Linux-Advocacy Digest #788, Volume #33           Sun, 22 Apr 01 19:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Y'all should be happy about this (or maybe not, I dunno) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (Nigel Feltham)
  Re: Y'all should be happy about this (or maybe not, I dunno) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Red Hat has become scary? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (GreyCloud)
  Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (Nigel Feltham)
  Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (Nigel Feltham)
  Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (GreyCloud)
  Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Y'all should be happy about this (or maybe not, I dunno)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:53:17 -0400

Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > mmnnoo wrote:
> > >
> > > The article says in 2000 Gates at 53 billion and donated 1 million.
> > > Gee, 1 million is alot - unless you have another 52.999 billion left.
> > > A million is 1/1000 of 1 billion, so percentagewise that's the equivalent
> > > of someone who'd managed to save up 1 million giving away 20
> > > in a year.  I'm not saying 1 million isn't alot to donate, it's just
> > > amazing how much 50 billion is.
> >
> > Not only that, but, he violates the first rule of charity...
> > drawing attention to himself and his donations
> >
> > Oh...and most of those donations....are nothing more then Windows CD's.
> 
> I would be more impressed if Bill Gates didn't insist during interviews
> on highlight how much he had donated.  If he was a truly caring person
> he wouldn't need pair recognition.

Exactly.  TRUE charity is requires the absence of fanfare.

Gates is merely trying to buy sympathy.



> 
> Matthew Gardiner
> --
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> 
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> 
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> 
> The best of German engineering, now in software form


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:07:29 +0100

> 
> You do attract a lot of spam that way. I'm in the position to know since
> I use my real email addy too (silly me).
> 

Yes - If onty one in 100 of those get rich quick chain letter emails worked 
and I was stupid enough to reply to them then I would probably be a 
millionaire by now.



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Y'all should be happy about this (or maybe not, I dunno)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:54:41 -0400

At150bogomips wrote:
> 
> Three points:
> 1) It is also useful to take calculate the donation as a percentage of
> discretionary income.  Discretionary income (income after mandatory
> expenses--tithe (for Jews/Christians/Muslims), taxes, food, clothing, shelter,
> et al.) is generally a smaller portion of total income for lower income persons
> (unless the tax rates are extremely high).
> 
> 2) Generating publicity for a donation can be non-selfish if it is intended to
> draw attention to the need and/or the charitable organization.
> 
> 3) When the donation is MS software (which has negligible incremental costs),
> the valuation becomes suspicious.  Furthermore, should not _educational_
> computers include a compiler (or at least PERL cgi-bin tools).  This is also
> questionable in that it tends to encourage usage of the software more
> effectively than an equivalent expenditure on advertising.

Precisely.  All of his "donations" are mere chicanery for the purpose of
extending the monopoly even farther.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:57:56 -0400

GreyCloud wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > GreyCloud wrote:
> > >
> > > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "B. R. Ivy" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone out there think that Red Hat is moving towards a proprietory 
>OS?
> > > > > > > I really appreciated the way that RH 7.0 installed but it almost seemed 
>too
> > > > > > > slick.  And now they want to bundle in the way too pretty Nautilus GUI 
>with
> > > > > > > 7.1.   I'd hate to wake up five years from now with another Microsoft on 
>the
> > > > > > > horizon. Ideas? Opinions?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Randall Ivy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The difference is that there are alternatives, such as SuSE Linux, and
> > > > > > Mandrake.  I find it rather humourous that Sepo's don't know any
> > > > > > products made outside the US.  Mention the words SuSE, SAP or Baan and
> > > > > > you get blank faces, mention software such as Jade and there is even
> > > > > > more blank faces. What the heck is wrong with people? Its like during
> > > > > > the 70s, the quality of US cars were going further down hill, whilst the
> > > > > > Japanese made cars were superior and cheaper, yet, no sepo's bought
> > > > > > them. Is that xenaphobia at the extreme?
> > > > >
> > > > > No...just illogical arrogance based on an irrational form of nationalism.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's one thing to be proud of your country...it's yet another to assume
> > > > > that all foreigners are inferior.
> > > > > That's what got Germany, and Japan, and eventually the Soviet Union in 
>trouble.
> > > >
> > > > Hell yes. But atleast you don't see Germany or Japan trying to be the
> > > > world policeman. They have learnt their leason.  However, US still
> > > > haven't learnt it, even with all the nut cases out there wanting to blow
> > > > up US government buildings.  You only need to look at the US's
> > > > involvement in Somalia to show how arrogance + ignorance = disaster.  It
> > > > is one thing helping a country, it is another thing to tell a country
> > > > what to do.  However, what I can say, is, the Soviet Union was the first
> > > > to develop biological weapons, with the first one being developed, one
> > > > carrying a antibiotic resistant strain of the smallpox virus.  The US
> > > > said it was impossible, the Soviet Union proved them wrong.  The US had
> > > > one space station, the Soviety union threw up 5 into orbit.  Little
> > > > facts most people in the US fail to comprehend, that there is NO ONE
> > > > country that has contributed to human technological advance, but many,
> > > > and until this happens, the rampant arrogance will continue to grow.
> > > >
> > > > Matthew Gardiner
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> > > >
> > > > If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> > > >
> > > > Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> > > >
> > > > The best of German engineering, now in software form
> > >
> > > Actually a lot of americans ask this same question... why us?
> > > (policemen)  The corruption is so deep and wide spread that its no
> > > wonder when an american goes overseas for a vacation that we get spit
> > > on.
> >
> > If you're getting spit on, then you're doing something wrong.
> 
> I was wearing an Army uniform at the time enroute from Panama thru
> Gautamala to L.A.
> I guess I did stick out like a sore thumb.

You're kidding.  Every SEADA briefing I've had tells us to ALWAYS
travel in civilian clothes, unless travelling on government transport.
[And even then, it depends...]



> 
> >
> > Most Americans, when they travel overseas, stick out like a sore
> > thumb...and then make things even worse by antagonizing the locals.
> >
> > Here are the rules for Americans travelling overseas
> >
> > 1. DRESS LIKE THE LOCALS.  Be a bit conservative.  Unless you're going
> >         to the Carribean to smoke some ganja, LEAVE YOUR DAY-GLOW
> >
> >         "I'M WITH
> >           STUPID
> >             -->"
> >
> >          T-SHIRTS AT HOME.
> >
> > 2.  Keep your voice low.  Whenever I'm overseas, Americans are VERY
> > easy to spot...they are the ONLY ones holding a conversation in a
> > public place at the top of their voice, as if they're trying to
> > shout over a night-club sound system.
> >
> > 3.  Most American women on vacations are either obese, and look like
> > a bag of shit, or dress like sluts.
> >
> > Seriously...the next time you're on vacation, sit in your hotel
> > lobby for about 30 minutes, and play "Spot the American"
> >
> > You'll discover in no time that most Americans on vacation are
> > despised because they make utter and complete asses of themselves.
> >
> > They usually have ZERO understanding of where they are.  They
> > haven't studied the local langauge in the slightest...most don't
> > even bother to learn how to count in the local language, let alone
> > how to conduct simple transactions (like getting a taxi ride) in
> > the local language.
> >
> > Additionally, they never bother to understand the local culture.
> > Understanding local customs, and what locals consider to be
> > insulting behavior, is VERY crucial to staying in the good graces
> > of the people around you.  Remember, you are IN THEIR CITY...
> > and most of the time, IN THEIR **NEIGHBORHOOD**....therefore, you
> > are probably within a few hundred meters of their children.
> >
> > >      Its really sad that we have no control over them.  Its like it
> > > doesn't matter anymore at the voting booth.
> >
> > 100 years of "lesser of two evils" voting mentality.
> >
> > Voting for the "lesser evil" is STILL voting for evil.
> >
> > Do the right thing, and vote libertarian.
> >
> > > --
> > > V
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:59:45 -0700

Chad Myers wrote:
> 
> "mmnnoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7KHE6.75389$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <3ae31a96$0$2383$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jon Johansan"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Wade Blazingame" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:33AE6.6699$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >>
> > >> > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
> > >>
> > >> Not sure what vnunet is, but the fact that it got through a
> > >> 20-paragraph review of Windows XP without a SINGLE MENTION of product
> > >> activation, which has been one of the most hottest issues surrounding
> > >> XP, is a clear tip-off that someone at vnu loves MS.
> > >
> > > You should read more of vnunet - they cover every major OS and are
> > > DEFINATELY no fan of MS.
> > >
> > > However, product activation in XP is ONLY an issue with those that
> > > intend to bootleg it. It is of NO issue whatsoever to those that
> > > purchase legitimate copies.
> > >
> > > I've been working with the beta and it continues to amaze me how many
> > > people have the operation of activation completely and categorically
> > > wrong. I'll repeat: product activation is ONLY a concern to those that
> > > bootleg XP - it means nothing to legitimate users. (small tidbit pirates
> > > already know: enterprise versions of XP come with a "magic" key that
> > > bypasses activation).
> > >
> >
> > Well, it is not a concern to me, but only because I will definitely
> > never buy XP.  Firstly, linux meets all my needs other than
> > video games.
> 
> So your needs are a mostly unusable OS with half-baked apps and
> a buggy, if not completely broken UI? Cool!
> 
> > Second, I haven't bought any MS OS since Win '95,
> > so I've fallen off the upgrade treadmill and it would cost a fortune
> > to get back on.
> 
> Poppycock. You've obviously never tried NT or let alone Win2K, so you
> really don't know what your talking about. Win9x sucks, big time. NT
> and 2K are far superior to anything else out there on the market,
> includig previous MS oses. You so realize that NT/2K are of a completely
> different code base and are not the Win16-based crap that Win9x, are,
> right?
> 
> > Third, I've reinstalled my copy of Win '95 probably
> > 10 or 15 times since I got it, due to hardware upgrades, drive
> > repartitioning, and, most of all, Windows inevitably falling apart
> > after installing and uninstalling a few too many prorams.
> 
> Right, and this is why Win9x sucks. Win2K doesn't have this problem.
> 
> -c

How much does it cost to buy Win2K today???

-- 
V

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From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:14:06 +0100

Karel Jansens wrote:

> mmnnoo wrote:
> > 
> > Okay, okay, we get it already - you're trolling.
> > 
> 
> Not even that.
> The Troll-O-Meter <TM> didn't even wobble.
> The "Little-Punk-On-Weekend-Without-Homework"-O-Meter <TM> blew off the
> scale, however.
> 

The "dopehead who's seen too many bill&tead / waynesworld type movies but 
doesn't know shit about computers" meter has launced it's needle into orbit 
too.



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From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:15:56 +0100

Edward Rosten wrote:

> > Will Win2k allow for arbitrarily large scaling?  Linux can work on a
> > dinky little 386 with 4 megs of memory (granted, it can't do much) all
> > the way to gigantic iron: an IBM S/390 system.
> 
> And up from the big iron like the S/390 in to clusters in the top 500.
> 

That must be an old list there - isn't it now high up the top 10 ( isn't 
there a linux cluster at around number 4)?



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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:01:27 -0700

Karel Jansens wrote:
> 
> mmnnoo wrote:
> >
> > Okay, okay, we get it already - you're trolling.
> >
> 
> Not even that.
> The Troll-O-Meter <TM> didn't even wobble.
> The "Little-Punk-On-Weekend-Without-Homework"-O-Meter <TM> blew off the
> scale, however.
> 
> > In article <9btjab$n5v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Hullo"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > It is incredibly excellent dude. You know it, I know it. It rocks.
> > >
> > >
> > > "The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > > message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Hullo
> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>  wrote
> > >> on Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:01:48 +0100
> > >> <9bslgm$jp8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >> >It's great.
> > >>
> > >> That's not horribly specific.  What, precisely, is it that you like
> > >> about Win2k that wasn't available in NT4, Win98SE, or WinME? How about
> > >> competitive products such as RedHat, Mandrake, Debian, SuSE, and
> > >> Slackware, all of which are Linux-based? Will Windows XP "rock" even
> > >> more, even though, in the opinion of this poster, it looks like
> > >> something more suitable for Fischer-Price than Microsoft?  Do we really
> > >> need giant-sized idiot-proof icons?
> > >>
> > >> (At one point, NT was touted as "the most reliable operating system"
> > >> or some such -- and then Win2k came out as "the even more reliable
> > >> operating system".  Bizarre.)
> > >>
> > >> Will Win2k allow for arbitrarily large scaling?  Linux can work on a
> > >> dinky little 386 with 4 megs of memory (granted, it can't do much) all
> > >> the way to gigantic iron: an IBM S/390 system.  It can also work on a
> > >> lot in between -- I have a version installed on an older model SPARC,
> > >> for example; it also supports PPCs, Amigas, Ataris, and Macs. HP is
> > >> reputed to be working on, or at least lending support to, a version for
> > >> their PA RISC line.  I suspect Sun might be at least studying it, with
> > >> an eye towards improving Solaris. It's even possible Solaris code might
> > >> make its way into Linux.
> > >>
> > >> And with such things as KDE and Gnome, Linux et al has a number of
> > >> choices of pretty GUIs -- and the Linux ones tend to be more useful, if
> > >> one has half a clue.  Or one can roll one's own, albeit that takes a
> > >> bit of work.  (I'll admit I'm weird; Athena looked extremely ugly but
> > >> was reasonably easy to work with. Modern variants have improved on its
> > >> appearance, though.)
> > >>
> > >> Oodles of software exist for Linux, much of it in source form. Not sure
> > >> how many more oodles exist for Linux, and whether there's more for
> > >> Linux or for Windows -- one difference I do note is that Linux software
> > >> always has source if it's free, whereas Windows software usually gets
> > >> just an .EXE or a .DLL.  At least, that's my impression.
> > >>
> > >> Some of it is even useful -- in fact, a lot of Linux freeware is
> > >> useful.  One example: PostgreSQL, a full-featured relational database.
> > >> Another is Gnumeric, a Gnome spreadsheet. Still another is Lyx (a
> > >> front-end to TeX or LaTeX, which are both extremely competent
> > >> typesetting packages).
> > >>
> > >> So...again...what was it about Windows 2K you liked so much?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here EAC code #191
> > >> 5d:16h:56m actually running Linux.
> > >>                     We are all naked underneath our clothes.
> > >
> > >
> 
> --
> Regards,
> 
> Karel Jansens
> ==============================================================
> "You're the weakest link. Goodb-No, wait! Stop! Noaaarrghh!!!"
> ==============================================================

LOL!!  There are a lot of teenagers that don't do any homework.  At
least not the ones that I've seen around here.  They seem to be awake
all night long doing mischeif.

-- 
V

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:03:55 -0400

jet wrote:
> 
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:01:19 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:17:32 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > >> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Never been in Saudi Arabia, have you, so please keep your ignorant
> > > >> > stereotypes to yourself.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm not invoking "ignorant stereotypes", I am quoting what I believe
> is
> > > >> a fairly good source.
> > > >
> > > > Well, considering that I ***LIVED*** In Saudi Arabia for a year, I say
> > > > that your source is full of shit.
> > >
> > > You've found very little in the way of flaws in my source.
> >
> > I don't need to "find" the flaws...they are self-evident from my own
> > PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF LIVING IN SAUDI ARABIA FOR A YEAR
> >
> > >                                                            All you've
> done
> > > is dispute the assertions I've made about clothing. Note that the
> document
> > > I cited acknowledges that westerners are not as restricted in terms of
> > > clothing.
> > >
> > > But many of the points still stand. Are women allowed to drive, or leave
> > > the house without a male relative ?
> >
> >
> > What about it?
> 
> I'll take that to mean "no".
> 
> >
> > They get many privileges, and many restrictions
> 
> No amount of "privileges" could make up for a restriction like that!
> 
> I know you wish American women had those kinds of restricions. Too bad,
> bitter boy.
> 
> >
> > In contrast, in the United States, we have stripped all of men's
> > privileges, and all of womens' restrictions, giving us a society
> > where men have all the responsibilities and restrictions, and women
> > have all of the privileges.
> >
> 
> Really? Cool! Where is this "United States". I'd like to move there.
> 
> > In other words...FEUDALISM.
> >
> >
> >
> > American women are allowed to drive, go out of the house unescorted,
> > and run off with 50% of a man's wealth PLUS a substantial sum of
> > 2 decades of his future earnings, all by getting pregnant by
> > Dangerasshole, but designating Mr. High Achiever the father on
> > the birth certificate.
> 
> Bitter boy myth.
> 
> >
> > The primary reason why male/female relationships in the United States
> > are in such a sorry state is entirely due to the fact that feminism
> > tipped the delicate balance of power from level
> 
> How was being denied access to education that lead to higher paying jobs and
> being paid less for the same work "level"?
> 
> to anti-male in
> > every respect
> >
> 
> Translation: Aaron hates feminism because it gave women the power to turn
> down his advances.


So, you're saying that without hysterical Feminism, such a right
would not exist...

Hey, Jet, See lines (C) and (D)


> 
> J

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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