Linux-Advocacy Digest #719, Volume #34           Wed, 23 May 01 01:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (T. Max Devlin)
  Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust! ("JS \\ 
PL")
  Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux ("Ayende Rahien")
  Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("Ayende Rahien")
  Re: Linux dead on the desktop. ("Ayende Rahien")
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (Dan)
  Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux ("Matthew Gardiner")
  Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU! (.)
  Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux ("Ayende Rahien")
  IBM uses mainframe to woo Linux fans ("Matthew Gardiner")
  Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust! (Terry 
Porter)
  Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (Jim Richardson)
  Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust! (Terry 
Porter)
  Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (Jim Richardson)
  Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust! (Terry 
Porter)
  Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the  ("Aaron R. 
Kulkis")
  Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust! ("JS \\ 
PL")
  Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the  ("Aaron R. 
Kulkis")

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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 03:33:57 GMT

Said Edward Rosten in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 22 May 2001 
>> If you weren't aware
>> that different frequencies of electromagnetic radiation travel or
>> propagate at different velocities or speeds, 
>
>NOT in free space.

There is no free space; all of the universe is a quantum foam of
transient particles, we're told.

-- 
T. Max Devlin
  *** The best way to convince another is
          to state your case moderately and
             accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***

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From: "JS \\ PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:35:06 -0400


"Zsolt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> JS \\ PL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 22 May 2001 14:09:25 -0400
presented us with the
> wisdom:
> [snip]
> > ...Ohh I could go on and endlessly
> > list how much better XP is than Mandrake. Once again the Linux community
is
> > playing catch up to the industry leader. Competition at it's finest!
>
> Please, tell us about the auto-update feature! You know, the one that
installs
> all the latest viruses on your computer without a click of the mouse or
opening
> of an email...
> That's gotta be the biggest innovation of that "Industry leader" ever!
> I just wonder which industry would that be... ;-)  (maybe "garbage
production")
>
> Zsolt

I haven't heard of that feature. Downloading viri that is. It seems like
that feature would hurt sales....over...



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From: "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 06:41:53 +0200


"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Ayende Rahien in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 22 May 2001
>    [...]
> >There shouldn't *be* an unexpected value, period.
>    [...]
>
> I'm not even a software programmer.  But I can tell a novice software
> programmer when I see one.

No, you can't. I've been programming for over 7 years now.

> Basing your software engineering on wishful thinking is not a sign of
> great competency, Ayende.

No, it's not wishful thinking.
It's called "Validating input".



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From: "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 06:46:53 +0200


"Interconnect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9ef90p$iti$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> How many *original* ideas has Microsoft given to the computer world?

MTS, Application Center.

It would be easier if you defined original.



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From: "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux dead on the desktop.
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 06:48:24 +0200


"Interconnect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9ef93e$j0u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ayende Rahien <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9ef73p$n7v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > On Tue, 22 May 2001 20:32:54 +0200,
> > > Ayende Rahien <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3387/1/
> > > >
> > > > I can't say I don't agree.
> > > >
> > > > Some points:
> > > > A> The linux desktop company he's talking about is likely Mandrake.
> > > > B> He agrees with Daniel about users getting computer/OSes/shells
not
> > for
> > > > the sake of the computer/OS/Shell, but for the applications that it
> run.
> > > This is an old retort, and you can't neatly seperate them imho.
> > >
> > > For instance, the OS plays a big part in what aplications you CAN run.
> If
> > > I want to run GUI apps *remotely*, MS cant help me.
> >
> > Sure it can.
> > Terminal Server will do it just fine.
>
> Sorry Terminal Server won't run ALL MS apps.

What applications won't run? I've used it quite extensively, I can't recall
*ever* having an application not working.



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From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: 22 May 2001 22:53:02 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> I think I may have misread some copy. The Model II doew seemt ot be the
> only one that ran CP/M out of the box.
> 
> How hard was the upgrade for the 4?

The Model 4 didn't need an upgrade.   It also could run CP/M "out of the 
box", just not in 1981!   The 4 didn't appear until (Fall?) 1983.

The II and the 4 had no ROMS to get in the way of CP/M.  They both 
offered the "full" 64K of RAM needed for real CP/M.   They had small 
"boot ROMS" that were switched out once the OS was booted.    The Model 
I and III had the BASIC ROMS that needed to be moved out of the way.   
That's what the hardware mods did.

Ahh, memories!!!!! 

Dan

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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:55:16 +1200


"Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9efbm2$ehb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Said Ayende Rahien in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 22 May 2001
> >    [...]
> > >There shouldn't *be* an unexpected value, period.
> >    [...]
> >
> > I'm not even a software programmer.  But I can tell a novice software
> > programmer when I see one.
>
> No, you can't. I've been programming for over 7 years now.
>
VB != Programming

I can program, however, I prefer consulting.  I prefer, however, to program
is C++ and COBOL.

Matthew Gardiner



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: Microsoft - WE DELETE YOU!
Date: 23 May 2001 04:04:20 GMT

Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What piece of crap this Netscape 6 is.
> Well, not as much as NS 4.7x because that
> doesn't even work any more. I guess after
> using it 12 times, it self-destructs.

> (even worse! This crappy browser won't let
> you cross post, so I'm having to do it manually)

> I practically had to reinstall the OS to
> get NS 6 working on here. There were like
> 50 patches just to get it working. It's
> a Java-based app too! What a joke!

Thats because youre running solaris 7.  If you were 
running solaris 8, there would have been two patches; 
which if you were any kind of responsible unix person
you would have applied already.

The same can be said for 7.

> Anyhow, this should be sufficient. I don't
> have time to get tin running as that'll
> probably involve another 2 hours to get it
> up and running. Plus, I've had my fill of
> shitty newsreaders for today.

You've never even used tin.

> I just got NNTP access at work today and
> hadn't copied my killfile from home yet.
> I've made sure that you're back in it,
> though.

Bullshit.




=====.


-- 
"George Dubya Bush---the best presidency money can buy"

---obviously some Godless commie heathen faggot bastard

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From: "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: W2K/IIS proves itself over Linux/Tux
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:09:39 +0200


"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9efcch$g0a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Ayende Rahien" <don'[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9efbm2$ehb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Said Ayende Rahien in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 22 May 2001
> > >    [...]
> > > >There shouldn't *be* an unexpected value, period.
> > >    [...]
> > >
> > > I'm not even a software programmer.  But I can tell a novice software
> > > programmer when I see one.
> >
> > No, you can't. I've been programming for over 7 years now.
> >
> VB != Programming

Actually, it is, it has some severe limitations though.
But I learned VB quite recently, I don't use it very much, though.

My first real lanuage was Pascal (by hand, I might add. Using a computer was
delayed as much as possible. The teacher believe it makes a better code when
you can't just compile to find the errors.).


> I can program, however, I prefer consulting.  I prefer, however, to
program
> is C++ and COBOL.

I rather program, preferably in C++.



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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IBM uses mainframe to woo Linux fans
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 16:20:31 +1200

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6006251.html?tag=mn_hd

Now IBM is getting serious about Linux.

Matthew Gardiner



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 23 May 2001 04:36:07 GMT

On Wed, 23 May 2001 03:33:44 GMT,
 T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 22 May 2001 17:49:25 
>>"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>> "JS \\ PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>> > Internet connection stays when switching users!
>>>
>>> Wow.  Welcome to Slackware 1.0.
>>
>>And NT 3.51.
> 
> Yea; *now* you know that.  <*Smirk*>
> 
>>> > And get this - Applications even stay open and are there (still
>>> > open) when returning to that user.
>>>
>>> And to GNOME 1.0.
>>
>>Really? How do you exit GNOME as one use, log on as another,
>>then log back in as the first and have all apps still running?
> 
> What do you mean "still"?  Why would you want to exit GNOME just to log
> on as another user?
The joke is that Chad doesn't know how sad and pathetic, his question is.

> 
> It is obvious from JS PL's brief description of XP's gentle benefits
> that it is going to be such a hugely pathetic joke, and will be so
> unable to work correctly and reliably, that nobody but sock puppets and
> naive victims are ever going to consider it any more of a worthwhile OS
> than DOS 2.0.
Ya just gotta laugh, its the same old story, Windows "White Goods Software"
all over again, and the accolades from its users who simply don't know
any better.

> 
> -- 
> T. Max Devlin
>   *** The best way to convince another is
>           to state your case moderately and
>              accurately.   - Benjamin Franklin ***


-- 
Kind Regards
Terry
--
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   My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.   
   1972 Kawa Mach3, 1974 Kawa Z1B, .. 15 more road bikes..
   Current Ride ...  a 94 Blade
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From: Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:33:41 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In msgid <3b080db8$0$37257$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jan Johanson wrote: on 
Sunday 20 May 2001 11:35

> 
> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9e67e7$8cm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > I think the SETI program is a farce! No offense to you, but I often
>> > wonder what good does it do them?  Radio waves travel a little slower
>> > than the speed of light.
>>
>> Radio waves travel *exactly* at the speed of light, since they're the
>> same stuff.
>>
> 
> I thought you were educated? Time to go back to class...
> 
> radio waves travel slower than light...
> 
> 
> 

Not in free space they don't. Radio waves and light are the same thing, 
different frequencies. 

-- 
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
        Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 23 May 2001 04:44:57 GMT

On Wed, 23 May 2001 14:11:51 +1200,
 Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> "Terry Porter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

>> >>Internet connection stays when switching users!
>> >
>> > Umm...  This ability has been there since NT 3.51.
>> >
>> > Fire up your registry editor and add the following REG_SZ:
>> >
>> > HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\
>> > Winlogon\KeepRasConnection = 1
>>
>> While you're at it,
>>
>> Fire up your registry editor and add the following REG_SZ:
>>
>> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows 98\CurrentVersion\
>>        BSOD\random = 0
>>
>> This should improve the stability of your Win98.
> 
> Even with the change, it still crashes.  Maybe the BSOD is a built in
> feature that cannot be changed :)
Yeah perhaps thats the case, but I'll have another sneak look in the
"Windows 100001 forbidden secrets" book ($499.95) at Barnes and Noble.

Perhaps I copied it down incorrectly?

> 
> Matthew Gardiner
> 
> 


-- 
Kind Regards
Terry
--
****                                                  ****
   My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.   
   1972 Kawa Mach3, 1974 Kawa Z1B, .. 15 more road bikes..
   Current Ride ...  a 94 Blade
Free Micro burner: http://jsno.downunder.net.au/terry/          
** Registration Number: 103931,  http://counter.li.org **

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From: Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:43:41 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In msgid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pete Goodwin 
wrote: on Sunday 20 May 2001 02:43

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> 
>> SETI runs on unix boxes as well.  Of course, Windows is more popular, so
>> naturally the majority of them are going to be Windows boxes.  This has
>> nothing to do with technical merit.
> 
> The Intel one only runs on Windows. They chose it because it's the most
> popular.



What a bunch of bollocks. Seti@home for intel linux is available at 
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/unix.html

-- 
Jim Richardson
        Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
www.eskimo.com/~warlock
        Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 23 May 2001 04:52:33 GMT

On 22 May 2001 19:14:11 -0500,
 Jan Johanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> "Brian Langenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9eeah6$f9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy "JS \\ PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> <drivel snipped>
>>
>> What a headline:  "MS-Windows User Enjoys More MS-Windows"
> 
> kinda like car enthusiast enjoys better cars

Or Edsel user, buys new Edsel, ignores better cars!

> 
> strange? I think no.
You wouldn't, Herr Wintroll.

> 
>>
>> : and copy and paste is still much much better between apps, as opposed to
> the
>> : hit and miss copy/paste support in Linux.
>>
>> I'm still waiting for Windows to support the middle mouse button for
>> pasting like practically EVERY SINGLE X11 CLIENT EVER WRITTEN.
>> Keystrokes for copying/pasting is truly a pain in the ass...
> 
> Perhaps, firstly you need to ask, why would we care what X11 clients do?
Those that ignore history, are doomed to repeat it :)

> Most of the world never uses them or cares or will.
Another clairvoyant, it must be the ink in the Windows EULA ?

> Next, you CAN
> cut/copy/paste using your mouse without touching the keyboard already.
Sadly its not consistent on Windows.

> Last, you can configure the middle mouse button to do whatever you'd like -
Recover from a BSOD ?

"This machine has detected a BSOD caused by pressing the middle mouse button
(was that chordmiddle or emulate 3rd button?), please press the middle button
again and write down the 96 digit hex code, then ring Microsoft help, give the
operator your credit card number and 25 digit Windows password number."  

> are you really that inexperienced with Windows?
Are you really that experienced with UNIX ?

> 
> 
> 


-- 
Kind Regards
Terry
--
****                                                  ****
   My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.   
   1972 Kawa Mach3, 1974 Kawa Z1B, .. 15 more road bikes..
   Current Ride ...  a 94 Blade
Free Micro burner: http://jsno.downunder.net.au/terry/          
** Registration Number: 103931,  http://counter.li.org **

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the 
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 00:55:20 -0400

JS \\ PL wrote:
> 
> I have to say, Linux Mandrake 8 was looking real damn good. Support for all
> my hardware (for once) easy set-up, even seting up networking and connection
> sharing was painless. Good newsreader - Knode, pretty stable OS. I even
> liked the fact that it stayed connected to the Internet when switching users

this has been a fact of Unix family operating systems since they were
first networked (i.e. 1970's)


> (unlike Win2K)

Another admission that Mafia$oft is over 30 years behind in basic technology.



>                I was actually contemplating using it much more often and
> only using Windows for apps I need to use that aren't available on Linux.
> But....
> Well after half a day checking out the new XP OS, I have to say IT KICKS
> MANDRAKE ASS!!
> Internet connection stays when switching users! And get this - Applications
> even stay open and are there (still open) when returning to that user.
> That's just the tip of the iceberg.   Of course the browser still kicks ass,
> and copy and paste is still much much better between apps, as opposed to the
> hit and miss copy/paste support in Linux. Ohh I could go on and endlessly
> list how much better XP is than Mandrake. Once again the Linux community is
> playing catch up to the industry leader. Competition at it's finest!
> Thank You.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "JS \\ PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the dust!
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 00:57:33 -0400


"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 22 May 2001 17:49:25
> >"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> "JS \\ PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> > Internet connection stays when switching users!
> >>
> >> Wow.  Welcome to Slackware 1.0.
> >
> >And NT 3.51.
>
> Yea; *now* you know that.  <*Smirk*>
>
> >> > And get this - Applications even stay open and are there (still
> >> > open) when returning to that user.
> >>
> >> And to GNOME 1.0.
> >
> >Really? How do you exit GNOME as one use, log on as another,
> >then log back in as the first and have all apps still running?
>
> What do you mean "still"?  Why would you want to exit GNOME just to log
> on as another user?

I find myself going back and forth to root quite often. It's nice to know
there is a way to keep open programs up without having to re-open them.
Except with XP there isn't a need to save the session. It just does it.  BTW
the other users remain logged on until they officially log off, so switching
back to another user is almost instant once he is logged on.

> It is obvious from JS PL's brief description of XP's gentle benefits
> that it is going to be such a hugely pathetic joke, and will be so
> unable to work correctly and reliably, that nobody but sock puppets and
> naive victims are ever going to consider it any more of a worthwhile OS
> than DOS 2.0.

That's more of a Devlin pipe dream. WindowsXP even in beta form, is AS
stable as Linux, but the applications that run on it are about 100 times
more stable than the typical Linux offerings. Although, Knode is awesome and
incredibly fast, and is in and of itself worthy of dedicating a complete box
of hardware to Linux.
But you missed the part about me just conveying the "tip of the iceberg".



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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just when Linux starts getting good, Microsoft buries it in the 
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 00:57:22 -0400

Chad Myers wrote:
> 
> "Brian Langenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9eeah6$f9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy "JS \\ PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > <drivel snipped>
> >
> > What a headline:  "MS-Windows User Enjoys More MS-Windows"
> 
> "... because basic usability you expect in an OS is there,
> whereas it isn't in Linux".

Um, no...Mafia Soft puts lots of stuff in the kernal that does NOT belong there.

That's why a machine 3-days without hands-on attention is considered a major
achievement in Mafia-soft shops.


> 
> Another big shocker =)

you are an idiot with exceedingly low standards


> 
> > : and copy and paste is still much much better between apps, as opposed to the
> > : hit and miss copy/paste support in Linux.
> >
> > I'm still waiting for Windows to support the middle mouse button for
> > pasting like practically EVERY SINGLE X11 CLIENT EVER WRITTEN.
> 
> So just set it up to do that. More than likely you either have an
> MS Intellipoint or a Logitech mouse of some kind, both have the
> ability to configure this.
> 
> > Keystrokes for copying/pasting is truly a pain in the ass...
> 
> I though you guys hated the mousy-clicky stuff?
> 
> -c


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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