Linux-Advocacy Digest #476, Volume #33           Tue, 10 Apr 01 02:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
  Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
  Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
  Re: Basement Boy: Aka Aaron Koookis ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why does Open Source exist, and what way is it developing? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: MS and ISP's ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor ("JLI")
  Re: Undeniable proof that Aaron R. Kulkis is a hypocrite, and a  ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 03:51:42 GMT

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:24:34 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Goldhammer wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:33:15 -0400,
>> Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> > Right. Fascism is characterized by the *state-directed* control of
>> >the economy,
>> 
>> Hmm. Sounds like communism.
>
>Precisely.
>
>Communism and Fascism are merely different sides of the same coin.

bullshit you lying sack of shit. Fascism is the polar opposite of
communism. They have nothing in common.

>
>
>> 
>> --
>> Don't think you are. Know you are.
>
>
>-- 
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
>       Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
>       Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
>       Special Interest Sierra Club,
>       Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>       Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>       The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>       Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>    you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>   her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>   ...despite (C) above.
> 
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>   direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 03:52:27 GMT

On 9 Apr 2001 11:41:31 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad
Everett) wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:41:28 GMT, silverback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>too bad you forgot to mention the fact that it was the large
>>corporations that wrote the laws under the Nazis. It is capatailism.
>>
>
>Hey...you just proved that the Nazi system wasn't capitalism. Thanks!

actually I just proved that fascism is capitalism.

>
>>
>>fascism has nothing to do with socialism buttfuck
>>
>
>True, but you're comparing apples and oranges.  A fascism buttfuck is
>pretty much the same thing as a socialism buttfuck.
>
>

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:48:05 -0400

Chad Everett wrote:
> 
> On 8 Apr 2001 21:29:24 -0700, kirk@do_not_spam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I spend the last 3 hours trying to mount a CD on linux and finally
> >gave up. I wasted too much time. Booted windows NT, stuck the CD in,
> >and on I went to work.
> >
> >If anyone thinks this junk will compete with windows they must be
> >out of their minds.
> >
> >And before anyone tells me I am a newbie, I am not.
> >
> >I had a IDE r/w CDROM. with SUSE 7.1, kernel 2.4, and KDE latest and greatest.
> >
> >Wanted to burn some files into the CD (which on windows is a breeze).
> >
> >so I started KonCD  (or whatver that thing is called that comes with KDE).
> >of course , it did not see it and no reason is given. searching and
> >reading I found I need to build a new kernel with scsi ide emulation mode
> >(imagin if someone on windows has to rebuild windows to write a CD).
> >
> 
> Someone with Windows can't rebuild window even if they wanted to.
> 
> Short answer.  This guys bought a really crappy CD R/W drive.  Probably
> has a WinModem too.
        ^^^^^^^^

You misspelled "LoseModem"





-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To: 
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 03:53:33 GMT

On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 17:23:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam A. Kersh)
wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 01:03:26 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>> and yer fucking nuts.
>>>> and that is beyond any doubt.
>>>
>>>Translation: Sliverdick has been beaten.  That's why he's not resorting
>>>to personal attacks to the exclusion of arguing the facts.
>>>
>>>> 
>>>> >
>>>> >If not, then it ain't fascist.
>>>> 
>>>> fascism has nothing to do with socialism fuckhead. Fascism is based on
>>>> corporate rule and capatilism.
>>>
>
>>>Only in your twisted mind.  Under capitalism, all businessmen are free
>>>to conduct business in a free market.  Under Fascism, small businessmen
>>>are only allowed to operate with the permission of the big businessmen...
>>>therefore, Fascism is NOT capitalism.
>>
>>too bad you forgot to mention the fact that it was the large
>>corporations that wrote the laws under the Nazis. It is capatailism.
>
>the Nazi or Natioalsozialistishe Partei was formed in 1919 was
>originally part of the National Socialist German Worker's party;.  It
>was founded on fascist principals, not capitalist.  When Hitler took
>over the party in 1921, they quickly moved to  place all industry,
>established the "superiority" of certain social groups (Can you say
>"Final Solution," silverback?) and the supremacy of Der Fûhrer..

wrong again liar. Fascism is corporate rule. The Nazis allowed the
corporations to write the laws.

>
>The deeps of silverback's ignorance is truly astounding.
>
>
>Sam A. Kersh
>NRA Patron Member
>TSRA, JPFO
>http://www.flash.net/~csmkersh/
>===============================================================================
>"The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary
>government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote
>in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible." 
>               -- Senator Hubert H. Humphrey (D-Minnesota)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Basement Boy: Aka Aaron Koookis
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:49:44 -0400

Donn Miller wrote:
> 
> WesTralia wrote:
> >
> > Well Aaron, the obvious has become VERY obvious.  You my friend, are a
> > Windows 98 only user.  There is no camouflage, there is no security through
> > obfuscation, there is no header string being changed, and there is certainly
> > no truth to your shoddy claim.
> 
> I don't understand it anyways.  How does changing your headers to make
> it look like you're running Windows 98 provide more security?  If

Ask the army why they camoflauge their tanks, and get back to me.


> anything, it invites even MORE script kiddies to attack your box,
> because in their minds, you're running an unsecured OS.  All they'd have
> to do anyways is telnet into your box, and look at the OS identification
> there to find out what you're REALLY running.  Oh wait, don't tell me
> Aaron changed his login message to say "Windows 98 telnet server"?  LOL!
> 
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-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why does Open Source exist, and what way is it developing?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:52:48 -0400

Chad Everett wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 07 Apr 2001 05:26:22 GMT, Jasper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Only on the net...
> >
> >The day cockroaches become a threat to the existence of the human
> >species would be the day of the beginning of the end of the cockroach.
> >
> >Just because someone has shown that roaches were resistant to fallout
> >radiation from nuclear holocaust are people now describing it as " the
> >near perfect cockroach"?  The power of the modern media at work!
> >
> 
> True story.  I used to work at a place that sealed part of their circuits
> in little plastic boxes filled with some kind of black epoxy, plastic
> stuff that dried hard.  Only the leads would be left sticking out.
> In order to get all the airbubbles out, after the box was filled, they'd
> put these things is a little vaccum chamber.  One day we found this
> big cockroach scurrying across the floor so we caught it and stuck it in
> the vaccum chamber and turned on the pump.  The thing blew up to about
> 4 times its original size.  When we let the air back in the chamber
> the roach instantly shrunk back down to original size and when the
> door was opened again, it scurried out and crawled away.

Remember....shellfish (crabs, lobsters, etc.) are just giant aquatic insects.
-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS and ISP's
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:55:38 -0400

Chad Myers wrote:
> 
> "Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:42:54 -0400, JS PL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > MS holds no "right" to be on all computers, but my power company holds the
> > > "right" to be my sole supplier of electricity. That is a true monopoly.
> >
> > [snip lots]
> >
> > You could have just said that you do not believe that there are any
> > monopolies except government-granted ones and saved us all the silly
> > analogies.
> >
> > BTW, you do not have to buy power from your power company.  You could
> > put solar cells on your roof, put up a windmill, or install a generator.
> > You still have options, so what's your beef?  Or are you going to whine
> > that it might be more difficult or cost more?
> >
> >
> > > Also the barrier to entry for new grocery stores (like operating
> > > systems) is extremely low.
> >
> > How can you say that with a straight face?  IBM spent billions on OS/2,
> > MS spends billions on Windows, and Linux would have cost billions had
> > it not been done by volunteers.
> 
> You just made his point. The point is, it _WAS_ done by volunteers
> and has achieved significant market share. The DOJ has no case anymore.

Yes, the do.

The suit is about Mafia$oft's behavior in the early 1990's.

No amount of current events will change Mafia$ofts past criminal behavior.

As such, they should be punished for it...and if everything goes
well...the WILL BE.


> Someone was able to, from scratch practically, write an OS that has
> seen corporate adoption and is now competing with Microsoft in at least
> one market, if not several. The barrier to entry in the OS market is
> relatively low compared to others (Auto industry to beat a dead horse).
> If some kid or a group of part-time hackers can whip together an OS
> in a couple years, then people who say MS has no competitors are lying.
> 
> It's just that, historically, none of these companies had the right
> management or competency to build a project of this magnitude. This,
> among other things is why developers took matters into their own
> hands and made Linux in the first place. (yes, I know that's not the
> primary reason...).
> 
> The only thing Microsoft has a monopoly on, it seems, is the brain
> power, the succesful management, and the competency to create a world-class
> OS in a corporate environment WHILE making money at the same time.
> 
> -c


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "JLI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 06:00:03 GMT


===== Original Message =====
From: Greg Copeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.
java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.lin
ux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor


> Knowledge Seeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Didn't read all of your requiremnets, but EMACS is THE editor.  Like it
> or not, it what all other editors try to be.  Period.  That doesn't mean
> that it's for you, as it does have a rather steep learning curve, however,
> it is THE programmer's editor.

EMACS is a monster. It takes over 20 MB memory and starts very slowly
(>10sec).
It tries to do everything, but is short at most thing. I know many people
love
it after they have mastered it, but it takes time.
Most modern software packages have nowdays their own IDEs which are
mostly more appropriate choices as primary tool.

For simple editing work vi is properly the best tool on UNIX. It is always
available,
it is fast, and it is optimized with respect to key-strikes. Many people
hate it
because of it's duoal mode, but vi has been actively in use for over 20
years and
has not changed significantly. So, if you learned vi in two or three days,
you can use
the same vi on any UNIX machine for properly another 15 years. Another nice
thing
about vi is that it hardly need any configuration, whereas EMACS's
strength/weakness
is let you configure it to fit your need (in Lisp-like language).

JLi





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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Undeniable proof that Aaron R. Kulkis is a hypocrite, and a 
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 02:00:28 -0400

The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Ayende Rahien
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  wrote
> on Sun, 8 Apr 2001 16:56:46 +0200
> <9apuo5$56u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> >message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> >> (It'll be interesting to see what can be done against
> >> infrared goggles, admittedly.  Most likely they'll
> >> have to develop a good light insulating material made
> >> into a coat, or a thick insulating goo spread on the
> >> face, hands, feet, etc.  But I digress. :-) )
> >
> >*Bad* idea. You will be cooked to death in a short while. No heat
> >dissapation. Especially when being physically active.
> 
> Heh...whoops, my bad; hadn't thought of that.  One might be able to
> strive for the "invisible man with gloves and shoes" effect, but
> I think the enemy will, ahem, see right through that ploy....
> 
> Mind you, something will have to be done.  The only thing I can think
> of that might take care of the heat dissipation problem is piping
> to a heat exchanger (think liquid-cooled thermal underwear); this

All this does is move the heat from one place to another.  Not a solution.


> has certain obvious problems that limit its use.  (Either the user
> radiates very hot (bright) from his backpack, or he's attached to a
> vehicle and/or structure with a limited radius of movement, and
> that vehicle will radiate; target the vehicle, and the soldiers
> might have to play "schuck the suit".)
> 
> I'm not sure if there's a safe endothermic reaction that might be
> usable for this sort of thing; such would have a limited lifetime.
> Or one just wears ice...
> 

There are just as many REALISTIC ways to disguise oneself in the
infrared portion of the spectrum as anywhere else.


All you have to do is make a situation where you are indistinguishable
from the surrounding environment.

In the thermal spectrum, this means making other sources of heat,
and dissippating your own heat.


There are ways around this....but for the sake of soldiers, I'm
keeping them to myself.





> Of course, the soldiers could just do something extremely simple,
> like setting up a camouflaged duck blind :-).  Not sure how to
> keep the pieces the proper temperature as they're setting it up,
> apart from setting it up the night before.  (And the soldiers had
> better wear gloves, to avoid thermal handprints; it will also
> be unheated for obvious reasons, especially if the soliders are
> shooting from the blind, as the last thing they'll want are
> well-"lighted" target windows! :-) ).
> 
> One might also get real esoteric and sport random-cooled wear; this wear
> would have the same effect visually on inrared sensing devices as
> current camouflage has on visual sensing ones, assuming it's not
> horribly uncomfortable for the soldier ("dammit, Sarge, my one foot is
> *freezing*!" :-)).
> 
> And then there are real far-out ideas, like transparent armor; this
> armor uses tiny sensors all over and basically threads the light level
> picked up to someplace on the otherside, rendering the wearer nearly
> invisible, at least in theory.  (Presumably, it would be a bit like
> wearing a fiber optic cluster all over one's body, something along the
> lines of various lit-up gewgaws occasionally purchasable at
> high-tech shops.)  I'm not sure this even comes close to defeating
> infrared goggles, though -- and most likely the standard camouflage
> works better, anyway. :-)
> 
> >s
> >
> >
> 
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random heated discussion here
> EAC code #191       3d:01h:12m actually running Linux.
>                     It's a conspiracy of one.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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