Linux-Advocacy Digest #806, Volume #33 Mon, 23 Apr 01 09:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Intel versus Sparc ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Red Hat has become scary? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: SQL Server sales up 44% in Q1 (mlw)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Bud Frawley)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Linux advocates posting from Windos 98 (what to do with them) (Donn Miller)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Roberto
Alsina)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Intel versus Sparc (Donn Miller)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (Roberto Alsina)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Intel versus Sparc
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:10:21 -0400
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> Just want to share a recent experience.
>
> A fellow on another project was having trouble getting
> this C code to work. It was supposed to accept
> some geographical mapping data and do some work with
> it, generating a data file. It would crash.
>
> Couldn't even compile this C code under the free
> Borland 5.5 compiler.... However, it would compiler
> with our installation of C++ Builder 4, which uses
> a slightly earlier version, Borland 5.4. We could
> see that the code crashed at the start of a particular
> function. We saw some odd stuff in the assembler
> code, so suspected a compiler bug.
>
> We downloaded the mingw32 version of gcc, and got
> the code to build. It still crashed. I even
> went as far as to build it for Linux -- a core
> dump resulted.
>
> Figured it couldn't be compiler bugs! After some
> more dicking around with cleaning up some of
> the myriad of warnings, I noticed that the
> bad function was pushing an array of structures
> onto the stack. Looking at the size of the array,
> found it was 64 Mb!
That's what happens when people insist on passing
programmer-defined data structures onto the stack
rather than passing pointers.
>
> At that point, we realized that the Intel platform
> was the cause of the trouble (not to mention the
> dumb way of allocating/using such a large buffer).
> The code had been originally developed on a SparcStation.
>
> So, be careful about thinking PC's are the best
> things around, just because they are much more
> powerful than they used to be.
>
> Chris
> --
> "Where do you want to hang today?"
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:13:02 -0400
MH wrote:
>
> "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
> > > >
> > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal work is a
> > > self
> > > > flagellating idiot?
> > >
> > > No, just any man who marries one.
> > >
> >
> > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the same as a
> man
> > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
> >
> > LOL.
> >
> > J
>
> Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal pay.
But try to find a woman who TRULY does equal work...like coming in early,
or staying late, as needed. Or going out of town on a business trip
on short notice....or transferring half way across the country (or
even to an office 20 miles farther from her house).
Quite frankly...there are reasons why the STATISTICAL AVERAGE for
women's pay is so much lower than men...they refuse to go to the
same lengths that men will to *EARN* it'
> The point I was making, my opinion obviously, is that a man is a
> "flagellating idiot" if he were to marry a feminist.
> Get it now?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:16:49 -0400
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> > It's merely an excuse politicians use, to motivate the public, when
> > it's convenient.
>
> Hence the reason I have no time for the "free Tibet" crowd and other
> sandal and sock wearing pseudo intellectuals, yet another group I would
At least the pseudo-intellectual Birkenstock crowd is now protesting
AGAINST a communist government, rather than agitating on behalf of
one like they usually do.
> send off to a "re-education camp" to finally give there lives some
> meaning.
If you look at it, it's all about vanity for them...trying to make
themselves look good, and justify their conceited view of just how
wonderful they are compared to the peers whom they look at down
their noses.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
> --
> Disclaimer:
>
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
>
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
>
> The best of German engineering, now in software form
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: SQL Server sales up 44% in Q1
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:25:07 -0400
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > >
> > > "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > I have yet to see a convincing case for Microsoft SQl. If you need big
> and
> > > bad,
> > > > you go oracle. If you want simple and small, you go mysql, if you want
> > > > midrange, go Postgres.
> > >
> > > What do you call *OWNING* almost all of the top TPC benchmark scores?
> >
> > TPC is practically meaningless for evaluating one component in a system.
> The
> > TPC benchmarking system is very largely dependent on hardware and
> > configuration, on top of that it is not a benchmark applied by a neutral
> > entity. The systems are tweaked and hacked until they can do no better. To
> > submit benchmark, one must be a member, and pay $1,500 per year. Since not
> just
> > anyone can submit a benchmark, it is not a representative sample of all
> the
> > reasonable alternatives.
>
> Many of the benchmarks are on equivelant hardware. And you don't think the
> people that lost out didn't tweak things themselves?
That is clearly untrue. If you go to the site and look at the results, you will
see each is on clearly different hardware. And all the MS-SQL systems that made
it in the top spots were clusters.
>
> > However, if you look at the TPC-C benchmarks, and select "non-clustered"
> > results, MS-SQL isn't even on the page, and if you look at the MS SQL
> clusters
> > that do have top-10 performance they are huge clusters.
>
> I don't know if this is true or not, but if it is, it is irrelevant. You
> stated quite specifically:
>
> "I have yet to see a convincing case for Microsoft SQl. If you need big and
> bad, you go oracle. If you want simple and small, you go mysql, if you want
> midrange, go Postgres."
It is COMPLETELY relevant, clusters are more complex and harder/more expensive
to manage. This extra overhead is not calculated in the TPC.
>
> Are you now changing your tune to say "Well, if you want big and bad, then
> MS SQL makes sense"?
No, because MS-SQL requires more resources than does oracle or other big names
to get equivalent performance. When you want "big and bad" mS-SQL isn't even in
the running, even on the TPC.
>
> Your argument was not that MS-SQL doesn't do well in smaller shops, but that
> there is no case where SQL server does better than anyone else. That is
> clearly wrong based on the benchmarks. And before you go off bitching about
> how poor benchmarks are, remember that Oracle does the exact same things
> that MS and anyone else does. If they could achieve a higher score, they
> would.
The argument is that the TPC benchmarks are not a fairly administered level
playing field test. If someone were allowed to publish a REAL benchmark. i.e.
oracle, postgres, ms-sql, informix, sybase, etc on identical hardware running
identical tests (modified for the various minor differences in the systems, of
course) then it would be meaningful. Both Microsoft and Oracle prohibit
publishing benchmarks without prior consent.
The is also a "member's only" club. Not just anyone can publish results. You
must pay $1,500 each year to be a member, and it does not seem to provide any
real benefit.
Lastly, it requires a lot of money in time and resources to make a really fast
TPC setup, and many vendors will not do this because they understand how
meaningless it is.
I don't know of any serious dba that takes the TPC with anything but a grain of
salt.
[snipped]
> > If you need to scale, REALLY scale, you will avoid MS-SQL and go with
> Oracle,
> > or even DB2. MS-SQL can't hold a candle to these systems. If you need a
> > moderate size database, you can go with Postgres for a tpc
> price/performance
> > that is practically infinite. If you need simple small, mysql.
>
> You haven't provided any proof of these statements. Provide some recent
> benchmarks that you feel support your claim.
Microsoft prohibits the publication of benchmarks, so you won't find them
easily. However, greatebridge did some interesting benchmarks last year that
more or less agree with this, they had to omit the vendor name, and use only
the version number, but one can safely assume which databases were used.
>
> > > > What value, over the above listing, does MS SQL bring to the table
> that
> > > the
> > > > above does not?
> > >
> > > Vastly superior cost of ownership.
> >
> > MS-SQL can't scale up, and there are low/no cost alternatives in the MS
> market.
> > What "superior cost of ownership?"
>
> That's what the TPC measures. How much it costs.
No TPC measures the cost/performance of systems submitted by member
organizations, as submitted by the member organization. No entity calculates
this information in an unbiased way for public evaluation, because many SQL
vendors prohibit benchmarking.
--
I'm not offering myself as an example; every life evolves by its own laws.
========================
http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: Bud Frawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 07:29:25 -0500
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:13:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis said...
> MH wrote:
> >
> > "jet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:9c06um$1o3m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:vEFE6.1319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >
> > > > > > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal work is a
> > > > self
> > > > > flagellating idiot?
> > > >
> > > > No, just any man who marries one.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Any man who marries a woman who thinks she should get paid the same as a
> > man
> > > for the same work is a self flagellating idiot?
> > >
> > > LOL.
> > >
> > > J
> >
> > Pay is not the issue. I've no problem with women getting equal pay.
>
> But try to find a woman who TRULY does equal work...like coming in early,
> or staying late, as needed. Or going out of town on a business trip
> on short notice....or transferring half way across the country (or
> even to an office 20 miles farther from her house).
>
> Quite frankly...there are reasons why the STATISTICAL AVERAGE for
> women's pay is so much lower than men...they refuse to go to the
> same lengths that men will to *EARN* it'
LOL!!!!! I guess you just proved your not a manager! when my cousin got
promotyed to manager in his company he showed me the pay list! there was
2 different pays 1 for men 1 for women! men got paid $13.00 an hour when
women got paid $9.00 an hour for the same shift! I told him it's not fair
and they should pay the same so he filed an greavence. they said no way.
he quit that job in a hurry! I bet they stop laughing when I call feds on
this one! they offered him mney to keep quiet but I said no way I'm
keepiung quiet! this is gonna hit the papers when I start talking!
>
>
> > The point I was making, my opinion obviously, is that a man is a
> > "flagellating idiot" if he were to marry a feminist.
> > Get it now?
>
>
>
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:31:11 +1200
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> >
> > JS PL wrote:
> > >
> > > "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> > > > JS PL virtually setting the US as the defacto standard of what other
> > > > government departments are running as an OS. I personally couldn't care
> > > > less what happens in the US. SO much money is wasted yetit is never seen
> > > > as a big issue, hence, whether the DOJ uses Windows or not issue another
> > > > non-issue. If the DOJ use Linux they would been seen as biased towards
> > > > Linux and alternative OS's, and if they ran Windows, there would be a
> > > > big "Microosft" conspiracy, hence, the DOJ are damed if they do and
> > > > damed if they don't.
> > >
> > > The DOJ or any government agent would never load Linux on a PC. That would
> > > ruin their false stance that MS is a monopoly. Even though they could run
> > > it, they won't. What Microsoft should do is offer to buy the new and more
> > > sane panel of judges both knind of OS's on a dual boot machine and see which
> > > one (as consumers) they choose to boot into most often. Load both OS's up
> > > with the exact same applications, Office for windows, Star Office for Linux
> > > as well as a host of other apps which mirror each other in functionality on
> > > each OS. I gurantee the Judges will conclude that Windows is in use by 98%
> > > solely because of quality. And after six months of using their choice I'm
> > > sure they will have chosen to boot into Windows ohh....Id say....98% of the
> > > time!
> > >
> > > Microsoft posseses an "advantage" not a "monopoly".
> > They are a monopoly, go back to College and repeat economics again.
> >
>
> You're making the mistake of assuming the JS PL ever attended college
> in the first place.
I mean college, aka High School, not College as in University.
Matthew Gardiner
--
Disclaimer:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:38:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 07:45:20 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Patrick Logan wrote:
>>
>> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>> in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >
>> > Very good. Now...name one piece of Microsoft code that didn't
>> > originate in ANOTHER company.
>>
>> Microsoft Bob?
>>
>> The paper clip?
>>
>> The blue screen of death?
>
>
>Very good. Now....name one piece of HIGH QUALITY Microsoft code
>that didn't originate in ANOTHER company?
Excel?
--
Roberto Alsina
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:40:20 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,soc.men
Subject: Re: Linux advocates posting from Windos 98 (what to do with them)
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> Wrong. I love women in General.
I find US Army General women to be a little too tough to handle
sometimes, however...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:42:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 01:03:12 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mathew wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, GunnerĐ wrote:
>>
>> > Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Slavery;child labour
>> > As opposed to a 16 yr old working at Burger King?
>>
>> A 16 year old at Burger King, where they can only work part time,is
>> hardly comparable to 12-14 hour work days of children as young as 6.
>
>In some parts of the world, such work is FAR more useful to the child
>than any high-end education (when living in a 3rd-world shithole,
>lessons on astrophysics are....a luxery. Food on the table is a
>necessity. Hope that helps).
There's a wide spectrum between no education and astrophysics.
And if you work 12 hours a day at a back-breaking job when you are
a kid, you don't get any education.
--
Roberto Alsina (who has seen kids aged 6 work 12 hours a day)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:44:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:44:43 GMT, MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
>> >>
>> >> Any man who thinks a woman should be paid the same for equal work is a
>> >self
>> >> flagellating idiot?
>> >
>> >No, just any man who marries one.
>>
>> You prefer to marry women that get paid less? Why?
>
>less chance of divorce
What's the difference between being married to someone who is just
scared of being too poor if she/he divorces, and hiring a hooker?
--
Roberto Alsina
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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:46:07 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Intel versus Sparc
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Figured it couldn't be compiler bugs! After some
> more dicking around with cleaning up some of
> the myriad of warnings, I noticed that the
> bad function was pushing an array of structures
> onto the stack. Looking at the size of the array,
> found it was 64 Mb!
Probably need a bigger heap size, or something.
> At that point, we realized that the Intel platform
> was the cause of the trouble (not to mention the
> dumb way of allocating/using such a large buffer).
> The code had been originally developed on a SparcStation.
Sure it wasn't because your code was too closely tied-down to the
architecture in question? Like, for example, SPARCs are big-endian vs.
Intel, which is little-endian.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:46:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ace Agincourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi Roberto,
>
>On 22 Apr 2001 18:33:20 GMT,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
>put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
>
>? Ace Agincourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>? >Hi Roberto,
>? >
>? >On 21 Apr 2001 17:58:20 GMT,
>? >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
>? >put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
>? >
>? >? Ace Agincourt wrote:
>? >? >Hi Roberto,
>? >? >
>? >? >On 20 Apr 2001 18:40:28 GMT,
>? >? >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
>? >? >put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
>? >? >
>? >? >? billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>? >? >? >
>? >? >? >"Roberto Alsina"
>? >? >? >
>? >? >? >> You apparently don't know what absurd means.
>? >? >? >> You say it's not murder because it's not unlawful, right?
>? >? >? >
>? >? >? >No. I said killing in war is not murder, is not unlawful, is not immoral,
>? >? >? >and is not unethical.
>? >? >? >
>? >? >? >You chose to believe that means I said, "it's not murder because it's not
>? >? >? >unlawful." Something I've never said
>? >? >?
>? >? >? Murder is by definition unlawful. Therefore, if you say killing at war
>? >? >? is not unlawful, the alleged lawfulness of the killing is sufficient
>? >? >? cause for the killing not to be murder.
>? >? >
>? >? >
>? >? >Serbia was at war with the Kosovas. Are you claiming that the mass
>? >? >murders did not occur. Also, Hitler went to war against the Jews.
>? >? >Are you a holocaust denier?
>? >?
>? >? I see you joined late, so my position, by reading only the above,
>? >? could be misunderstood.
>? >?
>? >? I personally believe any killing not in self defense, including
>? >? killing at war, should be considered murder. I was only taking
>? >? Billīs position to one of its many unpleasant logical outcomes.
>? >
>? >
>? >So you think a man who throws a young child on an unexploded hand
>? >grenade, to save himself, has committed no crime, moral or legal?
>?
>? No, I think he is stupid and a murderer.
>?
>? Stupid because thatīs a silly way to try to save yourself from a
>? grenade (Itīs probably faster to try to jump away or throw the
>? grenade instead).
>
>
>So a man who throws himself onto a grenade, lobbed into a football
>stadium, is being stupid, not a hero, as it's a silly way to save
>others' lives.
No, that guy is a hero... as long as the grenade was actually going
to hurt someone. Apparently you see no difference between harming
others and harming yourself?
>? A murderer because he was not being attacked by the kid, so it
>? is not self defense.
>
>He was acting to defend his life. That's self defense.
Bzzt. Nope. Self defense has limits. You can not kill yourself
in self defense, either.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:47:32 +1200
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Patrick Logan wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> > in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > Very good. Now...name one piece of Microsoft code that didn't
> > > originate in ANOTHER company.
> >
> > Microsoft Bob?
> >
> > The paper clip?
> >
> > The blue screen of death?
>
> Very good. Now....name one piece of HIGH QUALITY Microsoft code
> that didn't originate in ANOTHER company?
>
Xenix?
Matthew Gardiner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: 23 Apr 2001 12:48:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
billh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Roberto Alsina"
>
>
>> >Interesting. So you belive that a soldier that initiates a contact with
>> >the enemy in a war and kills said enemy in the process is a murderer.
>> >Does that mean he also has to be tried for war crimes?
>>
>> No, I think he should be tried for murder.
>> Of course if he is defending himself from an agression it
>> may count as self defense.
>
>And if that soldier's nation is the aggressor and wins the war, there will
>not be a trail.
So? There still should be a trial.
> It's the world's reality vs. your fantasy.
Apparently your mental process is so limited that you can not imagine
a situation where what happens is not how things should be.
--
Roberto Alsina
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