Linux-Advocacy Digest #776, Volume #33 Sun, 22 Apr 01 06:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("jet")
Re: What's the point (GreyCloud)
Re: Follow up to Redhat has become Scary? ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Anyone have any stats on how many times RedHat 7.1 is being downloaded?
("Kelsey Bjarnason")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("jet")
Re: What's the point (GreyCloud)
Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1 ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1 ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Aaron Kuklis Arrested! ("Kelsey Bjarnason")
Re: What's the point ("Kelsey Bjarnason")
Re: What's the point ("Kelsey Bjarnason")
Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re: Communism,
Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.) ("Kelsey Bjarnason")
Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM (those who know me have no need of my name)
Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1 ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1 ("Edward Rosten")
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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 02:14:27 -0700
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:58:00 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> >
> > >> > What does this have to do with Linux advocacy? Is Linux, an
> > >> > Is Lamic womans choice of OS?
> > >>
> > >> No, of course not; they're not allowed to make such choices. Linux
for
> > >> women's rights! :)
> > >
> > > Fuck them. They already have too mancy privileges and not enough
> > > responsibilities, you simpering, ass-kissing ninny
> >
> > more anti-freedom rhetoric from anti-freedom Kulkis.
>
> Let's see...
>
> What do you call a system where
>
> Class A has many burdensome restrictions and many responsibilities
> bot Class B, and NO privileges,
>
> while Class B has unlimited freedoms, no restrictions and zero
> responsibilites to Class A
>
>
> That is called FEUDALISM, is it not?
>
>
> Now...look at the society which feminism has made for us.
>
> Class A above is defined as "men"
> Class B above is defined as "women"
>
In your little fantasy world. I have unlimited freedoms and no restrictions?
I can ignore all traffic laws? Too bad the cop that pulled me over didn't
know that. Can I just go into stores and take whatever I want and it's
perfectly legal? Cool! Can I just walk up to any man and start rubbing his
dick? Well, yeah, I probably can. :) Anyway, can you write to my creditors
and let them know I am a woman so they will stop sending me bills?
Thanks.
> So much for freedom and equality.
>
> Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal work is a self
flagellating idiot?
J
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 02:04:29 -0700
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > >
> > > "Roy Culley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > When talking about your file system, there shouldn't be *ANY* bugs.
> MS
> > > is
> > > > > very loathe to make changes to it's file system, and when it does,
> it
> > > spends
> > > > > eons testing them. FAT32 started testing before Windows 95 came
> out,
> > > but
> > > > > didn't actually appear in a product until nearly 2 years later.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any possible bug in your filesystem should scare the living hell out
> of
> > > you.
> > > > > One bug can corrupt your entire disk.
> > > >
> > > > You really are an obstreperous bastard. The reason why reiserfs was
> > > > not incorporated into the first 2.4.0 release was not because of bugs.
> > >
> > > Really? Explain why 2.4.2 has a Reiserfs bug fixed.
> > >
> > > Explain why 2.4.3 has not zero, not one, but THREE bugs regarding the
> > > Reiserfs fixed?
> > >
> > > Explain why 2.4.4 pre-4 has a Reiserfs bug fixed in it so far.
> > >
> > > > SuSE, a major contributor to reiserfs development, has been using it
> > > > on their servers for a long time. They have provided it with their
> > > > distributions for a long time. On the SuSE mailing list many people
> > > > would ask if reiserfs is stable enough. SuSE people themselves replied
> > > > saying they used it on servers with huge partitions and that it was
> > > > rock solid.
> > >
> > > It may be "rock solid" in the vast majority of circumstances, but you
> can't
> > > predict when you will become the exception to the rule.
> > >
> > > > To say that MS is loath to release critical software
> > > > before doing eons of testing has to be one of the biggest jokes
> > > > ever. MS hasn't given a toss about quality until the Internet became a
> > > > big thing. They are now producing a fairly reliable operating system
> > > > but only after the huge embarrassment of so many bugs being made
> > > > public via the Internet.
> > >
> > > MS's file systems have always been rock solid. They take the file
> system as
> > > a very important piece of the puzzle.
> >
> > Oh Really?? Then why do you have run scandisk all the time before doing
> > a defrag??
>
> That's not a bug, its a precaution.
I don't have to do a defrag on a Solaris installation or a Linux
installation.
How bout a concession and say that its not a bug but a bad design then?
>
> > Why does this have to be done once a week at least to keep things on an
> > even keel??
>
> I haven't done it in recent memory on my 98 machine.. at least 9 months..
> maybe a year.
Well, I have to maintain our HP at least once a week or the machine
really starts slogging down badly. If I let it slide into the second
week, then BSODs and freeze ups start in.
>
> > Looks like some bugs to me.
>
> Not bugs at all. Why do you have to fsck after a improper shutdown, is that
> a bug too?
I don't do improper shutdowns.
--
V
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Follow up to Redhat has become Scary?
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:06:41 +0100
> "At a certain point Red Hat will have the market strength and resources
> to either buy or destroy the other Linux distributors. Open Source be
> damned if there is only one player in town."
As well as ignoring curret distributions from other people
, it also ignored Debian which is completely free.
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: "Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone have any stats on how many times RedHat 7.1 is being downloaded?
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 09:07:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "jtnews"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brian Langenberger wrote:
>
>> Of course, RedHat's distribution will also continue to grow ;) But
>> seriously, just transferring the two main binary ISOs across a
>> 100base-T LAN and then burning them to CD took me quite awhile -
>> chances are simply buying the boxed set would be just as cost-effective
>> considering the time I spent.
>
> But you don't need to burn a CD
> at all. I just copy the ftp directories to a local server, make a
> bootnet.img diskette, and then install RedHat off of my local ftp
> server.
>
> When very high speed broadband becomes available, say 10Mbyte/sec, you
> won't have to download anything at all, you just install it directly off
> of an ftp server on the Internet.
Nice in theory, but... :)
I downloaded the ISOs and burned CDs. Moved my SCSI CD into a second
machine so I could install by booting from the CD. Nope, won't boot.
Arrgh.
Okay, so I move the IDE DVD drive over to the second machine, and boot
off that. Yippee! Boots! However, it then proceeds to moan that it
can't find a RedHat CD to load from. Spit and other words.
Fine... drop the ISOs (and base and RPM folders, just for giggles) onto a
local server. FTP in and... nope; doesn't like FTPing that server.
Fine, reconfig to deliver via HTTP - doesn't like that, either.
I'm busily recreating the CDs so I can maybe - just maybe - actually get
the silly thing to install. So far, between downloading, flipping drives
between machines, etc, etc, etc, I've only spent about 7 hours on this.
It's certainly an argument for buying the damned boxed set. :)
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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 02:18:13 -0700
Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:58:00 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > What does this have to do with Linux advocacy? Is Linux, an
> > > >> > Is Lamic womans choice of OS?
> > > >>
> > > >> No, of course not; they're not allowed to make such choices. Linux
for
> > > >> women's rights! :)
> > > >
> > > > Fuck them. They already have too mancy privileges and not enough
> > > > responsibilities, you simpering, ass-kissing ninny
> > >
> > > more anti-freedom rhetoric from anti-freedom Kulkis.
> >
> > Let's see...
> >
> > What do you call a system where
> >
> > Class A has many burdensome restrictions and many responsibilities
> > bot Class B, and NO privileges,
> >
> > while Class B has unlimited freedoms, no restrictions and zero
> > responsibilites to Class A
> >
> > That is called FEUDALISM, is it not?
> >
> > Now...look at the society which feminism has made for us.
> >
> > Class A above is defined as "men"
> > Class B above is defined as "women"
> >
> > So much for freedom and equality.
> >
> > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
>
> Well I would say that it depends on what type of feminism.
> Turn-of-the-century-feminism wasn't as insistent as Steinem-feminism to
> turn women into Oprahized-overemotional blabbering idiots.
>
> Intelligent and successful women are to busy succeeding to vomit forth
> nonsense about how 'oppressed' they are.
>
> I heard some idiotic college professor go on NPR and blab that women
> were under-represented in the computer industry because of...
>
>
Does anyone outside of a college campus take anything non science college
professors say seriously?
> computer games!!! She was claiming that through 'Lara Croft' and the
> like, women were being painted into a 'sex-kitten role' (let's see: a
> woman portrayed as a strong Indiana Jones character who eludes her male
> pursuers... yeah that is oppressive).
Hmmm...doesn't bother me.
J
I wanted to reach through my radio
> and slap her wart-riggen face.
>
> But, of course, such expressions of utter contempt are by and large not
> productive. Better to humiliate her intellectually than to allow myself
> to be portrayed as a reactionary.
>
> --
> - Brent
>
> http://rotten168.home.att.net
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 02:09:20 -0700
Todd wrote:
>
> "Donn Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Todd wrote:
> > >
> > > Welcome to Linux.
> > >
> > > It takes endless hours to do simple things that under Windows is done
> > > automatically.
> > >
> > > And they say it is a conspiracy.
> >
> > Not if you actually know how to USE said operating system (which, in
> > this case, is Linux).
>
> I have RedHat 7.0.
>
> > Windows is a complete joke, my man. You mean you
> > really think that DOS-based piece of crap is better than Linux? LOL!
>
> Hell no... I have almost never used 9x... My path was OS/2 -> NT 3.5/4.0 ->
> Windows 2000.
>
> Never have a really *used* 9x.
Aw Gee... and you missed out on all the fun! Those BSODs and all.
>
> > So, Todd. Are you enjoying the speed and reliability of the excellent
> > FAT filesystem?
>
> I use NTFS 5.0 which supports encryption (128bit) and compression built into
> the filesystem.
>
> > You know, the one that requires weekly defragmentation?
>
> Haven't defragged for a long time. But I guess if I needed to I could
> simply use the built in defrag utility.
>
> > Also, I've read some books on Windows programming. I had to laugh at
> > how you're supposed to code around the numerous problems in Windows,
> > like for example, putting a message loop in your program to allow your
> > app to multitask with other apps better. LOL!
>
> A message loop? Every Win32 program *requires* a message loop to capture
> messages. I don't know how you could write a Win32 windowed application
> without one.
>
> If you are talking about the 'PeekMessage' function, this is really not
> necessary. You could use another thread, for example. Most D3D games use
> PeekMessage to update the 'scene' when there are no events.
>
> If you are programming for the 9x class of OSes, you are right, Windows is
> pretty lame. NT and 2000 are rock solid and work great.
>
> By the way, do you have any references on those Windows programming books? I
> have quite a few programming books on Win32 and have never seen this...
>
> > How come Linux doesn't
> > need this? How come I can format a floppy and do other things in Linux?
>
> Again, I am using Windows 2000... formatiing a floppy is nothing.
> (Actually, my computers don't even have floppy drives :)
>
> > There are better things to judge an operating system on than the endless
> > ease-of-use issues,
>
> But that is what is important to the *vast* majority of computer users.
>
> > because once you've mastered the learning curve of
> > an OS, reliability and performance become the most important issues.
>
> The most important issue for me is being able to run the applications that I
> want to run. An OS is pretty much useless if it doesn't have apps. that
> people want.
>
> > And unix filesystems are better, because your data isn't scattered all
> > over your disk with a linked-list data chain. You've got the inode
> > system with unix filesystems, which is much better than that linked-list
> > piece of crap you call FAT.
>
> Hmmm... benchmarks of Windows 2000 have been pretty good with NTFS. Also,
> since NTFS is journaled, I haven't yet lost a file due to corruption unlike
> under Windows 9x and OS/2. (heh - i always lost the os2.ini file due to
> corruption)
>
> NTFS has been the most reliable FS I have ever used.
>
> -Todd
>
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V
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:11:00 +0100
> I mean, sitting there all day long listening to the
> computer fan while Linux runs and I have no apps to play with doesn't
> exactly give me a woody!
Linus runs Netscape. You can use that do download your p0rn and get your
woody.
> If you are into sitting around listening to a computer fan all day, then
> Linux is for you. If you like hot rodding around with the latest and
> coolest commercial, shareware, and freeware apps, then Windows is the
> only choice!
I am running one of the coolest free things on my computer. It's called
Linux...
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:15:46 +0100
>> > Last I remember, Linus and the rest of the crew are the ones behind
>> > the Engineering. Hmm.......
>> You really don't know what a distro is, do you?
>
> And you don't seem to understand what Engineering is, do you?
Neither would you, or so it seems.
-Ed
--
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: "Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron Kuklis Arrested!
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 09:15:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Matthew Gardiner"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Of course, those people are, generally, the ones running the "advanced"
>> platforms such as Linux, right? :)
>
> What possible benefits does HTML have over normal text? Apart from being
> able to click on a click and the browser automatically loads?
Several, actually, including, for example, some degree of layout control,
the ability to highlight important items, to define headings, etc, etc.
I know, I know, the idea of allowing users to have flexible control over
things like layout and appearance is anethema to the folks who are all
for allowing users to have flexible control over things like OS settings.
Go figger.
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From: "Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 09:29:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bob Hauck"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:31:50 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> So, show me a Linux browser that, when queried, claims to be either NS
>> or IE,
>
> Konqueror and Opera can both do that. Or just use Netscape. Are you
> saying your bank won't work with 4.77? Seems a bit odd that they
> wouldn't support a browser with the share that NS 4.7 still has. Maybe
> you need to find a smarter bank.
No, the bank wouldn't work with Konqueror - KDE's default browser choice.
The bank works with, IIRC, NS 4.x and later. This, however, is not what
comes up by default when firing up links. Annoying.
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From: "Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 09:32:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bob Hauck"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:55:18 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Note I said "a document". Mailing labels require some fancier layout
>> controlling. Fine, call it a half hour? You think they could learn
>> Linux system administration in a half hour? Or a half a week, even?
>
> Do you think they could learn W2K system administration in a week?
Nope - nor should you have to. I'm not saying that W2K, or any flavour
of Windows, has achieved perfection in user experience. However, W2K and
WinME _in general_ seem to be easier for John Q. Public to get up and
running, so while they're far from perfect, they're at least better.
Linux may _stay_ up and running better... but that assumes you can get it
there in the first place, and it's nowhere near as friendly for
installing and subsequently using software.
>> And how much more useful still, a combination oven and fridge, with
>> built in computer control, which could simply be told "I need veal
>> cordon bleu, for six, with tarragon peas, roast new potatoes, and a
>> cherry pie for dessert, dinner to be ready at 7PM, dessert to be ready
>> at 8PM" and let the machines figure it out - right down to the point of
>> noting "Whoops, your cheese has spoiled and you're out of peas; shall I
>> place an order for these items for you?"
>
> Sounds good to me, but how do I prevent my kid from ordering dinner for
> his sixteen friends while I'm gone?
Parental controls, maybe, like you might have on assorted channels on
your TV?
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From: "Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why left-wing communist assholes hate Reagan. (was Re:
Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 09:43:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:58:00 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>> > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>
>> >> > What does this have to do with Linux advocacy? Is Linux, an Is
>> >> > Lamic womans choice of OS?
>> >>
>> >> No, of course not; they're not allowed to make such choices. Linux
>> >> for women's rights! :)
>> >
>> > Fuck them. They already have too mancy privileges and not enough
>> > responsibilities, you simpering, ass-kissing ninny
>>
>> more anti-freedom rhetoric from anti-freedom Kulkis.
>
> Let's see...
>
> What do you call a system where
>
> Class A has many burdensome restrictions and many responsibilities bot
> Class B, and NO privileges,
>
> while Class B has unlimited freedoms, no restrictions and zero
> responsibilites to Class A
>
>
> That is called FEUDALISM, is it not?
>
>
> Now...look at the society which feminism has made for us.
>
> Class A above is defined as "men"
> Class B above is defined as "women"
>
> So much for freedom and equality.
>
> Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
Are you seriously suggesting that the feminist viewpoint is the promotion
of the ideal that women should have all freedom, no restriction and no
responsibility?
Yeesh. You need to get out more. You've been cooped up with Archie
Bunker too long.
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From: those who know me have no need of my name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
gnu.emacs.help,alt.religions.vim,alt.religion.emacs,fj.editor.vi,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM
Date: 22 Apr 2001 08:53:42 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> divulged:
>dd if=/dev/hda | sed -f sedscriptfile | dd of=/dev/hda
a script file? surely you'd type the script.
dd if=/dev/hda | sed -f /dev/tty | dd of=/dev/hda
--
okay, have a sig then
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:50:48 +0100
> I would never say linux is 'useless'.
true.
> It *is* hard to learn, and not organized very well.
untrue. It's fine to learn. And once you've learned it, it is a hell of a
lot easier to use.
> Yes. But why would you want to use the CLI anyway?
It's fast and efficient. It's nuch faster to type pan or xv or gimp than
to navigate through 4 levels of menus to find a program. In fact, I have
an xterm swallowed by one of those FVWM2 modules, so I always have a
terminal which ever desktop I am on.
how would you do something like:
ls *.wav | sed -e's/sox & -r44100 -c2 &.cd' | sh
in a GUI? It converts all wav files in a directory to CD quality ones. It
took about 20 seconds to type. How long would that take in a GUI? Longer
than 20 seconds. I do stuff like that all the time. It would take lot
longer in a GUI.
> Funny. A CLI is
> simply a text based GUI.
er....?
> The Windows 2000 server resource kit give one
> almost every tool necessary for CLI work anyway... never used it though.
So M$ finally realised that a CLI was a very good thing to have. Well,
they took their time.
> Just use terminal services for remote admin. Works great.
Great! Just like ssh+X.
>> Can you get any
>> good documentation with windoze?
>
> Sure. It is fully indexed and very easy to use.
I tried using 'soze documentation once. It was useless. I haven't tried
it in Win2K, though.
>> At least I can type "info rm" and get a
>> FULL DETAILED discription of usage and envocations for the command!
>> Have you tryed "help fdisk" in windoze?
>
> The correct CLI syntax is to put a /? at the end of the command. If you
> want a lot more detailed help, there is always 'help' on the start menu.
> I know that may seem unintuitive to the linux community :)
So you keep having to jump out of hte CLI.Now that is a pain.
>> Argue as you will but Linux has taken my blood and I shall give
>> my
> energy
>> to the revalotuion.
>
> You may want to get a spell checker someday also :)
ispell.
-Ed
--
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u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 13:00:07 +0100
>> This is just a load of bollocks. Linux r00lz and that is that.
>
> Well let's take a look...
I'm looking.
>> I had use windows from 3.0 and I am now 18. It tokk me hardly anytime
>> to learn how
> to
>> use linux and I have now dumped windows all together.
>
> You may be computer literate. Millions more are not and need an
> easy-to-use system.
>
> So for those people, Linux does not 'r00lz'.
Looks liek you have trailing z. BTW for millions, windows does not r00l
either, its just what people are used to.
>> Safe behind my stateful filewall that is built into the kernel.
>
> A firewall on the same machine you are protecting? Security experts
> would say that is not a good setup.
Give him a break. He's 18 and probably doesn't have the $$$ or space to
have 2 computers. For 1 computer, it's the best you can do.
>> Knowing that the most any virus can do to my machine is damage my users
>> area.
>
> Most viruses aren't that simple... they embed themselves and eventually
> when you switch to root... *boom*
Not if you're semi vigilant. Such as logging on as root from a console or
typing /bin/su or only running dodgu scripts from a temp user.
>> But also knowing that I will not lost data because this is backed up
>> using a cron job in the
> middle
>> of the night.
>
> That's easy for most OSes to do... ever checked out backup on 2000? A
> lot more options than a simple backup with Cron.
Bullshit! Come on, cron can run an arbitraty program. You can't get more
options than that. It is *fully* programmable.
>> Knowing that if I need to know about a command I can type info
>> <command>.
>
> Again, if this impresses you, I can see why you like Linux. Almost all
> OSes had some form of primitive CLI help such as 'info'.
Have you ever used info?
> I prefer the additional fully searchable MS help system with contents,
> index and full-text search. Very cool. And, it is the same across
So? Info can do that.
> every app. so you don't have to learn a different help system when using
> different tools/apps./whatever.
Can you then turn the windows help files in to a beautifully typeset (tm)
document, typeset as well as most professional books? Thought not.
>> And if I can't find out what i need to know from the info on my box
>> then I can ask on the web becasue of the linux comminty.
>
> Yes, the internet is a nice place - lots of knowledge. There are a
> zillion groups for Windows as well...
Yep. Just reboot %-)
>> Know ing that my data is safe from back doors in software that is
>> closed source.
>
> Obviously, since you are using an 'Open Source' product. But what about
> 'back doors' or bugs in Linux that haven't been found?
looks liek speculation to me...
> My favorite was the Red Hat Linux version that had a one character
> password access to root. Heh.
Which was that? It was earlier than 5.2 since none since then have let
that happen.
-Ed
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