Linux-Advocacy Digest #965, Volume #33 Thu, 26 Apr 01 22:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Windows 2K is crappy: a couple of examples (Terry Porter)
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. (GreyCloud)
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. (GreyCloud)
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. (GreyCloud)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Douglas D. Anderson)
Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised (GreyCloud)
Re: Baseball (GreyCloud)
Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are liars. ("billh")
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (GreyCloud)
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Chad Myers")
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (GreyCloud)
Re: Blame it all on Kulkis, er, Microsoft (GreyCloud)
Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1 ("Paolo Ciambotti")
Re: Blame it all on Kulkis, er, Microsoft (GreyCloud)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (GreyCloud)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (GreyCloud)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (GreyCloud)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (GreyCloud)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (GreyCloud)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Chad Everett)
Re: A real programming language for Linux: Smalltalk (Terry Porter)
Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (Nigel Feltham)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Windows 2K is crappy: a couple of examples
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 25 Apr 2001 11:11:25 GMT
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:24:45 -0500, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9c2a0m$caf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:_%0F6.9473$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > "Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > > Moved the CD-RW drive to a SuSE 7.1 Linux box and with a few easy
>> > > and well documented permission settings on a device file and I've
>> > > got a CD-RW drive that normal users can use to create CDs.
>> >
>> > Well documented? About as well documented as the Windows settings to do
>> the
>> > same thing.
>>
>> *How * can I do the same thing with Windows 2000?
>
> I've already said how in another post.
>
> 1) Run the program as administrator from your user account.
> 2) Give the user the user rights to load and unload device drivers.
Your kidding right ....?
Give the user the rights to load and unload device drivers ???
Doesnt this compromise the system security not to mention its stability ?
>
>
>
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Kind Regards
Terry
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:02:54 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
>
> Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> >>
> >> >> And I was under the impression in the cases of questionable
> >> >> paternity that a DNA sample could be demanded.
> >>
> Aaron> Nope. Paternity is still judged on English common law: whoever
> Aaron> the mother CLAIMS is the father *IS* the father, until proven
> Aaron> otherwise.
> >>
> >> Can you cite a single state that has a law like this?
>
> Aaron> All 50, as they have no statutory law to supercede the common law.
>
> You failed to provide a single citation.
>
> Aaron> Hope that helps, leftist feeb.
>
> Please name a leftist position of mine.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Andrew Hall
> (Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
He doesn't need to. Ever hear of "Common Law Wife"??
Get used to it.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:06:34 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Aaron> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> > >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:22:26 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > >> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> > >> > The Scene:
> > >> > A delivery room, where some bed-hopping slut has just borne the
> > >> > demon spawn of her most recent DangerAsshole...
> >
> > >> I don't sleep with "bed-hopping sluts". Nice try.
> >
> > Aaron> You need not sleep with a bed-hopping slut for her to name YOU
> > Aaron> the father of the demon spawn of the incarcerated DangerAsshole
> > Aaron> whos actually did the act.
> >
> > Aaron> Hope that helps.
> >
> >
> > >>
> > >> >Doctor: Miss....who is the father?
> > >> >
> > >> >BHS: Donovan Rebbechi.
> > >>
> > >> I'd nail her for fraud.
> >
> > Aaron> How?
> >
> > Aaron> The mother has custody. And in most states, the mother is allowed
> > Aaron> to DENY the collection of any DNA sample from the child, so any
> > Aaron> challenge to paternity becomes significantly more expensive.
> >
> >
> > If the mother is claiming paternity, and the alleged father denies it,
> > the mother has to draw the DNA to prove paternity.
> >
> > I would like to see a singe cite for the mother being able to asset disputed
> > paternity with no recourse for the alleged father.
> >
> > But, knowing you, and your refusal to back your words, I will
> > not hold my breath.
>
> um, don't look now but there is a post regarding this as we speak 'non biological
>father
> has to pay child support' or words to that affect.
> >
> >
Not in the state of Washington. Have you heard of the Mary Latorneau
case? She was a high school teacher that was married. The high school
student screwed her and she had his child. DNA was used to prove he was
the father. Her husband was very glad and divorced her.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:07:26 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Aaron> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> > >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:22:26 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > >> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> >
> > >> > The Scene:
> > >> > A delivery room, where some bed-hopping slut has just borne the
> > >> > demon spawn of her most recent DangerAsshole...
> >
> > >> I don't sleep with "bed-hopping sluts". Nice try.
> >
> > Aaron> You need not sleep with a bed-hopping slut for her to name YOU
> > Aaron> the father of the demon spawn of the incarcerated DangerAsshole
> > Aaron> whos actually did the act.
> >
> > Aaron> Hope that helps.
> >
> >
> > >>
> > >> >Doctor: Miss....who is the father?
> > >> >
> > >> >BHS: Donovan Rebbechi.
> > >>
> > >> I'd nail her for fraud.
> >
> > Aaron> How?
> >
> > Aaron> The mother has custody. And in most states, the mother is allowed
> > Aaron> to DENY the collection of any DNA sample from the child, so any
> > Aaron> challenge to paternity becomes significantly more expensive.
> >
> >
> > If the mother is claiming paternity, and the alleged father denies it,
> > the mother has to draw the DNA to prove paternity.
> >
> > I would like to see a singe cite for the mother being able to asset disputed
> > paternity with no recourse for the alleged father.
> >
> > But, knowing you, and your refusal to back your words, I will
> > not hold my breath.
>
> um, don't look now but there is a post regarding this as we speak 'non biological
>father
> has to pay child support' or words to that affect.
> >
> >
Also, Mary Latorneau did prison time for molesting a minor!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas D. Anderson)
Crossposted-To: soc.singles,alt.linux,alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: 27 Apr 2001 01:09:53 GMT
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:50:27 +0200 (CEST),
Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>CareBear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Boy, I love this discussion. It must be one of the funniest I've ever
>> witnessed:). God praise Nomen Nescio for advocating His two best
>> creations, the hate of homosexuals and Windows in such a delightful way!
>> (Yes, I'm atheist, and yes, that was sarcasm.)
>
>hate of homosexuals existed long before i ever started posting
>as for windows, well
>i've said too much already
You say this, but do you know it for a fact?
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft should be feared and despised
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:16:21 -0700
Macman wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Marx was a genius, intuiting truths about the human experience which
> > were quite original.
>
> Marx was a moron. Complete, unadulterated moron.
>
> For example, Marx' theory holds that the only value that an item of
> commerce has is the labor that went into it. Productivity--irrelevant.
> Quality--irrelevant. Innovation--irrelevant. Value = some constant times
> the number of hours of labor.
>
> Even the most flaming liberal ought to see the flaw in that theory. For
> example, a worker operating high speed machinery (which costs millions
> of dollars) could produce a chair in 10 minutes. It would take me 10
> hours to produce the same size chair, although since I'm a lousy
> woodworker, the chair would probably collapse the first time you sat on
> it.
>
> According to Marx, my chair is worth 60 times as much as the
> machine-produced chair.
>
> Nonsense.
Actually, that's an excellent point!
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:14:05 -0700
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >> Look at the type of people who buy Microsoft products, normally those
> >> who are easily ammused by programs like "when animals attack" or "when
> >> building collapse".
> >
> > Hey! I used to watch "When Buildings Collapse" and I don't buy microsoft
> > products (I was doing a cource on civil engineering at the time,
> > though).
> >
> > -Ed
> >
> LOL! forgot, and those sort of MS software buyers also live in a trailor
> park because they spent the good part of there savings on buying Microsoft
> software thinking there were giving their children a head start.
>
Whats worse is that all trailer parks are located in the paths of
tornados. :-)
> Matthew Gardiner
>
> --
> Disclaimer:
>
> I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>
> If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
>
> Running SuSE Linux 7.1
>
> The best of German engineering, now in software form
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.military.folklore
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are liars.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:21:51 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > Do you agree with the observation that Germans, Japanese, North
Koreans,
> > > Chinese, Viet Cong, and North Vietname regulars shot at American
medics
> > > properly identified, according the the Geneva Convention, with
red-cross
> > > insignia on their uniforms, helmets, vehicles and facilities.
> > >
> > > A) yes
> > > B) no.
> >
> > C) Who gives a shit other than the KuKuNut?
>
> Translation: Bill Hudson admits that Aaron is right, and that Bill
> Hudson, Dave Casey, V-man, and Redc1c4 were lying.
Not quite; however, I'll again admit you're a liar and a "war-hero" wannabe.
Try to impress some teenagers with your BS lies. They're the only ones
foolish/ignorant enough to believe your BS. Perhaps you can tell them all
about the "strategic airlift C130's" you posted about in another thread.
LOL!!!
Stay here in uma, and I'll just continue to embarrass you each time you post
another of your idiotic "facts" about the military. You continue to prove
that you are ignorant of most thing military and that you are a liar. It is
you, KuKuNut, that has no credibility.
You are dismissed.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:22:02 -0700
Jerry Coffin wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> [ ... ]
>
> > AT&T (multi-platform OS,
>
> MULTICS predates UNIX. Though AT&T was one of the contributors to
> MULTICS, they didn't originate it. IBM had a number of multi-
> platform OSes prior to MULTICS anyway.
>
> > Texas Instruments (first IC chip)
>
> And contrary to your statement below, the first microcontroller as
> well.
>
> > Intel (first Microprocessor)
> > MIT (share your code with your friend (original "hacker")/Open Source culture)
>
> Nonsense. Ward Christen (an IBM employee) was giving XMODEM away
> when RMS was still just an obnoxious, pretentious loudmouth. Oh wait
> -- RMS is an obnoxious pretentious loudmouth to this day...
>
> > MOSTEK (microcontroller)
>
> Not so. This originated at TI, largely by a guy named Gary Boone.
> It was argued for years (in court) but MOSTEK wasn't in the running
> in any case -- the choice was between TI and a guy who had a patent
> on a computer system, that he later rewrote to include wording saying
> the system would be built on a single chip. The courts noted that
> there was no indication that he'd even contemplated that part until
> after TI did it, so they ruled that TI had rights to it.
>
> > DEC (standardization of the 8-bit byte as the standard base memory unit)
>
> What DEC computer used 8-bit bytes before the IBM 360 series did?
>
Easy! The pdp-8!
Late 60's.
> > US DARPA (Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency) TCP/IP
>
> DARPA itself mostly provided funding. The people they funded are the
> ones to blame for this particular mess.
>
> --
> Later,
> Jerry.
>
> The Universe is a figment of its own imagination.
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:06:45 GMT
"Boris Dynin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:YuQF6.114$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > > If there is an exception in MSXML.DLL, Server package process will
> crash
> > > and ASP will get an error code.
> > > Server package process will be restarted by COM+.
> >
> > What does it take to make that happen? Apache is pretty straightforward,
> > but have never found any documentation for IIS that makes any sense.
> If you subscribe to MSDN library edition ( ~$100 per year) you'll get all
> the docs you need (manuals for resource kits and sdks). Maybe Technet
> subscription will be better for you: it's geared towards sysadmins/IS
> managers.
The MSDN docs are free online if you don't want to pay and don't mind
not having a local copy (the MSDN site has never been down, so it's
not a bad trade-off):
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library
As far as getting IIS to restart the package, it happens automagically.
If the package crashes, the next time it's requested COM+ will go "Well,
hey, that package isn't started..." and start it up.
To ensure this is very robust, ensure that you have medium or higher
isolation with the package for maximum availability.
-c
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:23:58 -0700
Jan Vorbrueggen wrote:
>
> Roy Omond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Not sure about SNA, but DECnet certainly was one (and it was not
> > "proprietary" for any reasonable meaning of that word).
>
> I was thinking of DECnet, yes, and it certainly was _perceived_ as
> proprietary. For instance, there was no publicly available reference
> implementation to play with.
>
> jan
DEC designed and orginated ethernet, which was later accepted by the
IEEE committee.
Called DECnet.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Kulkis, er, Microsoft
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:31:53 -0700
Nick Maclaren wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> |> > |>
> |> > |> TCP/IP takes line of configuration,
> |> > |> and 2 commands to get up and running
> |> >
> |> > For those of us who are less familiar with such arcane incantations
> |> > than you are, please could you post your magically concise single
> |> > line of configuration and two commands?
> |>
> |> in /etc/hosts
> |> numeric.ip.address.here hostname [alias1 ...]
> |>
> |> ifconfig eth0 up address numeric.ip.of.thishost
> |> route add default numeric.ip.of.gateway
>
> That is grounds for being thrown off many or most networks. Most
> require a specific netmask and often a specific set of DNS servers.
> There is currently a plague of misconfigured systems with incorrect
> netmasks.
>
> Not to say that that won't always be enough, and will be cleared
> when you next reboot.
>
> You are also assuming that someone else has done a lot of other
> configuration when setting up the system distribution that you are
> using, because there are dozens of other aspects that need to be
> set correctly. Even at the hardware and TCP/IP levels, let alone
> if you actually want to run any standard clients or daemons.
>
> Nice try, but no banana.
Didn't Cambridge design some of the Amiga O/S as a student activity in
the late 70's?
>
> Regards,
> Nick Maclaren,
> University of Cambridge Computing Service,
> New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, England.
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679
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From: "Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:35:55 -0700
In article <9c9t6e$ttq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Todd"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip]
>> > mode - so that my rez is 2048x768 on dual LCD monitors...
>>
>> And you think that cannot be done under Linux?
>
> Linux wouldn't even recognize my sound card nor LAN card. And the
> graphics config. is non-intuitive at best.
>
> And no, there are no drivers for twin view that I could find.
You didn't look very hard. Matrox G-400 Dual-Head works just fine on
RH7.0 with XF86-4.0.2. TV-out is also supposed to work, but I'm out of
room on my desk so I haven't tried it.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Kulkis, er, Microsoft
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:33:33 -0700
Nick Maclaren wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> |> > |>
> |> > |> TCP/IP takes line of configuration,
> |> > |> and 2 commands to get up and running
> |> >
> |> > For those of us who are less familiar with such arcane incantations
> |> > than you are, please could you post your magically concise single
> |> > line of configuration and two commands?
> |>
> |> in /etc/hosts
> |> numeric.ip.address.here hostname [alias1 ...]
> |>
> |> ifconfig eth0 up address numeric.ip.of.thishost
> |> route add default numeric.ip.of.gateway
>
> That is grounds for being thrown off many or most networks. Most
> require a specific netmask and often a specific set of DNS servers.
> There is currently a plague of misconfigured systems with incorrect
> netmasks.
>
> Not to say that that won't always be enough, and will be cleared
> when you next reboot.
>
> You are also assuming that someone else has done a lot of other
> configuration when setting up the system distribution that you are
> using, because there are dozens of other aspects that need to be
> set correctly. Even at the hardware and TCP/IP levels, let alone
> if you actually want to run any standard clients or daemons.
>
> Nice try, but no banana.
>
So?? Bottom line... everybody is now using TCP/IP. SNA... hehehehe...
it lost a loooongg time ago!
> Regards,
> Nick Maclaren,
> University of Cambridge Computing Service,
> New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, England.
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:34:28 -0700
Paul Repacholi wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Can they robuset enough to continue operating during a nuclear war,
> > like TCP/IP?
>
> Huh, IP can seldom cope on a GOOD day. The idea of an IP based network
> staying up under severe stress is just too funny to be funny.
>
So?? Who is using SNA??
> --
> Paul Repacholi 1 Crescent Rd.,
> +61 (08) 9257-1001 Kalamunda.
> West Australia 6076
> Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.
> Spam-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:36:04 -0700
Phlip wrote:
>
> >>Huh, IP can seldom cope on a GOOD day. The idea of an IP based network
> >>staying up under severe stress is just too funny to be funny.
>
> During the Gulf War when the US bombed Iraqui "command and control
> facilities" they were often going after network servers. They never brought
> the net down.
>
> Staying up during a war is what TCP/IP was >designed< to do.
>
> --
> Phlip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ============ http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PhlIp ============
> -- Personally qualified to snub Mensa --
I would never join any organization that would have me as a member.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:37:24 -0700
"James A. Robertson" wrote:
>
> I'm sure that I read that in a fiction thriller - are you sure it's a
> real story?
>
It's true! It was reported in all the newspaper and on CNN during the
war.
> Steve Long wrote:
> >
> > but the Allies did effectively disable the entire network when a virus
> > embedded in a printer (which they arranged to end up in the iraqi military
> > environment) infected their infrastructure.
> >
> > "Phlip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:EE_F6.419$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >>Huh, IP can seldom cope on a GOOD day. The idea of an IP based network
> > > >>staying up under severe stress is just too funny to be funny.
> > >
> > > During the Gulf War when the US bombed Iraqui "command and control
> > > facilities" they were often going after network servers. They never
> > brought
> > > the net down.
> > >
> > > Staying up during a war is what TCP/IP was >designed< to do.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Phlip [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ============ http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PhlIp ============
> > > -- Personally qualified to snub Mensa --
>
> --
> James A. Robertson
> Product Manager (Smalltalk), Cincom
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <Talk Small and Carry a Big Class Library>
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:40:26 -0700
Nick Maclaren wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Paul Repacholi wrote:
> >> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> > Can they robuset enough to continue operating during a nuclear war,
> >> > like TCP/IP?
> >>
> >> Huh, IP can seldom cope on a GOOD day. The idea of an IP based network
> >> staying up under severe stress is just too funny to be funny.
> >
> >That's a BANDWIDTH issue, which has nothing to do with robustness.
> >
> >Hope that helps, feeble-minded twit.
>
> Hmm. If the bandwidth limitations of IP were all the problems it
> caused me, I would have a much easier life. If you look into its
> design - I won't say more carefully, because a quick glance will
> do - you will see that it is the antithesis of robust.
>
> The fact that it was designed to work on unreliable transport media
> doesn't mean that it delivers a reliable result, whatever sense
> you apply to reliable. TCP is nominally a 'reliable' channel, but
> is prone to failure saying just "shan't", jamming at several levels,
> and so on.
>
TCP/IP works over slow copper phone lines. These are rather everywhere.
Oh, by the way... why post with U. sig. anyway? In this COLA it doesn't
impress anybody. Most regard the U's as theorists' without experience.
> Regards,
> Nick Maclaren,
> University of Cambridge Computing Service,
> New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, England.
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:41:11 -0700
Icarus wrote:
>
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 12:10:18 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [...]
> >
> >Can they robuset enough to continue operating during a nuclear war, like TCP/IP?
>
> If I'm parsing this sentence corectly, AFAIK that capability hasn't
> yet been tested. As the QA guy at a previous job stated, "If it
> hasn't been tested, it doesn't work.
>
It works. Already been tested.
> Followups trimmed. Regards,
>
> Icarus
> --
> The world will little note nor long remember what we say here
> -A. Lincoln, Gettysberg Address
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> I Don't Do Windoze. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Apr 2001 12:05:37 -0500
On 24 Apr 2001 17:21:51 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:55:54 -0700, Gunner © <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On 24 Apr 2001 12:57:11 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:12:05 -0700, Gunner © <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>On 23 Apr 2001 19:27:50 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The government should protect people from danger.
>>>>>Isn't that why people should pay for the army?
>>>>
>>>>Wrong. No one is going to pay to give you your own guardian angel. We
>>>>pay for the military to keep other nations from destroying our nation.
>>>
>>>Is that not a danger? Is that not protection?
>>
>>Sure is, to the nation. However..courts have held consistently, that the
>>State has no obligation to protect the Individual.
>
>Protecting the nation is protecting the individuals.
Flawed logical conclusion.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: A real programming language for Linux: Smalltalk
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 25 Apr 2001 12:11:53 GMT
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:23:05 GMT, Mark Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> I have enjoyed using the Open Source Squeak Smalltalk
> system (www.squeak.org), but I just re-discovered an
> industrial strength development system VisualWorks Smalltalk
> that runs great on Linux (and just about every other platform)
> that is now free for non-commercial use (and $500 a year
> for a commercial use license).
>
> Anyway, I will probably get FLAMED for recommending
> a proprietary system,
<snip>
On the other hand,someone may just post a url to a very informative article,
about VisualWorks Non Commercial (VWNC) including tutorial and
screenshots, and say 'Thanks for the info' :)
http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue51/steffler.html
>
> -Mark
>
> -- Mark Watson
> -- Java and C++ consulting www.markwatson.com
>
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Terry
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From: Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:33:21 +0100
> Typical Outlook-User. Have a look at his odd-designed Postings, even
> Beta-Status KNode does a better job.
>
Wow - until reading this I didn't realise KNode is only Beta Status - I
have been using it since january and due to the lack of crashes in use
(compared to outlook's regular GPF's) I assumed it was the final version.
Viewing the About screen does confirm it's status though - I'm using
version 0.3.2 (supplied with my mandrake 7.2 distro). Decent about screen
too - how many windoze programs let you view the Licence agreement from
there rather than the once time viewing during the installer they normally
use - I am also amazed how many windows program licence agreements state
that the licence has been agreed to if the software has been opened yet you
cannot see this agreement without opening the package, I'm sure this must
be illegal under some fair trading rules.
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