Linux-Advocacy Digest #217, Volume #33 Sat, 31 Mar 01 05:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure (GreyCloud)
Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism (GreyCloud)
Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism) (GreyCloud)
Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Java, the "Dot-Com" Language? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Arrrrgh! Hoist the Jolly Roger! (GreyCloud)
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: US Navy carrier to adopt Win2k infrastructure
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 01:07:27 -0800
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> > >
> > > Said Chad Myers in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:23:30
> > > >"Ed Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > >> Bob Hauck <bobh = haucks dot org> wrote:
> > > >> >On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:25:01 GMT, Chad Myers
> > > >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> Basically, nobody in the embedded space really wants WinCE or NT.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>You have no facts to back this statement up.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Apparently you have no facts to dispute it either. I design and build
> > > >> >embedded systems. You claim to be a network admin. Let the reader
> > > >> >decide who's making things up.
> > > >> >
> > > >> http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2683068,00.html
> > > >>
> > > >> eWEEK: Linux, which you have described as your greatest competitive
> > > >> threat, is also pushing into the embedded space. What exactly is the
> > > >> nature of the Linux threat to Microsoft and what is your strategy to
> > > >> deal with it?
> > > >>
> > > >> BALLMER: The Linux approach has led to an environment from which we can
> > > >> all learn, as it's a great way to do developer support. While Windows
> > > >> maintains its pre-eminent position in terms of developer support and
> > > >> interest, there is something about the way the Linux community supports
> > > >> itself that every platform provider should study if it wants to provide
> > > >> broad community. The Linux community support model has resonated with
> > > >> people.
> > > >> [...]
> > > >> This partly led to us reducing Windows CE prices quite dramatically over
> > > >> the past year ... but I think those prices are now pretty much as low
> > > >> as they're likely to go.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.electronicstimes.com/story/technology/OEG20010208S0006
> > > >>
> > > >> In his speech Ballmer said their may be more concessions on licensing
> > > >> terms from the company as it tries to build up market share in embedded.
> > > >>
> > > >> "We've dramatically dropped the price of Windows CE over the course of
> > > >> the last year. There may be other things we need to do to show greater
> > > >> flexibility on terms and conditions," said Ballmer.
> > > >>
> > > >> The only reason for "dramatically dropped the price" is because
> > > >> nobody was buying at the asking price.
> > > >>
> > > >> Last year it was "No further price reductions are anticipated"
> > > >> and then this. I am looking forward to next year.
> > > >
> > > >So... basically, Windows CE and PocketPC had significant share, of which
> > > >Linux was eroding, so MS had to respond.
> > >
> > > Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha! No, I don't see any indication that CE ever had any
> > > significant share. Just MS getting more and more desperate for someone
> > > to buy *any*. There's nothing at all whatsoever in that quote to
> > > indicate MS ever had any success at all in embedded systems, save
> > > perhaps some self-serving insinuations by Mr. Ballmer.
> > >
> > > >The original claim was that Windows had almost NO share in the
> > > >market at all, which seems to be untrue (wouldn't be the first time
> > > >from Bob).
> > >
> > > No, the claim, which you made, was: (to requote)
> > >
> > > [Bob:]
> > > >> >>> Basically, nobody in the embedded space really wants WinCE or NT.
> > > >> >>
> > > [Chad:]
> > > >> >>You have no facts to back this statement up.
> > >
> > > And not only is that still valid, unrefuted by your rather pitiful
> > > attempt at legerdemain, but proven even more so by the attention. Yes,
> > > we have facts to back up our claim that nobody wants it. No, you have
> > > no facts to back up your claim that a) we have no facts to back that up,
> > > and b) that MS had any significant success in embedded systems.
> > >
> > > You're Oh-for-two, Sparky. Wanna give up?
> > >
> > > >> Linux: The Unix defragmentation tool.
> > > >
> > > >But I thought Linux wasn't Unix?
> > >
> > > Guess not.
> >
> > All I've seen at the stores here are Palms running 3.x... no mention of
> > CE.
> > The HP jornada using CE has disappeared on the shelves. No interest.
>
> Just an update on the whole Palm vs. PocketPC:
>
> http://www.crn.com/Components/Search/Article.asp?ArticleID=24767
>
> The fact is, the Palm stuff is old. Black and white with poor Internet
> integration is out, Color fully-functional integrated Internet is in.
>
> -c
Well, I'm not into any of those devices... I looked at the Jornada in
the store with all its color and the LCD was weak compared to other
LCDs. I wasn't impressed with it.
Some will say that in business that color doesn't matter and some will
say its the only way to have it. yes, the palms have been around for a
while.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Unix/Linux Professionalism
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 01:13:16 -0800
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote
> > on Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:47:24 -0500
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >Chad Everett wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > >> I love Microsoft. It is really neat and since it came installed
> > >> on the computer I bought at CompUSA, the installation was really
> > >> easy. During
> > >
> > >Translation: If Mafia$oft wasn't pre-installed, he wouldn't have
> > >a preference.
> > >
> > >
> > >Thank you for that VERY telling admission.
> >
> > That's easily fixed. :-) The simplest method is to point Chad
> > at a website that sells preinstalled Linux computers.
> >
>
> Compaq will be selling pre-installed Linux this summer
>
> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
>
http://www.hp.com/workstations/products/linux/plclass/index.html
Here is another vendor selling pre-installed Linux.
> > [.sigsnip]
> >
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> > EAC code #191 53d:19h:18m actually running Linux.
> > This space for rent.
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
--
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 01:43:55 -0800
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Fred K Ollinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Notice how most of the communists hide out in academia...
>
I seem to remember a catholic saying "Give me your children to educate
and they will stay catholic". The NEA (National Education Association)
which supports the democratic party, seem to have the same goal. Makes
one wonder if the GOP will last or even be around in another 20 years.
Its only my assumptions of course.
> >
> > Aaron R. Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > : "." wrote:
> > : >
> > : > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > : > > "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> > : > >>
> > : > >> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 24 Mar 2001
> > : > >> >"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> > : > >> [...]
> > : > >> >> I have no political beliefs, Aaron, much as you may disagree with my
> > : > >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > : > >> >
> > : > >> >I think it's funny how left-wingers like to proclaim that you have
> > : > >> >have no political beliefs.
> > : > >>
> > : > >> I think its funny how, in comparison to you, just about anyone, even a
> > : > >> moderate like me, is a "left winger".
> > : >
> > : > > Advocation of Marxist principles is "moderate"?
> >
> > Actually in Spain, yes it is. That was how it was taught to me by someone
> > from Spain when she came to visit.
> >
> > : > You dont even really know what marxist principles ARE, do you chad.
> >
> > Does it matter what someone's priciples are? If so, why? If marxism is so
> > weak then it will _fail_. If it fails then you don't have to worry. if
>
> What about all the lives that are DESTROYED along the way....
>
> > it is strong, ie a good idea by social darwinists standards then it will
> > succeed just like it should due to natural selection. :)
> >
> > : MANDATORY Government-run pension plan for the private sector.
> >
> > This would be nice.
>
> At what expense? Why should I be forced to pay for the overhead
> of a government bureacracy when I can more effectively get a
> FAR better rate of return (AND help my fellow worker) by investing
> in the securities market?
>
> >
> > : Stealing from the productive to give to the unproductive.
> >
> > Like what? Factories where the 'owner' gets most of the money while the
> > productive who makes all the stuff that us bums uses gets peanuts and then
> > they are told that this is better than nothing.
>
> Nobody keeps you from only working for publicly-held corporations,
> where you are free to purchase as much stock (i.e. become a
> part-owner of the company with a pro-rated share of the profits)
> as you desire.
>
> If you choose to work only at privately-held companies, that's
> YOUR stupid choice.
>
> >
>
> > : Destroying true property ownership with a taxation scheme which makes
> > : a property title nothing more than a "license to rent from
> > : the government".
> >
> > What does this mean? I live in Philadelphia and there are 40,000
> > privately owned abandoned buildings. How would a scheme that turns property
> > over faster to those who produce be bad, such as how it's done in Stockholm
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> That is not a legitimate concern nor line of inquiry of government bureacrats.
>
> It is NOT the legitimate purpose of government officials (who are bribable,
> seduceable, etc.) to spend their lives choosing which citizens will be
> winners and which will be losers.
>
> If that's the kind of life you advocate, then I strongly suggest that
> you join the military...not the guard or reserve...ACTIVE DUTY..FULL TIME.
> ...and no bailing out before retirement, either, hypcrite.
>
> > where there is no ghetto?
>
> Property taxes burden the poor the heaviest.
>
> >
> > : > The fact is that you really dont know alot about alot of things, do you.
> >
> > I know very little, this is true.
> >
> > : Actually, I do. I've read some of Marx's books (from cover to cover),
> > : to find out EXACTLY what the idiotic system is based upon.
> >
> > Idiotic in what way?
> >
> > Fred
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
--
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Kulkis not Chad, Gates (was Re Unix/Linux Professionalism)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:34:24 -0500
GreyCloud wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Fred K Ollinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Notice how most of the communists hide out in academia...
> >
>
> I seem to remember a catholic saying "Give me your children to educate
> and they will stay catholic". The NEA (National Education Association)
> which supports the democratic party, seem to have the same goal. Makes
> one wonder if the GOP will last or even be around in another 20 years.
> Its only my assumptions of course.
>
Most people with a control-the-masses agenda try to maximize the
percentage of children put into their hands.
This is why the NEA is so afraid of non-government schools...
I mean..the opening of more schools should HELP the typical NEA
member, as this creates a demand for MORE teachers...
Yet...if they are private schools, beyond the reach of NEA's
political control...well, that's a cause for concern...regardless
if the resulting market forces actually raise teacher's salaries
due to increased demand.
> > >
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > : "." wrote:
> > > : >
> > > : > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > : > > "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> > > : > >>
> > > : > >> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 24 Mar 2001
> > > : > >> >"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> > > : > >> [...]
> > > : > >> >> I have no political beliefs, Aaron, much as you may disagree with my
> > > : > >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > : > >> >
> > > : > >> >I think it's funny how left-wingers like to proclaim that you have
> > > : > >> >have no political beliefs.
> > > : > >>
> > > : > >> I think its funny how, in comparison to you, just about anyone, even a
> > > : > >> moderate like me, is a "left winger".
> > > : >
> > > : > > Advocation of Marxist principles is "moderate"?
> > >
> > > Actually in Spain, yes it is. That was how it was taught to me by someone
> > > from Spain when she came to visit.
> > >
> > > : > You dont even really know what marxist principles ARE, do you chad.
> > >
> > > Does it matter what someone's priciples are? If so, why? If marxism is so
> > > weak then it will _fail_. If it fails then you don't have to worry. if
> >
> > What about all the lives that are DESTROYED along the way....
> >
> > > it is strong, ie a good idea by social darwinists standards then it will
> > > succeed just like it should due to natural selection. :)
> > >
> > > : MANDATORY Government-run pension plan for the private sector.
> > >
> > > This would be nice.
> >
> > At what expense? Why should I be forced to pay for the overhead
> > of a government bureacracy when I can more effectively get a
> > FAR better rate of return (AND help my fellow worker) by investing
> > in the securities market?
> >
> > >
> > > : Stealing from the productive to give to the unproductive.
> > >
> > > Like what? Factories where the 'owner' gets most of the money while the
> > > productive who makes all the stuff that us bums uses gets peanuts and then
> > > they are told that this is better than nothing.
> >
> > Nobody keeps you from only working for publicly-held corporations,
> > where you are free to purchase as much stock (i.e. become a
> > part-owner of the company with a pro-rated share of the profits)
> > as you desire.
> >
> > If you choose to work only at privately-held companies, that's
> > YOUR stupid choice.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > : Destroying true property ownership with a taxation scheme which makes
> > > : a property title nothing more than a "license to rent from
> > > : the government".
> > >
> > > What does this mean? I live in Philadelphia and there are 40,000
> > > privately owned abandoned buildings. How would a scheme that turns property
> > > over faster to those who produce be bad, such as how it's done in Stockholm
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > That is not a legitimate concern nor line of inquiry of government bureacrats.
> >
> > It is NOT the legitimate purpose of government officials (who are bribable,
> > seduceable, etc.) to spend their lives choosing which citizens will be
> > winners and which will be losers.
> >
> > If that's the kind of life you advocate, then I strongly suggest that
> > you join the military...not the guard or reserve...ACTIVE DUTY..FULL TIME.
> > ...and no bailing out before retirement, either, hypcrite.
> >
> > > where there is no ghetto?
> >
> > Property taxes burden the poor the heaviest.
> >
> > >
> > > : > The fact is that you really dont know alot about alot of things, do you.
> > >
> > > I know very little, this is true.
> > >
> > > : Actually, I do. I've read some of Marx's books (from cover to cover),
> > > : to find out EXACTLY what the idiotic system is based upon.
> > >
> > > Idiotic in what way?
> > >
> > > Fred
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: Java, the "Dot-Com" Language?
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:36:57 -0500
2 + 2 wrote:
>
> As we see the dot-com meltdown, how do we access all the money wasted on
> overpriced software projects that promise the world but deliver very little?
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You neglected to mention that the cost overruns are disproportionately on
Mafia$oft platforms.
> Sun is, no doubt, taking a big hit to its bottom line.
You're joking, right?
>
> Perhaps Dell, which has be same profit level as Sun BEFORE the downturn,
> will buy Sun for it's midline server hardware business, which it would
> promptly convert to Linux, an OS that delivers on its promises.
>
> Dell could become a dominent Linux server vendor.
>
> Dell would sell off the Sunsoft division that include Java, etc. Then that
> division could concentrate on becoming a software company in competition
> with Microsoft.
>
> That would be good for the industry. Java wouldn't be captive to the mission
> of selling overpriced Sun servers.
>
> McNealy could be farmed out to a separate spin off of the chip business. Of
> course, Scott could still be heard railing against the elements like Captain
> Ahab, except the White Whale would be Intel.
>
> We wouldn't want an industry without the Scott to badmouth the competition.
>
> 2 + 2
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Arrrrgh! Hoist the Jolly Roger!
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 02:00:24 -0800
Ed Allen wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Said Dave Martel in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:51:25
> >>On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:22:14 GMT, T. Max Devlin
> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I haven't any hard
> >>>facts on the subject, which is why I was hoping you'd do some research.
> >>
> >>FWIW there's a web page out there on the whole thing. Afraid I no
> >>longer have the URL, though.
> >
> >Boy, we're a vigilante couple of activists, aren't we? :-D
> >
>
> Starting out with the Australian vs. Toshiba story which began
> the whole thing.
>
> <TITLE>Windows Refund Day</TITLE>
> <H1>Windows Refund Day</H1>
>
> <BODY>
> <DL><p>
> <DT><A
>HREF="http://slashdot.org/articles/99/01/18/1539214.shtml">Slashdot:Australian Linux
>user gets Windows Refund</A>
> <DT><A
>HREF="http://abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/DailyNews/refunds990208.html">ABCNEWS.com :
>Grassroots Groups Declare Windows Refund Day</A>
> <DT><A HREF="http://apt.computerwire.com/msoft/mt3-990122.html">WINDOWS
>REFUND DAY: MICROSOFT RESPONDS</A>
> <DT><A
>HREF="http://barley.electriclichen.com/people/jgleason/newyorkrefund/nytimes.html">Self-Proclaimed
> Computer Geeks Hold 'Windows Refund Day'</A>
> <DT><A HREF="http://electriclichen.com/refund/photos/">02/15/1999 SF Bay
>Area Pics</A>
> <DT><A HREF="http://hugin.imat.com/refund/coverage.html">Press Coverage for
>Windows Refund Day</A>
> <DT><A HREF="http://linuxmafia.com/refund/">Microsoft Windows Refund for the
>Bay Area</A>
> <DT><A HREF="http://marc.merlins.org/linux/refundday/">Windows Refund Day</A>
> <DT><A HREF="http://marc.merlins.org/linux/refundday/videos/">Windows Refund
>Day Videos</A>
> <DT><A
>HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_279000/279926.stm">BBC News |
>Sci/Tech | Windows refund day</A>
> <DT><A HREF="http://www.deirdre.org/rebellion.html">Windows Refund Day
>Events (Orange County)</A>
> <DT><A
>HREF="http://www.idg.co.nz/webhome.nsf/ArchiveDate/BC37B3A6001224BACC25684C000E1F6A!OpenDocument">IDGNet
> New Zealand - Windows Refund Day a fizzer but raises awareness</A>
> <DT><A
>HREF="http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html">Toshiba/Microsoft Saga</A>
> </DL><p>
> </BODY>
> --
> GPL says
> "What's mine is ours,
> If you make *OUR* stuff better the result is still ours."
Thanks Ed. I knew I saw it somewhere. I don't have much luck sometimes
trying to search the web.
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