Linux-Advocacy Digest #58, Volume #34            Mon, 30 Apr 01 14:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ? ("Erik Funkenbusch")
  Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Ayende Rahien")
  Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software ("Ayende Rahien")
  Re: Impact of Internet (JS PL)
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (JS PL)
  Re: Another Windows pc gets Linux (Karel Jansens)

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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:01:56 -0500

"hac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >
> > "hac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Jonadab the Unsightly One" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > That's silly.  All you need is to queue the upgrade to
> > > > > > > any given page until nobody's looking at it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And you magically know when nobody is looking at it, how?
> > > > >
> > > > > The OS should know that.
> > > >
> > > > It should?  I didn't realize they had optical sensors that allowed
the
> > > > terminals to notice when someone was looking at the terminal or not.
> > > >
> > > Even an idiot should realize that no one is looking at a page that
> > > isn't displayed.  Ergo, pages not displayed may be updated.  Which is
> > > what he clearly intended to convey, before you went out of your way to
> > > be obtuse and argumentative.  Unless, of course, you really are that
> > > stupid.  You seem bent on convincing everyone that you are.
> >
> > How exactly do you "update the page" of a standalone application?
> >
> > His argument was about how a single app on a server accessed by
terminals is
> > easier to maintain than an HTML based system.
> >
> If he was talking about a single app that encapsulates the data, then
> you have a point.  I was thinking of a single application that is
> delivers the data, where the data is stored as separate files,
> records, whatever.  You can certainly update records in a database
> without restarting it.  The key point is that the data is stored one
> and only place.  Browsers store a local copy, which complicates
> updates.

The point here is what happens when you need to update the APP, not the data
(though frequently they coincide).

> The drawback to HTTP for this application is that when a page is
> requested, a connection is opened, the page downloaded, and the
> connection is then dropped.  It's designed to be stateless, which is
> good for what it was designed for.  But in this application, you would
> like to know what each screen is displaying.  With HTTP, you have to
> add another layer, with the server keeping track of what page was last
> downloaded to which screen.  It's easier if you use a protocol that
> keeps the connection open, automatically locking the
> page/screen/file/record.  And an open connection simplifies displaying
> dynamic data.

Nonsense, you need only provide state information in the URL, or via a
cookie.





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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:02:31 -0400

Nomen Nescio wrote:
> 
> aaron:
> > Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
> > > > Nomen Nescio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina) wrote:
> > > > >> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:39:02 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
> > > > >> >Roberto Alsina wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:45:12 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> >Wrong.  I enjoy the company of American women very much.
> > > > >> >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >> >However, forming a legal association with one is hazardous
> > > > >> >> >> >to a man's wealth.
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> Well, forming an association with you can be dangerous for a womans
> > > > >> >> >> health.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >Are you asserting that I have a venereal disease?
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Do you? No, I did not assert that.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Then your assertion is false.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Well, if that woman divorces you, and the judge awards her alimony,
> > > > >> by your definition she "enslaves" you and you are entitled to kill
> > > > >> her.                                                          ^^^^
> > > > >
> > > > >you misspelled 'not pay'
> > > >
> > > > I know it's hard to believe, but Aaron actually said kill. he has
> > > > many times said "enslavers" forfeit their right to live.
> > >
> > > it is an interesting question just how accountable the dupes and puslaps
> > > of the socialist empire (alimony collecting golddiggers, welfare
> > > recipients, antitrust supporting haters of microsoft) should be held for
> > > thier destructive conduct.
> > > i myself prefer to counsel suicide for the parasites along with
> > > promoting the relentless imposition of informal social sanction by
> > > the productive members of society against said parasites.
> > > far better than throwing your whole life away eliminating just one
> > > parasite is to devote some small effort towards the establishment of
> > > a cold cruel regime of pure unalloyed indifference towards the puling
> > > of the weak and absolute devotion to the protection property rights
> > > through the prudent use of floggings, victim restitution, and executions.
> > > ah yes, floggings... we can start with the traitor robert bork...
> >
> > What did Bork do?
> 
> he sold out

what are you referring to ?  What incident/action?


>                         jackie 'anakin' tokeman
> 
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:45:54 +0200


"Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:l%fH6.41989$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9ci78v$bnu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:z70H6.46360$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > If CP/M had won, MS would not have had an OS base
> > > to erode; Windows could have wont hem such a base.
> > >
> > > It would have been a good idea. A second chance to
> > > beat CP/M.
> >
> > And *no* 9x!!!
> > What a *sweat* idea.
>
> I'm afraid that the alternate-history Windows 95
> would probably be just as much a hack as the
> one in our own time-line.
>
> It would just be hacking CP/M instead of
> MS-DOS. They aren't all that different.
>
> There are plausible ways to get a different
> OS in top of the heap in the early 90s, but
> having CP/M beat out MS-DOS really
> doesn't change much.

Yuck, WinCP/M!!!



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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:57:35 +0200


"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Ayende Rahien in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 30 Apr 2001
> >"Stefaan A Eeckels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>    [...]
> >> > In the real world, an application program ROUTINELY needs to know
more
> >> > about a function than the API documentation itself can provide.  This
is
> >> > not a fact which magically goes away because you wish really hard.
> >
> >I can't think of a single case off handly.
> >What you need to know about an API, or any function, for that matter, is:
> >A> It's name & parameters.
> >B> What it does.
> >That is true for any programming languages that I've used.
> >
> >*How* it does it is totally irrelevent.
>
> THAT it does it is not in any way irrelevant, and is the entire basis of
> the argument.

It does it is important, sure. How it does it is irrelevent.

> All these coding examples are meaningless and uninteresting (not just to
> me, I mean), and I'm beginning to suspect you just jumped in late into a
> discussion you don't really have a handle on.

No, you claim that the implentation of API is important to developers who
code against this API, right?
A related question, how much programming experiance do you have, T. Max? And
in what language?

T_Max.XP(iTime,strLang);

Error: 'XP' : is not a member of 'T_Max'



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From: JS PL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.arch,comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.theory,misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: Impact of Internet
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:08:45 -0400

Edward Rosten wrote:
> 
> > My dad says in medical school one of his classmates was a woman named
> > Sandra Shore. To this day, her parents swear that they had no idea that
> > "Sandy" is a common nickname for "Sandra."
> 
> I suppose my great uncle was lucy to be called Ben, not Orson. His
> sirname was Cart.
> 
> 
> > Of course, even funnier are names which conflict with one's chosen
> > profession. For example, there is a Dr. Michael Butcher in the San Jose
> > area who is actually quite an excellent surgeon.
> 
> Although they're trying to drop it, there was a lot about this in
> newScientist.

I heard the author of "Rusty Bedsprings" was named I.P. Daily.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:17:52 -0400

"Gunner©" wrote:
> 
> Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >>
> >> No, I'm an old war vet.
> >
> >29 is an old war vet?
> >
> It is when compared to you..a 14 yr old child who has never been to
> war.
> 
> When  I came home from RVN..I was OLD OLD OLD at 20.
> 

I don't doubt it.

They say that after each war in the 20th century, the burglary rate
drops dramatically, as the domestic landscape is filled with households
where the man therein, having already killed before, not only has no
qualms in doing so to defend his household....but can do it calmly as
the appropriate conduct is now second nature to him.


> Gunner
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> 
>  "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
>  invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
>  a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
>  the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
>  solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
>  a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
>  gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert Heinlein


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

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K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:20:46 -0400

Edward Rosten wrote:
> 
> >> The intolerance of homosexuals is a much higher level thing and can
> >> easily be changed.
> >
> > how's that working out for you?
> 
> Well, I haven't tried to make many people more tolerant, because the
> people I am friends with have enough of a moral sense to realise that
> blind prejudice is wrong.


Evaluating people on their behavior is NOT prejudice...it is postjudice

Prejudice = PRE judge.

Evaluation of someone's behavior, by definition, can NOT be prejudice.

Hope that helps.



>                            As for the bigots I've tried to convert here?
> well, they're still bigots. What more can I say.
> 
> Another thing is that these bigots assume that I'm homosexual because I
> am not homophobic and also have a deep dislike of homophobia. This simply
> shows up the bigotry. I have been careful in this not to mention my
> orientation once.
> 
> -Ed
> 
> --
> You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.
> 
> u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:21:25 -0400

theRadical wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:36:00 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >theRadical wrote:
> >>
> >> On 26 Apr 2001 13:59:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roberto Alsina)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:57:36 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>> and lying is for dolts like yourself.
> >> >>
> >> >>Speak for yourself, dolt.
> >> >
> >> >Are you saying you have not lied here, Aaron?
> >> >
> >> >Didn't you, when I said marrying you could be dangerous for a woman's
> >> >health say that was not true, only to say, two posts later, that
> >> >you would kill such woman if she ever got alimony from you?
> >>
> >> he's pathological, anything to try to win an argument.
> >
> >I'm a winner
> >You're not
> >Hope that helps.
> 
> wrong, you are the one who drops threads when he loses, just as now.

You're not only a loser, you're a wimp and a coward.

HTH

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:22:27 -0400

theRadical wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:00:03 GMT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> >>>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> >
> >   Aaron> theRadical wrote:
> >   >>
> >   >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 12:13:25 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >   >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   >> >> >> i NEVER have advocated confiscation of weapons dick head.
> >
> >   >> >> >..but that's what you dream about every night, isn't it, fascist prick.
> >
> >   >> >> not at all asshole.  however, thanks for admitting that you lied about
> >   >> >> me wanting to "steal everybody's self-defense tools."  you make it
> >   >> >> very easy to prove you are nothing but a lying sack of shit.
> >
> >   >> >You claimed that anyone who can't "prove" to your satisfaction that they
> >   >> >need a weapon should have it confiscated.
> >
> >   >> i never said such a thing.  you are lying. your conjecture is not
> >   >> fact.  otherwise, post the quote
> >   >> right here --------->
> >
> >
> >   Aaron> No need.  Your reputations preceeds you.
> >
> >Gee, what a surprise, Mr. Kulkis fails to back his words
> >(for the record, I have no idea if he was correct here,
> >I am just pointing out an example of his consistent failure
> >to back up his statements).
> 
> for the record, since i believe in various forms of gun control,
> kulkis believes i am a fascists who wants to confiscate every gun i
> america.

Every law-abiding citizen without mental problems should be able to
have as many guns as they want.





-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: JS PL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:26:55 -0400

"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> JS PL wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > JS PL wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > JS PL wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And your a College Educated Unix Engineer.....who only uses
> > > > > > Windows..Pffft..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Even after I explain the deception, he still doesn't get it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Explaining something which is possible isn't proof that your doing
> > it.
> > > > Your
> > > > > > using Windows98 and lying about it. Your worse than Devlin who uses
> > it
> > > > and
> > > > > > claims he's forced to do it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > After you deal with your own lies, you can begin throwing
> > > > accusations
> > > > > > > > around.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, what college campus did you trespass upon?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SDSU - dropped out after a year, and have never looked back.
> > > > >
> > > > > Says it all, really.
> > > >
> > > > Says what? I was making more at in my twenties way back in the 80's than
> > you
> > > > claim to make now!
> > >
> > > And racing horses in your twenties makes you a computer expert how,
> > exactly
> >
> > One might also ask this of you:
> > Running Windows 98 exclusively makes you a Unix Administrator how, exactly?
> 
> False premise.  I have one machine for running games that are unavailable
> on linux.
> 
> Everything else is done on Unix or Linux.

Bullshit.

X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {TLC;RETAIL} (Win98; U)

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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Windows pc gets Linux
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:07:37 +0000

Pete Goodwin wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> 
> > Lyx beats Word ANY day of the week.  Granted, I'm biased, having done a
> > maths degree.  Ever tried putting equations/obscure mathematical symbols
> > into Word?
> 
> Ever tried writing a simple letter with Lyx. It's far easier with Word.
> 

That is just plain wrong.

Once the templates have been set up correctly, even a total moron can
produce a professional letter with LyX. Worse (for Word, that is),
aforementioned moron doesn't even need to know what "layout" _means_,
let alone know the applicable rules.

The only wordprocessor that comes even close to LyX's output is
StarOffice Writer, which comes with a very kewl set of templates (but
even those can be fscked up by Mr. Moron, something which is impossible
with LyX.)

I agree that LaTeX may not be the right tool for an office environment,
but LyX definitely is. A half-competent sysadmin with an old LaTeX guide
can set up a house style in one monday morning. The beauty is that a LyX
house style _will_ be used by the drones (they simply have no other
choice - and if one of them does find out: Fire the old sysadmin and
replace him with the smarter drone).

--
Regards,

Karel Jansens
==============================================================
"You're the weakest link. Goodb-No, wait! Stop! Noaaarrghh!!!"
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