Linux-Advocacy Digest #795, Volume #33 Mon, 23 Apr 01 04:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. ("jet")
Re: Buy Microsoft stock!!! ("Adam Warner")
Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1 ("pookoopookoo")
Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! ("pookoopookoo")
Re: What to do with Bill Clinton (was Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism))
(Ace Agincourt)
Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1 ("pookoopookoo")
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. (Stephen Morgan)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft ("Patrick Logan")
Re: What's the point (GreyCloud)
Re: What's the point (GreyCloud)
Re: Why linux is good and a complaint about RedHat (GreyCloud)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (GreyCloud)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Boris Dynin")
Re: Red Hat has become scary? (GreyCloud)
Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (Nils Zonneveld)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Todd")
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From: "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 23:26:35 -0700
Kelsey Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:TYNE6.11541$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [snips]
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > Hey, Jet, See lines (C) and (D)
>
> Just for giggles, let's do that...
>
> > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newsgroup to newsgroup
> > ...despite (C) above.
>
> Hmm; there is no (C) above. There's one below, though. I'm sure a
stunning
> intellectual such as yourself would have noticed that and corrected it
long
> before now, though, right?
LOL. On top of that, I think I have posted replies to Aaron in a grand total
of 3, count 'em, 3 newsgroups. (Cross posts don't count.)
>
> > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
I said it wasn't permanent. 30 days, IIRC, and Aaron has been on about it
for years.
>
> See? (C) is below (D). Not above. It's not a difficult thing.
Seems to be for Aaron.
J
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From: "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Buy Microsoft stock!!!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:13:59 +1200
In article <CazE6.8183$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am looking for a new computer and found that Dell have a decent price
> on PIII boxes (Dimension L system). I choosed configuration for
> hardware, but it showed that the only OS I can get with this
> configutation is WinME. I don't want WinME - so called DELL and asked if
> I can get Linux RH instead. "No problem" - answered sell representative,
> and calculated that that the same configuration with Linux will be about
> $200 more expensive. He gave me some vague explanation why - but the
> fact is that if you want to buy Linux from DELL, it is cheaper to pay
> for Win system and to install Linux by yourself. So Microsoft have a
> great case - you can buy Linux from DELL.
There's another possibility (no idea whether it is true):
If you want Redhat they might replace some of the components with superior
alternatives, such as a hardware based modem instead of a "winmodem".
If this is the case, asking for no OS to be installed wouldn't be a good
idea since they might be sending you Windows-only hardware.
Regards,
Adam
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From: "pookoopookoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 02:19:43 -0400
> However, with activation codes, MS is re-introducing price into
> the picture.
This just means that we'll all have the corporate version with the security
ripped out of it. Don't kid yourself. So instead of this:
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {TLC;RETAIL} (Win98; U)
Your messages will say this:
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {TLC;RETAIL} (WinXP; U)
> And that will be their downfall.
> Hhehehe
Well, no, you'll be using it for sure right? Well, believe me, you won't be
the only one.
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From: "pookoopookoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 02:21:50 -0400
> Nope, they have to use vi.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
lol, You tell'im Matt! That fuckin' wussy. Send 'im home with a rupture =)
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From: Ace Agincourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What to do with Bill Clinton (was Re: OT: Treason (was Re:
Communism))
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 07:22:58 +0100
Hi Aaron,
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:18:06 -0400,
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
? Ace Agincourt wrote:
? >
? > Hi Aaron,
? >
? > On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:41:38 -0400,
? > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
? > put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
? >
? > ? Ace Agincourt wrote:
? > ? >
? > ? > Hi Aaron,
? > ? >
? > ? > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:17:06 -0400,
? > ? > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
? > ? > put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
? > ? >
? > ? > ? Ace Agincourt wrote:
? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > Hi Aaron,
? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:58:02 -0400,
? > ? > ? > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
? > ? > ? > put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? Ace Agincourt wrote:
? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > Hi Aaron,
? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:02:49 -0400,
? > ? > ? > ? > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
? > ? > ? > ? > put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > ? Ace Agincourt wrote:
? > ? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > Hi Aaron,
? > ? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:22:12 -0400,
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
? > ? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? Ace Agincourt wrote:
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > Hi Don,
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > On 21 Apr 2001 01:26:52 GMT,
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:11:05 +0100, Ace Agincourt wrote:
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > Hi Roberto,
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ?
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > Serbia was at war with the Kosovas. Are you claiming that
the mass
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > murders did not occur.
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ?
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? They are mass *murders* only if they are war *crimes*, ie
they are
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? unlawful even in the context of war. Are you claiming the
mass murders
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? were not war crimes ?
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > Should, then, Lord Walworth have been tried for war crimes
after he
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > murdered Wat Tyler? Who would have intervened in England's
private
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > affairs?
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ?
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > Also, Hitler went to war against the Jews.
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > Are you a holocaust denier?
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ?
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? The NAZIs were tried as war *criminals*, meaning their
killings were found
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? to be unlwaful.
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > Under whose authority? Should Bill Clinton be forced to stand
trial
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > for his war crimes: the bombing of a Sudanese Pharmaceutical
plant and
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ?
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? Yes.
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ?
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? He should also be put on trial for Treason.
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ?
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > ? And sentanced to hanging by his testicles.
? > ? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > ? > Don't you think hanging by testicles is too good for him?
? > ? > ? > ? > ?
? > ? > ? > ? > ?
? > ? > ? > ? > ? That depends on whether you tie a noose around his testicles...or use
? > ? > ? > ? > ? 300-pound test fishing line, stitched THROUGH his testicles.
? > ? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > ? > Wouldn't the line just pull through, leaving him writhing on the floor
? > ? > ? > ? > in agony until he dies?
? > ? > ? > ?
? > ? > ? > ? Yeah....so?
? > ? > ? >
? > ? > ? > Just thought you may be able to come up with something better.
? > ? > ?
? > ? > ? You know something more agonizing than hanging by 300-pound test
? > ? > ? fishing line sewn through your testicles until the fishing line
? > ? > ? finally abrades it's way through your tissues and you fall on
? > ? > ? the floor head first?
? > ? > ?
? > ? > ? If you do, then I would certainly hate to be you.
? > ? >
? > ? > Didn't you read my description of the Wire Jacket and Death by a
? > ? > Thousand Cuts?
? > ?
? > ? Ok...we can combine the two.
? >
? > I just love it when a compromise can be reached. Something these army
? > guys are incapable of. With them it's just win or die, and always,
? > without exception, they die.
?
? That's why I, even when I was a mere PFC, have held more ACTUAL power
? and responsibility than officers such as Bill Hudson.
I can well believe it. These guys just don't know when to stop.
Best wishes, Ace.
====================
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
>From this day to the ending of the world.
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From: "pookoopookoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 02:24:05 -0400
This is not a flame! Dammit, now my asbestos underwear are starting to chafe
and itch!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Morgan)
Crossposted-To: soc.men
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 06:24:27 GMT
In soc.men, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:01:19 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:17:32 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > >> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Never been in Saudi Arabia, have you, so please keep your ignorant
> > >> > stereotypes to yourself.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not invoking "ignorant stereotypes", I am quoting what I believe is
> > >> a fairly good source.
> > >
> > > Well, considering that I ***LIVED*** In Saudi Arabia for a year, I say
> > > that your source is full of shit.
> >
> > You've found very little in the way of flaws in my source.
>
> I don't need to "find" the flaws...they are self-evident from my own
> PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF LIVING IN SAUDI ARABIA FOR A YEAR
>
> > All you've done
> > is dispute the assertions I've made about clothing. Note that the document
> > I cited acknowledges that westerners are not as restricted in terms of
> > clothing.
> >
> > But many of the points still stand. Are women allowed to drive, or leave
> > the house without a male relative ?
>
>
> What about it?
>
> They get many privileges, and many restrictions
>
> In contrast, in the United States, we have stripped all of men's
> privileges, and all of womens' restrictions, giving us a society
> where men have all the responsibilities and restrictions, and women
> have all of the privileges.
>
> In other words...FEUDALISM.
You obviously have very little idea of how the feudal system worked.
--
Working Class
The proletariat so beloved of Marx and Engels are still alive and well and
living in vast areas of terraced housing in the major industrial cities. Alf
Garnett was their hero and he was adopted by US TV and renamed Archie Bunker.
They dislike foreigners, toffs and anything new. They watch the telly, go
down the pub, watch the match on Saturday and go to spain to get drunk. They
fight our wars and fight at football matches. Not a pretty sight.
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From: "Patrick Logan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 06:43:04 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Very good. Now...name one piece of Microsoft code that didn't
> originate in ANOTHER company.
Microsoft Bob?
The paper clip?
The blue screen of death?
--
Patrick Logan
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:00:48 -0700
Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bob Hauck"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:55:18 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Note I said "a document". Mailing labels require some fancier layout
> >> controlling. Fine, call it a half hour? You think they could learn
> >> Linux system administration in a half hour? Or a half a week, even?
> >
> > Do you think they could learn W2K system administration in a week?
>
> Nope - nor should you have to. I'm not saying that W2K, or any flavour
> of Windows, has achieved perfection in user experience. However, W2K and
> WinME _in general_ seem to be easier for John Q. Public to get up and
> running, so while they're far from perfect, they're at least better.
> Linux may _stay_ up and running better... but that assumes you can get it
> there in the first place, and it's nowhere near as friendly for
> installing and subsequently using software.
>
John Q. Public does not have a clue on how to install windows.
My neighbor had a hard drive failure. After I helped him put in a new
hard drive, he couldn't re-install windows and the associated vendor
drivers to get it fully working.
I had to do it for him. There were several CDs and most of them weren't
just "pop into the CD-ROM drive and let it do its thing" trick. It was
worse because of the lack of any documentation for this particular brand
of computer, Quantex, and its associated hardware. Eventually, we
installed Linux to see if he liked it or not. Mikey liked it.
> >> And how much more useful still, a combination oven and fridge, with
> >> built in computer control, which could simply be told "I need veal
> >> cordon bleu, for six, with tarragon peas, roast new potatoes, and a
> >> cherry pie for dessert, dinner to be ready at 7PM, dessert to be ready
> >> at 8PM" and let the machines figure it out - right down to the point of
> >> noting "Whoops, your cheese has spoiled and you're out of peas; shall I
> >> place an order for these items for you?"
> >
> > Sounds good to me, but how do I prevent my kid from ordering dinner for
> > his sixteen friends while I'm gone?
>
> Parental controls, maybe, like you might have on assorted channels on
> your TV?
--
V
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:07:17 -0700
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >> > Windows is a complete joke, my man. You mean you
> >> > really think that DOS-based piece of crap is better than Linux? LOL!
> >>
> >> Hell no... I have almost never used 9x... My path was OS/2 -> NT
> >> 3.5/4.0
> >> -> Windows 2000.
> >>
> >> Never have a really *used* 9x.
> >
> > Aw Gee... and you missed out on all the fun! Those BSODs and all.
>
> Don't pity him too much. There's plenty of BSOD's to go around in WinNT
> and 2K.
>
Oh, I'm sure there is. :-)) But with Win98 or WinMe he could see them
much more often.
> -Ed
>
> --
> You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
>
> u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k
--
V
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why linux is good and a complaint about RedHat
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:11:39 -0700
Bob Hauck wrote:
>
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 07:05:40 GMT, Ace Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm contemplating moving over to SuSE from Caldera only because it's
> > taking Caldera so long to put out a real distribution with 2.4.
>
> Caldera's new release is in open beta. They have always waited a while
> before jumping on the new stuff. One of the features they sell is _not_
> being on the bleeding edge. "Linux for Business" and all that.
>
I'd have to agree with that part in regards to Caldera... they've always
been conservative. But even with their 2.4 OpenLinux version, there are
a few minor issues.
I used their WebMin administration tool. Nice. Calderas' one last
problem is to provide another CD full of more apps like Suse does.
> --
> -| Bob Hauck
> -| To Whom You Are Speaking
> -| http://www.haucks.org/
--
V
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:16:38 -0700
Bob Hauck wrote:
>
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:46:06 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> [NAMBLA]
>
> > > What has a group of sick weirdos have to do with legal sexual relations
> > > between two people of the same sex?
>
> > Because they think that your young lad is fair game and also think that
> > it should be made legal.
>
> Maybe now would be a good time to point out how many heteros are charged
> with child molestation every year. Most of them think your young lass
> is fair game and it should be legal. Does that have anything to do with
> the discussion, or is it just a diversion?
>
No, no diversion. Since another brought it up, and was aired on FOX
news network, I added what I have heard from FOX.
> --
> -| Bob Hauck
> -| To Whom You Are Speaking
> -| http://www.haucks.org/
--
V
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From: "Boris Dynin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:21:24 -0700
> Then why do my IIS 5.0 servers crash regularly? If I didn't have a
> third party load balancer avoiding the ones that decided to pop
> up a dialog box (from a service???) instead of restarting after
> a crash they would be down much of the time. They are just
> doing xsl transformations with Microsoft's msxml3.dll.
>
> Les Mikesell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This problem can be solved easily by writing a simple program in VB or C++.
Have your watchdog service enumerate windows on the screen once in every
several seconds. If message box window is found, emulate OK click.
Boris
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:23:33 -0700
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> GreyCloud wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > GreyCloud wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "B. R. Ivy" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does anyone out there think that Red Hat is moving towards a
>proprietory OS?
> > > > > > > > I really appreciated the way that RH 7.0 installed but it almost
>seemed too
> > > > > > > > slick. And now they want to bundle in the way too pretty Nautilus GUI
>with
> > > > > > > > 7.1. I'd hate to wake up five years from now with another Microsoft
>on the
> > > > > > > > horizon. Ideas? Opinions?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Randall Ivy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The difference is that there are alternatives, such as SuSE Linux, and
> > > > > > > Mandrake. I find it rather humourous that Sepo's don't know any
> > > > > > > products made outside the US. Mention the words SuSE, SAP or Baan and
> > > > > > > you get blank faces, mention software such as Jade and there is even
> > > > > > > more blank faces. What the heck is wrong with people? Its like during
> > > > > > > the 70s, the quality of US cars were going further down hill, whilst the
> > > > > > > Japanese made cars were superior and cheaper, yet, no sepo's bought
> > > > > > > them. Is that xenaphobia at the extreme?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No...just illogical arrogance based on an irrational form of nationalism.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's one thing to be proud of your country...it's yet another to assume
> > > > > > that all foreigners are inferior.
> > > > > > That's what got Germany, and Japan, and eventually the Soviet Union in
>trouble.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hell yes. But atleast you don't see Germany or Japan trying to be the
> > > > > world policeman. They have learnt their leason. However, US still
> > > > > haven't learnt it, even with all the nut cases out there wanting to blow
> > > > > up US government buildings. You only need to look at the US's
> > > > > involvement in Somalia to show how arrogance + ignorance = disaster. It
> > > > > is one thing helping a country, it is another thing to tell a country
> > > > > what to do. However, what I can say, is, the Soviet Union was the first
> > > > > to develop biological weapons, with the first one being developed, one
> > > > > carrying a antibiotic resistant strain of the smallpox virus. The US
> > > > > said it was impossible, the Soviet Union proved them wrong. The US had
> > > > > one space station, the Soviety union threw up 5 into orbit. Little
> > > > > facts most people in the US fail to comprehend, that there is NO ONE
> > > > > country that has contributed to human technological advance, but many,
> > > > > and until this happens, the rampant arrogance will continue to grow.
> > > > >
> > > > > Matthew Gardiner
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> > > > >
> > > > > If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> > > > >
> > > > > Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> > > > >
> > > > > The best of German engineering, now in software form
> > > >
> > > > Actually a lot of americans ask this same question... why us?
> > > > (policemen) The corruption is so deep and wide spread that its no
> > > > wonder when an american goes overseas for a vacation that we get spit
> > > > on.
> > >
> > > If you're getting spit on, then you're doing something wrong.
> >
> > I was wearing an Army uniform at the time enroute from Panama thru
> > Gautamala to L.A.
> > I guess I did stick out like a sore thumb.
>
> You're kidding. Every SEADA briefing I've had tells us to ALWAYS
> travel in civilian clothes, unless travelling on government transport.
> [And even then, it depends...]
>
Didn't exist in 1968. I was briefed, then, by the State Dept. and I was
told it was safe. It was safe, spit don't hurt. Just didn't know that
it was going to happen then. When I got back, I reported it to S-2. I
also went by commercial air as I was paying for it out of my own pocket,
vacation. All I had on me was the ok to go on vacation.
After that the Gov. chartered commercial air flights and scheduled
vacations when it was available. But when I changed duty stations I had
to go by MAC.
I'd suppose that things were starting to change.
> >
> > >
> > > Most Americans, when they travel overseas, stick out like a sore
> > > thumb...and then make things even worse by antagonizing the locals.
> > >
> > > Here are the rules for Americans travelling overseas
> > >
> > > 1. DRESS LIKE THE LOCALS. Be a bit conservative. Unless you're going
> > > to the Carribean to smoke some ganja, LEAVE YOUR DAY-GLOW
> > >
> > > "I'M WITH
> > > STUPID
> > > -->"
> > >
> > > T-SHIRTS AT HOME.
> > >
> > > 2. Keep your voice low. Whenever I'm overseas, Americans are VERY
> > > easy to spot...they are the ONLY ones holding a conversation in a
> > > public place at the top of their voice, as if they're trying to
> > > shout over a night-club sound system.
> > >
> > > 3. Most American women on vacations are either obese, and look like
> > > a bag of shit, or dress like sluts.
> > >
> > > Seriously...the next time you're on vacation, sit in your hotel
> > > lobby for about 30 minutes, and play "Spot the American"
> > >
> > > You'll discover in no time that most Americans on vacation are
> > > despised because they make utter and complete asses of themselves.
> > >
> > > They usually have ZERO understanding of where they are. They
> > > haven't studied the local langauge in the slightest...most don't
> > > even bother to learn how to count in the local language, let alone
> > > how to conduct simple transactions (like getting a taxi ride) in
> > > the local language.
> > >
> > > Additionally, they never bother to understand the local culture.
> > > Understanding local customs, and what locals consider to be
> > > insulting behavior, is VERY crucial to staying in the good graces
> > > of the people around you. Remember, you are IN THEIR CITY...
> > > and most of the time, IN THEIR **NEIGHBORHOOD**....therefore, you
> > > are probably within a few hundred meters of their children.
> > >
> > > > Its really sad that we have no control over them. Its like it
> > > > doesn't matter anymore at the voting booth.
> > >
> > > 100 years of "lesser of two evils" voting mentality.
> > >
> > > Voting for the "lesser evil" is STILL voting for evil.
> > >
> > > Do the right thing, and vote libertarian.
> > >
> > > > --
> > > > V
> > >
> > > --
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > > ICQ # 3056642
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
> can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
--
V
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From: Nils Zonneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:25:51 +0200
Nigel Feltham wrote:
>
> > On the issue of GUI's: once you've worked on Mac, you even dare to call
> > the X-windows junk that ships with Linux a GUI.
> >
>
> You mean the X-windows system that lets you run code on any Unix machine
> and display it's output on any computer that has graphics capability - the
> 2 machines don't even need to be in the same country. Lets see your Mac do
> this then.
Wow fantastic features! But how useful? Certainly useful in a number of
situations, but on an average desktop it's nothing else but bloat. And
bloat is really an issue with X-windows, it's incredibly slow.
> How do you change the window manager on a mac then - Linux GUI can be made
> to look like windows, mac os, nextstep or many other variations to suit the
> user or task ( I use KDE for browsing the web - for other tasks I select
> other systems depending on my current mood).
'Look' like is is not the same as 'feel' like. A lot of details in such
windowmanagers just don't work the way they suposed to and you never get
it quite right. Drag and drop in X-Windows is a drag. KDE is a windows
look-a-like but manages to be even clunkier than the MS Windows GUI.
Don't get me wrong, I admire what the people of KDE and Gnome are doing,
they get even more out of X-Windows than I ever expected them to do, but
it's still bloated and clunky.
> Why restrict yourself to one
> look & feel - what's good for photo editing is not necessarily good for
> word-processing, etc.
>
Why take a not so good imitation when you already have the real thing?
Furthermore a GUI is not something you just 'tweak' and create on the
spot. Building a good GUI is a science on its own. And how many people
want to redefine 'their' GUI everytime they log into another computer?
> As to mac GUI compared to Linux GUI's, if this is true then why is the Mac
> version of Linux so popular?
Probably to make useful servers out of outerwise outdated hardware. Or
just out of sheer boredom :-)
Regards,
Nils Zonneveld
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:29:02 +0800
Reply-To: "Todd" <todd<remove>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Karel Jansens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Are you Todd Kepus?
Yes.
-Todd
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Karel Jansens
> ==============================================================
> "You're the weakest link. Goodb-No, wait! Stop! Noaaarrghh!!!"
> ==============================================================
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