Linux-Advocacy Digest #395, Volume #33 Thu, 5 Apr 01 15:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000? (Bill Gunshannon)
Re: Baseball (Chad Everett)
Re: Entry-level *ix positions?? (Chad Everett)
Re: Microsoft Refunds?? (Rex Ballard)
Re: XP = eXPerimental ("2 + 2")
Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ] (Richard E.
Silverman)
Re: Too expensive, too invasive (667 Neighbor of the Beast)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000? (Lex Spoon)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Gunshannon)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000?
Date: 5 Apr 2001 17:46:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Croughton) writes:
|>
|> The second, which asserts an absolute, can't be known absolutely unless
|> it's a tautology ("I define "junk mail" to include anything in HTML,
|> therefore all HTML mail is junk"). The trouble with absolutes is that
|> they cause trouble when they're wrong, perhaps he's missing some
|> important things buried in the junk and will never know it...
If he will never know, it must not be all that important. My mail
filters discard anything coming from AOL. I haven't missed a single
message yet. (I seriously doubt there have been many offers to give
me large checks coming from that service!!)
This is a judegment call and not an absolute. I also delete any HTML
mail immediately, without even trying to read it. And being as I don't
use a web browser as a mail client, there really isn't much else I can
do with it.
|> Well, if he deletes all HTML mail unread then he never will receive
|> anything important in HTML mail, so it will be self-fulfilling...
And if it hasn't adversely affected his life up to this point, it was
most likely also correct.
bill
--
Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton |
Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Baseball
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 5 Apr 2001 12:42:27 -0500
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:44:45 -0600, Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>aaron wrote:
>> Anonymous wrote:
>> >
>> > "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Maybe Microsoft will go the full monty and deliver a stable OS for once?
>> >
>> > why don't you do something to make unix as easy to use as windows while
>> > retaining the former's stability and put microsoft out of business?
>>
>> It's been so for well over a DECADE, jackie.
>
>so you're saying that in 1991 there was a unix system as easy to use as
>windows is today?
>riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
No, he said that in 1991 there was a unix that was as easy to use as
Windows was in 1991.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: Entry-level *ix positions??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 5 Apr 2001 12:44:59 -0500
On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 12:37:41 -0500, WesTralia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>>
>> "Bryant Charleston, MCSE" wrote:
>> >
>> > What kinds of position are there for folks wanting to get into *ix network
>> > administration? Are they the same as w/the Windows OSes (LAN or desktop
>> > support, PC tech, helpdesk, etc.) ???
>> >
>> > Now that I have an MCSE (NT4), I'm moving in the Linux (RH7) direction and
>> > I'm wondering how getting started in the *ix field compares to it's Windows
>> > counterpart (w/respect to networking). Any comments would be appreciated.
>> > Thanks!
>>
>> Well, first, you have to actually understand how Unix works.
>>
>> I suggest getting yourself a couple of machines destined for the
>> trash heap, and install some version of Linux, or Solaris (downloadable
>> from http://www.sun.com/, network them together, and experiment.
>>
>
>And once you get your UNIX network all setup be sure to change the
>X-Mailer header string in your news reader. This will give you firewall
>like security if you ever surf the net from your new network. Also,
>once you get your UNIX sys admin job, remember to never use the web
>browser on the local machine at work. Always use a modem to dial-up
>your (remote) home machine and then do a remote login. Once you
>are logged in you can pull up your web browser across the slow modem
>connection from the remote machine to your local machine at work.
>The reason you wnat to do this is for security! Remember that your
>news reader at home has the X-Mailer string changed so as to provide
>you with security when surfing the net.
>
>Are you getting any of this?
>
ROTFLMAO!
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From: Rex Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Refunds??
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:57:19 GMT
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Microsoft is in an interesting Catch-22 on this one.
One court has ruled that end-users who purchase Windows through OEMs
do
not qualify as Microsoft customers as a class action suit. This means
that in that jurisdiction, the OEMs could become codefendents in the
lawsuit. The OEMs already pay Microsoft for far more licenses than
they use (to get "cliff-tiered" discounts). The OEMs can't get
refunds
either. If they drop below their minimum commitment threshold, the
total cash oblication actually INCREASES.
On the other hand, this means that many OEMs won't be in any big hurry
to sell XP, and will be quite happy to sell Win4Lin compatible
operating
systems (Win95, Win98, WinME).
Just as an aside. Many OEMs do support Linux users. You can purchase
a
"bare bones" machine which has everything but the hard drives. You
then
purchase a separately packaged expansion drive (which doesn't have
Linux
on it), and optionally pay a modest installation charge.
The price is only about $200 less than the price of a Windows machine,
and
you have to install your on Linux distribution. Most of these systems
have been certified to be Linux compatible.
GreyCloud wrote:
>
> http://www.linuxmall.com/refund/
>
> This site seems to have a lot of interesting web sites in reference to
> Microsoft refunds. Still looking into the others. Zork.net doesn't
> seem to exist from this end.
--
Rex Ballard
It Architect
http://www.open4success.com
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From: "2 + 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: XP = eXPerimental
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:58:31 -0400
Nik Simpson wrote in message ...
>
>"2 + 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:9ago89$kpn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> Nik Simpson wrote in message ...
>> >
>> >"J.T. Wenting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >>
>> >> "2 + 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >> news:9ad0qd$o6q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> > XP = eXPerimental
>> >> >
>> >> thought it meant ExPert? Experimental systems are of course usually
>> >handled
>> >> by experts, which might be the origin of people thinking XP means
>> >> experimental...
>> >>
>> >> > It integrates the NT kernal.
>> >> >
>> >> Nope, the Win2K kernel, which is a complete rewrite.
>> >>
>> >> > But it also integrates a part of .NET.
>> >> >
>> >> Yah, why else create a technology if you're not going to use it?
>> >>
>> >> > At least in the hardware abstraction layer, they are starting with a
>> JIT
>> >> > compiler, instead of a pure emulated VM.
>> >> >
>> >> Not JIT, of course. JIT is platform dependent in that it works only
for
>> >Java
>> >> applications, where .NET will be language independent...
>> >
>> >And even if such technology were included it would not be in the HAL, a
>> >claim that it is in the HAL indicates either the person doesn't know
what
>> >they are talking about or is deliberately trolling, or both.
>>
>My apologies, obviously somebody at MS is overloading the term Hardware
>Abstraction Layer. The NT/W2K HAL that provides the direct I/F between the
>low level OS routines and the hardware is definitely not what they are
>talking about.
This web middleware "OS" of a framework and an execution engine utilizes the
underlying traditional OS to handle the functioning of the "hardware"
aspects such as the functioning of the hard disk, the peripherals and their
communication "bus," etc.
It's interesting that the software "bus" which used to be called an Object
Request Broker (ORB), and now seems to be called a "platform," is evolving
with its related infrastructure as a specialized sector for software.
Why have this software platform do all the functionality related to the
hardware which has to be tightly integrated with the CPU and its various
chipsets on the motherboard?
The traditional HAL that you mention, of course, allows the OS to run on any
supported chip. But the emergence of the network OS with the web has meant
that any OS has both client and server tiers to consider.
The divergence of these tiers means that a platform has to supply
functionality by being hosted on both tiers.
Maybe a new term is needed. Got any suggestions? It has to be an abstraction
layer that abstracts out the hardware and a minimal concept of the OS, since
the software platform is taken away much of its functionality.
2 + 2
>
>--
>Nik Simpson
>
>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.security.ssh
Subject: Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard E. Silverman)
Date: 05 Apr 2001 14:02:53 -0400
>>>>> "Chad" == Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Chad> For some reason that eludes me (and apparently the ssh.com
Chad> people as well) the OpenSSH people continue to support a
Chad> "flawed" protocol which they know has issues when a newer,
Chad> better, and free version exists.
Multiple people pointed out reasons for this. As a matter of present
fact, there are SSH-1 implementations in place, both on regular servers
and embedded inside packaged products that may not change for some time to
come. SSH-1 has problems, but they are not so severe that they negate the
benefits of its occasional use. For example, Cisco routers with IOS 12
support SSH, but only protocol 1. I would rather have the choice of using
SSH-1 with such devices, than be forced to use Telnet by someone claiming
that this is somehow going to increase security for everybody.
--
Richard Silverman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: 667 Neighbor of the Beast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Too expensive, too invasive
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 11:15:28 -0700
Chad Everett wrote:
>
> On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:26:57 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
> >Oddly enough, and I still haven't figured out quite why, but there are a
> >number of sites which don't seem to render _at all_ using NS4.6 under Linux,
> >but happily render with NS4 under Windows, and also render quite happily
> >with other browsers (IE, konqueror, opera, etc.)
What is Konqueror?
>
> You should probably upgrade to at least 4.76 though.
4.75 is just fine. Actually, the Netscape group recommended that I
not go to .76.
--
Bob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:18:29 GMT
On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:24:28 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>silverback wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 14:31:28 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >silverback wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:24:01 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >silverback wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:04:38 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >silverback wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:31:27 -0800, "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >silverback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:44:35 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> >> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >Scott Erb wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> I couldn't believe the sudden torrent of fascist like threats and
>> >> >> >> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Spot the character assassination.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >First of all, Fascism is a form of socialism. By now, it should be
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> wrong clyde. Fascism is the polar opposite of socialism. Fascism has
>> >> >> >> >> always been a top down revolution to protect the interest of the rich
>> >> >> >> >> corporate owners. The fact that the fascist supporters are from the
>> >> >> >> >> top tier of society is enough to dispense with yer silly nonsense.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >They are just about one and the same. Socialism usually leads into
>fascism,
>> >> >> >> >look at Germany around 1930's to 1945.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> too bad moron.The Nazi were right wingers and advocated the same
>> >> >> >> fucking nonsense as what you do. Cut the taxes of the rich, privatize
>> >> >> >> large portions of government, outlaw unions, eliminate welfare and
>> >> >> >> unemployment.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Hint: THOSE are not the attributes which made the Nazis bad.
>> >> >> > Hope that helps, sliverdick.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> oh yes they were.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Do you think cartels are good or bad?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> bad idiot.
>> >
>> >Then why do you support unions, which are nothing more than labor cartels.
>> >
>> no thats a big lie
>
>Try hiring a person to work on an auto assembly line who DOESN'T want
>to be a part of the UAW.
if he doesn't want to join the union then he can go find another job.
>
>The UAW will go to court to prevent the non-UAW person from working
>in that capacity at the plant.
>
you damn right let the scabs go work elsewhere
>Now....this is different form a cartel how, exactly?
the fool has a choice to work elsewhere.
>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> And the Nazi economy was based on cartels. But then cartels
>> >
>> >Labor unions are nothing more than labor cartels.
>>
>> wrong again fool
>
>See above.
too bad yer trash bullshit fell on yer head.
>
>
>>
>> >
>> >> are a right wing approach to business. In America we were a little
>> >
>> >No...cartels are a SOCIALIST approach to business...as evidenced
>> >by the fact that leftists are very fond of labor cartels.
>>
>> wrong again stupid
>>
>> >
>> >> more honest about cartels we called the leaders of such robber barons.
>> >
>> >....and Union Thugs.
>>
>> no yer an idiot.
>
>Visit Detroit sometime. Wherever there's a union, there's union THUGS
>committing violence and property damage against anybody who opposes them
yer lying again
>(even 3rd-parties not directly involved in the dispute....like during the
>newspaper strike, when they littered a major thoroughfare outside of
>a printing plant with tire-spikes....causing dozens of flat tires among
strikes should be respected by the public
>passing motorists....or the Teamsters, who every time there's a strike,
>go out and start shooting at Interstate traffic.
>
>If that's not thuggery, then what, in your bully-loving opinion, is,
>eh Sliverdick...
>
>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >Aaron R. Kulkis
>> >> >> >Unix Systems Engineer
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Aaron R. Kulkis
>> >> >Unix Systems Engineer
>> >>
>> >> GDY Weasel
> ^^^^^
>Yes, sliverdick, you ARE a weasel.
>
>> >
>> >--
>> >Aaron R. Kulkis
>> >Unix Systems Engineer
>
>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:18:53 GMT
On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:26:14 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>silverback wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 14:32:00 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >silverback wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:25:42 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >silverback wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 03 Apr 2001 10:42:15 GMT, "Alex Chaihorsky"
>> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >> gee another fucking idiot. Guess who supported him finacically during
>> >> >> >> the 20s? It was the rich industralists. Hitler came to power by making
>> >> >> >> secret deals with them. How was it that Hitler was released from
>> >> >> >> prision after the failed Beer hall Putsch when others that had only
>> >> >> >> revealed to the press snipets of information that proved Germany was
>> >> >> >> rearming. They rotted in prision. And yes they were charged with
>> >> >> >> treason in the early 20s.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Face it boob the only way Hitler gained such a release was someone or
>> >> >> >> many someones pulled strings for him to get out. And that means only
>> >> >> >> one thing the German elite.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Many a discussion here sooner or later come back to Nazi-Socialist question.
>> >> >> >To get to the bottom - question to everybody: HOW HITLER GOT TO BE
>> >> >> >CHANCELLOR?
>> >> >> >I start a new tread with that title. Please, give me your opinions. Here are
>> >> >> >the facts:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Historic facts:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >During 1932 elections
>> >> >> >Hitler got 11.8 million votes
>> >> >> >Social-Democrats 8.1
>> >> >> >Communists 5.8
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >To be a Chancellor, Hitler had to have absolute majority. He never got it.
>> >> >> >If Communists would get into coalition with SD, Nazi would be outsiders.
>> >> >> >Nazi party was in deep financial troubles, Hitler thought of suicide.
>> >> >> >Communists declined the coalition and Hitler won.
>> >> >> >Why wouldn't Communists eliminate Hitler by supporting SocDems?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> fact Hitler was appointed chancelor after a backroom deal with the
>> >> >> leaders of big business. The communist and Nazis were rabidly opposed
>> >> >> to each other.
>> >> >
>> >> >And yet, Stalin told the Communists to vote for Hitler.
>> >>
>> >> no
>> >
>> >And yet, it happened.
>>
>> nope it never happened
>
>Sliverdick makes fun of the holocaust-deniers, while engaging in the
>same pattern of behavior as himself.
too bad I stick to the facts
>
>
>>
>> >
>> >It's a matter of HISTORY. Look it up, asshole.
>> >
>>
>> yer trying to rewrite history and got caught lying. I know more about
>> the German elections than a little liar like you will ever know.
>
>Really. You were in Germany peeking over the shoulders of your
>fellow commies while they voted.....or something.
>
>
>>
>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:20:13 GMT
On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 08:27:09 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>silverback wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 14:33:04 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >silverback wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:26:17 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >silverback wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:00:40 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Michael Ejercito wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:00:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> >> (silverback) wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:44:35 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> >> >> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>Scott Erb wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> I couldn't believe the sudden torrent of fascist like threats and
>> >> >> >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>Spot the character assassination.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>First of all, Fascism is a form of socialism. By now, it should be
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >wrong clyde. Fascism is the polar opposite of socialism. Fascism has
>> >> >> >> >always been a top down revolution to protect the interest of the rich
>> >> >> >> >corporate owners. The fact that the fascist supporters are from the
>> >> >> >> >top tier of society is enough to dispense with yer silly nonsense.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Fascism has more to do with abolishment of individual rights.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >****ALLL**** forms of SOCIALism are about abolishing individual rights.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> sorry idiot fascism has always been a right wing ideology. Its what
>> >> >> you spew forth.
>> >> >
>> >> >yes...right wing SOCIALISM, sliverdick.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> there is no such thing as right wing socialism
>> >
>> >What part of "National Socialist Workers Party" do you not understand?
>> > ^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> poor damn fool still thinks East germany was a democracy too.
>>
>
>The inaccuracy of ONE title does not imply the inaccuracy of ALL titles.
it applies in spades to the term socialist in the Nazi party idiot.
The Nazis were right wing extremist like yerself.
The Nazis believed in corporate rule, so do you.
The Nazis cut the taxes on the rich the way you would.
>
>Hope that helps, sliverdick.
>
>
>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Lex Spoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Is StarOffice 5.2 "compatible" w/MS Office 97/2000?
Date: 05 Apr 2001 14:18:30 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Croughton) writes:
> PDF, if you must preserve the format (although getting raw data out of
> it is a pain and it's massive). Or Word and StarOffice will produce and
> import RTF. Or even nroff/troff format. Or if it's to someone who
> uses the same application, native format compressed and encoded (Word,
> StarOffice, whatever).
Incidentally, the "RTF" generated by Word nowadays has lots of
nonstandard extensions in it that free tools don't understand. So....
don't trust it. :(
-Lex
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