Linux-Advocacy Digest #450, Volume #33 Sun, 8 Apr 01 12:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message (Salvador Peralta)
Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Baseball ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Baseball (Chad Everett)
Re: Chimp in TV program downloads Linux to talk ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Undeniable proof that Aaron R. Kulkis is a hypocrite, and a ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Undeniable proof that Aaron R. Kulkis is a hypocrite, and a ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: Salvador Peralta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 08:24:33 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WGAF quoth:
>> I've never that happen in v2.1. I have application crashes, and
>> application lockups ( so far, only knode in v2.1 ), but that is a
>> simple PS -A, kill PID. Or XKill.
>
> Hmm... Tha application locks up but you kill X. Did you say that the
> X never locks up?
No. XKill is a graphical front end where you simply put the
skull and bones on the frozen app and click to kill it. Clearly you
don't even know what the tools are -- and that one has been around
for years.
You'd have similar functionality on windows, but application crashes
usually result in system crashes so probably no one ever thought of
it.
>> I said better integration between the browser and applications.
>> Can you specify that you want to use an image editor to open images
>> in
>> IE? Can you select what application you'd like to use to view
>> source? Can you specify what mail client you'd like to use? Which
>> news client? How much configuration can you do on your key
>> bindings?
>> Can you open zipped and gzipped files without uncompressing them?
>> Can you set HTTP user agent?
>
> Sure you can, there's MS Outlook and Outlook Express mail clients.
So what you are saying is that IE is not as fully integrated with the
applications on your desktop as Konqueror. You cannot set key
bindings. You cannot select *ANY* mail client as the default. You
cannot select an image editor ( like Gimp ) to open images from the
browser. You cannot specify your newsreader, etc. you cannot even
view compressed files.
Thanks for clarifying that issue.
>> Simply untrue. The only application on my desktop that I do not
>> have full cut-and-paste capabilities with other applications is
>> Mozilla. And that's because the project made a poor choice of
>> widget sets to work with.
>
> Therefore the copy/paste doesn't work doesn't work within apps on
> the Linux platform.
Within 1 application. Works fine on the rest of the ones I have on
my desktop. What you are suggesting that you cannot copy and paste
at all, which is untrue and misleading. I can even paste from a
graphical app into a terminal window. Try that on windows.
>> Some people might justify spending a few hundred on that
>> piece of functionality. I cannot.
>
> Really, how about Visio?
I use pic. With it I can do what visio does and a great deal more.
> Tomcat can't hold a candle to Jrun 3.0. Etc, etc....
lol.
> As for Linux not
> being a commercial desktop option until now, that in itself says a
> lot about all of the arguments from last year.
I wasn't making that case last year beyond saying that Linux was more
stable and better for power users. Linux didn't surpass windows for
"average joe user" until kde 2.1.
>> I hope you have licenses for all of those copies. If not, you are
>> admitting to a criminal act in a public forum.
>
> The licenses came with the PC from the OEM, which isn't really a
> copy of W2K anyway just a restore CD. Nice of you to assume that I
> don't have the necessary licenses, typical Linux mentality since
> that's what you would've done.
I wouldn't have to worry about it. I can legally install as many
systems as I want off of a single copy of linux.
In any case, I didn't assume anything. I simply said I hope that all
of your copies are licensed. 6 OEM versions of PC's in a year? Very
few home users have the resources to purchase 6 new pc's in a year.
Are you sure you want to keep talking about this in a public forum?
>> Not at all. I've made the case for Linux being superior with the
>> applications that are bundled with it. If you'd like to make a
>> case for windows plus a bunch of commercial add-on's, don't forget
>> to throw in the costs associated with each purchase required to
>> bring it's suite of applications up to or above what I have for
>> free on linux.
>
> And don't forget to mention that, just like with anything else you
> get what you pay for.
Post the applications and their costs and we'll see whether that
holds water. I suspect that in most cases, it does not.
>> Which makes me wonder why microsoft simply isn't improving as
>> quickly.
>
> That's funny...
Yes, it is.
> You forgot an adjective, let me correct it for you. "more useless
> applications on my linux
> system than you do on any of your windows systems."
Useless, perhaps, to someone who has been trained to solve problems
by vendorlocking their clients into purchasing more software. To
someone who needs tools to rapidly develop custom applications at a
fraction of the cost, and greater flexibility, *everything* that came
with the system is invaluable.
> I guess I should've spelled out what I said to the Solaris admin.
> Nonetheless, you missed the point that there are incompetent admins
> with any OS.
... and with NT more than most.
>> Start with the how-to's. My system came bundled with most of them.
>
> And read through on the history of Linux and how great Linux Torwald
> is? No thanks.. Besides, what the hell the pronunciation of his name
> is doing in the how-to's?
If you don't want to learn the system, that's fine. At least you
admit that you don't fully understand how to use the system because
you don't want to learn it.
> And my Mandrake 7.0, Caldera 2.4 came with generally useless man
> pages.
they might not scale down to the level of nt admin but I have yet to
find a "useless" man page.
>> So you understand why there are many times more linux systems
>> deployed than there are systems licensed. Why not just concede the
>> point and have done?
>
> Because I don't agree with you on that point, pretending that there
> are more Linux installation than the actual figure is rubbish.
It isn't the actual figure of systems deployed. It is the number of
licenses shipped. IDC is very clear on that point and even suggests
that their numbers are lower than the number of systems in
production. Do you expect to do anything other than lose credibility
when you deny that gnu licensing actively promotes a one to many
relationship between licenses shipped and systems deployed?
> Yes, Linux can do all of that albeit not as well as a commercial
> grade OS.
Right. NT scales beyond where a cray does. Tux doesn't annhilate
IIS in terms of transaction processing. Keep telling yourself these
things. You'll still be wrong, but perhaps you need to cling to such
illusions to justify throwing money away on an inferior os.
>> Yep. Windows has nowhere to go but down.
>
> Statistics seems to disagree with you, get used of it.
Feel free to cite something to refute the statement that Linux is the
fastest growing OS in the desktop and server market. I'm sure you
know something that IDC does not.
> And NT also has a larger server market share what you seem to
> forget.
... only in terms of licenses shipped. But we've already gone around
that issue. The fact that you are unwilling to admit that GNU
licensing promotes a one to many relationship between systems
deployed and licenses shipped casts a pall on your credibility in
this portion of our discussion.
>> I agree. But with linux, they aren't locked into a gui, and that's
>> also how it should be.
>
> Geeks will be geeks...
Yes, and fools will be fools. Why waste resources on a graphical
front end if it isn't necessary? "Ummm... because my vendor of
choice didn't properly assess the direction that client/server
computing would take 11 years ago and locked me into a gui-only
solution..."
Nah, that'd be too honest.
--
Salvador Peralta -o)
Programmer/Analyst, Webmaster / \
[EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 11:10:34 -0400
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said WGAF in alt.destroy.microsoft on Fri, 06 Apr 2001 18:33:30 GMT;
> [...]
> >Once again you're wrong... I'm not even going to argue how well Unix or
> >Linux can handle multiple services on the same server. Not to mention the
> >fact that it greatly depends on the underlying hardware. One of the
> >Microsft's product, Small Business Server, incorporates Exchange, SQL,
> >Proxy, web, file and print services, etc, into one server. Can you see why
> >your posting was wrong, or should I give you some hints?
>
> Just in case anybody actually CARES, the term for "the computer a server
> runs on" is "host". Linux can handle multiple servers on the same
> _host_. Microsoft crapware puts multiple servers into the same _host_.
> Get it?
Actually, it takes multiple Mafia$oft hosts to effectively implement
even one server.
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 11:13:21 -0400
Anonymous wrote:
>
> T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Said Anonymous in alt.destroy.microsoft on Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:09:06
> > -0600;
> > >T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Said Anonymous in alt.destroy.microsoft on Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:06:51
> > >> -0600;
> > >> >"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >> Maybe Microsoft will go the full monty and deliver a stable OS for once?
> > >> >
> > >> >why don't you do something to make unix as easy to use as windows while
> > >> >retaining the former's stability and put microsoft out of business?
> > >>
> > >> Your result does not logically follow from your premise, I'm afraid.
> > >> What does ease of use have to do with illegal monopolization?
> > >
> > >for one thing it's extremely popular and thus affords you the opportunity
> >
> >
> > What does ease of use have to do with illegal monopolization?
>
> microsoft's total domination of the desktop is the result of windows.
^^^^^^^
you misspelled "illegal anti-competitive behavior, including extortion,
blackmail, dumping, etc."
> no amount of alleged monopolistic tactics will cut it if the product
> don't sell.
> or:
> if they had stuck with dos we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Baseball
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 8 Apr 2001 10:10:27 -0500
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 07:16:48 -0600, Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>microsoft's total domination of the desktop is the result of windows.
>no amount of alleged monopolistic tactics will cut it if the product
>don't sell.
Nope...it's due to Excel, Word, Access, PowerPoint, Exchange: Office.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Chimp in TV program downloads Linux to talk
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 11:23:54 -0400
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Kelsey Bjarnason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : So let's put this in context. Who are the Lone Gunmen? They're a group of
> : socially inept ultrageeks with an extreme paranoia about business and
> : government being "out to get" them, and the little guy in general. Now
> : certainly not all Linux users fit that category, but if you look around,
> : there do seem to be a few vocal ones who do. You draw the conclusion about
> : the choice of picking Linux for the show. :)
>
> The funny part is that a chimp is easier to convert to Linux than the Windows
> sheeple. Would you rather be an ape or a sheep?
heh heh heheh hehhe
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Undeniable proof that Aaron R. Kulkis is a hypocrite, and a
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 11:29:38 -0400
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sat, 07 Apr 2001 19:06:41 -0400
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> [snip for brevity]
>
> >> I don't think he's actually using Mozilla; he's using a
> >> modified SLRN, if memory serves. Personally, I'm not
> >> sure it's worth the trouble; security through obscurity
> >> does not work in the cryptographic field and it's unclear
> >> it would work elsewhere, either -- a hacker with access
> >> to sufficient knowledge would probably just try everything
> >> to get into a system. :-)
> >
> >Ask the military about camoflauge, and get back to us :-)
>
> Yes, I saw your other post. Not unreasonable, actually.
> Can't say I know how well it works -- and camoflage is such
> a laughable idea on the surface that it's surprising how
> well it works -- in fact it works so well it's implemented
> in nature using a zebra's stripes, a tiger's stripes,
> and a leopard's spots, otherwise pointless coloration.
> I've not seen an animal using the current "crazy-color" scheme,
> though -- but hey, if it works, use it; and the military has
> been using it for years.
The "crazy color scheme" works at close range by fucking up the
viewer's pattern-matching mechanism, but truly shines at medium
range because the whole mish-mash of colors appear to be a whole
DIFFERENT color.
>
> (It'll be interesting to see what can be done against
> infrared goggles, admittedly. Most likely they'll
> have to develop a good light insulating material made
> into a coat, or a thick insulating goo spread on the
> face, hands, feet, etc. But I digress. :-) )
>
> [rest snipped]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random warmth here
> EAC code #191 1d:22h:35m actually running Linux.
> Hi. I'm a signature virus.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Undeniable proof that Aaron R. Kulkis is a hypocrite, and a
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 11:30:57 -0400
The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron R. Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Sat, 07 Apr 2001 18:53:21 -0400
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >"Stephen S. Edwards II" wrote:
> >>
> >> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> : Martin Eden wrote:
> >> : >
> >> : > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron R. Kulkis says...
> >> : >
> >> : > Jesus Christ on a stick, kook-boy; Are you still going at this?
> >> : > I would have thought you'd have shut your fat mouth by now.
> >> : >
> >> : > You do realize that *everyone* with an ounce of intelligence has
> >> : > seen you for who you are, don't you?
> >>
> >> : you keep telling yourself that.
> >>
> >> : ALL newsreader software that has an ID string has it embedded
> >> : within the source code. It's a simple matter or editing it with
> >> : vi and running make to disguise both the newsreader and the OS.
> >>
> >> : And since on Linux...you have the source code....
> >>
> >> : Well, I'll leave the rest as an exercise for the reader.
> >>
> >> : Clue for the clueless: make is your friend.
> >>
> >> Right Aaron. Just go ahead, and pretend that you're
> >> some 'leet programming genius. We all know that you're
> >> really just some luser with a PC. How can we make it
> >> any clearer to you that you have absolutely nothing
> >> on you to lead us to believe that you have one single
> >> ounce of knowledge about anything?
> >
> >Actually, I have programmed in the following languages
> >
> >VSBASIC (IBM 370)
> >APPLE BASIC (Apple ][ and ][+)
> >Waterloo FORTRAN (IBM 370)
> >6502 assembly language
> >Fortran 77 (various BSD Unix systems)
> >Pascal
> >C
> >PDP-11 assembly language
> >VAX-11 asembly language
> >IBM 370 assembly language
> >Intel 8080 assembly language
> >Motorola 6809 assembly language
> >Motorola 680x0 assembly language
> >Motorola 68HC11 assembly language
> >csh
> >ksh
> >awk
> >sed
>
> I'd be surprised if you didn't also program in sh/bash. (Did
Most of my ksh code will run under sh/bash.
> you touch VMS DCL at all?) Also, have you conspicuously
> avoided x86 for any particular reason? I've dabbled in it
Yeah..
1. fucking HATE the x86 instruction set.
2. I never had any reason to program in it.
> myself -- bodgy processor! Even the 1802 had more sensible
> register allocation -- and that's an old 8-bit micro which
> was so slow a PDP-8 could probably beat it. :-) But it was
> fun to work with for flashing LED's. :-)
>
> Mind you, the 6502 was even more quirky than the x86.
> (Zeropage,X) and (Zeropage),Y? Sheesh.
>
> Hmm, maybe I answered my own question. :-)
>
> [rest snipped]
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random bodgery here
> EAC code #191 1d:23h:40m actually running Linux.
> Hi. I'm a signature virus.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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