Linux-Advocacy Digest #984, Volume #33 Fri, 27 Apr 01 09:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Quicken for Linux??? (Bob Tennent)
Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (WJP)
Re: Unwelcome changes in Linux advocacy. (Brent R)
Re: Article: Want Media Player 8? Buy Windows XP ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Communism (Mathew)
Re: Unwelcome changes in Linux advocacy. (Brent R)
Re: Women's rights and responsibilities -- child support from...non-fathers.
(Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Communism (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Roberto
Alsina)
Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are liars.
("billh")
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (Brian Langenberger)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: Quicken for Linux???
Date: 27 Apr 2001 11:54:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:27:31 GMT, Al wrote:
>Does any company make a Quicken like product for Linux???
gnucash
cbb
gnofin
emma
GCompte
JBooks
moneydance
All listed at freshmeat.net
Bob T.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.military.folklore
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:17:23 -0400
billh wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>
> > Can airdrops be strategic?
> >
> > a) no
> > B) yes
>
> Not from a C130 as you stated earlier. Stop embarrassing yourself, wannabe.
> It truly is pathetic.
Bill Hudson is apparently unaware of the C-130's in-flight refueling capability.
Why is this unsurprising
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.military.folklore
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:18:08 -0400
billh wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>
> > > > > Try to impress some teenagers with your BS lies. They're the only
> ones
> > > > > foolish/ignorant enough to believe your BS. Perhaps you can tell
> them
> > > all
> > > > > about the "strategic airlift C130's" you posted about in another
> > > thread.
> > > > > LOL!!!
> > > >
> > > > Are C-130's used for strategic moves, and long-range drops?
> > > >
> > > > a) no
> > > > B) yes
> > > >
> > > > No more questions, yerhonor.
> > >
> > > No, C130's are not used for strategic "moves". They are used for
> tactical
> > > airlift ("moves") and airdrops ("drops").
> >
> > Can airdrops be strategic?
> >
> > a) no
> > B) yes
>
> Not from a C130 as you stated earlier.
Ever hear of in-flight refueling?
> Stop embarrassing yourself, wannabe.
>
> KuKuNut, do you even know the difference between the strategic, the
> operational, and the tactical levels of war? You don't, else you wouldn't
> be trying to defend your idiocy. This is the same stupidity as the
> "strategic road marches" about which you posted and couldn't defend months
> ago shortly after you began embarrassing yourself in u.m.a. Quit playing at
> being knowledgeable about general military subjects and use that energy to
> actually learn something. You are a simple amateur and a truly pathetic
> wannabe.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: WJP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:26:27 -0500
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:34:02 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
//snipolla//
>
>I heard that Xenix wasn't all that good. As a matter of fact, it was
>the poorest O/S around at the time. Even DOD wouldn't accept it.
>
>
Oh, contrare, at least "part" of DOD accepted it. From 1985 to the
early 90's, we, at a U.S. Army Materiel Command separate reporting
activity in Huntsville, Alabama used Xenix for some administrative and
data base tasks. I produced one management analysis "final report"
using their word processing program - a Wordstar "lookalike". I do not
know who made the hardware - we just called it the "Xenix 310" - a
mini-computer with many dumb terminals. I believe the same system was
used extensively within Redstone Arsenal as well as the Army Materiel
Command around this time-frame.
Regards,
Bill Powell
USAF/USA (Ret) Management Systems Analyst
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unwelcome changes in Linux advocacy.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:25:20 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> David Neary wrote:
> >
> > Hullo wrote:
> > >frankly I'm
> > >disappointed with the speed with which you as a group resort to foul
> > >language, personal insult, invented (or copied) technical
> > >reports/information, but ...
> > >I'm hiring an MS head rather than a Linux guru as at least they show less
> > >capacity for being personally obnoxious. May I suggest that you consider
> > >evaluating how you "advocate" your hobby ( and it is clearly a hobby rather
> > >than an occupation for most of you
> > >I wish Linux could be rolled back
> > >to when it ran on a 386 DX 16 and Linux users were nice friendly people
> > >(best illustrated by Linus himself).
> >
> > I actually agree with what he said above (apart from the insults,
> > that said I did miss the original thread so it's possible there
> > was provocation).
> >
> > I've read quite a few posts on this newsgroup which have lead me
> > to believe that the majority of (current) Linux users really
> > don't want to be civil. I'm not talking about being excessively
> > polite, just civil - it's easier to keep quiet than be unhelpful,
> > after all.
>
> What's the point of being civil with pathalogical liars.
>
> I think they're shit-eating donkey-rapers, and so I feel no need
> to refrain from letting everyone else know that these "[Mafia$oft]
> can do no wrong" weenies fuck livestock in their spare time.
>
> >
> > In any case, I agree with him that there has been a marked
> > decline in the standard of help available on the more popular
> > newsgroups & irc channels. Bizarrely, to get the best user tips &
> > advice, someone now has to look for a low-traffic developers
> > list/channel and post o/t than go to the appropriate newsgroup.
> >
> > It seems to me that about 80% of the posts in this group (and 90%
> > of all the content of #linpeople or #debian) is way off topic,
> > and only serves to hide the real gems of posts from the people
> > looking for them.
> >
> > A large part of advocacy, after all, is making people who are not
> > familiar with you comfortable in your group. After that it's much
> > easier to explain the benefits of what you have to people. The
> > major problem at the moment is that groups like this one are too
> > popular for their own good,and too many people don't even know
> > the benefits of what they're advocating over proprietary
> > alternatives. this is not healthy.
>
> My preferred technique is the use of a witty repost delivered while
> slicing my opponent's throat.
>
> >
> > I hope people don't think I'm trolling here, I am offerring my
> > perspective on the changes in the Linux community over the years
> > (since 96, when I first discovered linux), and I intend this to
> > be either a constructive commentary on currently available
> > on-line resources, or a basis for discussion on the future of
> > Linux advocacy for the future.
>
> We're sick of MAfia$oft cult-members and their unending stream of lies.
>
> Any abuse aimed at them...is well deserved....many times over
>
> >
> > Thanks for reading,
> > Dave.
> >
> > --
> > David Neary, E-Mail dave.dot.neary.at.palamon.dot.ie
> > Palamon Technologies Ltd. Phone +353-1-634-5059
>
> --
Charming as ever Aarom...
--
- Brent
http://rotten168.home.att.net
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Article: Want Media Player 8? Buy Windows XP
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:26:52 -0400
Todd wrote:
>
> "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Dave Martel wrote:
> > >
> > > Why do I have the feeling that only Media Player 8 and later versions
> > > will eventually be able to play content-protected media?
> > >
> > > <http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-5712920.html>
> > >
> > > Want Media Player 8? Buy Windows XP
> > > By Joe Wilcox
> > > Staff Writer, CNET News.com
> > > April 24, 2001, 1:40 p.m. PT
> > >
> > > "Microsoft is requiring consumers who want to use the latest version
> > > of Windows Media Player to upgrade to the new Windows XP operating
> > > system--a move that is reminiscent of the company's controversial
> > > decision to tie the Internet Explorer browser with Windows."
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > "'There are some features with Windows Media Player that can only be
> > > delivered with Windows XP,' said Jonathan Usher, Microsoft's group
> > > product manager for Windows Media Player. These include CD burning and
> > > DVD movie playback, among other features not available with earlier
> > > versions of the product."
> >
> > I'm glad I'm using Linux, and don't have to worry about this
> > kind of shit.
>
> Well, see, with Windows XP, you have a choice. You can use the free Media
> Player, or you can use one of a bazillion different other media players out
> there... some of them quite good.
>
> You can choose whether or not to use XP or the media player. Just like you
> chose to use Linux. So where is the problem?
>
> Of course, all of the good media applications are for Windows, but hey, if
^^^ ^^^
some ported to
> you are fanatic about Linux, using substandard apps. is the norm.
Most of the high-end media applications are written EXCLUSIVELY for UNIX.
Since the code ports directly to LINUX, it works on Linux with nothing
more than an ftp, followed by
tar xvf tarball.tar
cd some/dir/src
make install
make clean
Hope that helps
>
> -Todd
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > --
> > "None but a blockhead ever wrote code,
> > except for money."
> >
> > Bill Gates
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
Crossposted-To:
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
From: Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 22:30:41 +1000
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> "Gunner =A9" wrote:
> >=20
> > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:31:15 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >=20
> > >> >
> > >> >ANYBODY who seeks to enslave others sacrifices any claim to his own=
life.
> > >> >
> > >> >Hope that helps.
> > >>
> > >> which means soooo [sic] much coming from a fucking idiot twat such a=
s
> > >> yourself.
> > >
> > >Gonna come say that to my face?
> >=20
> > WEEEEE! I get dibs on the video rights! And we can split the fee when
> > we send numbnuts body to a medical school.
> >=20
> > Aaron... try to draw it out as long as possible, so we can see lots of
> > his blood and hear the sounds of breaking bones.. Ive already got a
> > buyer for the master tape.
This is illegal,I hope you know.
>=20
> Weenie wouldn't dare show his face in Detroit.
>=20
>=20
> >=20
> > Gunner
> >=20
> > ""The greatest evil is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried =
and minuted)
> > in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices...like the
> > bureaucracy of a police state or a thoroughly nasty business concern."
> > C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>=20
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
> can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>=20
> K: Truth in advertising:
> =09Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
> =09Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
> =09Special Interest Sierra Club,
> =09Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> =09Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> =09The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> =09Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>=20
>=20
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>=20
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>=20
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>=20
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>=20
>=20
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>=20
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>=20
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
> =20
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>=20
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>=20
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>=20
>=20
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From: Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unwelcome changes in Linux advocacy.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:35:25 GMT
David Neary wrote:
>
> Hullo wrote:
> >frankly I'm
> >disappointed with the speed with which you as a group resort to foul
> >language, personal insult, invented (or copied) technical
> >reports/information, but ...
> >I'm hiring an MS head rather than a Linux guru as at least they show less
> >capacity for being personally obnoxious. May I suggest that you consider
> >evaluating how you "advocate" your hobby ( and it is clearly a hobby rather
> >than an occupation for most of you
> >I wish Linux could be rolled back
> >to when it ran on a 386 DX 16 and Linux users were nice friendly people
> >(best illustrated by Linus himself).
>
> I actually agree with what he said above (apart from the insults,
> that said I did miss the original thread so it's possible there
> was provocation).
>
> I've read quite a few posts on this newsgroup which have lead me
> to believe that the majority of (current) Linux users really
> don't want to be civil. I'm not talking about being excessively
> polite, just civil - it's easier to keep quiet than be unhelpful,
> after all.
>
> In any case, I agree with him that there has been a marked
> decline in the standard of help available on the more popular
> newsgroups & irc channels. Bizarrely, to get the best user tips &
> advice, someone now has to look for a low-traffic developers
> list/channel and post o/t than go to the appropriate newsgroup.
>
> It seems to me that about 80% of the posts in this group (and 90%
> of all the content of #linpeople or #debian) is way off topic,
> and only serves to hide the real gems of posts from the people
> looking for them.
>
> A large part of advocacy, after all, is making people who are not
> familiar with you comfortable in your group. After that it's much
> easier to explain the benefits of what you have to people. The
> major problem at the moment is that groups like this one are too
> popular for their own good,and too many people don't even know
> the benefits of what they're advocating over proprietary
> alternatives. this is not healthy.
>
> I hope people don't think I'm trolling here, I am offerring my
> perspective on the changes in the Linux community over the years
> (since 96, when I first discovered linux), and I intend this to
> be either a constructive commentary on currently available
> on-line resources, or a basis for discussion on the future of
> Linux advocacy for the future.
>
> Thanks for reading,
> Dave.
>
> --
> David Neary, E-Mail dave.dot.neary.at.palamon.dot.ie
> Palamon Technologies Ltd. Phone +353-1-634-5059
I'm only here for a laugh... the other Linux NG's are pretty courteous
and helpful. If you look at it as a cheap source of entertainment, this
place is great. Just grab a mug of warm cocoa, sit back, relax, and let
the flames fly. You won't be disappointed *wink*.
--
- Brent
http://rotten168.home.att.net
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities -- child support
from...non-fathers.
Date: 27 Apr 2001 12:36:21 GMT
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:54:42 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>> It appears that there is a move towards placing greater emphasis on DNA
>> testing (as a means of challenging paternity) and I for one think that's
>> a good move.
> Yes...but only if the judge ORDERS it, because most female custodial
> parents REFUSE to let a DNA test be done without a court order.
Laws vary on a state-by-state basis.
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To:
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: 27 Apr 2001 12:37:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:11:27 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:36:56 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:47:12 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:13:56 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:57:36 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> and lying is for dolts like yourself.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Speak for yourself, dolt.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Are you saying you have not lied here, Aaron?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Didn't you, when I said marrying you could be dangerous for a woman's
>> >> >> >> health say that was not true, only to say, two posts later, that
>> >> >> >> you would kill such woman if she ever got alimony from you?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Divorcing =/= marrying
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If she didn't marry, she can not divorce. Getting alimony from you
>> >> >> would be a direct consequence of her marriage.
>> >> >
>> >> >False premise.
>> >> >
>> >> >By that SUPPOSED logic, every marriage leads to alimony payments.
>> >>
>> >> Some marriages lead to alimony payments. I said marrying you *could*
>> >> be dangerous for her health. Not that it *was* dangerous for her health.
>> >
>> >that's not what you were trying to imply, weasel.
>>
>> Dear, only I know what I tried to imply. However, what I wrote
>> implies what I said, easily.
>>
>
>So, you admit that you are guilty of trying to mislead the reader.
As usual, you jump to conclussions only armed with ignorance.
>> >that's why I beat you by getting you to admit that, yes, indeed,
>> >the only logical stance is one that people have the FREEDOM to
>> >have firearms (so that, among other things, they can protect themselves).
>>
>> Why are you so obsessed with guns?
>
>I'm not. I'm responding to your paranoia of them.
I don't have a gun. I know exactly two persons who have guns.
Why should I be paranoid about them? Guns are not part of my life.
>> We were discussing freedom of movement,
>> not freedom to possess guns.
>
>Because private ownership of guns by law abiding citizens is
>essential not only to long-lasting freedom, but also to keeping
>violent crime rates low
And we were discussing freedom of movement. How does it relate?
Should arabian women start saying öh, I can't get out? eat lead!"?
>> So, let me get this straight, you were lying about women in
>> Arabia being better off, in order to win another argument?
>
>I proposed a position, namely, that sacrificing freedom for an illusion
>of safety, is a worthwhile endeavor.
You didn't propose it, you ENDORSED it.
>You, quite rightly, rejected that position....thereby exposing the
>flaw of your "You should outlaw your guns for your own safety" argument.
Argument I obviously have never made in those terms, as your silly
quotes attempt to imply.
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Roberto Alsina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: 27 Apr 2001 12:38:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chad Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 24 Apr 2001 17:21:51 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:55:54 -0700, Gunner © <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>On 24 Apr 2001 12:57:11 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:12:05 -0700, Gunner © <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>On 23 Apr 2001 19:27:50 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The government should protect people from danger.
>>>>>>Isn't that why people should pay for the army?
>>>>>
>>>>>Wrong. No one is going to pay to give you your own guardian angel. We
>>>>>pay for the military to keep other nations from destroying our nation.
>>>>
>>>>Is that not a danger? Is that not protection?
>>>
>>>Sure is, to the nation. However..courts have held consistently, that the
>>>State has no obligation to protect the Individual.
>>
>>Protecting the nation is protecting the individuals.
>
>Flawed logical conclusion.
What conclusion? Flawed how?
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Roberto Alsina
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles,soc.men,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.military.folklore
Subject: Re: Bill Hudson admits that he, Dave Casey, V-man and Redc1c4 are liars.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:39:48 GMT
"Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > > Can airdrops be strategic?
> > >
> > > a) no
> > > B) yes
> >
> > Not from a C130 as you stated earlier. Stop embarrassing yourself,
wannabe.
> > It truly is pathetic.
>
> Bill Hudson is apparently unaware of the C-130's in-flight refueling
capability.
>
> Why is this unsurprising
LOL!!! And this makes it a strategic asset? You're actually dumber than
you've previously proven yourself to be. This is fun. Keep it up.
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From: Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:39:49 +0000 (UTC)
Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> :> They should have inspected some open-source software for ideas, like
:> :> Fvwm95.
:>
:> : Fvwm95 is not software, it's a theme for FVWM2.
:>
:> More of a fvwm2 hack, really.
:>
:> http://www.plig.org/xwinman/fvwm95.html
: I took a look at the site. I wouldn't say it was a hack, since FVWM2 is
: flexible enough to allow this functionality without hacking: the task bar
: is just a module running as a seperate process. The rest are jst window
: decorations.
fvwm is flexible enough now :) But at the time (fvwm2.0.* or so)
I believe the theming capabilities were still very primative.
Nowadays, just about every Window manager can look like Windows95
(or the MacOS, or Warp, or whatever), which probably explains why
fvwm95 hasn't been updated in nearly 3 years.
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