Linux-Advocacy Digest #773, Volume #33 Sun, 22 Apr 01 04:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (GreyCloud)
Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Y'all should be happy about this (or maybe not, I dunno) ("mmnnoo")
Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1 (GreyCloud)
Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! (Donn Miller)
Re: What's the point (Ray Chason)
Re: Y'all should be happy about this (or maybe not, I dunno) ("mmnnoo")
Re: Windows 2000 Rocks! ("mmnnoo")
Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN) (silverback)
Re: What to do with Bill Clinton (was Re: OT: Treason (was Re: ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:06:41 -0700
Todd wrote:
>
> "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Jon Johansan wrote:
> > >
> > > Says good-bye to expensive, hard to manage unix crap too...
> > >
> > > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1120413
> > >
> > > Zenon Chomyszyn, technology manager at the Halifax, told Computing that
> the
> > > company's Unix systems are too expensive to maintain, and that he hopes
> to
> > > reduce these costs by installing W2DC, despite a high initial outlay.
> > > "The benefits will be the management of the systems and boxes rather
> than a
> > > saving in purchase price," he said.
> > >
> > > Chomyszyn added that the operating system will increase the
> availability,
> > > reliability and scalability of the bank's databases, and will reduce
> > > operational costs by managing a single server rather than thousands.
> >
> > Here in the body of the article you say they are moving from "expensive"
> > Unix machines to Windows 2000 Datacentre, yet, in the subject you say,
> > "bank switches from using NT 4", bit of a contridiction?
>
> Not really.
>
> W2DC boxes are far less expensive that UNIX counterparts. And one W2DC box
> is certainly less expensive than 50 NT machines.
>
> W2DC is not much more than W2KAS with *only* certified drivers and a few
> additional (albeit very nice) features for data center usage.
>
> > Also, the
> > article failed to mention what version of Unix they were using? Why
> > didn't they replace it with a nice new SUN StarFire w/ Ultra Sparc III
> > Processor in it running Oracle?
>
> Then you are paying a lot more than you need to... UNIX is still far too
> expensive because of the dedicated software + the hardware.
>
> > the article is too brief to make any
> > clear conclusion what is superior.
>
> They weren't making any claims as to what was superior. They simply stated
> that they were testing for 18 months and came to the conclusion that W2DC
> was easier to manage - and that would bring costs down - not the actual
> savings on software.
>
> > Also, they failed to say whether
> > they have an afiliation with Microsoft? hence, they might get the
> > software cheaper than the shelf price.
>
> MS does cut a lot of deals when it benefits them- but then so does every
> *good* sales staff from any large company.
>
What's so expensive about Sun software?
I'm using it in preference to MS.
> -Todd
>
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner
> >
> > --
> > I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> >
> > If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> >
> > Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> >
> > The best of German engineering, now in software form
--
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:13:46 -0400
Brent R wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:58:00 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > What does this have to do with Linux advocacy? Is Linux, an
> > > >> > Is Lamic womans choice of OS?
> > > >>
> > > >> No, of course not; they're not allowed to make such choices. Linux for
> > > >> women's rights! :)
> > > >
> > > > Fuck them. They already have too mancy privileges and not enough
> > > > responsibilities, you simpering, ass-kissing ninny
> > >
> > > more anti-freedom rhetoric from anti-freedom Kulkis.
> >
> > Let's see...
> >
> > What do you call a system where
> >
> > Class A has many burdensome restrictions and many responsibilities
> > bot Class B, and NO privileges,
> >
> > while Class B has unlimited freedoms, no restrictions and zero
> > responsibilites to Class A
> >
> > That is called FEUDALISM, is it not?
> >
> > Now...look at the society which feminism has made for us.
> >
> > Class A above is defined as "men"
> > Class B above is defined as "women"
> >
> > So much for freedom and equality.
> >
> > Any man who supports Feminism is a self-flagellating idiot.
>
> Well I would say that it depends on what type of feminism.
> Turn-of-the-century-feminism wasn't as insistent as Steinem-feminism to
> turn women into Oprahized-overemotional blabbering idiots.
Please tell us of all the women in America who are currently
advocating circa 1900 feminism in contrast to Steinam feminism.
It will amuse me
>
> Intelligent and successful women are to busy succeeding to vomit forth
> nonsense about how 'oppressed' they are.
>
Really? What about all of the "glass ceiling" suits, which
deliberately don't take into account the fact that the men
who pass these women by were willing to relocate half-way
across the continent EVERY time the company asked, and to
go on business trips on 2-hours' notice, when the women WEREN'T.
> I heard some idiotic college professor go on NPR and blab that women
> were under-represented in the computer industry because of...
>
> computer games!!! She was claiming that through 'Lara Croft' and the
> like, women were being painted into a 'sex-kitten role' (let's see: a
> woman portrayed as a strong Indiana Jones character who eludes her male
> pursuers... yeah that is oppressive).I wanted to reach through my radio
> and slap her wart-riggen face.
>
> But, of course, such expressions of utter contempt are by and large not
> productive. Better to humiliate her intellectually than to allow myself
> to be portrayed as a reactionary.
And yet, that's the only thing the politicians hear because
MEN refuse to defend themselves against these ridiculous ideas.
>
> --
> - Brent
>
> http://rotten168.home.att.net
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "mmnnoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Y'all should be happy about this (or maybe not, I dunno)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 07:18:17 GMT
The article says in 2000 Gates at 53 billion and donated 1 million.
Gee, 1 million is alot - unless you have another 52.999 billion left.
A million is 1/1000 of 1 billion, so percentagewise that's the equivalent
of someone who'd managed to save up 1 million giving away 20
in a year. I'm not saying 1 million isn't alot to donate, it's just
amazing how much 50 billion is.
1/50,000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Brent R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/04/22/stinwenws01023.html
>
> Maybe this is the beginning of the end. As much as I spend a lot of time
> defending MS in here, I'd still love to see BG go. MS software is indeed
> getting worse, it's time for new direction (I'd also like to see
> crome-dome go too).
>
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do Win advocates suck? Part 1
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:20:42 -0700
pookoopookoo wrote:
>
> > I have Civilisation, Simcity 3000 for Linux, for wordprocessing,
> > spreadsheet and presentations I used StarOffice 5.2, btw is very stable,
> > I used for University studies. The old argument that Linux lacks the
> > apps is based on nothing but pure FUD. I could accept that if you
> > heavily relied on Macros for your work, then maybe StarOffice is not the
> > best option, however, the general home user never uses those options.
> > Most just jump on the computer and start typing a letter etc etc, hence,
> > StarOffice would suit the average user.
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner
>
> Hehe, come on matt...
>
> Seriously, where's Illustrator? Photoshop? Quark Xpress? Indesign? Flash?
> Colin McRae Rally? Half-Life? Flight Simulator? Dreamweaver? Director? Shall
> I go on?
>
> None of these apps have even similar-quality equivalents in Linux.
>
> I use Staroffice 5.2 also btw. It's great (for those rare times when I
> actually need an office suite). What the guy said isn't FUD, it's the god's
> honest truth. For a regular joe user, Linux is useless. It's great for
> programmers, but that's about all. If you want to get some R&R or do any
> kind of design-related jobbie, linux is sort of a dead end. Also, I'm not
> sure why they call win98 bloatware, when my Mandrake 7.2 install took up
> almost a gig and a half.
All of the linux distros pile in application and programming software.
That's why that one you had rang up 1.5G... Caldera can rack up 4G...
Suse.. 8G. The core is much smaller that windows and runs faster. The
TCP/IP software runs twice as fast as that in windows. In windows I
downloaded the now free Masm 6.15, there were some demo programs also.
These window demos ran a whole lot faster because they were smaller and
didn't carry around a lot of dead baggage. These programs snapped up
real fast. The problem lays in the development... C++ or Visual Basic.
These types of programs could have been cleaned up with a little effort
but somehow their not.
>
> It's ok in an office environment though, if office work is all it's going to
> be doing. Linux is a really good turnkey OS but not great at doing many
> varied things. That falls squarely in the court of Windows / MacOS. Unless
> it's games. Than there's nothing but windows (and not even 2000, just 98).
I think I'd rather play games on a playstation 2. Thing is I don't do
games.
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:24:53 -0400
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
GreyCloud wrote:
>
> Hullo wrote:
> >
> > It's great.
>
> That a fact.
"Great" like a wooly mammoth or a pack of Pachyderms. (Hint: think
memory usage.)
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From: Ray Chason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the point
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 07:28:51 -0000
Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>However, most people install software in root, and root could install
>software that could insert a malicious 'su' script in a path so you're
>still screwed.
If someone can insert a trojan 'su' in your path, s/h/it can insert
a trojan 'su' in the place where the real 'su' belongs. Once you're
rooted, the game's over and you've lost.
--
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Delenda est Windoze
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From: "mmnnoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Y'all should be happy about this (or maybe not, I dunno)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 07:34:16 GMT
Well, I take it all back. The article actually says Gate's foundation
donated 1 billion, not 1 million, which is an enormous sum, even
a significant amount out of 53 billion. I don't know if the foundation's
money all comes out of Gates' personal fortune or what, but that
is a lot of money.
In article <ZAvE6.73257$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "mmnnoo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The article says in 2000 Gates at 53 billion and donated 1 million. Gee,
> 1 million is alot - unless you have another 52.999 billion left. A
> million is 1/1000 of 1 billion, so percentagewise that's the equivalent
> of someone who'd managed to save up 1 million giving away 20 in a year.
> I'm not saying 1 million isn't alot to donate, it's just amazing how
> much 50 billion is.
>
> 1/50,000
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Brent R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2001/04/22/stinwenws01023.html
>>
>> Maybe this is the beginning of the end. As much as I spend a lot of
>> time defending MS in here, I'd still love to see BG go. MS software is
>> indeed getting worse, it's time for new direction (I'd also like to see
>> crome-dome go too).
>>
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From: "mmnnoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Rocks!
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 07:36:48 GMT
Okay, okay, we get it already - you're trolling.
In article <9btjab$n5v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Hullo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is incredibly excellent dude. You know it, I know it. It rocks.
>
>
> "The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Hullo
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote
>> on Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:01:48 +0100
>> <9bslgm$jp8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >It's great.
>>
>> That's not horribly specific. What, precisely, is it that you like
>> about Win2k that wasn't available in NT4, Win98SE, or WinME? How about
>> competitive products such as RedHat, Mandrake, Debian, SuSE, and
>> Slackware, all of which are Linux-based? Will Windows XP "rock" even
>> more, even though, in the opinion of this poster, it looks like
>> something more suitable for Fischer-Price than Microsoft? Do we really
>> need giant-sized idiot-proof icons?
>>
>> (At one point, NT was touted as "the most reliable operating system"
>> or some such -- and then Win2k came out as "the even more reliable
>> operating system". Bizarre.)
>>
>> Will Win2k allow for arbitrarily large scaling? Linux can work on a
>> dinky little 386 with 4 megs of memory (granted, it can't do much) all
>> the way to gigantic iron: an IBM S/390 system. It can also work on a
>> lot in between -- I have a version installed on an older model SPARC,
>> for example; it also supports PPCs, Amigas, Ataris, and Macs. HP is
>> reputed to be working on, or at least lending support to, a version for
>> their PA RISC line. I suspect Sun might be at least studying it, with
>> an eye towards improving Solaris. It's even possible Solaris code might
>> make its way into Linux.
>>
>> And with such things as KDE and Gnome, Linux et al has a number of
>> choices of pretty GUIs -- and the Linux ones tend to be more useful, if
>> one has half a clue. Or one can roll one's own, albeit that takes a
>> bit of work. (I'll admit I'm weird; Athena looked extremely ugly but
>> was reasonably easy to work with. Modern variants have improved on its
>> appearance, though.)
>>
>> Oodles of software exist for Linux, much of it in source form. Not sure
>> how many more oodles exist for Linux, and whether there's more for
>> Linux or for Windows -- one difference I do note is that Linux software
>> always has source if it's free, whereas Windows software usually gets
>> just an .EXE or a .DLL. At least, that's my impression.
>>
>> Some of it is even useful -- in fact, a lot of Linux freeware is
>> useful. One example: PostgreSQL, a full-featured relational database.
>> Another is Gnumeric, a Gnome spreadsheet. Still another is Lyx (a
>> front-end to TeX or LaTeX, which are both extremely competent
>> typesetting packages).
>>
>> So...again...what was it about Windows 2K you liked so much?
>>
>> --
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here EAC code #191
>> 5d:16h:56m actually running Linux.
>> We are all naked underneath our clothes.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 05:39:22 GMT
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:37:55 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael
Ejercito) wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:57:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(silverback) wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 04:14:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael
>>Ejercito) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:43:31 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>(silverback) wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:13:39 -0400, Rob Robertson
>>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who is Silverdick?
>>>>>
>>>>> Glen "silverback" Yeadon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>>>>also known as "The Global Village Idiot."
>>>>
>>>>no fraud the village idiot is you
>>> Prove it, gdybozo52150.
>>
>>thats easy just read one of fraud's posts.
> I did. And you are the village idiot.
>
no that would be you junior.
>
> Michael
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What to do with Bill Clinton (was Re: OT: Treason (was Re:
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:41:38 -0400
Ace Agincourt wrote:
>
> Hi Aaron,
>
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:17:06 -0400,
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
>
> ? Ace Agincourt wrote:
> ? >
> ? > Hi Aaron,
> ? >
> ? > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:58:02 -0400,
> ? > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ? > put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
> ? >
> ? > ? Ace Agincourt wrote:
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > Hi Aaron,
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:02:49 -0400,
> ? > ? > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ? > ? > put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? Ace Agincourt wrote:
> ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > Hi Aaron,
> ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:22:12 -0400,
> ? > ? > ? > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ? > ? > ? > put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
> ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > ? Ace Agincourt wrote:
> ? > ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > ? > Hi Don,
> ? > ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > ? > On 21 Apr 2001 01:26:52 GMT,
> ? > ? > ? > ? > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
> ? > ? > ? > ? > put fingers to keyboard and tapped away writing:
> ? > ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ? On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:11:05 +0100, Ace Agincourt wrote:
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > Hi Roberto,
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > Serbia was at war with the Kosovas. Are you claiming that the
>mass
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > murders did not occur.
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ? They are mass *murders* only if they are war *crimes*, ie they are
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ? unlawful even in the context of war. Are you claiming the mass
>murders
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ? were not war crimes ?
> ? > ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > ? > Should, then, Lord Walworth have been tried for war crimes after he
> ? > ? > ? > ? > murdered Wat Tyler? Who would have intervened in England's private
> ? > ? > ? > ? > affairs?
> ? > ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > Also, Hitler went to war against the Jews.
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ? > Are you a holocaust denier?
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ? The NAZIs were tried as war *criminals*, meaning their killings
>were found
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ? to be unlwaful.
> ? > ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > ? > Under whose authority? Should Bill Clinton be forced to stand trial
> ? > ? > ? > ? > for his war crimes: the bombing of a Sudanese Pharmaceutical plant
>and
> ? > ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ? > ? Yes.
> ? > ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ? > ? He should also be put on trial for Treason.
> ? > ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ? > ? And sentanced to hanging by his testicles.
> ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > Don't you think hanging by testicles is too good for him?
> ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ? That depends on whether you tie a noose around his testicles...or use
> ? > ? > ? 300-pound test fishing line, stitched THROUGH his testicles.
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > Wouldn't the line just pull through, leaving him writhing on the floor
> ? > ? > in agony until he dies?
> ? > ?
> ? > ? Yeah....so?
> ? >
> ? > Just thought you may be able to come up with something better.
> ?
> ? You know something more agonizing than hanging by 300-pound test
> ? fishing line sewn through your testicles until the fishing line
> ? finally abrades it's way through your tissues and you fall on
> ? the floor head first?
> ?
> ? If you do, then I would certainly hate to be you.
>
> Didn't you read my description of the Wire Jacket and Death by a
> Thousand Cuts?
Ok...we can combine the two.
HAH!
>
> ?
> ?
> ? >
> ? > My younger brother met Clinton at a breakfast when he visited
> ? > Shanghai. He said that images of a cigar and an ugly overweight
> ? > teenager sprang into his mind.
> ?
> ? Sounds disteurbing....traumatizing even.
> ?
> ? Maybe we could declare Clinton's mere presence in public to
> ? be a disturbance of the peace and a psychological danger to
> ? all he meets.
> ?
> ?
> ?
> ? >
> ? > ?
> ? > ?
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > I think the place for his trial would be China. There they have some
> ? > ? > very ingenious ways to execute, where the execution process takes
> ? > ? > days, even weeks. Making him wear the wire jacket may be appropriate.
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > The Wire Jacket and Death by a Thousand Cuts
> ? > ? > ----------------------------------------------------------
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > Wire is wrapped tightly around the naked body
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > Each day the executioner cuts off a bit of flesh protruding between
> ? > ? > bits of wire
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > Apart from the cuts, the condemned is cared for (fed and watered)
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > A skilled executioner can make the execution last over a month
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > The condemned can last until 90% of his skin has been removed
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > The condemned doesn't bleed to death because the tight wire prevents
> ? > ? > excessive blood loss
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > Each cut adds to the agony of the condemned
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ? > ?
> ? > ? > ? > ? > the associated maimings, and the bombing of an Afghan youth training
> ? > ? > ? > ? > centre and its associated murders?
> ? > ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > ? > Best wishes, Ace.
> ? > ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > ? > ====================
> ? > ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > ? > This story shall the good man teach his son;
> ? > ? > ? > ? > And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
> ? > ? > ? > ? > From this day to the ending of the world.
> ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > Best wishes, Ace.
> ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > ====================
> ? > ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ? > This story shall the good man teach his son;
> ? > ? > ? > And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
> ? > ? > ? > From this day to the ending of the world.
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > Best wishes, Ace.
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > ====================
> ? > ? >
> ? > ? > This story shall the good man teach his son;
> ? > ? > And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
> ? > ? > From this day to the ending of the world.
> ? >
> ? > Best wishes, Ace.
> ? >
> ? > ====================
> ? >
> ? > This story shall the good man teach his son;
> ? > And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
> ? > From this day to the ending of the world.
>
> Best wishes, Ace.
>
> ====================
>
> This story shall the good man teach his son;
> And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
> From this day to the ending of the world.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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