Linux-Advocacy Digest #279, Volume #33 Mon, 2 Apr 01 11:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: My take on GPLed code as free software (was: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and
lies about free software) (Jay Maynard)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Communism (The Spelling Troll)
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: I regretfully conclude that Linux is a piece of CRAP. ("Taavi Hein")
Re: Darwinian Evolution and open software (Chad Everett)
Re: Communism (Pale Goth Lad)
Re: Java, the "Dot-Com" Language? (Chad Everett)
Re: Windows "speed" (Chad Everett)
IE again: MS simply =?ISO-8859-1?Q?doesn=B4t?= get it right (Peter
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: My take on GPLed code as free software (was: Richard Stallman (Austin Ziegler)
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Communism
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Re: Communism confession ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Maynard)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: My take on GPLed code as free software (was: Richard Stallman what a
tosser, and lies about free software)
Date: 2 Apr 2001 12:51:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2 Apr 2001 06:44:22 GMT, Rob S. Wolfram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It's not only the GPL that prevents this, it's the GPL *in combination
>with* the unwillingness of the programmer to GPL the result that really
>prevents this.
In Les's example, the problem was not that he was unwilling to GPV the
resulting code...it was that he was *unable* to do so, because he was not
the author of the component with a licenst that the GPV did not get along
with. He did not have the option, whether or not he wished to do so.
>The GPL was carefully crafted to prevent "embrace and extend" by less
>honest parties, based on GPLed code.
...and replaced it with its own legal "embrace and extend", in the license.
I fail to understand why those who howl abot others' embrace and extend
tactics refuse to recognize their own.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:00:06 -0400
Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
>
> Erb,
>
> Following your logic the fact that many Americans are likely to help others
> and be humain, we are Humanitarian Republic?
> USA is a Constitutional Republic with democratic method of selecting our
> governing bodies.
> If you like Democratic Republics better, there is a choice for you:
> 1. German Democratic Republic (East Germany, oh, crap, it's dead now, sorry,
> Erb...)
> 2. Korean People's Democratic Republic (North Korea). This Democratioc
> Republic is yet alive, but you should think twice before you move there -
> people are starving and work hard for the daily rice portion. Something
> telling me that you don't particulary like to work hard, but like to eat
> well. Also, North Koreans will probably never believe you and think that you
> are CIA. You see, they would never be able to understand (and I agree) that
> anyone in his/her right mind would move from here to there. Certainly you
> can't hope that you will withstand their methods of interrogation and most
> probably you will confess and will be shot as an American spy. There will be
> some justice in it, but we do not wish that to happen, so, please, stay with
> us, poison our kids minds and think that you are very deep, independant
> thinker. We'll pay for that.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alexander Chaihorsky
Privetik Alex.
Ochen xorosho.
> Reno, NV
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:01:19 -0400
From: The Spelling Troll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Hello there, I am The Spelling Troll.
Are you as sick as I am of bad spelling in these newsgroups? Good, I
thought so!
As a free service, I will select random posts on this group, and will
correct the spelling. As a bonus, I will correct poor grammar from
time to time as well.
I will only accept correct English spelling, no American
bastardisations of our beautiful language will be permitted.
Let's take a look at a recent post from Ms Aaron R. Kulkis of Buffalo Poo,
Indiana. Ms Kulkis enjoys long walks on the beach, romantic dinners for two,
and giving blow-jobs to sailors.
On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:52:21 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Could be because that theiving Caucescou and equallly dispicable bitch
Could be because that THIEVING CEAUSESCU and EQUALLY DESPICABLE bitch
Summary: Ms Kulkis should spend more time revising her spelling and less time
revising history.
HTH
The Spelling Troll
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:39:48 -0400
The Spelling Troll wrote:
>
> Hello there, I am The Spelling Troll.
> Are you as sick as I am of bad spelling in these newsgroups? Good, I
> thought so!
> As a free service, I will select random posts on this group, and will
> correct the spelling. As a bonus, I will correct poor grammar from
> time to time as well.
> I will only accept correct English spelling, no American
> bastardisations of our beautiful language will be permitted.
>
> Let's take a look at a recent post from Ms Aaron R. Kulkis of Buffalo Poo,
> Indiana. Ms Kulkis enjoys long walks on the beach, romantic dinners for two,
> and giving blow-jobs to sailors.
>
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:52:21 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Could be because that theiving Caucescou and equallly dispicable bitch
> Could be because that THIEVING CEAUSESCU and EQUALLY DESPICABLE bitch
I'm partaking in a conversation, not publishing a set of archival documents.
>
> Summary: Ms Kulkis should spend more time revising her spelling and less time
> revising history.
Are you saying that the Ceausescus were not executed on live TV in Romania?
Haven't seen the video tapes, have you.
> HTH
> The Spelling Troll
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Taavi Hein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I regretfully conclude that Linux is a piece of CRAP.
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:10:31 +0300
"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: Just as a follow up, I have used Konqueror, and I give it a 9/10, the only
: let down is in the area of Javascript and Javasupport. I downloaded the
: javaplugin JRE and directed Kon*, however, it failed to load even the
: javasoft applet. Apart from that, it is very stable. I haven't even had
a
: seg-fault yet, which is a good sign.
Can someone give me a web address for Konqueror?
: Giuliano Colla wrote:
:
: > Unfortunately no. The only advantage is that when it crashes it doesn't
: > take down everything else (merit of Linux, not of Netscape), so you just
: > kill its remnants, and restart it.
: > But under Linux you have a number of alternative choices, from Lynx
: > (text only but incredibly fast), to Opera (available also for Windows)
: > to Konqueror which is becoming a real refreshing new entry in the
: > browser field.
also there's another text browser named Links, which has the advantage, that
it can display frames and tables -- which do appear frustratingly often
these days, they really expect us all to use Netscape or IE, don't they :(
--
Taavi Hein - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user #209546
Registered Linux machine #97395
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: Darwinian Evolution and open software
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2 Apr 2001 07:39:03 -0600
You folks who are rambling on and on and reaching for comparisons between
biological evolution and open source software development are forgetting
that you CANNOT make the comparison. Darwinian evolution is based on
RANDOM mutations: NO intelligent design whatsoever. Open source software
engineering is ENGINEERING: intelligent design, no random mutations, only
a design guided process.
You might as well try to compare the tossing of dice or the picking of
lottery numbers to open source software engineering....it just don't
make any sense.
On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 00:37:40 +1200, Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>From what I understand of Evolution, take the dog for example which walks on
>all fours, if you look at how it walks, it walks on the balls of its feet, this
>has actually evolved over the millions of years, as this allows the dog to run
>faster, hence, the change orginated from the need to adapt to new conditions.
>Software can be viewed in the same light, in that, Linux for example, started
>off as a desktop OS, and has grandually adapted to new hardware configurations
>with the help of programming. IE, the adaption processor is put in place to
>ensure the survival of the species, as with Linux which, if it wants to enter
>the high end market, must adapt to the higher hardware configurations that is
>used in the enterprise market, and must continue to change if it wishes to
>survive.
>
>Matthew Gardiner
>
>Sam Heads wrote:
>
>> Dear group,
>>
>> I am responding to a post to sci.bio.evolution by Wilbert Kruithof asking
>> for an evolutionary biologist's opinion on your recent discussions regarding
>> your software and Darwinism. Well, first, let me introduce myself - I am a
>> Palaeobiologist from the UK with particular research interests in Palaeozoic
>> marine/aquatic arthropods and the Cambrian Radiation. I also have an
>> interest in software, but I'm afraid my knowledge of the subject is limited.
>>
>> Wilbert Kruithof requested the presence of an expert in Evolution in this
>> newsgroup to comment on aspects of your software and its relation to
>> Darwinism. I was intrigued by the idea, and just thought I'd pop in to say
>> hello, offer my biological expertise about a bit, and hopefully learn
>> something about software.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> --
>> Sam Heads
>> Palaeobiologist
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: Pale Goth Lad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 23:45:57 +1000
On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:39:48 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm partaking in a conversation, not publishing a set of archival documents.
You're also spending an inordinate amount of time commenting on the
grammar and spelling of others in order to belittle them. I'd say
that you got what you deserved, little man.
Buffalo Poo, Indiana, hmmm? Somehow I'm not surprised that you hail
from somewhere like that.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy
Subject: Re: Java, the "Dot-Com" Language?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2 Apr 2001 07:42:57 -0600
On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 23:31:30 +1100, Shane Phelps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>gbp wrote:
>>
>> >Really? Which promises does Linux deliver on that Solaris on Sun
>> >hardware doesn't?
>> >
>>
>> Its very good and its cheaper!!
>>
>> There is NO license fee. This may not be a big deal for your
>> organization but for many thats a great advantage.
>>
>> Lets make up an example. Say your a retail chain and you need a
>> custom point-of-sale program. If you have about 1000 stores and 3
>> CPUs at each store thats 3000 machines that need licenses. Now if
>> you save $100 a box thats $ 300,000!! Thats enough to hire a
>> systems admin for 5 years.
>
>A little out-of-date , aren't we?
>
>Sun stopped charging Solaris licence fees on the smaller systems
>(< 8 CPUs) last year, so that one's old hat.
>The Netra X1 is a nice 1U system which costs about the same as a
>mid-range
>PC ($1K official price), but is IDE based. The Netra T1 is a very
>good rack-mount SCSI-based system, but probably costs more than the
>equivalent Dell. It *does* fit in a standard 19" comms rack, though.
>
>Linux *is* very good; so is Solaris. Linux isn't cheaper any more.
>Solaris also has the advantage of better scalability on bigger boxes,
>though the 2.4 kernel may have caught up.
>
IBM head honcho when discussing IBM's big investment in Linux recently
stated that even the 2.4.x kernel has trouble scaling well to greater
than 4 CPUs. I'm a linux advocate and was disappointed to hear this.
The great thing about Linux though, is that this is likely to change
a lot faster than any closed source based OS could hope to do.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To:
Subject: Re: Windows "speed"
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2 Apr 2001 07:50:33 -0600
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> When you guys bash Windows, usually I assume that you are referring
> to Win9x, which almost always earns its flames. However, to lump
> NT/2K in with this is purely ignorant.
>
I run Windows 2K Pro and SuSE 7.1 on the same network and have equal
access to both. I bash Windows all the time and much prefer the
SuSE 7.1 system, both for its processing and desktop. Maybe I should
just turn the Win 2K boxes into Linux machines and run Win2K on linux
using vmware....
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IE again: MS simply =?ISO-8859-1?Q?doesn=B4t?= get it right
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:04:01 +0200
Again there´s a bug in IE, this time a *real* bad one
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-020.asp
This vulnerability could enable an attacker to potentially
run a program of her choice on the machine of another user.
Such a program would be capable of taking any action that
the user himself could take on his machine, including adding,
changing or deleting data, communicating with web sites, or
reformatting the hard drive.
As a general rule, it is probably worth questioning
the trustworthiness of any e-mail that automatically
starts a file download. The best action is to simply
click the Cancel button in the dialogue.
Chaddy boy, Jon, Conrad
now start to think hard and fast to come up with something
That will naturally be again something of the kind: "Not really a problem"
Peter
--
The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
From: Austin Ziegler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My take on GPLed code as free software (was: Richard Stallman
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:14:55 -0400
On 2 Apr 2001, Rob S. Wolfram wrote:
> Austin Ziegler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 30 Mar 2001, Rob S. Wolfram wrote:
>> > Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> If something can't be distributed to you, how do you manage to use it?
>> > You can't. Does that make distributing and using the same thing? Does
>> > that mean that GPLed software cannot be distributed at all?
>> In the case of GPLed software, extension and distribution are a form of
>> use. Others have contested this -- but it's a reality, not a
>> supposition.
> Extension yes, distribution, no. Distribution is part of the process of
> selling or sharing, not using. Do you have anything to convince me of
> the opposite?
<<The GPL itself implies this by restricting distribution. Extension,
by the way, is often worthless if one can't distribute the results of
said extension.>>
-f
--
austin ziegler * Ni bhionn an rath ach mar a mbionn an smacht
Toronto.ON.ca * (There is no Luck without Discipline)
=================* I speak for myself alone
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,uk.misc,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:25:09 -0400
Pale Goth Lad wrote:
>
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:39:48 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I'm partaking in a conversation, not publishing a set of archival documents.
> You're also spending an inordinate amount of time commenting on the
> grammar and spelling of others in order to belittle them. I'd say
No, I'm not you moron. that's "the spelling troll", not me.
> that you got what you deserved, little man.
> Buffalo Poo, Indiana, hmmm? Somehow I'm not surprised that you hail
> from somewhere like that.
Check your attributions, dipshit.
No wonder you're a goth...you can't make it in the normal world.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:29:23 GMT
>>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
>>
Aaron> cHip wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Being a guy who has researched this a lot I'd like to comment on a few
>> >> things.
>> >>
>> >> First of all, anyone who mentions Russian Communism, Chinese Communism,
>> >> North Korean Communism, etc. as communism---sorry but you're wrong.
>> >> Those are NOT communism, they are totalitarian governments. Basically
>> >> they're dictaror governments (layman term, really authoritarian). Anyone
>> >> who critisizes communism for anything there just doesn't get it.
>> >>
>>
Aaron> Ah yes, the usual "that isn't *real* communism" lie.
>>
Aaron> So...tell us, Mr Wise guy...why are there not *ANY* "real communist"
Aaron> countries in existance....and why is every country which calls itself
Aaron> Communist also a police state?
>>
Aaron> Accuracy counts, so be precise.
>>
>> Communism is a utopian idea which is completely incompatible with
>> human nature. Hence any attempt to implement it will end in either
>> capitulation or tyranny. Generally the latter, as anyone driven to
>> take power is not likely to give it up.
Aaron> Very good, but that's very general and vague.
Aaron> I said be precise.
Aaron> You know...name some Communist-style government policies that
Aaron> you agree with.
Can't think of any in the real world.
--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
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Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:38:20 GMT
>>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
Aaron> Mathew wrote:
>>
>> For a person who constantly calls people"little dictators"
>> and "fascists" , Aaron certainky takes the cake for personifying
>> his own words.
>>
>> A product of fascist military indoctrination ,no doubt.
Aaron> So, protecting your constitutional rights is fascist now.
You have repeatedly threatened to kill people for their political
beliefs. That is not protecting their Constitutional Rights.
You are a totalitarian wannabe.
--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism confession
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:39:46 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
>
> Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> >>
> Aaron> cHip wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Being a guy who has researched this a lot I'd like to comment on a few
> >> >> things.
> >> >>
> >> >> First of all, anyone who mentions Russian Communism, Chinese Communism,
> >> >> North Korean Communism, etc. as communism---sorry but you're wrong.
> >> >> Those are NOT communism, they are totalitarian governments. Basically
> >> >> they're dictaror governments (layman term, really authoritarian). Anyone
> >> >> who critisizes communism for anything there just doesn't get it.
> >> >>
> >>
> Aaron> Ah yes, the usual "that isn't *real* communism" lie.
> >>
> Aaron> So...tell us, Mr Wise guy...why are there not *ANY* "real communist"
> Aaron> countries in existance....and why is every country which calls itself
> Aaron> Communist also a police state?
> >>
> Aaron> Accuracy counts, so be precise.
> >>
> >> Communism is a utopian idea which is completely incompatible with
> >> human nature. Hence any attempt to implement it will end in either
> >> capitulation or tyranny. Generally the latter, as anyone driven to
> >> take power is not likely to give it up.
>
> Aaron> Very good, but that's very general and vague.
>
> Aaron> I said be precise.
>
> Aaron> You know...name some Communist-style government policies that
> Aaron> you agree with.
>
> Can't think of any in the real world.
then you're a Communist.
Thank you for admitting that you are an enemy of the US Constitution.
This fact will be recorded for posterity.
Heheheheheheh
>
> --
> Andrew Hall
> (Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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