did exist and it was a backdoor deliberately put in by MS.
> > Whether it had anything to do with No Such Agency or not is another
> > matter. According to MS, it was just a spare in case they forgot their
> > original key, according to NSA ""
>
> It's not a back door in any traditional sense. All it does is allow MS to
> replace crypto modules if the primary key becomes lost or corrupted.
> replacing the module doesn't cause you to suddenly be able to decrypt stuff
> that was encrypted with the earlier module, it just changes the algorithm.
>
All it does is allow MS to replace modules any time they wish and can
get access (local or remote) to your machine.
> It doesn't give you access to run programs or download data or whatever.
--
Russ Lyttle
"World Domination through Penguin Power"
The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
<http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vid Strpic)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,alt.fan.warlord
Subject: Re: Breaking into the Unix field: FreeBSD vs Linux (RH7)
Date: 18 Mar 2001 18:04:38 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis said unto us in comp.unix.advocacy :
[50dd]
>
>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
Especially ugly example of overly long signature, and not at least
funny.
How did hell he escaped my killfiles?
--
)) Vid Strpic, IRC:Martin, [EMAIL PROTECTED], /bin/zsh.
(( (I don't speak for my employer, just for myself.)
C|~~| UNIX fundamentalist - and an average chauvinistic male.
`--'
C|N>K Never anger a dragon, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:28:21 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, J Sloan wrote:
>Dave Martel wrote:
>
>> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/17679.html>
>>
>> German armed forces ban MS software, citing NSA snooping
>> By: John Lettice
>> Posted: 17/03/2001 at 18:59 GMT
>>
>> The German foreign office and Bundeswehr are pulling the
>> plugs on Microsoft software, citing security concerns,
>> according to the German news magazine Der Spiegel.
>> Spiegel claims that German security authorities suspect that
>> the US National Security Agency (NSA) has 'back door'
>> access to Microsoft source code, and can therefore easily
>> read the Federal Republic's deepest secrets.
>>
>> "The Bundeswehr will no longer use American software ... on
>> computers used in sensitive areas..."
>
>This makes me quite proud of my German ancestry.
>
>j
>
What IS true from this fact are the rest of Europe will
follow suit with Germany.
Microsoft IS a security threat. Plain and simple.
And THEY DO have a platform to replace all their Microsoft
software with Linux software.
That is the agenda.
And as a special note to the home boy investors here in the
United States of America, then sell your Mercedes and BMW's
and return to Cadillacs and Lincolns.
Your business is RUNNING Microsoft - YOU HAVE APPROVED THE
DESISION - YOU HAVE MADE A MISTAKE - YOU MUST BACK OUT NOW!!!
YOU CAN NOT CONVERT YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM OVER TO LINUX IN THE
FINAL 2 MONTHS OF THE MICROSOFT REIGN.
SYSTEM CONVERSIONS OF THIS KIND TAKE TYPICALLY 2-3 YEARS.
DO NOT FUCK AROUND WITH THIS BOYS AND GIRLS OR YOU MAY
WIND UP OWNING A POPCORN FARM.
And with this in addition to the already panic stricken
market and frankly a depression like wave comming upon us,
isn't NOW the TIME FOR YOU TO NOT BE A FUCKING DUMBASS.
Charlie
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From: "John C. Randolph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Yet more XBox bogification...
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 15:25:21 -0800
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9933mv$4gc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [crossposted]
> >
> > Look, I have no particular hatred of Microsoft,
> > but this is bullshit.
> >
> > First, we have this:
> >
> > http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=3550576
> > http://www.mikekraus.de/lol.jpg
> >
> > Then we have this:
> >
> > http://xbox.ign.com/news/32476.html
> >
> > Now, is there any mention of it on xbox.com?
> >
> > http://www.xbox.com:/News/
> >
> > Golly gee whiz, no.
> >
> > I'll defend WindowsNT where it's warranted, and I'll
> > attempt to debunk statements that I think are untrue,
> > but this sort of crap is inexcusable, and it looks like
> > Microsoft is resorting to lying yet again, merely to boost
> > sales. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
>
> So basically, some moron posts a lie to a message board,
> and suddenly it's news and suddenly it's fact.
He didn't lie, fool.
read this:
http://xbox.ign.com/news/32476.html
MicroSquish admitted it.
-jcr
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From: Graham Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: 18 Mar 2001 22:48:40 +0000
In gnu.misc.discuss, Austin Ziegler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Most users aren't going to know a fscking thing about hiring a
> software developer to fix their software problems -- again, this is
> a fact.
That may be a fact now, but if free software becomes the norm will it
still be case? I am sure that the "software service" shops would
appear in the same way as there are now have TV repair shops and type
and exhaust centres.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:32:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chad Everett wrote:
>
>The rigor of their security clearance procedures has nothing whatsoever
>to do with their ability to break modern encryption algorithms.
>
>You probably think the movie "Enemy of the State" is a documentary and
>believe everything you hear on Art Bell.
>
>
TO SIT ON YOUR ASS AND PRETEND THAT GERMANY'S DECISION TO LEAVE
MICROSOFT IS A MILD THREAT AND SOMETHING WHICH BELONGS ON ART BELL
IS TRUELY CRAZY.
This is GERMANY! They practically OWN all the european banks.
At one time in our history they practically conquered the world.
Nothing GERMANY does can be taken lightly.
NOTHING!
Charlie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:47:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>Jan Johanson wrote:
>> > Let's see, Erik wants actual evidence. How about a backdoor placed
>> > in Microsoft software that allowed users who entered "Netscape programmers
>> > are weenies" to bypass security in Microsoft's web server software
>> > and access pretty much anything they wanted.
>>
>> Evidence? You call this evidence? What you wrote is complete bullshit and
>> does not exist in anything but your fantasy.
>
>And yet, it is a DOCUMENTED FACT, you blithering idiot.
>
>
This is absolutely TRUE. There are SEVERAL back doors
to Microsoft products. Especially in their OS.
The most famous would be the entire theft of Microsoft XP
to an unnamed asian power last year from Microsoft HQ in
Redmond.
This was documented across every newspaper in the Nation
and the FBI is totally stumped.
Anyone who TRUSTS Microsoft for THEIR business needs is
a CLUELESS ASSHOLE.
I think that say's it very well. A CLUELESS ASSHOLE...
Now that WE'VE KNOWN MICROSOFT XP HAS BEEN STOLEN for
over 6 months now, I PREDICTED THEN that it would
take the CLUELESS ASSHOLE BUSINESS FLABS almost an
entire YEAR to recognize the FACT that MICROSOFT IS
A DESPERATE SECURITY THREAT TO EVERYONE WHO USES THE
CRAP!
CLEARLY RAW FACTS ARE NOT ENOUGH FOR THESE IDIOTIC
PEOPLE. THEY MUST BE FUCKED BEFORE THEY CAN LEARN.
I find it totally amazing that people pay million dollar
plus budgets expenditures on Microsoft material when
Linux is totally FREE. It's utterly fucking amazing
to watch them do this year after year after year and
still manage to keep their jobs.
And with the stock market in the shape it is in today,
IT IS MY SINCERE WISH THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
OF EVERY MAJOR COMPANY WITHIN PLANET EARTH COMMITTE
A PURGE OF STUPID FUCKING WINTROL IDIOTS AND THEIR
HABBETS THIS GOD DAM YEAR!
It's astonomically silly that I'm actually having to
type this message. AMAZING!!!!
American business's are supposed to be the TIGERS
of the MARKET.
But instead the American Business man is a fucking
painted ass sheep who waits for death! An appliance
operator hell if I've ever seen one!
Can these fucking people do nothing for themselves?
Are they so god dam lame that everything they have
to use MUST COME WITH A MICROSOFT SEAL OF APPROVAL
before they will know what they are to use it for?
HAVE YOU BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR STEERING YOUR BUSINESS
DOWN THIS MONOPOLISTIC FUCKHOLE OF DESTRUCTION????
WHY????
STOCKHOLDERS! PUT A BOOT TO THEIR FUCKING BUTTHOLES
AND GET THIS SHIT OUT OF HERE! GET IT OUT OF HERE NOW!
Jeezus Christ people!
Don't any of you have any God Dam brains at all!!
Charlie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Yet more XBox bogification...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:54:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John C. Randolph wrote:
>
>
>Chad Myers wrote:
>>
>> "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
Another well known wintrol posts... SSEII.
>> news:9933mv$4gc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > [crossposted]
>> >
>> > Look, I have no particular hatred of Microsoft,
>> > but this is bullshit.
>> >
>> > First, we have this:
>> >
>> > http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=3550576
>> > http://www.mikekraus.de/lol.jpg
>> >
>> > Then we have this:
>> >
>> > http://xbox.ign.com/news/32476.html
>> >
>> > Now, is there any mention of it on xbox.com?
>> >
>> > http://www.xbox.com:/News/
>> >
>> > Golly gee whiz, no.
>> >
>> > I'll defend WindowsNT where it's warranted, and I'll
>> > attempt to debunk statements that I think are untrue,
>> > but this sort of crap is inexcusable, and it looks like
>> > Microsoft is resorting to lying yet again, merely to boost
>> > sales. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
>>
>> So basically, some moron posts a lie to a message board,
>> and suddenly it's news and suddenly it's fact.
>
You actually fought to the last NAIL with me about
Windows. You are one of the biggest WINTROLL'S of
the time on COLA.
And now you are a MICROSOFT TRAITOR!
MICROSOFT IS RUNNING AWAY ALL OF THEIR BUSINESS!
Charlie
>He didn't lie, fool.
>
>read this:
>
>http://xbox.ign.com/news/32476.html
>
>MicroSquish admitted it.
>
>-jcr
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 14:17:28 +0000
On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 05:02:16 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Likewise, free software refers to the ACT of *using software*. Not the
>act of publishing software. Restrictions against redistributing
>software cannot prevent that software from being free any more than
>copyright can prevent speech from being free.
Coipyright can, in some instances, be used to suppress free speech.
For example, someone might use copyright law to suppress publication of
leaked documents.
--
*****[ Phil Hunt ***** [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]*****
"Mommy, make the nasty penguin go away." -- Jim Allchin, MS head
of OS development, regarding open source software (paraphrased).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Yet more XBox bogification...
Date: 19 Mar 2001 00:32:16 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Stephen S. Edwards II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [crossposted]
> Look, I have no particular hatred of Microsoft,
> but this is bullshit.
> First, we have this:
> http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=3550576
> http://www.mikekraus.de/lol.jpg
> Then we have this:
> http://xbox.ign.com/news/32476.html
Oh this is good:
"Frankly, we're impressed with the skillz of those digital
sleuths! Nice work!"
"digital sleuths"
And this is the core of the reason that microsoft is such a huge pile of
worthless shit: Anyone who has used photoshop for more than a couple of
hours knows that lense flare. It doesnt take a digital sleuth, it takes
anything with half a brain. Microsoft has been underestimating the
intelligence of humans for more than a decade now, and has created a whole
army of windows-praising idiots as a result.
And now the rest of us have to deal with them.
Theres no reason to dumb down computers; theyre just not that hard to begin
with.
=====.
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From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Memory needed to run linux / X windows ???
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:29:02 GMT
Ian Pulsford wrote:
>
> jtnews wrote:
> >
> > I was running redhat 6.2 on a Pentium 90 Mhz
> > machine with 32MB for a while.
> >
> > It was bearable just using linux as a dumb
> > X terminal, but beyond that it's intolerably
> > slow.
> >
> > I finally retired my old 90Mhz machine
> > and replaced it with a Dell L700cx
> > with 192MB of RAM, whew! What a difference!
> > :-)
> >
>
> I think you have your terms confused, a Pentium 90 with 32M RAM would
> scream as an X-terminal. I have a diskless AMD5x86(486) X-terminal with
> 24M RAM that runs like I'm sitting at the PII 300 that the X clients are
> actually running on.
What did you think I said? I said
> > > It was bearable just using linux as a dumb
> > > X terminal, but beyond that it's intolerably
> > > slow.
>
> Drag out your old machine, install a minimal system with X, run XDM on
> your new PC, and then run 'X -query newmachinesname' and find out how
> wrong you are about X.
been there done that, like I said, tolerable, but beyond that
it's intolerably slow.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Yet more XBox bogification...
Date: 19 Mar 2001 00:34:08 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9933mv$4gc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> [crossposted]
>>
>> Look, I have no particular hatred of Microsoft,
>> but this is bullshit.
>>
>> First, we have this:
>>
>> http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=3550576
>> http://www.mikekraus.de/lol.jpg
>>
>> Then we have this:
>>
>> http://xbox.ign.com/news/32476.html
>>
>> Now, is there any mention of it on xbox.com?
>>
>> http://www.xbox.com:/News/
>>
>> Golly gee whiz, no.
>>
>> I'll defend WindowsNT where it's warranted, and I'll
>> attempt to debunk statements that I think are untrue,
>> but this sort of crap is inexcusable, and it looks like
>> Microsoft is resorting to lying yet again, merely to boost
>> sales. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
> So basically, some moron posts a lie to a message board,
> and suddenly it's news and suddenly it's fact.
Its not a lie, chad.
> And remember, Adobe Photoshop is the ONLY application in
> the ENTIRE WORLD which can produce lens flares, right?
> So there they HAD TO HAVE touched it up?
That particular lense flare is absolutely from photoshop, because
photoshop OWNS THE ALGORHYTHM THAT GENERATES IT, YOU MORON.
Apparantly you havent done a lick of graphic design in your
life.
> Give me a fucking break.
> Anyone can produce lens flares, and they probably
> duplicated or reproduced whatever photoshop's lens
> flare algorithm is, or close to it.
Close, but no cigar. The halo positioning is uniquely
photoshop. No one else does it.
=====.
--
"ambition makes you look pretty ugly;
kicking and squealing, gucci little piggy"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Yet more XBox bogification...
Date: 19 Mar 2001 00:34:50 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy John C. Randolph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chad Myers wrote:
>>
>> "Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:9933mv$4gc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > [crossposted]
>> >
>> > Look, I have no particular hatred of Microsoft,
>> > but this is bullshit.
>> >
>> > First, we have this:
>> >
>> > http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=3550576
>> > http://www.mikekraus.de/lol.jpg
>> >
>> > Then we have this:
>> >
>> > http://xbox.ign.com/news/32476.html
>> >
>> > Now, is there any mention of it on xbox.com?
>> >
>> > http://www.xbox.com:/News/
>> >
>> > Golly gee whiz, no.
>> >
>> > I'll defend WindowsNT where it's warranted, and I'll
>> > attempt to debunk statements that I think are untrue,
>> > but this sort of crap is inexcusable, and it looks like
>> > Microsoft is resorting to lying yet again, merely to boost
>> > sales. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
>>
>> So basically, some moron posts a lie to a message board,
>> and suddenly it's news and suddenly it's fact.
> He didn't lie, fool.
> read this:
> http://xbox.ign.com/news/32476.html
> MicroSquish admitted it.
Why are you surprised that chad is pulling things out of his
ass in order to defend microsoft?
Chad is a known liar. Every last one of his posts contains
lies.
=====.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: German armed forces ban MS software <gloat!>
Date: 19 Mar 2001 00:35:56 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Charles Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>> >
>> > "CR Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > > > The real truth is that Germany is still pissed that MS included
>> > Diskeeper
>> > > > technology whos CEO is a scientologist.
>> > > Already forgotten the "NSAKEY" backdoor? That was the "backup" key
> that
>> > > MS put in the OS in case they (they being MS) "forgot" the primary key
>> > > and needed to update your software.
>> >
>> > That would be the backdoor that one of the top cryptologists in the
> world
>> > says he doesn't believe exists.
>> >
>> > Bruce Schneier, author of Applied Cryptography and considered a
> formemost
>> > expert in cryptogrophy chimed in on the entire NSAKEY incident saying
> that
>> > the paranoia mongers arguments simply didn't make sense.
>> >
>> >
> http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-9909.html#NSAKeyinMicrosoftCryptoAPI
>> >
>> > "But it's not an NSA key so they can secretly inflict weak cryptography
> on
>> > the unsuspecting masses. There are just too many smarter things they can
> do
>> > to the unsuspecting masses."
>>
>> Erick has tried to change the subject. Note that we are talking about
>> two different things : one is the existance of backdoors. The other is
>> the existance of NSA specific backdoors. Also note that Schneier doesn't
>> say that backdoors don't exist.
> I'm not changing the subject. I didn't bring up the NSAKEY issue, you did.
>> Schneier makes the point that the NSA doesn't need a key for its
>> specific backdoor. That doesn't mean that backdoors don't exist. The
>> NSAKEY did exist and it was a backdoor deliberately put in by MS.
>> Whether it had anything to do with No Such Agency or not is another
>> matter. According to MS, it was just a spare in case they forgot their
>> original key, according to NSA ""
> It's not a back door in any traditional sense. All it does is allow MS to
> replace crypto modules if the primary key becomes lost or corrupted.
> replacing the module doesn't cause you to suddenly be able to decrypt stuff
> that was encrypted with the earlier module, it just changes the algorithm.
> It doesn't give you access to run programs or download data or whatever.
Correct. Thats why god invented back orifice.
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"ambition makes you look pretty ugly;
kicking and squealing, gucci little piggy"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM adapting entire disk storage line to work with Linux
Date: 19 Mar 2001 00:37:17 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Meanwhile, the intelligent individuals who decided not to waste
> their time on worthless university "computer science", and instead
> decided to learn the hot technologies that pay well and are making
> a fortune and are in high demand, even in today's economy.
Chad works for a dotcom, and as such is bound to be laid off any second
now.
I cant wait.
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"ambition makes you look pretty ugly;
kicking and squealing, gucci little piggy"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Memory needed to run linux / X windows ???
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:18:39 +0000
Chad Everett wrote:
> =
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Peter K=F6hlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro=
te:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> I beleive it is theoretically possible to run X with 8Mb of ram. I
> >> wouldn't want to though.
> >
> >Yeah, really is. I once tried just for the heck of it.
> >Worked (naturally), but wasn=B4t of much use either (naturally).
> >
> =
> Back in the old days, i.e. six years ago, we used to use on Sun 3/50s
> as X terminals. They were configured to net boot only what was
> necessary to load and run and X server. X clients would be run
> from other systems over the net.
> =
> 8 Meg is fine to run X. Don't confuse running an X server with running=
> clients and apps.
That is a good point, but from the original post, it seemed that the guy
had only one machine. This means he has to consider apps, because what
use would X be if you couldn't run any apps?
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http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: "Andy Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is user friendly?
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:59:01 -0000
This is just personal experience but I've had a much harder time
installing Windows than I have Linux. As I have a SCSI CD writer and an IDE
CD-ROM it causes me nightmares when installing Windows as upon booting it
deems the IDE drive as D: and once loaded overwrites that making the SCSI
drive D:. This turns the install into an absolute nightmare with the machine
unable to make its mind up which is which when asking for driver disks!
With Linux, providing you have resonably common components, it all seems
to install pretty flawlessly, the vast majority of problems, if you read the
newsgroups, seem to be due to getting it to co-exist with Windows. This
problem is 90% Windows (probably deliberate) inability to tolerate anything
else and the remaining problems due to LILO not booting past its cylinder
limit on older BIOS as the user is initially installing on a old machine
rather than risk upsetting his new state of the art box.
I would like to add that when saying Windows I refer to 95 and 98, not
NT as at home these are still far more common.
What I would call user friendly is booting off a CDROM, the OS loading
without any intervention then automatically downloading any new
updates/drivers over the internet. While tweaking you machine may be fun for
some, the vast majority of people have neither to time nor knowledge to do
so which is why they sadly end up using what came pre-installed, a sad fact
I admit but the truth nether the less.
For home use, unless you are interested in Linux, there is as much point
installing it at home as there is installing NT, other than the fact that it
is free. As Linux becomes more user friendly this may well change. I know a
lot of people don't like Mandrake distribs but they are among the easiest to
install and most up to date software wise. Although not the most stable or
security concious, it does have the beginnings of good 3d acceleration
support and upgrading via the net.
Because of distributions like this you may find Linux appearing on home
machines more frequently, whilst Debian may be excellent most people would
accept its more suitable for the hard core hackers and experts out there and
I don't include myself in that statement.
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From: "Andy Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Judge Harry Edwards comments....
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:16:10 -0000
At the very least in America they have addressed the problem of Microsoft's
behaviour and bought the monopoly argument into the public domain.
What I want to know is when the British Government will even show an
interest in consumer rights in any shape or form. This doesn't just apply to
computer operating systems either. Look at the price of the machines
themselves over here!
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