Linux-Advocacy Digest #626, Volume #33 Sun, 15 Apr 01 14:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ? (franek)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (Peter da Silva)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor ("David Ehrens")
Re: Impact of Internet (B'ichela)
Re: Fun With Old Laptops. (: (B'ichela)
Re: Big Brother Billy does it again! (Mig)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (Goldhammer)
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Article: Windows XP won't support USB 2.0 ("Electric Ninja")
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From: franek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:49:36 GMT
Ed Blackman wrote:
> On 25 Feb 2001 22:31:08 +0800, Paul Repacholi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >"Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > Of course the workers would have to access the system to enter data,
> >> > etc, so the user interfaces can't be too complicated (GUI?).
> >> Your workers would know how to use a web browser, so why not make the
> >> inventory system accessible through any web browser? The MySQL database
> >> and PHP scripting language would be a good combination for this task.
> >
> >Never worked in afactory have you? How long will the mouse keep working
> >after it has been grabbed by a paint/glue/oil... covered hand?
>
> So be conservative with your HTML and make sure the page renders nicely
> in lynx or another text mode browser.
I could never understand this enamoration with HTML-based interfaces. There's a good
case
for using HTML in a normal web-based environment, but why the hell one would want to
use
this crude and slow method in a standalone system is beyond me. Maybe they're
influenced
by Microsoft with their huge "innovations" like "look at your desktop as a web page"!
Wow.
End of desktop as we knew it. What you need on a factory floor is an industrial
air/water-tight enclosure with a freaken touch screen (which you can purchase either
built
into the strengthened box itself--there are products like that--or as a hardware
add-on)
and then a normal, fast-responding gui like Qt, or anything at all really. Just make
sure
your buttons are really HUGE, so that you can easily poke them with a gloved finger.
Btw,
these pokes come through as mouse clicks, so, programmatically, it is kinda
mouse-driven.
>
> Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter da Silva)
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: 15 Apr 2001 16:32:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Ash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Or do you mean UNIX? That was Kernighan, Ritchie, Thompson, Pike, they all
> >still work for Bell Labs/Lucent last I heard.
> I'm sure you realized I was talking about Linux.
Linus provided the kernel, using Minix (which WAS a complete OS). Most of
the OS was borrowed from Berkeley UNIX and the GNU project, which was by that
time largely developed on Berekeley UNIX.
If Linus had never existed, we'd still be in the same place with a BSD instead
of a Linux kernel under the hood. I'm not saying Linus didn't do an impressive
job, but he wasn't necessary nor sufficient for the "Linux phenomenon" to
happen.
And Linux is not any kind of competitor on the desktop. Apple *is*. And in the
back office there's a boatload of UNIX systems in use.
--
`-_-' In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva.
'U` "A well-rounded geek should be able to geek about anything."
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disclaimer: WWFD?
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From: "David Ehrens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:06:21 GMT
Please see the following for the theology of editors:
http://www.dina.kvl.dk/~abraham/religion/
Read and repent!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela)
Crossposted-To:
comp.arch,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.theory,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: Impact of Internet
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:52:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 15 Apr 2001 01:10:42 GMT, Alwyn Goodloe
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The internet, in a short time, has proven to be one of the best
> ways to communicate information ever developed in history. Was
> this why the guys at CERN developed it to begin with. For those of
> us in academic research it has made life much easier.
Sadly one can not always find the resources required in the
"sea of noise". I am not a academic researcher. I am a computer
enthusiast who often needs information on older products. Rarely can I
find the required info without running into HTML hell. or Javascript
fired websites that hate Lynx with a passion. Or to use google and
find bazillions of the same useless info that does not apply to my
needs. Or to find that the info I need is no longer available on the
web or never WAS. When was the last time you searched for a manual for
a Practical peripherals PM144mt external modem? No where to be found
unless one wants to ante up the credit card!
>
> So far most people have been willing to buy on the web only those things that
>they can't get locally or are alot cheaper. So a few botique shops seem to
>thrive but by definition these aren't large and never will be. That leaves
>saving money, the Wall Street Journal and others have been full of stories
>as how difficult it is to sell products alot less than your local retail store.
>Maybe it isn't possible and then the whole idea of shoping via the web was
>just a marketing fantasy that sounded like a good idea at the time. Remember
Unlike the local stores I cannot hold a piece of equipment
that I am considering. I can not look at it closely. There is still a
strong need for physical contact with the product. You mentioned cars.
I cannot drive but... You want to test drive the products before you
buy them. If you are going to your local "Ford" dealership to test
drive a F150 you might as well BUY there as its available right there!
No shipping, No waiting for the car or computer or whatever to be
delivered. No aggrevation of returning an item that does NOT fit or
meet your needs.
I run into this in the computer areas. I wanted a new SCSI
hard drive. Unless I know what type of plug it has (from seeing it in
a local retailer). I may end up buying the Wrong drive type. I mean I
need Scsi-2 50 pin. I don't want a Scsi-2 Wide 68 pin! or a SCA drive!!
Unforcunatly the only drive maker that makes it simple to figure out
what is what is Seagate. I almost gave up on a Quantum purchase as I did
not know what I was looking AT! It was only after I called the company
that I found by talking to a tech that the Quantum IS compatible
(bought two of them). Most people are not going to go through that
much effort to purchase a hard drive! If I priced the drive based on
what I had to deal with in time as well as the cost per megabyte. I
would have rather bought the drive locally. paid the 6.0 % Connecticut
sales tax (it would have been the same as the shipping). With the
ability to return the unit if it did not fit or was defective!
--
B'ichela
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Fun With Old Laptops. (:
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:59:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 15 Apr 2001 03:19:05 GMT, Bloody Viking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yes, but I can only use Xmodem as the term proggie returns an error of "not
>enough memory" to use ZedModem. (zmodem) The laptop has 40M Ram and I have
>Windows 3.1 installed. I already know about sx and sz as I'm a veteran shell
>account user.
Why not use Telix? I used Telix 3.15 and the 3.22 versions
with Zmodem on a XT! it works great. Just drop the windows 3.1 in the
trash on the way out please ;) I mean 40MB of Ram should be MORE than
enough for Zmodem! set up ramdrive.sys and you can stick the extras in
the ramdrive (telix and its guts for example).
--
B'ichela
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From: Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Big Brother Billy does it again!
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:40:18 +0200
Charles Lyttle wrote:
> This is a standard process for MS. Put in a feature to deliberately
> malfunction with competitors products. Hope users get the impression
> that it is the competing product that is bad. Then the competition dies
> and only the MS propritary software is left. I hope they have played
> this game once too often. Your post makes me think they haven't.
They couldnt possible do something like that with MP3. It would certainly
be illegal.
Yes they play that game, but they will not sabotage some competitor that
openly. What i dont understand is why some people here are so concerned
with MS - i think we should ignore them as long as it does not affect us
and do our own thing.
Stuff like this, the new anti piracy scheme in XP/Office/etc and the terms
of usage for Passport are simply wonderfull news for those that use
competitive OS'es. Just let them dig theyr own grave.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Goldhammer)
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:57:17 GMT
On 15 Apr 2001 16:32:06 GMT, Peter da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If Linus had never existed, we'd still be in the same place
>with a BSD instead of a Linux kernel under the hood. I'm not
>saying Linus didn't do an impressive job, but he wasn't
>necessary nor sufficient for the "Linux phenomenon" to
>happen.
I don't think this is true. BSD has been around for
a long time. Despite the excellence of the kernel
(and the whole OS), it hasn't stormed the OS scene
like Linux has. How do we explain this? What did
Linus do that was different from the BSD team? We
could guess and say that he opened up the development
to all hardware platforms. But then again, we already
had extensive support for diverse platforms in NetBSD.
So what is the cause? I would guess it is Linus's
adoption of the GPL. Like it or not, the GPL capures
the imagination and motivation of the masses. Hence
the "Linux phenomenon". It seems to have some mojo
the other licensing schemes lack.
So, although Linus alone wasn't a sufficient cause
of the "Linux phenomenon", he was a necessary one,
in that he took that necessary step of changing the
original Linux licensing terms over to GPL. The rest
is history.
--
Don't think you are. Know you are.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:57:28 -0400
blackboard washer Scott Erb, Bullshit, More Shit, Piled higher and Deeper, wrote:
>
> Walter Daniels wrote:
>
> >
> > The Japanese Government(?) and Japanese business, are so intertwined
> > taht there isd effectively no difference. This due in large part, to
> > their decision after WWII, to "co-ordinate" business policies. There
> > is a ministry, whose name escapes me, that literally controls research
> > and development. No R&D is done, without their permission. IIRC, it
> > also determines what can be imprted/exported.
>
> Which, of course, means you have a state capitalist system, similar in
> ways to authoritarian state capitalist systems in other Asian states, like
> Korea and Taiwan, though each have moved towards democracy, and Japan is
> democratic.
Special prize to the person who can find and explain the largest number
of lies in the previous statement.
Hint hint: Most of them are "false premise" fallacies.
for starters, "State capitalism" is a not just a misnomer, it's goddamned
lie, conjured up for propaganda purposes.
"Professor" Scott Erb DAMN WELL KNOWS IT"S A LIE, but he spews it anyways.
Also, Japan is not a democracy. Clue for the fucking clueless:
Merely holding elections does NOT a democracy make. To be a democracy,
you must institute mob rule. Japan is definitely NOT a mob-rule
society, therefore, it's not a democracy.
>
> None of that suggests Japan is fascist.
Considering that NOTHING in your preceding statement had even the
slightest relationship to fact, it's not surprising that your conclusion
has no relationship to facts, either.
> Anyone who makes that claim is
> ignorant about what fascism is, and engaged in hyperbolic rhetoric that
> creates more heat than light.
1. Was Japan a fascist country in the 1930's
a) no
B) YES
2. Since the 1930', in what way has Japan's economy been re-structured
to remove fascism. Accuracy counts, so be precise.
By the way....Professor...how's it feel to be getting your ass
fucking WHIPPED by someone with no degrees, but a real EDUCATION.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:58:43 -0400
billh wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>
> > > > > I know enough. I know you are a "war-hero" wannabe that lies about
> his
> > > > > accomplishments and awards in the US Army. As far as you are
> concerned,
> > > > > that's all the knowledge anyone needs, KuKuNut.
> > > >
> > > > So says the man who has never recieved combat pay.
> > >
> > > Firstly, you idiotic "war-hero" wannabe, the special pay is called
> "hostile
> > > fire pay" or "imminent danger pay" on the LES (not "combat pay"). Since
> you
> > > claim to have been in a combat zone and drawn this pay you ought to know
> > > this, wannabe. Pathetic, KuKu. Just pathetic.
> > >
> > > Secondly, you have no clue as to how many months I've drawn hostile fire
> > > pay/imminent danger pay, when, or for duty where. Nor do you know in
> which
> >
> > Why don't you enlighten us?
> > Hmmmmmmmm, big boy?
>
> You don't know my size either, "little" man.
ANSWER THE QUESTION!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 14:00:58 -0400
Charles Lyttle wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Mathew wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Jim Richardson wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 03:51:42 GMT,
> > > > silverback, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > > brought forth the following words...:
> > > >
> > > > >On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:24:34 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>Goldhammer wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:33:15 -0400,
> > > > >>> Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > Right. Fascism is characterized by the *state-directed* control of
> > > > >>> >the economy,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hmm. Sounds like communism.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Precisely.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Communism and Fascism are merely different sides of the same coin.
> > > > >
> > > > >bullshit you lying sack of shit. Fascism is the polar opposite of
> > > > >communism. They have nothing in common.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Fascicsm=control by a ruling oligarchy that murders it's population.
> > > > Communism=control by a ruling oligarchy that murders it's population.
> > >
> > > What about Capitalist Fascist dictatorships like the
> > > Philippines,particulary under Marcos.
> >
> > Capitalism and Fascism are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE TERMS, you goddmned fucking moron.
> >
>
> BZZZZT. Wrong. Both the Italian and Spanish Fascist governments were
> very capitalistic. Capital is just one of the Bunds that make up a
> Fascist government. Labor, Church, Military are three others.
Wrong. Free Markets are fundamental to the definition of Capitalism.
Fascism's oppressive state involvement in the economy PREVENTS any
true Free Market...thus, Capitalism and Fascism are mutually exclusive.
Hope that helps, uneducated fool.
>
> Japan and several other Asian/Pacific countries also adopted variants of
> Fascism. In Japan the primary Bunds today are Merchant, Farmer,
> Industry, the Military haveing fallen in disgrace after WWII.
Scott Erb (Professional blackboard washer), are you listening????
>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > wow! no similarity there!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jim Richardson
> > > > Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
> > > > WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
> > > > Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
> >
> > L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
> > can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > K: Truth in advertising:
> > Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> > Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> > Special Interest Sierra Club,
> > Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> > Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> > The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> > Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> >
> > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> > The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> > also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> >
> > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> > challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> > between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> > Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> >
> > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> > premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> > you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> > you are lazy, stupid people"
> >
> > G: Knackos...you're a retard.
> >
> > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> >
> > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> > her behavior improves.
> >
> > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > ...despite (C) above.
> >
> > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> >
> > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> > method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> > direction that she doesn't like.
> >
> > A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
> --
> Russ Lyttle
> "World Domination through Penguin Power"
> The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
> <http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Electric Ninja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Article: Windows XP won't support USB 2.0
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:05:08 GMT
> USB was stupid from the get-go.
Back it up with fact or at least a decent argument bro.
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