Linux-Advocacy Digest #477, Volume #33 Tue, 10 Apr 01 04:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Undeniable proof that Aaron R. Kulkis is a hypocrite, and a ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Basement Boy: Aka Aaron Koookis (Donn Miller)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (GreyCloud)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (Goldhammer)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (Thore B. Karlsen)
Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead. (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead. (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: NT secure server space majority? (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (John Hawkins)
Bill Gates Gets Hacked!! (GreyCloud)
Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead. (Goldhammer)
Re: MS and ISP's (Ed Allen)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Undeniable proof that Aaron R. Kulkis is a hypocrite, and a
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 02:01:25 -0400
Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> "The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Ayende Rahien
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote
> > on Sun, 8 Apr 2001 16:56:46 +0200
> > <9apuo5$56u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > >"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > >message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > >
> > >> (It'll be interesting to see what can be done against
> > >> infrared goggles, admittedly. Most likely they'll
> > >> have to develop a good light insulating material made
> > >> into a coat, or a thick insulating goo spread on the
> > >> face, hands, feet, etc. But I digress. :-) )
> > >
> > >*Bad* idea. You will be cooked to death in a short while. No heat
> > >dissapation. Especially when being physically active.
> >
> > Heh...whoops, my bad; hadn't thought of that. One might be able to
> > strive for the "invisible man with gloves and shoes" effect, but
> > I think the enemy will, ahem, see right through that ploy....
> >
> > Mind you, something will have to be done. The only thing I can think
> > of that might take care of the heat dissipation problem is piping
> > to a heat exchanger (think liquid-cooled thermal underwear); this
> > has certain obvious problems that limit its use. (Either the user
> > radiates very hot (bright) from his backpack, or he's attached to a
> > vehicle and/or structure with a limited radius of movement, and
> > that vehicle will radiate; target the vehicle, and the soldiers
> > might have to play "schuck the suit".)
>
> Instead of blocking the heat, it would be better if you could mask the human
> heat signature.
> Since currently the only use for IR vision is with humans watchers, you
> might want to use camoflouge there too.
precisely. As soon as the person's IR signature is indistinguishable
from his environment, he "disappears" from IR sensors.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 02:29:31 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Basement Boy: Aka Aaron Koookis
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> Ask the army why they camoflauge their tanks, and get back to me.
But if you disguise yourself as the enemy, you risk being hit by one of
the "good guys".
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:55:50 -0700
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Goldhammer wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:33:15 -0400,
> > Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Right. Fascism is characterized by the *state-directed* control of
> > >the economy,
> >
> > Hmm. Sounds like communism.
>
> Precisely.
>
> Communism and Fascism are merely different sides of the same coin.
>
It seems you have a trailer behind you.
> >
> > --
> > Don't think you are. Know you are.
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
--
V
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Goldhammer)
Crossposted-To:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:02:20 GMT
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 04:06:19 GMT,
Thore B. Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:06:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Goldhammer) wrote:
>
>>>Didn't read all of your requiremnets, but EMACS is THE editor. Like it
>>>or not, it what all other editors try to be.
>
>>Vi does not try to be Emacs.
>
>And thank heavens for that.
Consider how many elisp packages
there are providing emulation modes
for other editors, including one for vi.
Then you will see that it is not
"all the other editors" that are trying
to be Emacs, but that Emacs is trying
to be "all the other editors".
--
Don't think you are. Know you are.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thore B. Karlsen)
Crossposted-To:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:16:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:02:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Goldhammer) wrote:
>>>>Didn't read all of your requiremnets, but EMACS is THE editor. Like it
>>>>or not, it what all other editors try to be.
>>>Vi does not try to be Emacs.
>>And thank heavens for that.
>Consider how many elisp packages
>there are providing emulation modes
>for other editors, including one for vi.
>Then you will see that it is not
>"all the other editors" that are trying
>to be Emacs, but that Emacs is trying
>to be "all the other editors".
Once the shift-ctrl-meta double cokebottles take their toll it must be nice
to switch to vi/Viper. :) Emacs is a pain to use on my laptop because of the
insane key combinations. Vi wins hands down. And ever since I found out that
vim could be set up in about 3 lines to behave like I wanted it to behave,
while I never ever got Emacs to behave properly even with an .emacs the size
of a book I haven't used Emacs on my desktop either.
Sure, Emacs is configurable, but only with a lot of work. And even then it
might not be the right editor for you, so it's not the right answer for
everyone.
--
"By the time we've finished with him, he won't know whether
he's Number Six or the cube root of infinity!"
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:15:54 +1200
Well, I don't consider my self a genius, however, I was able to get my
CD-Writer working, and all it is a generic IDE ATAPI CD-Writer. People
who give up too easily never get anywhere in life, and mat@cd is the prime
example.
Matthew Gardiner
pip wrote:
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> >
> > First of all, I said CD-WRITER YOU FUCKING LUSER
> > Second of all, get a type writer and give everyone a break.
> > Thirdly, why did you use Linux?
>
> Calm down Matt!
>
> While you and I _can_ get the old CD-Writer working under Linux, I would
> not say that the process was "easy". Making IDE-APTI cd-writer into a
> pseudo scsi device using new kernel modules would certainly put off many
> people who are not really into computers. So in a sense, I have some
> sympathy with the "it's too hard" comments. If we are to take Linux to
> the people then we will have to change the RTFM attitude and let
> intuitive interfaces and even better automatic configuration scripts
> take their place. While the OP may have been a troll, there is a seed of
> truth in everything. It would be nice to let people without an extensive
> knowledge base use Linux easily, and this is a tricky thing to do
> without making the compromises that Mafia$oft of Apple has.
--
Disclaimer:
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
If you do not like it go: [rm -rf /home/luser] and
have a nice day :)
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:20:34 +1200
Remeber the amiga? wanted to copy something, copy [file] from df0: to df1: Plain
English.
Matthew Gardiner
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> GreyCloud wrote:
> >
> > "kirk@do_not_spam" wrote:
> > >
> > > I spend the last 3 hours trying to mount a CD on linux and finally
> > > gave up. I wasted too much time. Booted windows NT, stuck the CD in,
> > > and on I went to work.
> > >
> > > If anyone thinks this junk will compete with windows they must be
> > > out of their minds.
> > >
> > > And before anyone tells me I am a newbie, I am not.
> > >
> > > I had a IDE r/w CDROM. with SUSE 7.1, kernel 2.4, and KDE latest and greatest.
> > >
> > > Wanted to burn some files into the CD (which on windows is a breeze).
> > >
> > > so I started KonCD (or whatver that thing is called that comes with KDE).
> > > of course , it did not see it and no reason is given. searching and
> > > reading I found I need to build a new kernel with scsi ide emulation mode
> > > (imagin if someone on windows has to rebuild windows to write a CD).
> > >
> > > OK, I went through that, rebuild a new kernel, ran lilo and rebooted.
> > >
> > > now KonCD sees the device. I select the directory to write to the CD
> > > (why the hell it wont let one select a file, but a directory is another
> > > brain dead feature). So, it wrote the directory to the CD OK.
> > >
> > > Now another fun part starts. I wanted to read the CD. no chance. unable
> > > to mount the CD.
> > >
> > > tried every possible combination and device (trying to figure name of devices
> > > on linux is another stupid thing, why does not linux have at least something
> > > like 'volcheck' on Solaris?).
> > >
> >
> > I think that's why I like Solaris 8. Everything works and is adequately
> > documented.
> >
> > > Then I started searching the net for clues, I found that I need to tell
> > > the kernel at boot up some more hint. so added the line
> > >
> > > append "hdb=scsi"
> > >
> > > where hdb is my CD drive on my PC.
> > >
> > > re-run lilo and reboot.
> > >
> > > try again
> > >
> > > mount -r -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /some_directory
> > >
> > > no luck. same erros.
> > >
> > > Yes, I have iso file system build in.
> > >
> > > try a dozen more mount commands, all the same errors. dmesg simply tells
> > > me I have an IO error or some other cryptic kernel messages which gives
> > > no clue as what to do.
> > >
> > > shutdown the PC, reboot to window, stick the same CD and it is there.
> > > the directory I wrote on the CD is actually there.
> > >
> > > No rebuilding kernels, no telling windows any boot parameters, no
> > > mounting, no trying to remember the device cryptic names. It is just there
> > > to use. as an OS should be.
> >
> > I think the only really good O/S will be one that can read and interpret
> > a persons mind and then do it. In the real world, tho, it's not going
> > to get easy. Try to program in Windows or UNIX... not really all that
> > fun.
> >
> > I hear you. VMS is just the other way around... it uses an english like
> > approach to the command line. Sometimes it can be too wordy.
>
> You just need to shed your linguistic bias.
>
> Not all languages use articles (like "a" and "the")
>
> For instance, most slavic langauges (Czech, Polish, Ukrainian, Russian)
> have *NO* articles.
>
> the construct verb noun is proper grammar in those languages.
>
> as opposed to verb *a* noun or verb *the* noun
>
> >
> > >
> > > I can't believe this. why, I ask why, can't linux be as simple as windows?
> > >
> > > anyone who think this stuff will challenge windows must be on drugs, and
> > > I really mean that.
> >
> > Well, it can also be viewed the other way around... (win9x series)
> > things don't work very well in windows either. Works fine for a while
> > then it starts to degrade..
> > The biggest problem with windows after about 6 months, is that it gets
> > slower.. and slower...... and slower........ and
> > s-l-o-w-e-r................. nows thats frustration. Windows can just
> > drive ya to drink.
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
--
Disclaimer:
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
If you do not like it go: [rm -rf /home/luser] and
have a nice day :)
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NT secure server space majority?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:24:00 +1200
Depends in what market place. In terms of Webserver, sure, mind you,
basically and OS can be a webserver, however, in the real world, as servers
in organisations, you will find that there will always remain an
UNIX server churning away in the back ground, with out any problems, whilst
those who have chosen the Windows NT route suffer from the daily hell that
is admining Wintel servers.
Matthew Gardiner
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> >
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy, pip
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote
> > on Mon, 09 Apr 2001 12:24:56 +0100
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > >
> > >"kirk@do_not_spam" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> If anyone thinks this junk will compete with windows they must be
> > >> out of their minds.
> > >
> > >This "junk" is already winning in the server space. Think again.
> >
> > Latest information suggests that NT has a majority -- not just a
> > plurality -- in the secure server space. I have not been able
> > to verify this information, however; I'm not sure where to start. :-)
> > (This is mostly secondhand information from other posts in this
> > newsgroup.)
>
> That's only becuase it takes 25 NT servers to provide the same
> level of services as ONE Linux or Unix machine.
>
> If you measured the amount of actual SERVICE offered, NT is
> miniscule....because you would have to divide their numbers
> substantially (let's see...these 5 mail servers PLUS the DNS
> server PLUS these 15 file servers PLUS these 4 web servers
> PLUS this print server PLUS.... = ONE LINUX MACHINE)
>
> >
> > The majority, admittedly, is very slim -- about 50-52%.
> >
> > [rest snipped]
> >
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
> > EAC code #191 3d:19h:55m actually running Linux.
> > Are you still here?
>
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
--
Disclaimer:
I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
If you do not like it go: [rm -rf /home/luser] and
have a nice day :)
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Crossposted-To:
24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
From: John Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 10 Apr 2001 03:26:21 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thore B. Karlsen) writes:
> Once the shift-ctrl-meta double cokebottles take their toll it must be nice
> to switch to vi/Viper. :) Emacs is a pain to use on my laptop because of the
> insane key combinations. Vi wins hands down. And ever since I found out that
> vim could be set up in about 3 lines to behave like I wanted it to behave,
> while I never ever got Emacs to behave properly even with an .emacs the size
> of a book I haven't used Emacs on my desktop either.
>
> Sure, Emacs is configurable, but only with a lot of work. And even then it
> might not be the right editor for you, so it's not the right answer for
> everyone.
I'm too devoted to all the mode-based functionality that emacs offers
to leave it behind, but I'm a devoted Viper user after just a couple
weeks of exposure. The vi keybindings are fantastic. Dual mode seems
unnatural at first, but if you just think of editing as a game, it's
pretty painless to pick up, and heavens! what good use you can put
that real estate to!
For anyone who wants to try viper, may I cordially invite you to check
out my Introduction to Viper for Emacs Natives at
http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~jshawkins/viper-sample
(This has met with the author's approval for inclusion, and I would
love to have people try it out and comment on it so I can polish it!)
Regards,
John
PS note this is for EMACS users who want to learn VI. If you're going
the other direction, you needn't bother with my intro. Going from vi
to emacs was the whole motive for viper in the first place, so I have
nothing to add. :)
PPS emacs is rather a pain to configure in depth for new users, but I
would argue that its default behavior is no less reasonable than vim,
and also point to the EMacro project at sourceforge, which is
attempting to make it even smoother. Check it out!
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bill Gates Gets Hacked!!
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:26:46 -0700
Viagra Sale Cyberprank
Angers Bill Gates
by Andy Soltis
http://www.nypost.com/
4-9-1
A young British hacker obtained Bill Gates' credit card number and
used it to order Viagra sent to the software czar in an effort to show
how vulnerable the Internet is, it was reported.
Raphael Gray, 19, was arrested by FBI agents and British police in his
Welsh hometown of Clynderwen and will be sentenced for unlawful
hacking later this month, The Sun of London reported.
Gray said he sent Microsoft an e-mail, warning it that cybercrooks can
obtain the credit card details of people who shop online.
When Microsoft showed no interest, Gray, then 17, decided to "do
something that might grab their attention."
He said he broke into customer databases of dot-com firms and found
Gates' credit card number in one of them.
Gray ordered the male potency drug sent to Gates at Microsofts'
Redmond, Wash., headquarters.
"I wanted to prove a point," The Sun quoted him as saying.
"I sent Bill a lot of Viagra and I was disappointed not to get a thank
you note for demonstrating the insecurity of the site."
Gray also posted the credit card number of Gates and 23,000 other
people on his own Web site.
Gray was questioned for 14 hours and ultimately agreed to a plea
bargain.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Goldhammer)
Subject: Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:56:48 GMT
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 02:02:36 +0100,
pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>Goldhammer wrote:
>
>> It's confusing because IDE/ATAPI is confusing. If the
>> desktop world all used SCSI as the gods decreed they should,
>> nobody would be confused. But man has fashioned for himself
>> graven images like IDE, and strayed from the path of
>> righteousness.
>
>I shall endeavour to switch from my IDE madness if thou can provide a
>gift of the overpriced controller cards and the overpriced devices to
>which it connects. The SCSI vendors pockets groan with the gold that
>hath been confiscated from thy performance freaks.
And the Prophet saw his people groaning
under the yoke of tyranny; across the land,
PHBs savagely flogging admins for the merest
moment of down-time. And the Prophet spake
unto the Pharaoh: "Let my people go!" But
Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he said:
"Ye shall maintain the twice the uptime, ye
shall transfer twice the data, but now ye
shall do it without SCSI."
--
Don't think you are. Know you are.
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Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS and ISP's
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Allen)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:01:08 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JS PL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Once again, Microsoft enjoys no "right" to be on any computer...and never
>has.
>Anyone wishing a different OS can simply buy a computer with a different OS
>on it, or commission one to be built, or build one themselves!
>OS choices begin here:
>http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/
>
Your description leads me to believe that the only way MS could have a
monopoly according to you is if Congress outlawed any non MS OS. That
seems to be a different definition than anybody else uses.
Do you make a habit of making up your own definitions and ignoring the
legal ones ?
Buying a PC with anything but Windows preinstalled was impossible three
years ago and requires determination even today. Buying a different
kind of computer to avoid Windows gives up the low cost and abundant
variety of peripherals available only on the PC architecture.
Having an OS without applications is of zero value. Applications turn
a useless pile of parts into a useful tool. CPM was very popular but
when the newer applications went to MSDOS it died within two years.
Building a large number of apps is not "simple." That is why Judge
Jackson referred to "the applications barrier to entry".
The Linux community has been acquiring apps furiously for years and has
only recently acquired enough to begin being noticed by the mainstream
users. The number available does not, yet, appear to be enough to make
abandonment of Windows compelling for most people.
More find Linux to be a reasonable replacement every day and every day
more apps are added to the list so the balance will shift but it has not
happened yet.
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Linux -- The Unix defragmentation tool.
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