Linux-Advocacy Digest #363, Volume #33 Wed, 4 Apr 01 19:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Hey, JS PL was Re: Microsoft abandoning USB? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Raoul
Duke***)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Raoul
Duke***)
Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised (Trevor Zion Bauknight)
Re: Hey, JS PL was Re: Microsoft abandoning USB? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised ("Matthew Gardiner")
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Hey, JS PL was Re: Microsoft abandoning USB?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 22:57:45 GMT
Said JS PL in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:50:06 -0400;
>"Alan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:28:32 -0400, "JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Well, your dimness, It happened when I installed Windows SE. not IE5, as
>I
>> >have said numerous times in the past. I don't even think IE5 beta was out
>> >when the Viper V550 hit the market.
>> >The problem was most apparent in IE. And I have never mentioned "IE5"
>> >dumbass. So "what changed" was the Windows OS.
>> >Ohh...and....
>> >If you'd like to use the flawed logic that it's Windows SE (a newly
>released
>> >OS at the time) that is broken when it won't run the Viper V550 video
>card
>> >without sporadic screen freezes, then you can go ahead and use that
>> >reasoning on Linux. Because at the same time in history I was also trying
>to
>> >get Caldera Open Linux installed and it wouldn't run the video card at
>all!
>> >BTW, Linux wouldn't run my modem either, or my sound card come to think
>of
>> >it.
>> >
>> Number 1, Win 98 SE that you are referring to was not a new OS. It was
>> a bug fix/feature pack to Win 98. The Viper 550 worked great in
>> Win98, but didn't in SE? What changed?
>
>Call it what you like.
No answer to the question?
>> Number 2, why are you trying to change the subject to Linux when MS is
>> the one who changed their software causing all this stuff to break.
>> All your post says is that Linux didn't support it.
>
>Causing "all" what stuff to break? This seems to be more of a problem to
>everyone else here than it was for me. The screen froze a few times, plus I
>couldn't get the card to run under Linux. Didn't want to wait six months for
>some hack to write a half assed driver for it in Linux so I just switched
>cards. Two problems fixed in under ten minutes.
What about the "missing headers" problem you had? That was the problem
I recall you complaining about. Never did figure out what precisely it
meant, but you indicated that you could not view the subject lines of
messages in newsgroups. That was the bug which showed up with IE5
(whether that meant 'in' or 'in conjunction with', I can't say) which
you said was "fixed" by replacing the video card. (Which, needless to
say, is when I started pointing out this ridiculous example of
brain-dead Windroid thinking, which is why I remember it so clearly.)
>> Number 3, why didn't you just download the patch from the Diamond
>> Mulitmedia site?
>
>That doesn't cure the Linux problem does it?
There was no Linux problem.
>> Number 5, I had a similar problem when I downloaded IE5 as part of
>> some other software I bought. Since I couldn't uninstall the offending
>> software, I looked for updates to the video card. Sure enough, I found
>> them and fixed the problem (and I havent fixed a major computer
>> problem since the late 1980s).
>
>What product did you "buy" that adds IE5 to their DOWNLOAD?
Any product which "requires" IE5, of which there are many since
Microsoft used all the leverage at their disposal to force ISVs into
becoming dependent on IE5 by using its "features" in their products.
>I've never
>seen any company tack on a 60 meg file that's available for free elsewhere
>anyway!
Smells like pitiful quibbling, to me. Does any of this matter, Ayende?
Don't bother with "it shows he...", because it doesn't show squat except
that you are quibbling.
[...]
>> Anyone can swap cards, a true professional identifies the problem and
>> fixes it.
>
>That's what I did. And I did it in ten minutes. And it allowed me to dual
>boot into Linux. Killed two birds with one stone! God damn I'm awesome!
No, you're the proud victim of a predatory monopoly, you putz.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: Raoul Duke*** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 18:56:36 -0400
On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 22:54:44 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Gunner ©" wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:01:02 -0800, "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >> I wonder how Scott Erb would feel if he gets his wish of an all-powerful
>> >> government, and along the way, he gets carted off to some gulag....
>> >
>> >It would be poetic justice.
>> >It is not that Erb is ignorant, he is very dishonest. And to think he is
>> >teaching this to his students.
>>
>> HE"S a TEACHER? Lord love a duck. No wonder the SAT scores are being
>> lowered. No wonder the educational system in this country is floundering
>> and turning out kids who cannot read, nor think, nor function.
>>
>> Scott would be a poster child for home schooling.
>>
>
>Home-school your kid...or else he might turn out to be like Scott Erb.
Home school your kid. He will make a great shoe shine boy in a
Chinese suburb.
************
Raoul Duke
"Will all who are sick and tired of that fist fucker Raoul Duke post a
resounding FUCK YOU RAOUL!! Then promptly put this
little prick in your kill file. Please.
Jack " -- alt.military.retired
>
>
>> Gunner
>>
>> --
>> "Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to
>> clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals are
>> so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry
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From: Raoul Duke*** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 18:57:50 -0400
On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 09:15:05 -0400, "Scott D. Erb"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
>>
>> I wonder how Scott Erb would feel if he gets his wish of an all-powerful
>> government, and along the way, he gets carted off to some gulag....
>
>Given that I oppose powerful government and in fact my biggest criticism of the
>Left is that it too often ignores the danger of centralized power, your question
>is based on a false premise. Since I've made my aversion to powerful government
>clear earlier in this thread, I have to assume that you are also being dishonest
>in making the statement you make.
The Republicans are trying to turn the U.S. into a benevolent
dictatorship. Looks like we'll be Chinese Communist.
************
Raoul Duke
"Will all who are sick and tired of that fist fucker Raoul Duke post a
resounding FUCK YOU RAOUL!! Then promptly put this
little prick in your kill file. Please.
Jack " -- alt.military.retired
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From: Trevor Zion Bauknight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 22:43:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "JS PL" <jspl@jsplom>
wrote:
> > Oh... ...my... ...god.
> >
> > How arrogant.
> >
> > Read it:
>
> Big deal. They're offering a free service. You have the choice of agreeing
> to the terms, or not. It's nice to see the anti-MS crowd still teeters on
> the edge of a major cry-in at the slightest urging from their peers.
You have that choice *unless you use Windows XP* which uses it by
default and may require it.
Trev
--
"I think Trevor is an idot. Just the kind of robot President CLITton likes.
Supid people!" - Husker Kev
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Hey, JS PL was Re: Microsoft abandoning USB?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 22:59:54 GMT
Said JS PL in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:38:36 -0400;
>"Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:9afjn4$hud$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> "JS PL" <jspl@jsplom> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> > What product did you "buy" that adds IE5 to their DOWNLOAD???? I've
>never
>> > seen any company tack on a 60 meg file that's available for free
>elsewhere
>> > anyway!! What company is adding an un-necessary 60mb or so file to their
>> > product download? Hmmm....That's very interesting. You_did_"buy"_it,
>> didn't
>> > you??
>>
>> Sorry to burst your bubble, but I just happened to go to this page:
>> http://www.aonix.com/Products/CSDS/oa.win.free2.html
>> a.. Full Special Edition (77 MB)
>> Includes all Core and Help files plus Internet Explorer and Sun Java
>> Development Kit (JDK).
>
>And what about this??
>"Please note that the Permissions/Copyright Group will not grant special
>permission rights to redistribute Microsoft Internet Explorer (and/or any
>components thereof)."
>at:
>http://www.microsoft.com/permission/copyrgt/cop-soft.htm#IE
>
>dang, foiled again?
And this somehow prevents Microsoft from providing licenses under
different terms to an ISV they wish to use, to encourage the use of IE?
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:05:19 +1200
Oh, so the Rep's were the only ones honest about their dealings? Here is a
better idea, have these parties publicly funded according to their share of
the votes (like how NZ do it), and not allows corps and influencial people
to bribe, sorry, "donate" to parties. The system in New Zealand is that you
come towards a election funding board, and demonstrated that you have a
certain number of people supporting you, hence, Labour and National, who are
the main two parties get more money for campaigning than say, Alliance or
the Greens that only recieved around 15% and 7% respetively, of the votes at
the last elections.
Matthew Gardiner
"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:29:09 +1200, Matthew Gardiner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hello? How come their (Republicans) whole campaign centred around
ensuring
> >Microsoft got off with a slap on the wrist? Also, what about the
incredibly
> >generous bribe, sorry, "Donation" to ensure that "the DOJ doesn't ruin
the
> >tech sector", aka, split Microsoft up.
> >
> >Matthew Gardiner
>
> You're confused. Microsoft bribes both sides equally.
>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 19:03:25 -0400
billh wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>
> > Roberto truly believes that shit....
>
> Then maybe you've finally found someone that will believe your bullshit
> lies. Tread carefully Roberto has the potential to become your only friend
> here.
So says the man who cliims that the Germans, Japanes, North Koreans,
Chinese, Viet Cong, and North Vietnamese *NEVER* shot at American
medics
And also claims to be an army officer, but also claims that he
never wears a uniform.
Yeah, uh-huh.
Now I know why you reveal so little about yourself.
You realize full well how difficult it is for you to keep track
of your lies.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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