Linux-Advocacy Digest #191, Volume #33           Fri, 30 Mar 01 08:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Re: Why does Open Source exist, and what way is it developing? (mlw)
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software ("JD")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why does Open Source exist, and what way is it developing?
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:01:44 -0500

Karel Jansens wrote:
> 
> Here is why I think Darwin's theory does not apply to software
> development:
> 
> 1. Biological evolution does _not_ look to the future (it cannot, for
> there is noone to do the looking), but builds up on the past. - Software
> development does nothing but look to the future (this has to be faster,
> that could be coded more efficiently...).

Evolution is the selection of the "best" survivor for the current environment.
Assuming the environment is a steadily changing along a predictable pattern,
then changes now, based on natural selection, better prepare the survivors for
the future.

This is, in fact, how evolution works. It is only when we have had drastic
changes that we have seen many species extinct within a small period of time.
Normally there is time for random traits to develop into recurring traits if
they allow a specimen to be more successful and reproduce more so than one
without.

> 
> 2. Biological evolution is not guided (there is no master plan behind
> it), it just happens. - Software development is _always_ guided (no
> programmer sits behind his console just tapping blindly at the keys (*);
> he wants to create something, and usually has a pretty good idea of what
> it is going to be).

This isn't really true either. A particular module of software, especially OSS,
can be guided by one person, but there are usually many people working on
software projects with their own views and feelings about what should be in it.

Plus don't discount the users asking for features, randomly changing the
application to be more than it was before.

Just look at the Linux kernel, I'd say it "evolved" it grew new features, it
has all but lost the Minux file system. It is a picture perfect example of
software evolution.

> 
> 3. Biological evolution is never interested in the best possible
> solution, only in a solution that works sufficiently. - (I have to admit
> I got stuck here, because this is eerily reminiscent of how Windows
> "works") Software development should (see my previous remark) be
> interested in the best possible solution, to avoid needless future
> labour.

I would go this far either. Biological evolution is based on competition for
reproduction. Good features win, better features often do better. Biological
evolution refines, over time, the species until they are very well adapted for
their environment. You can't say a cockroach is not an almost perfect creature.
Long after we humans die out, the near perfect cockroach will still be here.

> 
> Now, if one insists on twisting Darwin's scientific theory into a
> philosophical system (for which it was never meant BTW), one might come
> up with a utopian construct (in the line of marxism) that said that
> software _ought_to_ develop according to the laws of natural selection.
> It'd be dead wrong, but one might fool a number of people for some

Science and philosophy walk hand in hand. One can not realize that truths about
physical universe and not internalize them. Philosophy is what bridges
knowledge and understanding. A theory as profound as the origin of species must
generate a philosophy. One may not agree with it, nor even intend it's
creation, but it will exist.

-- 
I'm not offering myself as an example; every life evolves by its own laws.
========================
http://www.mohawksoft.com

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:42:10 -0500

Roger Perkins wrote:
> 
> aaron, aaron, aaron, your ass must be frostbitten hanging out the way it
> does.  How does someone as stupid as you survive in the modern world.  Now,
> I know that's now where you mind is, but still!  You don't know history, you
> don't know politics, you certainly don't know the military but you insist on
> shooting your mouth off.

False premise, 


Ah yes, Roger's favorite method of debate..

Proof by ... assertion.


Check out the local university and see if the philosophy department has
a course on logic and epistomology.

> 
> Roger
> AIRBORNE!

What happened....cutoff the oxygen to your brain for too long from
getting your head caught in the shroud lines....



> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Ian Davey wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >He's gonna use nukes against an invasion force on his own beaches,
> > > >so that the fallout can blow all over the island, making the entire
> > > >place uninhabitable....
> > >
> > > You're obviously misunderstanding how Nuclear weapons are used for
> defence.
> > > See the Cold War for instance. It's a case of "hit me and I'll launch my
> > > Nuclear arsenals at your cities". I can't believe you thought he meant
> the
> > > above... not even Castro would have been that stupid.
> > >
> > > >Yeah...right...you're a loony you are.
> > > >
> > > >Remember...several MILLION Americans took an oath to defend the
> Constitution
> > > >from all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC.
> > > >
> > > >So...when we line you up against the wall....don't forget
> > > >
> > > >                        I TOLD YOU SO.
> > >
> > > What, is America a dictatorship now. When did that happen? Or are do you
> > > see the US turning into a dictatorship in the future? Interesting...
> > >
> >
> > No...but the penalty for treason still includes death by firing squad.
> > And if it's wartime, drawing-and-quartering is ALSO a valid penalty.
> >
> >
> >
> > > ian.
> > >
> > >  \ /
> > > (@_@)  http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature)
> > > /(&)\  http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art)
> > >  | |
> >
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
  The wise man is mocked by fools.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:42:38 -0500

chrisv wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Translation: Chrisv can't jump, because he didn't jump
> >       when I told him to.
> 
> Translation into Chinese:  Kulkis has lost all face, because his BLUFF
> was CALLED.
> 
> OUTED!  LOL!

Chris can't jump

100% OUTED!
LOL!

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:43:27 -0500

"." wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > You are so badly brainwashed the the ONLY cure for you is 130 grains
> > of copper-jacketed lead to your head.
> 
> Your death threat has been reported to yahoo.  Sorry about that.
> 

1.  That's not a threat, it's a diagnosis.

2.  I didn't post from Yahoo.

3.  You're an idiot.

Hope that helps.


> -----.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:43:49 -0500

"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> 
> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 28 Mar 2001
> >"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>    [...]
> >> >Communism is an extreme form of socialism, inextribly linked to
> >> >totalitarianism.
> >>
> >> You have no more valid a right to define anything in such a manner as
> >> the average street person, Aaron.
> >>
> >> Communism is a political system, socialism is an economic system.  If we
> >
> >Communism encompasses both politics and economics.
> 
> So says Aaron Kulkis.  Big whoop.
> 

So says Mr. Marx.


> >> presume they are linked, then we sacrifice the definition of either, and
> >> while you may be willing to descend into such a quagmire of prejudice, I
> >> insist on believing that all men, even ones as stupid as you, are acting
> >> rationally.
> 
> --
> T. Max Devlin
>   *** The best way to convince another is
>           to state your case moderately and
>              accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:46:23 -0500

GreyCloud wrote:
> 
> "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> >
> > Said GreyCloud in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:56:28
> > >[...]Eventually,
> > >capitalism will slowly topple the communist system.
> >
> > Didn't they teach any of you little boys in school that capitalism is an
> > economic system, as is socialism, while communism is a political system,
> > as is democracy?  Please, no one-dimensional thinking to explain the
> > error: just admit it is an error and think harder about your opinion.
> > Just because your own carefully learned bigotries prevents you from
> > seeing the two distinctly doesn't mean you should encourage the same
> > prejudice in others.
> >
> > --
> > T. Max Devlin
> >   *** The best way to convince another is
> >           to state your case moderately and
> >              accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***
> 
> Take note: The communist system in the Soviet Union was toppled.
> Communism in the economic sense is a total failure. It isn't bigotry
> when a tin-pot dictator puts up a nuclear missile system designed to
> annihilate you. Its defense.  Little boys will only forget the mistakes
> of their grandfathers and repeat those mistakes.
> I won't forget!  One-dimensional thinking does not take place in the
> analysis of the Cuban mess.  Thats why Cuba still exists as it is.  It
> really wouldn't be all that difficult to just go down south about 90
> miles and put an end to it.

Actually, the communist system is still in place.
They still have laws against 'excessive profits'

They still have confiscatory tax rates (unless you're a member of the
Communist Party).


And most of all, the Communist Party still has full control of the
political machinery and the bureacracy.

Rumor's of Communism's death in Russia are highly exagerrated.

Having been there a few times, I know this for a fact.



> 
> I agree with some of your statements.  We really don't need politics in
> this ng.  Why the commie came in here to push his views of communism in
> a linux advocacy group I'll never know.   I prefer that we ignore
> further posts about this and pursue what this ng is about.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:47:30 -0500

"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> 
> Said GreyCloud in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:42:52
> >"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> >>
> >> Said GreyCloud in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:56:28
> >> >[...]Eventually,
> >> >capitalism will slowly topple the communist system.
> >>
> >> Didn't they teach any of you little boys in school that capitalism is an
> >> economic system, as is socialism, while communism is a political system,
> >> as is democracy?  Please, no one-dimensional thinking to explain the
> >> error: just admit it is an error and think harder about your opinion.
> >> Just because your own carefully learned bigotries prevents you from
> >> seeing the two distinctly doesn't mean you should encourage the same
> >> prejudice in others.
> >>
> >> --
> >> T. Max Devlin
> >>   *** The best way to convince another is
> >>           to state your case moderately and
> >>              accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***
> >
> >Take note: The communist system in the Soviet Union was toppled.
> >Communism in the economic sense is a total failure. [...]
> 
> Apparently, you aren't listening.  Communism *doesn't have* an "economic
> sense", unless you're misusing the word, which generally torpedoes any
> argument you might present on the matter.

Then why does so much of Marx's writings deal with economic systems,
and what he called his Communist economic system...


> 
> --
> T. Max Devlin
>   *** The best way to convince another is
>           to state your case moderately and
>              accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "JD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:10:26 -0500


"Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:QjVw6.29857$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Jeffrey Siegal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Les Mikesell wrote:
> > > > As long as the definitions are clear and well written (which is
> entirely
> > > > the case in terms of the FSF's "free software") it does not take a law
> > > > degree to understand them, nor should anyone be confused simply
> because
> > > > they are unwilling to take a few minutes to read what the definitions
> > > > are in a given context.
> > >
> > > There is nothing at all clear in the GPL regarding the relationship
> > > of shared libraries to each other and the linking program
> >
> > This has nothing to do with the FSF's definition of free software.  Free
> > software is not the same as GPLed software.
>
> Yes, that is the whole point of this argument.   GPL'd software is
> very restricted, hence not free at all.
>
The worst restrictions associated with NON-Free software are the redistribution
restrictions.  Those are indeed EXACTLY the restrictions that are so lauded by
the GPL-being-free crowd.

(Free software can be freely given to others, with no dependencies upon redistribution
of other, non-licensing information or components.)

John



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:48:45 -0500

"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> 
> Said Craig Kelley in alt.destroy.microsoft on 28 Mar 2001 19:45:27
> >T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> Said Craig Kelley in alt.destroy.microsoft on 28 Mar 2001 08:22:12
> >> >Barry Manilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>    [...]
> >> >Have you ever spoken with a Cuban?  I speak fluent spanish and I have
> >> >spoken with *many* and they all pretty much:
> >> >
> >> >  1) Love Cuba
> >> >
> >> >    and
> >> >
> >> >  2) Despise the government
> >>
> >> Sounds like a generic definition of "patriotism" to me.  I'm sure Aaron
> >> Kulkis would agree.  So do Cubans of your acquaintance despise the
> >> government more or less than Aaron Kulkis does?  And on what basis do
> >> you presume this would be different, were Cuba "capitalist" instead of
> >> "communist".
> >
> >But Cuba was claimed as a model of good communisim.
> 
> Claim, shmame.  I could care less about pissing matches.
> 
> >I am merely
> >debunking the assertation.  There are many capitalistic countries that
> >aren't perfect, including the United States; although I'd rather live
> >in our less-than-perfect country than most others.
> 
> Give George W. a few years; he'll change your mind.
> 

Oh, how I dread being freed from confiscatory taxes, and
an over-reaching bureacracy in Washington DC.

How will I live with the burden removed?



-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:50:03 -0500

redc1c4 wrote:
> 
> Ian Davey wrote:
> (snipage occurs)
> 
> "drawing and quartering" is an apt description of erron's cognitive
> abilities (to use a term loosely).
> 
> they drew a picture of a brain, cut it into quarters, and gave him one
> piece, which he promptly lost......... %-)
> 

Tell us again how you believe that the Germans, Japanes, North Koreans,
Chinese, Viet Cong, and North Vietnamese didn't shoot at American
medical personnel.


> redc1c4,
> to get him to shut up, or change the subject, just ask for a cite to
> bolster his claim of your choice. he NEVER has one.........


See above.


> --
> "Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and
>  sly, and bear considerable watching."
> Army Officers Guide
> 
> PMD
> EOM


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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