Linux-Advocacy Digest #208, Volume #33           Sat, 31 Mar 01 01:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  SCSI (Barry Manilow)
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Mircosoft Tax (T. Max Devlin)
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Linus for a 386???? (Gene Rodgers)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:52:04 -0500

Scott Erb wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Communism is a utopian idea which is completely incompatible with
> > human nature.  Hence any attempt to implement it will end in either
> > capitulation or tyranny.  Generally the latter, as anyone driven to
> > take power is not likely to give it up.
> 
> That's a tad simplistic.  Human nature is not necessarily incompatible
> with socialism or communism, but Marxian communism ignored culture and
> politics in its focus on economic determinism.  It also, in its
> Leninists variants, saw the state as being able to enforce a complete
> change in society, something that does indeed lead to tyranny.  If any
> kind of socialism is ever to be achieved, it will have to be democratic
> and chosen, not enforced.  I suspect that is still generations away.

This is why Democracy is *ILLEGAL* at the Federal and State level.

Read the Constitution...it clearly states that the United States federal
government is a Republic *AND* also states that each state, to be a member,
must also guarantee to its citizens that it is also a Republic.

The word "Democracy" does not appear in the Constition, nor do any other
words of the same root.

Democracy is 500 wolves and 100 lambs voting on what to have for dinner.

An American-style Constitutional Republic has representatives from the
populace at large voting on what to have for dinner, with the fundamental
provision that the rights of the lambs (including the right to life)
shall NOT be violated...REGARDLESS of what the wolves want.




-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: Barry Manilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: SCSI
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:10:35 -0800

The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

> I will also note that a disk drive running at 20 MB/s -- SCSI is quite
> capable of this -- will run at 160 mbps, assuming lower-case 'b'
> means 'bit', 

No.  The latest Ultra Wide II SCSI adapters are capable of 160 MB/s. 
That is megabytes, not megabits.  And this makes SCSI of course much
faster than USB, parallel, serial, Firewire, or any of the other
much-hyped ports.  Nothing beats SCSI, nothing.  SCSI: it's just
better.  Especially when using a true multitasking system like OS/2 or
running a server.  I know folks who have all-SCSI: SCSI card, SCSI
scanner, SCSI hard drive, SCSI tape drive, SCSI CD-RW.    
-- 
Bob
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:53:21 -0500

"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> 
> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Fri, 30 Mar 2001
> >Mathew wrote:
>    [...]
> >Having a monopoly is not illegal.
> >
> >Engaging in a pattern of anti-competitive behavior to gain and hold
> >the monopoly *is*.
> 
> And since there *is no other way to have a monopoly* in a free-market
> capitalist economy, having a monopoly is evidence of monopolization, and
> is therefore unlawful, if not illegal.  This is the reason Congress did

Close, but not quite.

Anybody who is the sole supplier of an item manufactured with, or
incorporating, a patent which he holds, is a LEGAL monopolist for
the duration of the patent.




> not outlaw "patterns of anti-competitive behavior to gain or hold a
> monopoly", but simply "monopolization *and attempts to monopolize*"
> (emphasis added).
> 
> --
> T. Max Devlin
>   *** The best way to convince another is
>           to state your case moderately and
>              accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:54:49 -0500

Mathew wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> 
> > Mathew wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > >
> > > > Anonymous wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett) eeped:
> > > > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:59:15 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
> > > > > > >Barry Manilow wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Craig Kelley wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Barry Manilow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > GreyCloud wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > I have freedom to make as much money as I know how.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > The problem with this freedom is that this right ends up killing a 
>lot
> > > > > > >> > > of hard-working, decent human beings.  That is why capitalism is a
> > > > > > >> > > murdering system.  It kills millions of people every year in the
> > > > > > >> > > world.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > As opposed to *what*, exactly.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Cuba, North Korea and China are not paragons of virtue.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> China is practically a capitalist country right now.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Yes, they are beginning to see the light.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >However, the brutal ways of their Communist Revolution and
> > > > > > >subsequent Cultural Revolution are still with them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > comp.os.linux.advocacy.and.debate.on.communism.vs.capitalism
> > > > >
> > > > > yay capitalism!
> > > > > speaking of which, microsoft has done rather well under the free market
> > > > > system don't you think?
> > > >
> > > > Actually, Microsoft has practiced a deliberate campaign of subverting
> > > > the free market.
> > > >
> > > > That's why their always in court.
> > >
> > > Its called monopoly.
> >
> >
> > Having a monopoly is not illegal.
> >
> > Engaging in a pattern of anti-competitive behavior to gain and hold
> > the monopoly *is*.
> 
> Numerous monopolies work on this premise.
> 

And any and all which do are operating illegally.


Of course, a good little Communist like Mathew is all for monopolies...
as long as it's a GOVERNMENT monopoly...




> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >                         jackie 'anakin' tokeman
> > > > >
> > > > > tee hee!
> > > > >
> > > > > p.s. why are so many linux users fat ugly beardos?
> > > > >
> > > > > jest axin
> > > > >
> > > > > men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> > > > > more even than death
> > > > > - bertrand russell
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > Unix Systems Engineer
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:56:07 -0500

"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> 
> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Fri, 30 Mar 2001
>    [...]
> >If someone attempts to enter your country, unanounced, without making
> >proper contact with the appropriate authorities (customs officials,
> >border patrol, air traffic control), then they are a legitimate target
> >for those personnel charged with the DUTY of defending the border.
> >
> >What's the difference between "illegal immigrants" and "invading
> >army" other than numbers?
> 
> Nothing, if you're a paranoid schizophrenic.


OK...now...for the NON-paranoid schizophrenic...
What's the difference between a mob of "illegal immigrants" and
"invading army" other than the numbers?

> 
> --
> T. Max Devlin
>   *** The best way to convince another is
>           to state your case moderately and
>              accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 05:17:05 GMT

Said Perry Pip in alt.destroy.microsoft on 30 Mar 2001 14:34:45 GMT; 
>On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 21:55:52 GMT, 
>T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Said Perry Pip in alt.destroy.microsoft on 28 Mar 2001 17:46:09 GMT; 
>>>On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 04:04:32 GMT, 
>>>T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>Said Donovan Rebbechi in alt.destroy.microsoft on 27 Mar 2001 07:32:17 
>>   [...]
>>>>>The point is that I am very sceptical when I see an argument that I believe
>>>>>uses fairly sloppy reasoning siezed upon by a herd.
>>>>
>>>>And without a doubt, Perry's is a bit loose on the reasoning, at least
>>>>in comparison to mine, I think.  
>>>
>>>Wait a minute!! Where is my loose reasoning?? I never said I was
>>>proving anything. I was only responding to Donovan's claim that "MS
>>>prices too high" is "unsubstantiated nonsnese". I have provided at
>>>least enough evidence to show the idea is more than "unsubstantiated
>>>nonsnese", but I never said I proved it.
>>
>>Then why are you complaining because I said essentially the same thing?
>
>Then why are you telling me my reasoning is more "loose" than yours?

Because it was.

>>So to say that your argument was "loose on the reasoning", bearing in
>>mind your contention you weren't trying to "prove" anything, whether
>>Donovan has an exceedingly high expectation for "proofs" is rather
>>immaterial.  My point was that, regardless of whether it was sufficient
>>"proof" for Donovan, it was insufficient proof to be considered a
>>well-reasoned argument.
>
>If it wasn't meant to be proof then why must it be so to considered to
>be a well-reasoned arguement. All I meant to do was show reasonable
>doubt. Is it not a well-reasoned argument when a lawer only shows to
>the jury reasonable doubt as to your guilt instead of proving your
>innocence??

In a courtroom, providing reasonable doubt *is* proving your innocence.

>>>Donovan is working on his PhD in math...so he thinks the rest of us
>>>are morons becuase we don't apply abstract logical rigor to the real
>>>world. Ironically, in my profession, Aerospace Engineering, you learn
>>>that the rigors of the real world are actually much more complex than
>>>any form of mathematics. And when you get into social sciences it's
>>>phenomenally more complex than any branch of Engineering.
>>
>>I think "chaotic" is more completely correct, to be honest.  :-)
>
>Not quite. I was talking about complexity, which is distinct from choas. 
>Though the above is correct in regards chaos as well.

I believe it is only correct for chaos; there is nothing which is "more
complex than any form of mathematics".

-- 
T. Max Devlin
  *** The best way to convince another is
          to state your case moderately and
             accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:58:56 -0500

Roberto Alsina wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:21:36 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Fri, 30 Mar 2001
> >   [...]
> >>If someone attempts to enter your country, unanounced, without making
> >>proper contact with the appropriate authorities (customs officials,
> >>border patrol, air traffic control), then they are a legitimate target
> >>for those personnel charged with the DUTY of defending the border.
> 
> Ok, then you support the right of the Cuban government to shoot down
> Cessnas.
> 
> >>What's the difference between "illegal immigrants" and "invading
> >>army" other than numbers?
> >
> >Nothing, if you're a paranoid schizophrenic.
> 
> Indeed.

That's not what I asked

How about for those who are not paranoid schizophrenics.

What's the difference between "illegal immigrants" and "invading
army" other than numbers?

Be sure to account for the fact that when Germany invaded Norway,
the German soldiers entered the country without weapons or uniforms.

They simply met in warehouses across the country one night, broke
open cases of uniforms and weapons...and when the sun rose, they 
greeted the Norwegian populace with the news that they had just
be annexed by the German Army.




> 
> --
> Roberto Alsina


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Gene Rodgers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linus for a 386????
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 05:17:19 GMT

The word is LINUX, Linus is the piano player in Peanuts.

Try  http://www.linux.org/dist/english.html and choose the distribution
thay suits your needs and computer, such as Tiny Linux, Tomsrtbt, White
Dwarf, Monkey or Embedded Linux ( to name a few).

Gene

BoogerT wrote:
> 
> I have a 386 with a 41 meg harddrive and 8 megs of RAM.  What would be a good
> linux distro for this machine which would allow me to access the Internet,
> too?  If there is one, where would I get it and do documents come with it?
> Thanks in advance,

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